I Found Out My Mom Had A SECRET BABY 2 YEARS AGO, She Wants Me To Keep It Secret r/Relationships

[@MarkNarrations]

Heeeeelllloooo, apologies for another early one. I'm off to London for a couple of cheeky days, got given a Jack The Ripper tour for my birthday but wanted to pop in and say hello before I head off 😀👍 *EDIT* It's not my birthday today, it's been and gone haha

[@broken_queer_but_fighting8589]

Ooooo fun thats so cool have fun and stay safe, I think you'll like the book series based on it m8

[@klh4194]

Oh sounds like lots of fun! Happy belated birthday 🥳 🎂

[@elsemiekeanna]

Awesome, have fun and a late happy birthday.

[@tatiannagraywing]

Have a grand time! Happy late Birthday!!! 🎊🎁🎉🎂🎉🎁🎊

[@Droptheworldghost]

Happy birthday Mark best wishes enjoy the trip

[@bigmilkman]

Hearing how the AP was the kid of one of the mom's friends, feels a bit predatory to me. That mom is a horrible person, OP did the right thing.

[@ukchanak]

AP was 26, OP is 20 and has an older brother. That means the AP is probably around the oldest child's age. It definitely sounds like grooming.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

I didn't even think about that. That's creepy. 😨🤢

[@bannerturtoise1219]

I bet AP was thinking "One day, he's coming here, and I'm losing my teeth." Then during the visit, he ends up consoling the dad. Says something when the ap has more humanity than the person cheating.

[@diarradunlap9337]

AP was also told that the cheater was in an "OPEN" marriage (which is, in and of itself, an oxymoron); doesn't excuse him for his part in the affair, but he WAS lied to.

[@ladyv5655]

AP was lied to. He still did the wrong thing, but he has demonstrated that he is redeemable as a human being. The mother and grandmother, not so much.

[@mflax4331]

@@diarradunlap9337 Your description of an "open marriage" fits (just check on the train wreck of Will in HIS open marriage with Jada). An open marriage is no marriage at all. End it legally because morally it is already ended. As in this case the unsuspecting or not playing outside partner is the one to get hurt. Run, boy, run! There is nothing else that can be done. (And her plans to make her baby her husband's baby is the plan of a devil. That marriage is done for!)

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Indeed. AP is a victim of narc mom too, because he was lied to. And he didn't find out until AFTER she got pregnant. So yeah. Narc mom was awful to everyone. Now, I'm not an expert when it comes to open relationships/open marriages but I'm pretty sure that they should be mutually agreed upon. And it probably will never be what I want, but if others can make it work, I say, all the power to them. Just because an open marriage isn't a traditional marriage doesn't mean it can't work. But this was NO open marriage and narc mom is just an awful person (not just for cheating, but also blaming one daughter and getting into a physical altercation with another) and she absolutely deserves to lose her perfect life and family. As my father would say, you reap what you sow.

[@HobieInTheBox]

@@diarradunlap9337 open marriages are a legit thung, but require lots of conversation and honesty

[@devchekhov7512]

Last one: Amanda's an absolute trash fire, and so is Steve. Here's the thing--if he cheats WITH you, he'll cheat ON you.

[@pippo17173]

A phrase no cheater will ever listen because they think they got above that. Still remember that one story about a cheater life destroyed because he cheated on his mistress with another and lost all her money and housing.

[@judithhansford4629]

Wow. What a repulsive mother and grandmother. So glad op was able to make the painful decision for the truth. In the end it saved them more pain.

[@kimberlyterasaki4843]

I don’t understand how some people have the time for a relationship and multiple affair partners; like, who has time to juggle all that

[@MarkNarrations]

That's often my thoughts, it would hurt my head!

[@carolroberts4614]

I'd be in the wrong place at the wrong time, and using the wrong name!

[@videofan1010]

Thank you. One person is already too much, lol.

[@Val_Benko]

@@carolroberts4614 Same - I often refer to my friends by the wrong name, I'd 100% end up calling an AP by the wrong and just blowing the whole affair lmao

[@MsUnamusedNerd]

STORY 1: mom absolutely has no right to blame op. She made the adult decision to cheat on her husband, live with her affair partner by lying about an open marriage, and got knocked up by him. She can’t have her affair and her married life too. If it wasn’t for OP, this was going to come out of the shadows one way or another. It was best that Opie told her dad because if he found out any other way, found out that OP knew as well, OP would have been part of the betrayal. Even the partner threatened to expose her if he was a part of his child’s life if Mom went through with pretending the affair child was her husband’s so she just abandoned the baby. The fact that Grandma was in on it and they made of a dying of cancer ruse to cover up the affair is absolutely disgusting. STORY 2: Gaslighting and manipulation from the friend. Glad she’s not coming. She’s a messy person.

[@mflax4331]

Story 2: That was never a freind.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

Final story: It was obvious that she was also a misstress, is hilarious that she thinks she is the only woman he is with now, if she wasn't the only one while Steve was with Lily what makes her think that she is the only one now that she is his girlfriend? Pathetic. She sounds like she will forgive Steve if he cheats on her because "love".

