I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army

[@Nigelius]

I thought the most boring army would be genestealer cults, after all they do a lot of boring, mining and drilling.

[@swordsaintkirito]

No they are least favorite lol

[@dantom8919]

You must have like 100 kids because that was the most dad joke of all time

[@k4t669]

best dad joke I’ve heard in years

[@bluephoenix9960]

Booo … I come to the internet to escape dad jokes, not join them!

[@Sh1ft3r123]

How long did that take to come up with eh?

[@MrArmour]

In terms of telling squads that look identical apart, I read a great tip on a historical wargamer's blog some years ago. He suggested that one unit could have puddles, the second long grass and the third bits of undergrowth. I revised it for ease of visibility and tend to use those little clumps of flowers you can buy these days. Of course, given your awesome Ewoks, that'd be another way of marking off the squads.

[@lazyvipurr4698]

Can also rim the base of the models in different colors.

[@thatone846]

@@lazyvipurr4698 That's the obvious choice and it looks super amateurish.

[@icewindofchange]

If you are bad at strategy, dont get leia, get specialist kit. It has Officer unit who is a cheaper and not as a complicated version of Leia, so you keep extra points for medic or engineer droid. They will keep your guys/vehicles alive longer

[@nachoman145]

i like how the video is called "I Forced Myself to Collect the Most Boring Army" but then talks with so much enthusiasm and excitement about that army. always happy to see that.

[@euansmith3699]

Using Ewoks as basing garnish is a great idea. 😍

[@MorAodhan]

Saw this comment before really watching the video and instantly went to thinking _'oh that's very savage and 40k like, to have bases adorned with Ewok corpses in a Star Wars game.'_ Obviously thinking it was going to be an _imperial_ faction. I was further confused then when I saw that it was the rebels...then obviously I saw the Ewoks...alive and not dead. Then I paused for a moment and thought wow, 40k really does something to you lmao.

[@euansmith3699]

@@MorAodhan 😆😆😆😆 A long, long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, there is only *WAR!!!* 🐻💀

[@321Isotope]

I love the mechanics of Legion. I hope Warhammer eventually goes to a unit-based turn system (like the tokens in Legion). I hate the way 40k does it now, I hate seeing someone come in for their first game, lose 3/4 of their army first turn by the try-hard competitive player, and never come back. I know, that’s just how it works sometimes. But I think some tweaks to the system could balance a bit.

[@RileyGein]

That’s why I prefer Kill Team

[@Choppytehbear1337]

That happened to me 15 years ago and only now am I thinking of getting back into it.

[@Securityguardanywhere]

That’s just baby raging, if you lose so much don’t give up and don’t just Never come back. You people don’t understand this clearly, if warhammer was token based it would scrap the APOCALYPSE feel that most people enjoy

[@NothingIsKnown00]

Agree fully. Although, the biggest problem is with the first turn. One player activates his whole army, in the most target-rich environment possible. There could be easier fixes to the problem IMHO. E.g. before the 1st player starts turn 1, the other player can move once. Would give him a chance to get extra cover for key units.

[@vibes_3080]

I have ZERO clue about Warhammer (or tabletop games in general)... How can I imagine "losing" your army, like doesn't it get "reset" after every game, or do they physically destroyed?

[@Dragonspirit223]

The thing I love about Star Wars Legion is how many references they pull from. The different styles of guns all have references from different sources

[@404annonymouscontent3]

Star wars legions really needs more spot light. It is such a good game!

[@Bloodfencer1990]

Asmodee owns the Star Wars license but they gave it to Atomic Mass Games for some reason. I think Fantasy Flight did a better job handling the games but such is life. Also remember that your rebel units have abilities that give them a lot of dodge tokens. That's how you're supposed to bolster their survivability.

[@Nerdypugminatures]

Great video as always friend 🤗 will you be bringing any armies this year to ADEPTICON? I’m hoping to get a couple games in this year at the free tables . Keep up the great work 😁😁😁

[@adamkrajco1920]

Didn't Fantasy Flight transform into Atomic Mass Games? I thought it was basically just a name change

[@relink555]

@@adamkrajco1920 Nope, FFG is still around, they're the board and card games division now, all the wargames were sent over to AMG

[@countmalin70]

​@@adamkrajco1920 everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....

[@countmalin70]

everything is a sub division of Asmodee .....

