"I have PLENTY OF TIME": understanding women's timelines

[@psychacks]

This phrase -- "I have plenty of time" -- is one I've heard from many, many women throughout my dating history. However, is that really true? In today's episode, I discuss some of the uncomfortable facts about female fertility, especially as they pertain to men's sexual selection priorities. In today's world, women can be anything -- but they can't be everything. Because no one can. Fertility facts: www.cnyfertility.com/fertility-stats-by-age/ Social Media Facebook: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100090053889622 LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/orion-taraban-070b45168/ Instagram: instagram.com/psyc.hacks Twitter: twitter.com/oriontaraban Website: oriontarabanpsyd.com Orion's Theme: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jaO7c62HZ613e7M Thinking of going to grad school? Check out STELLAR, my top-rated GRE self-study program based on the world's only empirically-validated test prep system. Use the code "PSYCH" for 10% off all membership plans: stellargre.com. Become a Stellar affiliate and earn a 10% commission for every membership purchased by a new student you conduct into the program: stellargre.tapfiliate.com. GRE Bites: www.youtube.com/@grebites4993 Become a Psychonaut and join PsycHack's member community: kzbin.info/door/SduXBjCHkLoo_y9ss2xzXwjoin Book a paid consultation: oriontarabanpsyd.com/consultations Sound mixing/editing by: valntinomusic.com Presented by Orion Taraban, Psy.D. PsycHacks provides viewers with a brief, thought-provoking video several days a week on a variety of psychological topics, inspired by his clinical practice. The intention is for the core idea contained within each video to inspire viewers to see something about themselves or their world in a slightly different light. The ultimate mission of the channel is to reduce the amount of unnecessary suffering in the world. #psychology #dating #relationship

[@WoziduranJahemter]

Their beauty fades as they indulge in more degrading activities of sin and thus they become sick, wicked and diseased. Watchout, near them usually some things manifest such as: confusion, lack of concentration, amnesia and memory afflictions as they are toxic pestilent and degenerative presences of sin. They degraded their energetical fields and they create smogs of leeching around them, they steal mental energy!!!!

[@truecatholic1]

FYI IVF is wrong. It is unnatural.

[@lapiedra7121]

With all due respect, I also got news for you. I hate to break it down to you but here it goes: All men’s sperm also deteriorates with age. The older a man gets the worse quality of sperm he produces and his chances of producing healthy offspring decreases just as fast as a woman’s eggs as she ages. I’m talking from experience here. I married at age 20. Got pregnant when I had just turned 21 and gave birth to our first child before turning 22. My husband was nearly 40 when I became pregnant with this baby. Our baby was born with a genetic defect due to the poor quality of his sperm given his age at the time. A year after giving birth to our first baby, I became pregnant with our second child who was also born with a genetic defect. At that point we had to be tested and it turns out…it was all because of the poor quality of his aged defective sperm. All confirmed by not one, but 3 doctors. I’m now trapped in the sad reality of caring for my two disabled children, never being able to see them flourish and thrive, never being able to seeing them off to college, nor to see them getting married and having their own families too, and this will be the case for the rest of my life. My life as I had hoped is ruined forever and so is my children’s lives as they have to live that reality all because I decided to marry an older man. Had I known this, I would not want a 37+ year old man’s sperm anywhere near me. I now find the idea of older people procreating disturbing and repulsive just because of the high risk of birth defects and other health issues which is cruel to the babies that come from it. A man’s peak for healthy reproduction/fertility is also in his 20 and early 30s and after that it declines exponentially. If women should not reproduce in their late 30s and 40s, neither should men.

[@WoziduranJahemter]

@@lapiedra7121 then those kids are more his than yours both together. Letting your kids live without available healing medication might be harsh on them too to continue living as tormented afflicted beings. Seek help for their health improvement I guess.....

[@StayFractalesque]

​@@lapiedra7121..a man's sperm is created a new every day.. ..a woman is born with all her eggs, thats why they're so damaged by the time she gets to her 30s, when she's already gone through about 80% of her eggs.. so, no, your hypothesis is disingenuous and your conclusion is wrong..

[@jarrettgorin]

When I was 46, I met and briefly dated a really stunning 39 year old woman. On maybe our 3rd date she told me that it was "really important to her to have children." I was previously married and already have a son who at the time was 14. Having more children was not a priority for me. I actually wasn't 100% against having another child someday....with the right woman. Maybe a 30 year old who might be 32 or 33 when she became a mother. Not with a 39 year old I just met. And that right there is the problem. I had to stop dating her immediately. Not because of what she said, but because I felt like it would terrible for me to waste even a few months of her time when she essentially had no time left.