[@Tullaryx]

Karma is going to hit her like a ton of bricks when that time comes.

[@Davtwan]

How to know it’s not true love: when it’s only feelings and nothing else. (I.E. no compatibility.)

[@robertx8020]

If steve had only be cheating on OP's sister with ONE girl then MAYBE he would be faithful But cheated with multipke ppl Ppl like that that will keep cheating But at least I don't feel sorry for Amanda at all I hope she walks in on her 'BF' one day only to see him f*** some other girl and being told ..."yeah I cheated on you from the beginning ,.,what did you expect? you think you're special?> "

[@thedestroyasystem]

Love is far from the only thing that’s needed to make a relationship work. Trust, compatible needs/wants, willingness to compromise, etc… not just a feeling.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

@@thedestroyasystem agree, this man clearly lacks one of the most important things for a relationship, loyalty and compromise.

[@nikkiwhray1598]

I think Amanda, in the 2nd story, was really jealous of Lily, who was clearly Steve's first choice. It seems pretty clear that she would still be a "mistress" if Lily hadn't dumped him. She wanted to show him off at the OP's wedding, like she won some sort of prize. Pathetic.

[@SidereusOfTheFallen]

Pathetic and incredibly rude and insensitive.

[@pippo17173]

Before the obvious revaluation, we all kinda knew she was the year long affair partner. 🙄

[@nikkiwhray1598]

@@pippo17173 Definitely! And I bet she's going to act all surprised and betrayed when she finds out he's cheating on her. Because there is a 0% chance of that dude being faithful to her.

[@NCAnon]

S1: let me get this straight; the mother is blaming OP and begging that they speak to her at the same time? Why would OP want to speak to someone that's blaming them for their affair coming to light? S2: Wow, what a [redacted]. How horrible of a person to actively be the affair partner and comfort the SO of the cheater. Karma will come when he starts cheating on her and she realizes the pain OP's sister experienced

[@HelenWA]

Story 1 - narcissistic sociopaths never cease to contradict themselves

[@pambarab5506]

Story 1. Mom... omg. Mom has no moral compass. She does all these things, gets grandmother involved in all the lying/cover-ups, then tries to bribe, and later blame OP for breaking up the family. Just wow. The AP seems like an ok guy, probably easily led by a master manipulator like OP's mom. At least he wanted to be involved and ended up keeping the baby. I wonder if Op's mom was paying an informal child support? I wonder who was paying the hospital bills? I still have questions!

[@ECjj33]

And she had the gall to blame op, but then be all ‘shocked pikachu face’ when op wants space. She’s a straight up psycho path.

[@HelenWA]

@@ECjj33 she's a sociopath. She literally admitted, probably bragged that she was planning on being part of the third of mothers willfully committing paternity fraud in the west. PURE EVIL

[@MsAnimefan95]

@@ECjj33 And she was apparently still trying to get stuff out of OP's dad in the divorce!

[@AndyyWithAY]

The friend is a major AH. Less than a year ago Steve cheated on OP's bf. If she's dumb enough to date a known cheater, fine. But, to bring him round the family he hurt? Absolutely not

[@Totaltwist]

She's s mistress. She has no morals

[@ladyv5655]

Dude is probably already cheating on her. The wedding is 6 months away. I would be surprised if they don't break up this summer. Then Amanda will call OP, moan about how he did her wrong and beg to be invited. But don't do it. Because then they will reconcile the day before the wedding and she will bring him as her plus one unannounced. Amanda sure seems hellbent on rubbing her relationship in everybody's face. She and ex bf do seem to deserve each other though.

[@itsjustme7487]

I agree. Amanda seems bit dense IMHO.

[@kittytudor9770]

one thing that’s really stood out to me in story 1 that i havent really seen anyone bring up yet - the affair partner was a son of a family friend (op even goes to clarify it was one of her mother’s friends). so this woman had an affair with a man she probably knew since he was a child - i don’t think it’s that far fetched to say that this man was likely groomed by her for a while, especially combined with the fact that she had to lie to him about being in an open marriage in order to get him to sleep with her, idk it’s giving me all kinds of disgusting. and then she attempted to manipulate him into giving up the child and probably had something to do with his decision not to tell her husband as soon as he realized he didnt know. of course he was still an adult when the affair happened and made his own choice not to tell the husband, and that was very shitty, but idk the whole situation just reeks of something very, very bad. reverse the genders of the mom and the affair partner and i feel like more people would notice how fucked up it is

[@annceres1204]

So true. For either gender, having an affair with somebody half your age when they don’t know it’s an affair is gross. Then adding that they’re the child of your friend and that makes it extra gross.

[@SakuraMoonflower]

Yeah, that's so manipulative and gross! You're completely correct!!!

[@gabriellemeche992]

The fact he's literally the same age as her son and not even half a decade older than the rest is so disgusting

[@virtualgamer789]

The fact that op's mom might know the AP since he was a kid makes things so much worse

[@ComaLies225]

I love that Op turned it back around on mom when mom tried to blame her for the situation. Good on app for not letting mom guilt trip her

[@Russman67]

Story 1: It's sad that OP has to Bear any of the guilt for what her mom and grandmother tried to pull off. That is straight nightmare fuel. I can just imagine how hard her dad's heart ripped in half when he heard that. Mom is a pariah and she's earned it.