[@Nuadaist]

Regarding command, try maybe Andor - he is pretty good. Also he works wonderfully with Luke's speeder, as he can shoot from there without moving. Also, a little point on the weapons: you can split the attacks in a unit by weapon types, meaning that a unit with 3 different attacks could split to shoot at 3 different units, and spread the suppression. If you don't need a particular keyword in your pool (like blast or pierce etc), it can be quite efficient to just shoot at another target. That could help you in the next game! Edit: forgot to say - very nice video!

[@theNOTprohomeowner]

Not going to lie, painting the rebels has actually been the most fun out of all of them. This is literally my first time painting minis, and the storm troopers just got repetitive. the Rebels I could change stuff up, new colors, and make each one unique.

[@sies3334]

100% agree I got all 4 army’s wasn’t excited for rebels and turns out Sabine is my favorite unit to play she can clutch up so well “EXPLOSIONS!”

[@insomniacg]

Ah yes, the truly devious villain at the heart of the Star Wars universe: Shaun

[@HunterShadowCloud]

Me and 4 friends play legion once a week. Love the painting schemes. If you want some really heavy hitting heroes get Chewbacca, Han and Leia those 3 synergize amazingly

[@mikep3494]

Echo Base Defenders is absolutely a great next purchase for you: Leia, Chewbacca, R2D2, C3PO, 4x Rebel Veterans, 4x Mark2 Emplacement Trooper, 2x Tauntauns and a Laser Cannon pizza dish. From there I’d also get the AA5 Speeder Bus (or two) and some Wookies. 😂

[@xTheSupremoBurritox]

Legion Rebel main here, I play Leia all the time she is my favorite HQ but she is definitely a support character. But she combos well with Chewie who is definitely the throw at the bad guys solution you want!

[@joahnaut]

Don't discount the humble speeder when the Toyota Hilux is the workhorse of modern day combat.

[@Tom-vy4uw]

Just stumbled upon this video. You're so enthusiastic about these games, it's a lot of fun watching you talk about it 👍

[@40kpunk45]

Love my legion rebels! Get yourself some more mandalorians to go with Sabine… one box builds both Clan Wren and the generic mandalorians units!

[@mannypinerio9415]

Man... almost nothing he said about the rules is correct.

[@Northernmight]

Holy shit, it's the one guy who likes new Star Wars. Huh. It's like finding a unicorn!

[@HispAnakin42]

Oh boy, am I glad to see that legion is still alive! I’ve learned that the bog standard rebel are actually very useful if you use them right. I use them for holding objectives. You put them in heavy cover and give a dodge. This negates 3 hits which is huge! And they can spend a dodge and regain it meaning they always have a dodge when your opponent is trying to remove them off the objective.

[@Therealflash69]

1:46 Ahhh yes my favorite jedi Luke Skypotter

[@odharrison23]

I like the fleet trooper with the Ewok shield! I love legion! Great game fun to play!! I paint the base rims different colors so all of this squad had a blue base rim. All of that squad has a purple base rim. Thanks gents! Fantastic as always!!

[@lolaldanee2743]

those are excelently painted they just suffer from one massive problem: they are no gungans

[@Durnathi]

Rebel Troopers are amazing with Captain, Situational Awareness, and DLT upgrades. The AT-RTs are an amazing unit for their price though.

[@leeperry7068]

I dove into Legions last week and bought a boatload of rebel stuff, was nice seeing your advice of "just speedpaint" :) I really wanna try and solve the "rebel corps all look alike" thing, and since I don't care about looking like the real movie colors, I'm hoping that is easier.

[@SPBurt1]

Love your rebel army, your enthusiasm. Thanks for the video.

[@mmorehead74]

Glad you saw they points changes, but just a heads up in case u didnt see, there are new points again starting jan 1!

[@HelixWek]

These paintjobs are crazy! Bravo. I'm trying to work my way to this level but I've got a ways to go.

[@zano_korellio]

Bring the satellite dish cannon (FD Cannon I think) and some T-47. Tell Sean to have fun with the monster T-47s are and good luck getting sniped by the 1000-channel intergalactic TV station satellite dish lol

[@Peng-444]

Beautiful army. Legion is such a great game, and the models are really fun to paint.

[@Grimmiger1]

Yaaaaas! The video I have been looking forward to! I also have a paint day today and this is great inspiration for my rebels. Also if you are looking for a cheap commander you can get a generic one with the upgrade pack and it let's you spend more points in the things you want to beat stick with. Also. Wookies.