[@christopherclyde7791]

Brother... no man will pick her up t9 have kids with intentionally.. Maybe a man will accidentally impregnate her....

[@alienkishorekumar]

@@LisaCulton You sound like you didn't like what you heard.

[@alexmuenster2102]

A "really stunning 39-year-old woman who CLAIMS that it is "really important to her to have children" is LYING. This would be like a 39-year-old, out-of-shape MAN saying that it is really important for him to become an "Olympic athlete." If she really was "really stunning," she could have had those kids FIFTEEN YEARS ago!

[@jarrettgorin]

@@LisaCulton No one pays a fortune teller who tells them about things anyone can “predict”…

[@Pssst.ByTheWay]

That was rather conscientious of you. Indeed every second counts

[@peterg76yt]

I suspect the biggest part of the problem is not that women don't understand the issues, but rather that few women are humble enough to accept that they likely are not the one in a million exception to the general trend.

[@memesofproduction3]

Yeah I was just trying to explain this to @SmoothCode a few comments above

[@CaptainVillanueva1]

They all believe their gods gift to earth and don't "settle" for any man

[@jonathanpenduka7420]

They'll always be one in the comments who says they did it a 40 and nothing went wrong for them. the ones with problems will never come out and say it creating confirmational bias

[@SmoothCode]

And even if the woman that is indeed an exception to the general trend you guys would likewise put them down and make them out to the villain in all of this. I see how it actually is.

[@SmoothCode]

@@beowulf_of_wall_st Why don't you be absolutely honest and just say you want them to settle? Isn't that what you and Orion are suggesting? When said average bloke cheats on the woman, it still ends up being her fault since she settled for less.

[@dauphinviennois]

“But time, it is like charm. You never have as much as you think.”

[@NYs9thwonder]

No one has time. Everyday is a gift. The only time we have, is the time we spent in life.

[@AnAussieinNorway]

I had a discussion about this with my mother who’s 68 and my sister who’s 34 and has 2 kids and they completely disagreed. They just won’t not concede the truth of women’s fertility and ended up telling me anecdotes they know someone who successfully conceived at 40 ect. They cannot give this feminist belief up because they think that it’s an attack on feminist ideology.

[@postmodernmining]

Truth is an attack on feminist ideology.

[@richardschwarz7907]

You just described what happens in every Fresh & fit episode

[@jayc342009]

Why argue with women, they do not listen.

[@Guildofarcanelore]

@@jayc342009indeed. They aren’t interested in the truth. Ask Sharon Stone or Paulina Poriskova. The wall comes for everyone and it is undefeated.

[@clauaome25]

it's true, a woman can still conceive after 40s, not ideal, but possible

[@thdjjfsfh]

I've been extremely analytical my entire life which has made me quite successful and like you, I literally work backward. I wanted up to four kids and decided I wanted them before she was 35. Two years per child means we need to have our first kids at 27, which means marriage at 26, which means dating at 24. She was 23 when we met, I was 27. We had our first child when she was 28 and the second when she was 30. She decided that two was enough. We saved enough money when we were together and our spending habits were frugal enough that having children was fully budgeted in. She even took an additional two years to get a third degree after our second kids. Now she's in a demanding and exhausting career, and I only need to work part-time. Guys, we don't have the right personality to take care of babies and toddlers, but I love my elementary school kids so much. I work while they are in school and pick them up right after school so we can do fun stuff. Teaching them to do simple things like playing soccer, making fire, and putting up a tent has such an unexpected dose of happiness. It makes you realize that your boss/job/career is just a simple financial transaction where you give your time and experience for some money so you can do the important things in life.

[@khena6784]

​@@mikey92362we could be wrong, but generally speaking, the set up is not ideal

[@thdjjfsfh]

@@mikey92362 Don't tell me, is it because she make more money than me? Even at 24-32 hours a week, I made twice as much as she does. Even if she wants to divorce me, I am a healthy and handsome man. I don't wear my wedding ring in the gym and women notice. I am not worried. I can I don't mind remarrying and having 2 more kids. That said, I am happy with my marriage.

[@cmlxjcky]

I've done this very same analysis. So did Rachel, in Friends, in the episode titled, "The One Where They All Turn 30" It's amazing to me how many women totally ignore these child hard facts AND how, when presented with them, deny their existence OR claim they will just get IVF. The stats on IVF are pretty depressing. People should look at that technology more like playing the lotto with a lot of money/tickets (you improve your odds, but you still hold losing hand) and less like an insurance policy, but now I'm just going into "old man tells yells cloud" mode. 😂

[@cmlxjcky]

*cold hard facts

[@alexmuenster2102]

@@mikey92362 >>I bet 95% of the guys who read what you wrote would agree and can tell you why.