[@pippo17173]

At least at the end, op came out as the winner.

[@HelenWA]

the mother is a socipath who was probably mocking the husband behind his back. both the mom and the grandmother are evil. I hope none of these kids ever forgive either and make sure they never invite them over for any events again!

[@Russman67]

Story 2: The ex friend Amanda is a snake. Don't pick up the phone when she calls saying Steve is out with another set of women.

[@P1ranha__]

Story 2: I immediately got the feeling that steve got with amanda to try and get her to let him be at the wedding, so that he can talk to OP’s sister again.

[@ladyv5655]

Yeah. Amanda sounds very naive and her ego makes her believe she is the one and only woman Steve can be true to. Steve is playing her and I would be surprised if that relationship lasts much longer. Steve sounds like an ex of mine who still believes years after I broke up with him, that I am still dying to get back with him in spite of being married to my great husband and moving out of the area.

[@Streetwisefirst]

Story 2: that was crazy. I kind thought her friend was one of the mistresses from the get go. But her to be to pushing him to come to the wedding and to be a support for OP’s sister is disgusting. She truly doesn’t see she did anything wrong. Just a matter of time before he cheats on her as well

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yup. And she's going to deserve it too. If he can cheat with you, he can cheat on you too.

[@ShatoraDragondore]

Story 2: The closer that date gets the worse Amanda and Steve are going to try and get back in. I hope OP gets some nice security for the day.

[@ladyv5655]

My guess is that they will pretend to break up. Amanda will call and ask to be re invited now that Steve is gone, then, if successful, will show up at the wedding with Steve who she decided to "forgive" just the day before. Yeah. OP just needs to block Amanda and Steve everywhere she can and then hire security for the wedding, and show them pictures of Amanda and Steve, giving instructions to keep these people out.

[@Voodoomaria]

Story #1: Second update 10:45 "I'm still feeling guilty for starting all this" Okay OP, ENOUGH! Get this through your head... YOU!! DID!! NOT!! START!! THIS!! Your mother started, it and continued it until it's inevitable conclusion. THIS IS ENTIRELY HER FAULT!!! By NOT taking part in her little conspiracy, you've saved YOUR place in your family, you did not betray either your siblings or your father by becoming part of your mother's cover-up. Look where she is? Children won't talk to her, Husband is divorcing her, friends are shunning her. That's HER DOING!! Look where your grandmother is? Hated and shunned by her own grandchildren, locked out of their lives, Probably for good and all. THIS WAS ALL YOUR MOTHER'S FAULT. You are NOT responsible for her P*ss-poor choices, and you certainly are NOT responsible for the fall-out from it. SHE IS, and Nobody else.

[@Tammohawk1]

How that woman thought she could even assume to pass that baby off as her husbands w/the affair partner being so dark is beyond comprehension. What a piece of work. 2. I wonder if the friend was cheating w/Steve when he was w/OP's sister. I wouldn't want the jerk there either. Wonder no more, she was cheating with Steve. And she has deluded herself into thinking how special she is and that he is going to be faithful to her. OK.

[@bluelan9393]

@@KADDIE101 Not even the third one, she was the one he called when the other ones where busy.

[@Midorikonokami]

Last story: op handled that like a pro. Mature, straight to the point, no waffling. Protection for her family and sibling until she had a handle on everything. Heaven, I'd want op in my corner in a crises. Also, the poor woman is delusional. He has side chicks on side chicks and she thinks she's the only one? Poor thing, she's thrown her lot in with the village stallion.

[@dagnytheartist]

In the beginning of Story 1, I actually thought that OP's mom was acting clingy and sad to her kids because she felt guilty over the affair/baby coverup, and guilty because she knew her actions were a betrayal to their whole family. But no, apparently I was giving her too much credit. It's not guilt; she just feels bad that she doesn't get to bring home her new little baby and pass it off as her husband's baby and play happy family without suffering major consequences. She really wanted to have her cake and eat it too, in like three different ways. She wanted her husband and affair partner, stringing both of them along. She wanted to have her baby without losing her marriage or kids' respect. She wanted to do all of this and keep it all under wraps so she wouldn't tarnish her reputation. What a scumbag. I feel sorry for the affair partner. He was being lied to like everyone else was, and she was really trying to take his baby away from him to pass off as her husband's (she must think her husband is a moron.) I actually wondered before if the affair partner was lied to, because if the mom was willing to lie about the grandmother having cancer, then she could tell pretty much any lie. The happy ending in my head is that the mom gets no custody and the family is still on good terms with affair partner and child, and the child is going to grow up surrounded by good people.

[@HelenWA]

that sociopath really was going to tell her husband that it was his kid with no remorse. It was only when the AP was adamant that he refused to give up his child when she tossed the kid away like it was trash. She never loved any of those kids and her mother is just as big of a monster.