[@joshpoulter2726]

Anyone else hear him call Luke Skywalker , Luke skypotter?😂

[@exittheparade]

Hey Jay, love the video! I would encourage you to read the newest set of rules because a lot of things have changed through the years. Also, AMG will be releasing an updated point balance this month, so look out for that too!

[@voctur]

I am not a tabletop player, but more of a LEGO collector, but I feel you there. I mostly collect imperial stuff because they are the ones who have the cool vehicles, but when it comes to minifigs I love collecting rebels, I LOVE how customizable they are. You can just switch parts around, give them different heads, weapons and gear to make all of them lool different.

[@chaoskarlos987]

Sounds like you should run wookies, chewie and ion weapons against shawn. Also you can take Mando as an op for the rebels and he is really good

[@lordbravura]

I think rebels and look way too cool if you add the different stuff such as Wookies and Mandalore. I really loved painting my Speeder. You can try operative Luke, is a cool model with diferent rules.

[@Kubrzesz]

I’m sorry, did Jay said Luke SKYPOTTER at 1:45 and 5:30?

[@vera3311]

Was looking at the comments to see if anyone had noticed and I was like "Is no one gonna mention this???" Lol

[@Kubrzesz]

@@vera3311 Exactly. Was like, am I losing my mind?

[@the-white-eye]

i dont care much for the actual wargaming part but i just love painting clone troopers. every one you can put hours into with just doing tiny patten details. both remaking my faves from the show and making up random new ones is so fucking fun

[@kingbonezai4925]

Most of the rebels do surge to defense, so they get a 5+ save!

[@NormalPersonI]

Still love this awesome channel keep up the great work. Also just wondering what the best paints for rust are. I'm painting an ork combat patrol and I'm not too sure what to buy.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Vallejo has a couple of rust colors I really like for drybrushing.

[@no.6minis]

I’ve drybrushed army painter Dry Rust on my Orks and it honestly works really well.

[@nicholashancock8729]

Just started a Rebel army and am excited to throw some paint on them. If you still play Legion with the updated rules Tabletop Admiral is a great list building site that keeps all unit values up to date and with keyword references.

[@jack-a-lopium]

Are there rules for a horse race on the outside of a star destroyer?

[@direden]

This was hilarious. You're excitement is contagious. And many of the details about the game are inaccurate... but it didn't matter... because you were having so much fun 😂

[@UnkleSanik]

Honestly I wish the Rebels had more vehicle variation, maybe some upgrade kits for Infantry considering how many non-humans the Rebels had. Like, the Rebels used a lot of repurposed Civilian and Republic technology, but so far we've only got 2 examples in Legion

[@the98themperoroftheholybri33]

I'd love if Starwars legion came out with a Hutt/Pirate faction

[@reptyler123]

You guys should do a models and memories about X-Wing. I played a ton of that game up until they changed the rules in 2.0. Lot of great memories would be cool to hear your take on it.

[@coopers1716]

Jay idk if you'll ever read this but you'll think this is cool, my dad won IPMS (international plastic modelers society) internationals in around 2003 with a half-scratch built AT-AT walker. One of the reasons it went so far was because it was *so* detailed as evidenced by the reference photos he'd printed of the original AT-AT models. People didn't understand how he had such great reference pictures, the best the internet could do at the time was screen-captures of the movies and behind the scenes stuff. He had those photos because he was working for ILM in the model making department and they just happened to still have their best conditioned, screen-used AT-AT model on display in the studio. On top of that, he was in part a WWII airplane historian so he already had a nice digital camera. There aren't many pictures of it up but if you look up Sutherland AT-AT there's a few overexposed photos on google.

[@joshmalone7494]

Those look great! I've been painting up my stormtroopers from the starter box because I'm terrified to paint the rebels!

[@Monstein]

When you where talking about a deck...did they change that? I thought it was tokens you randomly pull from that tells you what type of unit can go. I remember getting coin protectors for mine when the game first came out.

[@mikep3494]

He might be talking about Command Cards. The game still uses Order Tokens for activations.

[@bwild7859]

I’ve seen people use the landspeeder to carry saben up close to throw out her bombs! Could try that some time! I like watching team relentless playbook, they have some fun strategies!