[@Khan-rz8qi]

This is why you see many women shaming older men who are using their leverage in order to sleep with/court younger women. They want older guys to take on a raw deal while she’s in her decline, but wouldn’t even consider you when she was in her prime. Men who’ve worked hard to gain their leverage, should be able to enjoy it with no remorse. It’s not their job to save women who are on their decline, it’s women’s jobs to make better decisions.💯

[@patnor7354]

Truth

[@eQuariuz]

"They want older guys to take on a raw deal while she’s in her decline" Just brutal. Brutal truth.

[@Mr.Ambrose_Dyer_Armitage_Esq.]

*_"Sounds like something a p3do would say!"_* Say the single "moms" who raise most 🍇ists, perverts, and sociopaths while taking on scumbag boyfriends who neglects and/or "use" their kids because they're not _their_ kids.

[@SmoothCode]

Men are all too keen to tell women to hold the bag - whether they be young or old. No thanks.

[@annesmith9181]

Nah. I’d just shame young women for being willing to avail themselves to old wrecks with sacks that hang between their knees, puffy eye bags, turkey necks, grown children, high body count, ex wives, and casual attitudes towards intimacy. That’s just plain gross. Better off working the customer service desk at a department store and paying your own way than hoaring your way through the geriatric hoarmongers for measly payoff of a house and a yearly Caribbean vacation.

[@ianwynne764]

Hello: Last year, I was talking to a lady who was 33. I asked her if she wanted to have children. She replied that she hadn't decided. While I didn't say anything, I thought, "No, you have decided. You just aren't aware of the decision. Have a wonderful day.

[@KingJoshwer]

what

[@kemikunle9360]

Sometimes it's a lie to not scare you that they want to be pregnant yesterday

[@ianwynne764]

@@kemikunle9360 Hello Kemi: I understand what you mean. However, in this case I don't think she was facing the reality. Have a good day.

[@kemikunle9360]

@@ianwynne764 Hi, I see. Yeah, it's all about the nonverbal signals.

[@seventhkeyomegasghost8233]

lol

[@parkyhobo5688]

Excellent video, as usual. I'll be more blunt than the good doctor and add this: younger women have less baggage, less bitterness, lower body count (i.e. lower alpha widow probability) and a woman in her prime has options so she is more likely really sold on you long term, less likely doing a chameleon job on you to get a buzzer-beater marriage.

[@bayareaomg]

Chameleon job for a buzzer beater marriage holyyyy

[@kengaroo5170]

The older menopausal women sell their feminist failures onto the younger feminists. Just because men have sex with them, does not mean that they are long term. They confuse sexual activity with value. They are gynocentric.

[@avalanche240]

Absolute spot-on, 100%

[@parkyhobo5688]

@@bayareaomg i'm speaking from painful experience!

[@starwalk3r]

This comment should be pinned at the top!!!

[@th4fl4sh4]

All I want is to love and take care of someone who will reciprocate. Too much to ask I guess... When I was in my 20s and 30s, I got rejected by all the women at my age. Now that I'm a handsome, rich doctor, I refuse to date anyone above 32. I'd rather stay single than compromise so much with an older woman. That's my choice just like women rejecting my younger self was theirs.

[@kamelkani4051]

My man 😂

[@santafilipina9020]

So why are you still single if I'm reading your comment correctly?

[@JohnTheKahn]

Sure lol

[@BossItUp911]

@@santafilipina9020 " I got rejected by all the women at my age." being a walking wallet for some aging woman who already had her fun isn't appealing.

[@santafilipina9020]

@@BossItUp911 that was when he was in his 20s and 30s. He also said "all I want is to love and take care of someone who will reciprocate. Too much to ask I guess..." He's also claimed himself as "handsome, rich doctor" so the young ones should be flocking to him, right?

[@delocon]

I'd love to hear your opinions on non-monogamy and polyamory. You have a great way of presenting controversial topics in a way that critiques the idea and not the people.

[@BB-te8tc]

Especially since he doesn't seem to use inflammatory language like many red pill creators do.

[@FavoritesPersonal]

I get the impression from little things he says, that he looks quite favorably upon non-monogamy and polyamory.

[@bge9747]

I would also like to see these topics discussed.

[@zusk8556]

​@@FavoritesPersonalNon-monogamy & polyamory can work very well on a small scale, ie good for the individual. Not so much on the larger scale, ie society as a whole. Polygamous societies are known for being quite violent.