[@brandi5126]

S1: I would probably tell my dad because I wouldn't want him to feel betrayed and alone if he found out I knew and didn't tell him.

[@drippystaff5657]

Honestly story 1 is one of the most disturbing stories I think I've read. The mom and gran are evil.

[@user-wr3vt8uq4s]

Oh, you *know* Gran pulled something similar in her younger days. What a dumpster fire.

[@frith.calluna]

During story 2 I ALMOST felt bad for Amanda for thinking she was somehow different and wouldn't get cheated on. Then I remembered she willingly got with a guy who was already in a relationship with someone she knew no less! Yeah all my sympathy went flying out the window...

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

That was my mindset too. Almost feeling sorry for Amanda, only to remember how much of a venomous snake she was and then any sympathy I had for her was gone. And she's going to deserve any karma that comes her way.

[@Gloria-ro4vn]

Amanda is going to learn the hard way what it feels like being cheated on when he cheats on her; and you know he will cheat, repeatedly. Only he want have any friends to lean on like your Sis did.

[@RokoFireFox]

Pft Amanda really thinking she's the only girl. If they cheat with you. They will cheat on you.

[@mbyerly9680]

The mom with the secret baby is like one of those late night ads. "She cheats on her husband and gets pregnant. She lived with the kid she fooled. But wait there's more. Etc., etc. Then it ends with the mom blaming OP for all that has happened." She is a monster. She deserves no happiness or family, ever. Oh, and Amanda was Steve's side piece before Lily realized what a snake he was. They deserve each other.

[@ian7064]

Story 1: My guess is that if there's another update, it'll be to tell us that the mom tried to self delete. That's often the trump card for cheating stbx wives in situations like these when they're backed into a corner and can't manipulate their way out of it

[@HelenWA]

the trash taking itself out. who cares, i don't

[@videofan1010]

OP#2 your instinct was right to keep that girl from your house. She's extremely untrustworthy.

[@SwapnilBBagul]

"I don't think my family will ever recover." Who is the reason for that, I think? Dad/siblings would lose trust in OP if they'd find out from outside. OP did the right thing.

[@deijix]

OPs mom in first story: “THIS IS YOUR FAULT, OP!!! EVEN THOUGH I CHEATED AND BETRAYED MY FAMILY, IF YOU WOULDNT HAVE OPENED YOUR MOUTH I WOULDNT HAVE TO FACE THE CONSEQUENCES OF MY ACTIONS!!” OP: blocks mom OPs mom: NO PLEASE WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT YOURE THE ONLY CHILD WHO HASNT BLOCKED ME YET AND I NEED CONTROL OVER SOMEONE, ANYONE PLEASE

[@HelenWA]

i know right!

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yup. That about sums up OP's update.

[@selbarton]

1. Mommy wanted a free test drive of the new relationship before she risked ending up with neither relationship. She needs to understand that her family will never be the same, but it wasn't what she thought it was to begin with. The worst part is OP keeps blaming herself despite it being the mother's fault. 2. "Hope you can understand I'm an idiot that thinks I can fix the cheater and that you'll welcome him with open arms. You have to be mean to not feed these dillusional views." Her fake support was to bet rid of one of her competitors. And don't feel bad for her because she is 100% okay with cheating because that's the entire first year of their relationship where she was fully aware of it. They will be cheating on each other.

[@zachf748]

Yea, keeping the affair and baby a secret is *_not_* an option. When he finds out later and realizes you knew and didn’t tell him… that’ll hurt worse than the affair. You _absolutely have to_ tell your father.

[@JayeEllis]

Story 2: NTA - Your wedding, your guest list. Period. She can come alone or not come. Personally, for all this drama, I'd have revoked her invitation by now, not only to my wedding, but to any more of my time, ever.

[@Harleyxjokerforever]

I'll never get how people are trick into a affair never confirm the whole "open relationships" crap. At this point it a known line for cheaters. For me IF (emphasis on IF) I get involved with someone in a open relationship I'll need the ok from both partners especially if I know the couple.

[@Callimo]

Right? And if they get offended that i want confirmation, then that's a red flag.

[@carolroberts4614]

Back in my day, when my ex was cheating it seemed that the line" my wife doesn't understand me" was good enough!! If only he'd used his organisational skills in the workplace, he'd have been a rich man!

[@rylashadow18]

S1) I want you to realize something. You're mom's poor choices aren't your responsibility. Period. She chose to cheat, possibly more than once and tried to hide the child she had in this affair. When a parent makes a poor choice it's their responsibility to own up to it. Just in case they need to hear it any louder : *When a parent makes a poor choice it's their responsibility to own up to it.* She wanted you to lie for her, cover for her and enable these poor choices. In the end you did the right thing by telling your dad the truth. So she played at a game of stupid and won her stupid prize. Dear lord I hope everyone distance themselves from her and her enabling mother. S2) You get to decide who gets to be at your wedding. You want your sister to feel welcomed as much as anyone else and her cheating ex being allowed to use your day as his "we're together now" party is trashy at best. So she chose to be with someone she knew to be a cheater? Hope she's blocked when she needs to have someone to cry about once he does it to her.