[@lordbiscuitthetossable5352]

The thing that makes them “boring” kinda what makes them stick on my mind in the sliver screen. They served as the futuristic but also dated vibe of the setting while being realistic enough to get. Lucas clearly wanted his rebels to be shown as WW1/2 styled fighters given a modern splash fighting an ultra advanced and sleek regime of white coats and their impressive mecha. On a table top level it’s a little less iconic, particularly compared to the super overdressed imperium. But as much as I hate to use a line from the ROSW, they are “just people” from all across the galaxy. Thus with 3D printing and/or creative use of model lines, it’s possible to really create a super interesting yet coherent alliance to accompany the equally diverse heroes. To me, the Republic is one of the most visually boring factions because they are inherently sterile people that don’t exist beyond the war. You got clone troops, better clone troopers super clone troops then their mounted counterparts. To me their lack of inherit humanity is both their selling point and a detriment to ever want to paint them. Likewise the Empire is largely chromatic schemes that are a little hard to embellish.

[@bleachorange]

If you paint the squad bases in different colors for each squad it can really help you tell them apart on the battlefield. edit: lol, paused right before you mentioned this lol

[@Lies-are-Life]

The only people in rebels i like are the clones and mandolorians. Plus for sabine, you could always just paint the shoulder and knee pads differently. Its easier

[@mikep3494]

Jyn is my favourite Commander, paired with Sabine they’re amazing. Use Jyn’s 2-pip on Sabine, gain Teamwork keyword. Have Jyn go and use Quick Thinking. Both gain an aim and a dodge. Situational Awareness on them both to make them tankier. Sabine with Nimble and Gunslinger. Her ability to immobilize enemies. They’re so good. You just need more games with them. 😁

[@AzraelThanatos]

I ought to get back into Legion, I kind of burnt out on it a long while back, before they expanded into the Prequel stuff...going through a second starter set along with more boxes over a very short time left me unwilling to really do more with it...which was compounded by a new dog who tore apart a good chunk of my rebels. Kept wanting the Republic stuff to come out, back with the WotC minis, I always went for either Republic or, rarely, Mandos As for the tauntauns, if you look at some of the pre-Disney stuff, there were tauntaun species on other planets including jungle and deserts

[@EfaunAipiera]

"I forced myself to collect the most boring army!" "I thought you already got space marines."

[@Capin91]

I think you meant to say, ‘.. their _amazing, iconic_ racing bike helmets’ 🤣

[@oreettroll]

Han Solo is a pretty solid commander choice for Rebels too if you're looking for a commander that can output a lot of damage.

[@rjlarose5271]

Right now I'm planning 2 rebel builds. A Hoth themed one, using the new battleforce as a base. And a rouge 1 themed build. So im very exited. Also would love to see your other legion forces.

[@zemrpereira]

these look so perfect, man. Love them love them love them!

[@lucifa_erus]

Me (a hardcore Star Wars fan) just getting a headache when you think about the time differences and the changes of the vehicles and armors. Besides the headache a very good video ones again 👍

[@JohnnySeptum]

what of the time difference?

[@PikaChu-vv9hj]

@@JohnnySeptum like if you make a republic vs empire game

[@JohnnySeptum]

@@PikaChu-vv9hj uh huh...and?

[@akumaking1]

So how can you spice up the army?

[@serfaI]

hot day + magnifying glass

[@chaoskarlos987]

Chili powder instead of pigments

[@jamesfisher5930]

Cassian and K2-SO, in general IG-11 in that speeder, Mando, Wookies! There is a lot that could be done to spice it up. Also another points update is due this month, hopefully improving the AT-RT. In 2023 AMG is releasing an Ewok battle force and supposedly it will have a rebel version of the AT-ST

[@flickcastJC]

Actual spice.

[@timunderbakke8756]

Rebels have 5+ save. Battle droids have a 6+ save. Most rebel units get that “surge to defense”. By contrast, stormtroopers have a 4+ save, and the most durable units have a 3+ save.

[@LG-vu8eb]

Ya, feels like it though lol, and to be fair, that's quite a big difference in this game, since most heros only have 6 wounds, it's not like 40k where a squad of space Marines have 10 wounds.

[@Guru_Swami]

Your Rebels look phenomenal! Any how to paint videos coming in the future? Edit: Speedpaints and Sorastro!

[@coach3467]

Amazing paint job. Well done.

[@hampsterdam5852]

Those bases are amazing! Is there a tutorial somewhere?