[@wildprodigy]

Polygamy favors men with more resources, more handsome men, etc. Men in general do not tolerate polygamous women. Some women might tolerate a polygamous man but that man got to be somebody special to even do that. Monogamy is the best shot we have at the common man having a wife and kids to look forward to coming home to and that is what will help society push forward

[@TrentReeves-c2k]

Great video, there is nothing like a perfect marriage or relationship, I learnt that in everything there is always a solution, 5 years ago I and my wife divorced because we were having some difficulties in our marriage but we are back together ,it was a really bad phase but we got through it

[@TrentReeves-c2k]

its always difficult to let someone you love go, but in my case I had the help of a spiritual adviser who saved my marriage from collapsing her name is SHELLY RENEE WHITE.

[@FrankM]

That attitude of "I have years to figure it out" results in a bunch of 40-something year old women on dating apps saying they want kids. I've lost count the amount of 44+ year old women wanting their first child. But at least they make it easy for me to pass on them.

[@clauaome25]

oh wow!!! that's not ideal

[@dpstrial]

Many women are totally deluded. They are best left to their own devices.

[@TV-oc4ml]

They smash the younger guy while making u wait

[@kelleemerson9510]

Sounds like dating apps can get you a lot of laughs.

[@pastelmoon9118]

its risky to have kids in that age in early 30s maybe but above +35 nope even then... if couple wish to have more than 1-2 kids then ideal would have been around 23-27y old trying their first kid

[@luxnetic3590]

"The Marriage Crunch" was based on a study by Harvard and Yale researchers that projected college-educated women had a 20 percent chance of getting married if they were still single at 30, a 5 percent chance at age 35, and just a 2.6 percent chance at age 40. The article seemed to reinforce the most old-fashioned ideas of women's place in society, and both infuriated and struck fear into the hearts of women across the country.

[@bramposthumus9300]

It did no such thing. What it did, though, was make men intensely relaxed about not having to suffer constant drama and headaches in their lives. And besides, women are never single.

[@Afrologist]

@@bramposthumus9300 The wall comes for them all. At a certain age, they become invisible as men move their affections toward younger women.

[@brookvalley907]

@@Afrologist my wife said that she knew that she had become invisible when the security guards at her office building no longer flirted with her.

[@lorrilewis2178]

Why do I know so many divorced/widowed women in their 60s who are in brand new committed relationships with men in their age range?

[@bramposthumus9300]

@@lorrilewis2178 What, all three of them?

[@Ivftinianvs]

A relevant footnote to this discussion is that taking care of children 0-18 is physically demanding and much easier for one’s body to handle the younger one is. And this goes for both mamas and daddies. Also remember that a parent has to stay up after children are in bed to accomplish anything after working/daycare/school hours, and that gets harder the older you are. Being an older parent is exhausting. ‘Marry right out of college and start having children a year later’ is the ideal. Don’t worry about the money - it will come with time. And a lot less necessary than most people think. (Over consumption of consumer goods is what makes life expensive- cut back to necessities like previous generations had to do and it’s manageable.)

[@nkrumansantos1794]

In fact, this is the most important part of reproduction. Thanks for expressing exactly what I was thinking.

[@LisaCulton]

Yet, we all (men and women) somehow have the energy to work full-time until we reach retirement age of 65 and beyond.

[@gregtaylor9806]

@LisaCullen - yes, but the point made was, we may not have the energy to do that AND care for children.

[@LisaCulton]

@@gregtaylor9806 What others have done before is possible for you and me. And plenty of parents (and grandparents) have the energy to take care of children and work full time, even if they had children in their late 30s to 50s.

[@ladybug3380]

Marrying right out of college and have a kid a year later? With what money?!

[@andremotivation6561]

Social media, globalized dating market and and a gynocentric society has alot of them in denial about simple biology. It shows alot specifically on dating apps when you see all the women approaching 30+ saying "I'm not looking for fun, I need a responsible provider" the most unattractive thing to say on a dating app.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

Not unattractive at all. Just know they’ll avoid men who say, “I’m not looking for fun, I’m a responsible provider” just as much when they’re 30+ as when they were 20 or 25.

[@Diplomastronaut]

It’s pretty clear in the social science data that the more highly educated and wealthy a country gets, the less fertile it becomes.

[@bramposthumus9300]

It's also clear that the best contraceptive ever devised has a name: feminism.

[@nicolem889]

No. The US increased its population by 100,000,000 since the 90s. We already have a housing shortage and job shortage. We don’t need your kids sir. There’s enough.

[@disgruntledtoons]

It's because people of both sexes become more self-indulgent.