[@neil999ish]

Story one, so the mother had a plan to try pass the affair child's as op's father. That in itself is an indictment on her character, that she could even consider that! OP DO NOT FEEL GUILTY about exposing her infidelity and lies. Your mother destroyed the family by her actions!

[@juanhaines7295]

Story 1 I've heard this one. Op did the right thing. If op kept quiet and everyone found out she'd get it to.

[@kellypatterson8506]

Story number 2 yeah you can definitely cheating on Amanda as well

[@MarkNarrations]

Yeah she's already in denial. :/

[@ukchanak]

Holy shit, the AP was the son of a friend!!! and only 6 years older than OP, this sounds like grooming to me. And there's an OLDER BROTHER??!! That means the AP is probably exactly the same age as her son! AP clearly grew up knowing the father/husband and felt terrible. He was lied to as well, and I am certain was groomed when he was younger. How horrible 😞

[@user-blob]

First story is totally gross. That woman is a pervert. 🤢🤮

[@ineedhoez]

Outside of military deployment or something similar, if you can hide a baby, you can't have a good marriage. Gone for 9 months and no physical contact? That marriage has been dead for years

[@amandacancio1693]

Listen to your videos is the reward I use to convince myself to do the chores I hate! Keep ‘em coming please!!

[@saraha9937]

Story 1: leaving aside the completely disgusting behavior, what always astonishes me in these stories with people having affairs at this age (40+, already kids in their mariage so likely not planning more) is they don't use PROTECTION ! On top of everything else, the stupidity...

[@HelenWA]

most cheaters don't use protection. They are that reckless and demonic

[@Negasilver]

"That which can be destroyed by the truth, should be."

[@caiargagnon]

Story 2: they sound perfect together ❤️. She is a manipulative queen and he is an affair AH

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yeah. They sound perfect together. Perfectly toxic that is. But in all seriousness, Steve and Amanda deserve each other.

[@cowboys19js]

Im so proud of the OP in the first story. I can’t imagine the agony of that decision but she DID THE RIGHT thing. Do not feel guilty, you saved your father and family from a life of deceit. This is one of the worst things that can happen to a person and he deserved to know. You would have been betraying him too if you did not tell him, which would have made the situation so much worse.

[@DFullerLisa]

Second story. Soon as OP mentioned the girl comforting their sister i knew the girl dating Steve was guilty. Its appalling that she expevted to go to the wedding as a cheater to the MOH.

[@LadyGoddessSephiroth]

Story 1: So mom keeps blaming OP for HER affair, then gets upset when OP said they wanted some distance? She begged OP not to do it. Why? If it was really OP's fault why is she upset at the prospect being cut off? 🙄 We all know the answer but mom can't even see how contrary her own actions are. She is that self-absorbed.

[@ceemac9]

Unbelievable. The Father never checks in on his sick wife.

[@HyliaFell]

My mom caught my grandpa cheating on my grandma when she was 16 and he responded by calling her a bunch of slurs, a liar, and kicked her out of the house for "lying and trying to ruin his life" and my grandma was so delusional she just allowed it to happen. My grandma finally believed it when he left her a year or so later for the affair partner, never re-married, and my mother and my grandpa didn't reconcile until she was in her late 40's.

[@katharineeavan9705]

completely baffled that they ever reconciled at all to be honest. It's one thing to try to put aside a parent's bad behaviour and betrayal of your other parent, but it's another to forgive and allow contact with someone who called you slurs, turned your other parent against you and kicked you out when you were a child. He may have grown and changed, I don't know, but personally even if he had (which seems doubtful for a person like that tbh) I'd be happy for him from a distance and have absolutely no inclination to reconcile

[@standinthegsp6858]

Rest assured, neither Steve nor Amanda will remain faithful to each other. Their relationship most likely will not be Blessed. When he cheats on her, breaks it off& she comes to you crying gently remind her that when you lie down with dogs you often wake up with fleas & people reap what they sow.

[@KLT-id9nm]

Story 1: Wait wait wait. She claimed to have _cancer_ to cover the pregnancy? Did I hear that right? Holy crap.

[@superkingoftacos2920]

How trash can one person be? She does one of the worst things you can do to a man, after her affair partner forces her to not do the actual worst thing you can do to man, then blames her daughter for her being a psychopath. Hope op disowns her.

[@jameslyons6655]

The wedding story. This Amanda creature is in for a big heaping serving of karma when Steve steps out on her, which he probably already is. She will the undoubtably reach out to OP to try to worm her way back in, OP sounds like she is too smart to fall fo that.

[@catherinetiernan5888]

The messenger will always get shot. If you tell your Dad be prepared for the fallout.