[@thejake1453]

Damn, have you ever done a video on the speedpaint, or can you do a video? I'd really like to see how it helped you and what you did.

[@drguineapig8755]

Technically, according to some of the comics, the Empire didn’t even invent the AT-AT’s. The Republic actually had them first, they just barely used them.

[@jameslewis2635]

You should check out an old PC game called 'Empire At War' which is an old Star Wars title and specifically a mod called 'Awakening of the Rebellion'. This would give you quite a few more unit types to add to this army and make it a lot more interesting.

[@Eman1182]

Have you ever heard of Archive-X paints? They're apparently formulated to replicate the colors used on star wars models in the movies. Newtype sells them (along with a host of Star Wars Legion models to test your new paints on)

[@dorgrim]

The least boring army are the Rebs. So much flavor and life in the alien species, rag tag warriors and who can be upset playing with Han and Chewie.

[@zarnistastudios]

I TOTALLY get that. It’s a wonderful angle to take collecting. Well done

[@hephaestion12]

Cant wait for you to show off your star wars legion imperials! My fave evil british space facists! ❤

[@williambond2267]

I want to play Republic but I want them to release the iconic LAAT Gunship. Just the image of it swooping down to pick up and drop off clones just does it for me. ATTE would be great as well.

[@derrekingledue3138]

You FORCEd yourself? Your pun is impressive. Most impressive

[@grahamcrackergaming630]

Luke is probably the best all around "beat stick" commander for Rebels. Cassian is super effective as a sniper, AND you get K2 in the box, but some of his mechanics are a little complicated. Han is also very consistent at damaging things. For you, I'd still say Cassian so you can do Rogue One themed stuff and get two fun models in the same box.

[@utapaufroggo7454]

How did you do the bases they are very cool

[@ExtradaemonYT]

Legion models are the same size as 40k models. A common rebel trooper is the same size as a Space Marine.

[@PikaChu-vv9hj]

Cool to see some Legion, big sw fan but still thinking about getting in, just not having any friends to play any wargames lol. Really nice touch with the ewoks.

[@Slurgical_3D_Terrain_Channel]

I play Jyn, I always have her running around the map shooting at things, I played 5 games, she survived all of them. I keep on hearing if you run her with the pathfinder, its a power house.

[@PossumMedic]

14:50 - It's confirmed! E.T.'s call sign is "Prune Face" 🤣

[@relink555]

Check out the Tabletop Admiral listbuilder for Star Wars Legion, it's always up to date for points

[@johnwigent3050]

The transport rules have been updated a long time ago. Units dont take hits when their transports are hit anymore. Also units can shoot out of open transports.

[@ongakuchan587]

I love the fact that you have a different gel scheme compared to the cyan/blue & red light scheme that's overused by yt creators.

[@anthonycernik6548]

I think they should add some of the rebel hover tanks form empire at war

[@TheAltesLama59]

I love star wars and star wars legion is such a nice game. I just hope it gets expanded continuously, I think there is still a lot to be created in terms of units.

[@hermanpesina6328]

if you can force push an enemy into range of some fleets with standby its hilariously satisfying rolling that bucket of dice on them.

[@complex9k]

As a fan of legion, what are your thoughts on shatter point?

[@colbybastian17]

For Legion, they have layouts that map the dice to normal d6s and d8s.

[@fireking0440]

jay if we were to ever battle in legion you had best hope for a miracle cause i run clones a lot and i role dice of fire that will burn through almost any army with ease.

[@Camikaze7]

Great video Jay, would love similar ones for the other factions!

[@marvelousmaker]

I thought you were going to show off that pack of 100 army men that always got destroyed by misc. methods (K9 fodder, malicious older sibling, Solar powered beam of destruction, etc...)

[@starlord157]

This army is beautifully painted, you don’t have a video on painting them do you?

[@asenaruu8361]

what do you call that rotating small table?

[@SueBoi3909]

Like skypoder 😆 I know people get it wrong sometimes but I’ve never heard that one 😂

[@Morrowman17]

Jay! I’m not sure where you’re located but if you’re ever in the Chicago area or north Chicago by the Wisconsin border I’d love to get some legion/ xwing/ kill team/ space hulk games in with you :)

[@montgomeryharr30]

X-wing was my favourite time ever in "wargaming". I loved the game so much

[@Paulovitx]

bit late to the game but any chances you would do a how to paint of these minis?