[@aygwm]

Appreciate the pull no punches approach. Unfortunately most people are still in the “nature finds a way” approach. Nobody talks about the autism rate going up in tandem with average birth age of the mother nationally.

[@MayLen3472]

The autism rate is correlated with the age of the father, not the mother.

[@LisaCulton]

It also goes up with proportional to the age of the father.

[@jackandblaze5956]

​@@LisaCulton So... if I wait a few more years I can have a son like Elon Musk? Got it, thanks!

[@hope4463]

Is it the age causing autism or other factors at play?

[@LisaCulton]

@@jackandblaze5956 Do whatever you like. Most babies are healthy.

[@stephanledford9792]

Alice, Jane and Mary are best friends, and they all love fresh fruit. The local grocery brings in the fresh fruit late on Sunday evening, and Alice goes to the store on Monday morning and picks the best fruit available. Jane gets busy and waits till Wednesday, and while there is still some fresh fruit, the best fruit is already gone, so she has to settle for lesser quality fruit. Mary is really plugged into her work schedule, and she doesn't get to the store till Friday, and to her shock, the fruit is gone. Where has all the good fruit gone, she asks.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

She friendzoned all of the remaining good fruit.

[@chrisschneider3873]

Women can be anything but they can't be everything. What a beautifully put point. And something I will explain to both my daughters.

[@hotlucky5622]

Spoiler alert: they won't listen

[@RG-tt1ru]

Indra Nooyi herself said that she sacrificed her family life for her career, while her husband played Mr. Mom. She got backlash for saying that it's not true that women can "have it all."

[@RG-tt1ru]

​@@hotlucky5622 I wouldn't say that. Women do have a hard time hearing the truth about the lies of feminism, but it does matter who tells it to them.

[@hotlucky5622]

@@RG-tt1ru good luck

[@SmoothCode]

Man is cucked already for having only daughters. Seen guys like you before.

[@Karakookas1]

Thank you for sharing your valuable research with everyone.

[@rajakghosh6602]

A 40 year old woman today thinks she's in her best phase of life all because she can get tons of matches on dating apps. But how be they so naive to jot to make the distinction between lust and relationship interest. So when they do see men their age dating girl in their 20s they have to immediately resort to shaming language.

[@Pursuit4happiness]

In my prime guys that where immature I figure they where better off getting there stuff together then get a 20s would be with an older guy mostly traditional marrying a guy with finances basically cuz some guys still remain immature sadly .. but I was the girl in her 20s who could do that .. because just like a guy want a girl with eggs in her prime I would wand a man who makes there sperm in there prime older man don’t make optimal sperm at there older age neither hence it’s visual apparent in there looks immature man didn’t necessarily take care of there health or bad habits as they aged .. and haven’t seen ppl be honest about this what do you think the woman that marry these man cheat there not sexually attached because it’s not by natural selection sexually that there are with these guys it’s finically it’s social survival like dating a lighter person is due to racial survival because sadly it’s still a thing

[@FrankM]

Don't tell women that matches does not automatically mean quality. But 40-something year old women will learn the hard way when they approach 50 and are still single.

[@rsmpride8267]

@@Pursuit4happiness leave open the possibility that in your prime you were immature as well.....

[@n.8899]

​@@Pursuit4happinessI couldn't read more than halfway got a headache. Its a shame spending so much time writing a long comment without any one able to read that cause of luck of punctuation points

[@gibbletronic5139]

They resort to shaming language because they're competing with that 20-something young woman for the same group of men. Once they recognize that their ability to win the game is over, they become bitter, and this is what fuels the venom within their verbal attacks. Single childless women past thirty should add between fifteen and twenty years when looking for their prospective partners. Not only will they regain the advantage of being young, but if her man is also childless and he still wants kids, then they are both operating on the same biological clock.

[@U4ia28]

There generally is no “telling facts in a way that women will hear”. For the most part if a woman sees a fact as inconvenient, not in her favor or paints her in a bad light she’s not going to hear it. No matter who says it, or how said truth is worded and presented. Women generally only hear the things that they want to hear.

[@-haclong2366]

Let's be honest, if a man thinks like this we'd call him a Narcissist.

[@parkyhobo5688]

THIS. And if needed, they'll band together and force their unreality on the world via collectivism and big government.

[@rodrigo100kk]

Narcissists to a T.

[@sallysmith3885]

So true!

[@FergusHodgson]

Agreed. Their confirmation bias is through the roof.

[@GreatRetro]

Doc. Please do the same one for Men! How Men should navigate their lives? Info about business and finances are a lot on the web, but what about personal lives, fertility, Male time, Male happiness in general?