[@AIBot929]

Last Story: Amanda needs to get some self esteem, pretty sure she's not the only one he's sleeping. She'll figure it out that he ain't worth it, but by then I think she'll knocked up

[@suheycrespo8376]

They are saying Play stupid games when stupid prizes

[@browniewin4121]

1) Wow, what a messed up situation. Affair partner and the mom are so lacking in judgement and morals. The dad needs to be told. I feel sad for the collateral damage. After update: I'm glad the truth came out, sad as it is. OP has nothing for which to feel guilty, the problem did not cause the problem, it's all on the cheating, lying mom. After 2nd update: Ya, no way to recover from this type of betrayal. 2) I feel sorry for the friend for getting connected to a guy who was known to be awful, and I think OP is right to say this guy is not wanted at the wedding. NTA. This may tank the friendship, but considering her behavior and lack of regard for anyone else, not much loss. After update: Yup, good to end that former friendship. After next update: Glad OP told former friend what's what and gave her a reality check even though I doubt it will get through her dense skull. She is a big a POS as the guy she is now with, they deserve each other.

[@KhaosChilde97]

The affair partner thought the couple were in a secret open marriage and only found out AFTER she got pregnant that wasnt the case. He had no fault there. Not saying anything after also cant be put on him because lets face it, not everyone would be able take destroying someones ‘happy’ family, even if the fault didnt lye on them.

[@Grace_x68]

S2 Amanda /Steve might gatecrash the wedding. OP need to secure the venue

[@evanmatsumoto0666]

I'd put money on Amanda getting cheated on and come crawling back apologizing

[@axepagode33626]

No Ex at Wedding Story: How much do you want to bet that the OP's best friend was hooking up with OP's sister's Ex when they were still dating? On to the update let's see what happened.

[@Rosegirl398]

Spoilers - - - - - - - - - - - That’s about what happened. He would go to her if he and Lily argued. Pathetic

[@nareegreel]

Story 1: it's the fact that OPs mom got pregnant with an affair baby and kept it. I feel so bad for OPs entire family except her mom and grandmother.

[@gloriasowle8083]

I'm sorry, but Amanda is a fool. If he was cheating on Lily that bad, he is going to cheat on her also. He has her buffaloed into believing she is his only one. She's not.

[@TheMimiSard]

Story 1 - Honestly I am glad Affair Partner is a Good Guy. I would hope OP and their family go all in and are Good Siblings to Baby. Really, given the age difference, OP and their sibs will be more like Baby's Aunts and Uncles.

[@TheMimiSard]

Story 2 - Amanda is a chump if she really thinks she's the only woman in Steve's life now.

[@beverlynaquin1256]

Tell your father.this is on her. Well your mom and grandma are the ones in the wrong. Dont allow anyone to put the blame on you. She is in the wrong

[@bloxnirogaming5269]

Story 1: the mom manipulated EVERYONE

[@HelenWA]

the sociopathic grandmother was just as much of a monster!

[@MizTameRumors]

it's actually gross that the mother put the burden of telling on her own child. As soon as OP found out she should have come clean.... If she couldn't face that she could have just wrote a letter and left.

[@josspa6558]

For a little while Amanda belives to be something special for steve, but not long steve does exactly same to Amanda as he did to ops sister.. and then Amanda is sorry for doing that for op and her sister because she did not only got betrayed but also lost her friends.. and then she got a cheating man and no friends.. I would not want to be Amanda.. but I don't understand how she could even think OP wanted to see to apologize and invite Steve to her wedding... What is the thinking behind that? How she can't see how she was wrong?

[@Luttibelle]

Final story: I don’t feel bad for Amanda one bit. She’ll get what she deserves.

[@reapersgirl6407]

The final one I wouldn’t be surprised if she shows up anyway.

[@sgtjarhead99]

So the Mom got destroyed in the divorce, eh? Good. Cheats deserve no mercy.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Yup. Especially if they're shameless cheats who cruelly blame their poor children for their lives blowing up.

[@Letha-AnnCooper]

Tell your dad immediately!! Your mom is a cheater and had a child with a young man close to your age don’t cover for her your dad will blame you as well as your mom and grandma. You will become complicit in this scheme

[@starrhunter633]

The last story the friend is horrible. She really wanted to show off to OP's sister that she got her ex boyfriend and that's why she wanted to go to the wedding. It was a power move and she lost OP handled it perfectly.

[@STB-jh7od]

Guess before update:She was gone for 6 months, but delivered a baby before coming back meaning she was pregnant before she left, and cancer was a cover. I don't believe for a second that after being found out mom went to Grams.

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

What an absolute mess this is! Poor OP. Poor OP's siblings and OP's poor dad. AP is a victim of narc mom too, because he was lied to. And he didn't find out until AFTER she got pregnant. So yeah. Narc mom was awful to everyone. Now, I'm not an expert when it comes to open relationships/open marriages but I'm pretty sure that they should be mutually agreed upon. And it probably will never be what I want, but if others can make it work, I say, all the power to them. Just because an open marriage isn't a traditional marriage doesn't mean it can't work. But this was NO open marriage and narc mom is just an awful person (not just for cheating, but also blaming one daughter and getting into a physical altercation with another) and she absolutely deserves to lose her perfect life and family. As my father would say, you reap what you sow.

[@carloscampos5860]

Sooooo.... Who wanna bet that in two years top steve cheats on amanda and she goes to op in tears?

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

That's not a bet. That's a guarantee. I don't necessarily believe in the phrase, "Once a cheater, always a cheater", but it definitely rings true for Sleazeball Steve seeing as he cheated on OP's poor sister Lily with at least 3 other girls, including Awful Amanda.

[@michaelmcguire682]

Tell your dad he has the right to know what kind of woman who will leave a baby no matter how the child came to be she is no good she not only cheated on your father she cheated you out of your family

[@leebarto15]

If you don’t tell your dad soon and he finds out and you covered for your mom your dad is going to totally disown you and go zero contact

[@albertgongora6944]

I'm going to say this on the first story and I know it has an update but I just want to say this as a survivor of cancer if I was in this situation and I found out that my grandmother and mother covered some type of very up just with the idea of one of them had cancer and all that not only would I be really pissed off and kill insulted to the people that are actually suffering with that disease like I did but I would go so nuclear to the point that I would just let everything out I don't care what Bridges I burn I don't care who goes against me who doesn't want to talk to me no more I'm sorry that would be it for me and then not only that I would feel at least my father deserves to know what's been going on behind his back and how he didn't deserve that and I hope in the update the same conclusion happens because I'm sorry to say like the way the grandmother and the mother just covered it up with cancer just pisses me off cuz I Had A Little Bit of Sympathy up until then listen to the story but the moment I found out it was all just a way to hide things I was like nah fuck these people

[@HelenWA]

I suspect both the grandmother and her daughter are serial cheaters. One sociopath bred another. Of course they covered for one another.

[@CreepyBlueAnimals84]

Cheating Friend: Amanda is delusional. If he's going to cheat with her (and apparently other women) he'll cheat on her with other woman. She's in love and an AH. He's in lust and a HUGE AH. P.S. Egg donor in first story is a HUGE AH too.

[@cjb2749]

It drives me absolutely nuts when women knowingly get with cheaters, and then immediately start acting like it's true love, and oh so real, and she's special, and everybody should be able to see that they're soulmates 🙄 It's only been 10 months since he got caught cheating on his long term girlfriend, and this chick expects everybody to forget all about that little accident and see him as a new person because he's changed..? Maybe SOME people could/would go for that, but certainly NOT his ex and her family! That's beyond ridiculous! I'm surprised that he even wants to go, and I'm shocked that she's willing to FIGHT for him to be there! This is her bff's wedding, and she's acting like the cheating dbag that she's been dating for less than a year should automatically be welcomed wherever she's invited! 😂 Girl, he's not your husband, you really need to calm down. This girl is going to have a full on breakdown, reeling from the shock, when he cheats on her. Or maybe I should say when SHE CATCHES HIM cheating, because I have no doubt that when he starts, if she even suspects, he'll deny it with some "of course not, baby, you know you're the only one I've ever wanted" bs, and she'll eat it up...

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

Not just women. Men do it too. I remember a story about a wife ditching her poor husband for some rich guy and he was laughing at him. Well, the ex-husband got the last laugh because he saw that his ex-wife cheated on him too and set it to him.

[@oldgreggsmadmemes4431]

Well at least the Mom has a new baby since she doesn't have her old kids or husband anymore

[@pippo17173]

Like I said before in the last video about this, this isn't a everyone lose situation. Mom is the real loser when everyone manages to win against her and they gain an ally on the way. The mom lost everything and it's the best outcome op and family could get.

[@carolroberts4614]

Yes, at least the siblings seem to be united. I feel b ad for op, I'm sorry she's been made to feel guilty by her horrible mum and gran.

[@kirtemoon529]

I’ve always wondered this (and it’s prolly stupid of me to do so) but how the fuck do you hide AN ENTIRE BABY FOR YEARS???

[@p.fantuci]

Cheaters will always try to deflect blame and find a multitude of reason to justify their lack of character. The mom is story1 is scummy.

[@InDeathWeLove]

S2) People like to think if someone cheated on their partner to be with them that's just because they're better/so awesome. That's not what it means though. It just means cheater is a cheater and they will most likely repeat the cheating in the new relationship too. Don't really feel sympathy for AP getting cheated on at that point though first off they deserve is morally and secondly they were dumb enough to not see that coming. Amanda will get hers given time if she isn't already.

[@wmdkitty]

Holy cow, that's a whole soap opera!

[@amerlin388]

1. Honestly, I don't consider the accidental affair baby the worst part, it's that OP's mom abandoned her husband to move in with AP to conceal the pregnancy AND continue affair with a 6 month bang-fest. I suppose she gets points for not terminating the pregnancy. If only things were different... like there actually had been an open marriage... even an accidental pregnancy might be forgiven. With today's contraception and protection against disease, I think (limited) open marriages are gaining acceptance. Maybe not for OP's parents' generation or older (we are too set in our ways). Giving each other permission for an infrequent extramarital adventure (occurring in roughly equal measure) would satisfy curiosity and bring a measure of excitement to their lives. Ideally, marriage should be based on more than just mutual exclusivity.