[@OptionTrader-X]

You are good, really. Bur from my experience, women do not get it. Sent my wife the episode about how to deal with women disrespect, and she managed to understand the opposite message. She is also the kind of person that there is more chance that a sky resort be built on the sun, then she will take accountebiloty on the results of her own actions or ever appologise.. saw it useless to send her the video about why women din't appologuse. Now, 6 months later, I can't take it anymore. I seriously want to divorce her.

[@jamescheaye927]

File brother. Get out. Free yourself

[@starwalk3r]

Divorce is the only language they'll understand.

[@michaelangst6078]

She probably was only ever with you because of your money and you were too dumb to see it. that's the problem with this red pill bullshit. Men going after younger women because they have money and view younger woman as more pure is not the recipe for a healthy and happy long lasting marriage

[@rob21]

I used a think finding a pretty, honest, young woman was the priority. Well, it still is, but those are secondary to finding one who thinks logically. Granted that pool is much smaller, but you'll be happier in the end.

[@LiberPater777]

​@rob21 By pool, did you happen to mean puddle? Or maybe a medium soup bowl perhaps?...

[@avalanche240]

Feminism encourages an abuse of leverage on the part of women. I've given this a lot of thought, given that lost time is the greatest regret one can experience. If a woman fails to convince a man of forgoing his time of leverage as you described, she risks falling into mental instability.

[@avlifesavers]

Truth telling is dangerous work. Best of luck to you.

[@michaelzhao1844]

just ended a 5 year LTR at 29, excited to be in the prime of my life :)

[@mikey92362]

You're still 5 years from starting your prime. It keeps getting better.

[@Robbielazar]

Good for you! Keep working on yourself, keep working out and stack money. Your 30s will be the best time of your life

[@MrTraczu]

@@mikey92362 is 35 better than 30?

[@oo9276]

I was just having this. Conversations w a woman. She was 33.. when i broke it down in time and explained geriatric pregnancy, she seemed dumbfounded. To point she started to tear. Career minded , independent woman. Felt bad for her. How these woman are lied too or dont think of the totality of their situation.

[@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb]

Women lie to each other and sabbotage each other. Leave them be, you can tell women nothing.

[@bramposthumus9300]

She's no loss to anybody's gene pool.

[@trpweb]

Ẁomen seem to focus more on the immediate future, I avoid advising women because what I anticipate about their future today, they will realize only after 2-3 years when it actually happens.

[@CaptainVillanueva1]

I make this argument regularly. Vast majority of women don't have a long time vision. That's why many of them do OF and don't think those consequences will ever catch up to them

[@valdius85]

They do not think and they assume they are better than all of the rest of women who cannot get pregnant.

[@oladeleoyelakin882]

This video is better titled: The Brutal Honesty! This dude was brutally honest! Telling the Truth as it is Bro! 😊

[@valdius85]

We went through IVF. We lost many chances. These were tough times. People have no idea how hard it is. I still do not understand why these women do not speak up to tell their experience to warn the younger generation.

[@lindseylim8921]

It goes both ways. Older men are also at higher risk of having offspring with autism and schizophrenia so men should be telling other men to have children by or freeze sperm at 35 and women should also freeze eggs (a sufficient number to offset those that won't survive the process) or have kids by mid thirties. Yet so much of the blame is placed on the women when infertility rates in the US is nearly evenly split between men and women at 9 percent and 11 percent respectively

[@jasonBGI]

Misery loves company.

[@FergusHodgson]

The younger generation do not want to hear it. They prefer to live in a fantasy.

[@GFD_VIDEOS]

Jealousy

[@jasonm7684]

@@lindseylim8921 Stop, please just stop. Women like you keep doing this crap. It doesn't go both ways, this is the doctors point. Women have a totally different timeline than men. First of all, freezing eggs/sperm is no the solution to this problem, its expensive and most people cannot possibly afford day to day living, let alone the mini mortagage you take on for this mess you call a solution. Stop lying to yourself and others, or atleast just keep it to yourself.

[@OnderHassan]

Having dated dozens of attractive women in their twenties who insisted on treating the men they’re dating as options, I frankly have no sympathies left for any of them who finally decide to quickly lock down a man and have kids in their forties. Leave them on the streets where you found them. They made their beds, let them sleep in it.

[@Arcticwind-xw6qg]

Exactly. Women drop men like we are nothing in their 20s.

[@AM-ll1cf]

​@@Arcticwind-xw6qg You're talking as if you're going to settle down with her for marriage and decide to have kids in YOUR 20s. Every man in their 20s just want to fuck around.