[@GeneralBumpkis]

Moving in with the AP was pretty bad, but I’d say the worst part is that the mother had an affair with the son of a family friend who is close to the age of her eldest child. This woman probably knew this kid as a minor, and who knows if there was some level of grooming involved. It’s all skeevy af though. What a rotten person.

[@HelenWA]

In today's age, there is no such thing as an accidental pregnancy. This was her intentionally being reckless and the husband should get a dna test for those twins as well as the first husband getting one for his kid in england. SHE BRAGGED HER INTENTION WAS TO COMMIT PATERNITY FRAUD this wasn't her first time cheating, it was just the first time getting caught.

[@emo7636]

All of these folks saying how the mother is evil and a terrible person need to leave their basement and step out into reality for a few minutes. Name one person who would have immediately come clean after having an affair and getting pregnant, name one person who would not have been psychologically affected by giving birth and leaving the baby behind. This lady did a shitty thing, but some of y'all have no humanity. I couldn't imagine leaving my newborn, seeing it out in public and not being able to hold it, then again I wouldn't get knocked up by someone who is not my partner. But I don't see this woman as evil, nothing is ever that 'black and white' or 'this and that'. And no, I'm not a cheater and I've been with my partner for 11 years and 2 small children. I simply have some empathy for this woman, as well as her family. Ok, after hearing the end of this story this is another example of me opening my fat mouth and letting feelings spill out. This lady totally lost me when I heard 'she's trying to get whatever she can' out of the husband and when I heard she lied about being in an open marriage to trick that man into an affair. Throw that woman away.

[@yurik1994]

Happy bday! I’ve just spent a day walking 9 miles all over London with my wife few days ago! I think it was the most i’ve walked in my life lol

[@jjgandthatsenough]

It’s obvious that Steve and Amanda were having the affair together before sister dumped him. “Be happy for our love” is textbook upgraded affair partner. And sorry but my friend dating a cheating ex of my sibling and talking about how amazing he is when he cheated on my sibling (probably with you) would be a dealbreaker for me. Those are not the type of friends I would want. After the updates: well👀

[@shebakoby]

ugh it wouldn't surprise me if the mom in story 1 has a cluster B problem, like Histrionic or something like that. That overlaps a lot with Narc but also has the component of a severely inappropriate direction of the passionate hugging drive.

[@HelenWA]

she's an absolute sociopath like all cheaters

[@CarinaCoffee]

First story: not only did she cheat, lie, etc., she lived with her affair partner AND HIS KIDS for half a year. Imagine those kids getting used to her, then having a baby brother and the woman is suddenly gone. Fair of him to keep his kid and now helping with the divorce, but people on reddit always get chewed out for falling for the "we're broken up/ in an open relationship" lines, especially when it's women. Just two thoughts that came to mind.

[@bernadettedegama601]

Now she can live with her baby and afair partner. Play happy familie. She divorce now. Get wat she want.

[@HelenWA]

@@bernadettedegama601 that sociopath didn't want a family. she wanted to get off betraying someone who shouldn't of ever trusted her. Since THAT is what's gone now, she doesn't see a point of participating. The whole point was to deceive and control, but she's been disowned. Who will she victimize now? Another Amber Heard situation...

[@PrincessQ-fj9ly]

​@@bernadettedegama601 Well, I'm be honest. She doesn't even deserve her affair partner or her baby son, seeing as she lied to him and she abandoned her baby son. 😒

[@madisonl3401]

Happy belated birthday! I hope you have so much fun in London! I'm jealous! 😁

[@TheLilyMustang]

My father cheats a lot. He cheated on my mom for years. My mom, sisters & I always make jokes that we might have a couple hundred half siblings. Or how he might have had another family across town because he worked a lot of “over night shifts” & refuse to deposit his pay check into an account my mom could see

[@nikkiwhray1598]

You say that as a joke, but it actually happened to my neighbors. She had 8 kids. Her husband was an alcoholic, and they would separate, reconcile, have another kid, then split again. Over and over. When the husband died, they found out that he had a whole damn family on the other side of town, where he would go each time the wife threw him out.

[@TheLilyMustang]

@@nikkiwhray1598 OMG that is nuts. And we “joke” but it is one of those “jokes” we can see actually coming true. He was a Fed & co workers covered for each other a lot. Even affairs with other co workers spouses. They would tell spouses that the building or prison he was sometimes at was in “lockdown” so that is why they couldn’t contact their husband or wife

[@telinhajp]

Hi Mark! Have a wonderful Thursday! ❤️

[@MarkNarrations]

Hey Telinha, thank you so much! Hope you have a great one also!

[@dm9078]

I remember this story and it makes no sense. No one is that busy! In six months there was not one zoom, Skype or FaceTime call. In that six months there was not one school break, not thanksgiving, Christmas or spring break not a three day federal holiday that dad could take a day off pack the kids and himself onto a budget airline to fly to see the sick grandmother they love, the mother they love and miss and the wife he loves and hasn’t seen in weeks. Sorry but I’m calling BULLSH1TE!

[@RatTailSoup4]

good thing its early today, im not busy for a bit so I have time to listen!

[@MarkNarrations]

Nice, enjoy your time :)