[@rickross1751]

@@AM-ll1cf yea that's not true

[@Yasmine91646]

@@rickross1751 Um yes it is true that MOST MEN, not all men, in their 20's want to sleep around. The culture we live in encourages it. I just broke up with a 41 year old single dad living with his mom and he also has mommy issues

[@BxBL85]

The older I get the richer I become and least I care about women's problems.

[@SmoothCode]

Smart women were under no impression that you cared in the slightest in the first place.

[@BxBL85]

When you get shame language from them, that's where you know you're on the right track. Protect yourselves fella brothers!

[@SmoothCode]

@@BxBL85 enjoy your money but stop acting like you care about anyone but yourself. 😂

[@cosmo588]

Rich people don’t care much about anything except themselves

[@juanderuano8969]

Cool video. My relationship of 5 years ended a month ago. The love of my life decided to leave me, I really love her so much I can’t stop thinking about her, I’ve tried my very best to get her back in my life, but to no avail, I’m frustrated, I don’t see my life with anyone else. I’ve done my best to get rid of the thoughts of her, but I can’t, I don’t know why I’m saying this here, I really miss her and just can’t stop thinking about her..

[@juanderuano8969]

Amazing, how did you get a spiritual counselor, and how do i reach her?.

[@juanderuano8969]

Thank you for this valuable information, i just looked her up now online. impressive.

[@rsmpride8267]

@@juanderuano8969 bro what you need to understand is its happened to all of us. so many men have been in your shoes. We all survived it and we keep living. We are not promised a rose garden. Stay hard

[@yuriy5376]

​@jaypritchett3414isn't this "counselor" dead?

[@darbyheavey406]

@hentzarthurharmel5823 five years….yikes..

[@paolocosmo6310]

You should be the US Surgeon General-a great dose of common sense each time! Thank you, sir!

[@tiptopdadddy]

I’m 53. I have 2 grown children. I was engaged to a woman who had a son in his 20s and another who was a tween. We met when I was 47 and she was 41. We got engaged after dating long distance 2 years, bought a house, car and planned for the future. She broke it off after almost 5 years together, 6 months before I was planning to move in. The pandemic played a role, but almost 2 years later I’m still asking myself, “What was she thinking?”. It’s water under the bridge now and I’ve moved on, but I’m trying to wrap my head around how to find realistic, pragmatic wisdom so I don’t make the same mistakes again. Simply put, in the realm of SMV as my stock goes up hers was going down. We got along well and shared a lot of the same sensibilities. At least in the 1st half of the relationship I genuinely felt like we were simpatico. Perhaps she got too big for her britches or had someone whispering in her ear, but what we did together in the relationship was all the things she could never do by herself before I came along, especially vis a vis financial/emotional stability. It’s incredibly daunting at this stage of life, but also liberating, to go back to the dating pool. Mid-40s is my ideal sweet spot. I don’t want more kids and I do want a financially stable partner. I don’t want to be an ATM with ears, nor do I want an emotional basket case. Until men & women can acknowledge SMV, finances, aging and humbly accepting these realities we will continue to flail around not understanding why it’s all so needlessly difficult.

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>She broke it off after almost 5 years together

[@Philosific]

Me and my neighbor was talking about this. hes 56. His wife left him a year and a half ago, tho he knew shed been cheating for 5 years and never said a word. He was just waiting for his last child to finish HS. But she got with some younger guy. Fast forward to the present, he has moved on, now has a 40 something girlfriend. He informed his ex-wife 2 weeks ago, so she didnt hear from anyone else and that they would have no problems since they are still coparenting their last child. She started crying, and even tho she left him why didnt he chase her (which he was never going to do), and sending him loads of text after of pictures of them and how much she hates him. He’s very stoic, and just never respond. Then a few days ago she came over and his gf was there, and she threw a fit, screaming expletives, trying to ram his gf car, and hes now considering getting a restraining order on her… Based on what his daughters say, her thinking was she could do better, and that just hasnt panned out the way she thought it would, and dating and life has been tough. She want to get back with him, but she didnt know that he knew she was cheating all that time

[@georgeelder8415]

Usually these things occur when the woman takes the lead...

[@tiptopdadddy]

@@alexmuenster2102 She played herself. I have no idea what she’s doing now and tbh that’s not my concern. Monkey branching is highly probable, but self sabotage is also a way to emotionally regulate. I’m ok with not knowing, but trust me, my quality of life and financial prospects are exponentially better today.

[@tiptopdadddy]

@@Philosific Yeah, I found out some things she didn’t know I was aware of and that’s why I didn’t chase her. I was a govt contractor for 10 years working on defaulted contracts for DOE. She knew that I’m an excellent detective, not to mention highly intuitive. Sometimes people become reckless because failure is something they can control rather than the unknown of blind faith (despite a tried & true partner). Orion is right on here, unfortunately it’s something that’s become pervasive but impolitic to discuss in mixed company. Sounds like your friend dodged a bullet like I did.

[@AlexioRedemption]

Aside from delivering a great message in this video, I think your living room looks amazing.

[@HofiAgilAghov]

Any young female in the western world should watch this video

[@zombielandiii2711]

You don't have the slightest idea how much I admire you. Bravo for this explanation.

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

I got married at just before 22 and my wife was 25. We squeezed out two kids by the time she was 30. I recommend you do it in your twenties. You can still work, travel, party without any problems. Now I'm 47 and the kids have moved out two years ago. It's great. Look after your health, don't get fat and then live in your forties and onwards. I made the right choice

[@LisaCulton]

I'm over 50 and downhill mountain biking in the Swiss Alps with my teenager. I think I made the right choice.

[@herbertvonsauerkrautunterh2513]

I think so. My wife is 52 and she doesn't want to do anything other than acting like an 80 year old. I might move on

[@mavrk.d]

Bro went full Kevin Samuels with the math. God bless you brother lol

[@capmidnite]

Kevin Samuels, RIP.

[@-haclong2366]

I recently joined a Thai dating site, I was surprised with how many Thai and Filipina women in their mid-40's still want their first child and say that they're open. There is no sense of time, they actually believe that having your first child in your 40's isn't a disadvantage.

[@mikey92362]

I bet a good percentage of them already have kids and just aren't telling you. They know Mr. Moneybags doesn't want a single mom.

[@stefanisilva2493]

Considering economy and how most men see single moms, they are right actually. It's not an advantage.

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>Thai and Filipina women in their mid-40's still want their first child

[@cccollarncuffs]

24 is OTH in TL. These 38 yo women are local rejects.

[@RicksPhatPharm-vw2lb]

Shhh let the simp learn. Passport bros seem to think women are not universal

[@MatthewGraham027]

Your analogy was generous as you know. I would say that a woman wants to have her last kid by 35 for reproductive health reasons. Going by that, she probably wants to start down the road at 25. 5 years for starting dating, getting married, having some time in the marriage, not everything working out perfectly etc. Then another 5 years from start to finish in having a kid. I think 10 years is a decent rule of thumb to go by. Using that, we should probably tell women that they need to get started down the road at 25.

[@bayareaomg]

Rise and shine brothers, may you all navigate the high seas of feminimity with poise

[@ilianacolston8070]

My mom always told me this, and I never listened. I'm 30 today and the older I get the less I see the possibility of it ever happening. However, I've already been married and have one daughter. I honestly just watch his videos because I find his information so valuable and interesting! 😆

[@zusk8556]

It's crazy how many women I see nowadays on the dating apps that are 49 and want kids "some day" or "I'm not sure." I don't remember seeing that even just a few years ago.

[@rafa.gastro]

That is true. In dating apps my age range goes for 30-39. More than a half have in their bios no want kids or im not sure. And I think lady you are running out of time

[@praveenelumalai8074]

This man is so articulate with his language. Really great stuff man. Highly thought provoking and reassuring for young guys who are worried about not being in a relationship before 30s. Little did they know they’re actual value begins right around that age.

[@sypherd.3771]

I was JUST having this conversation with a friend while we were on a “couples” date for my wife’s birthday. She made the comment that men who look for younger women are creeps. I walked her through literally the EXACT same scenario. They have 2 young boys. And I used the youngest as an example and said “imagine he’s 32 years old and looking to settle down. He knows he wants to get married and have two kids.” I walked through literally every year as you described it with a woman his same age. That’s crazy lol. But yes. This is the fact. Women have been taught that there is zero value in a man’s perspective, so they filter everything through their own head and decide what they think he really means based on THEIR perspective. Another perfect example is a video I saw on social media the other day where a girl went around to about 10 girls and asked if men prefer natural or a BBL. Every single girl said BBL. The girl then did the same thing with 10 men. Every single man said natural. Then I look at the comments. And one girl says “Translation- they want a natural girl to LOOK like she has a BBL” and a bunch of girls commented below her like “yes. I was thinking the same thing.” Smh. Leaving aside the fact that the one word response, “natural”, didn’t actually require any translation, her explanation made ZERO sense. Every girl who gets a BBL wants it to LOOK as natural as possible. Not the other way around. Who the hell wants something real, but wants it to LOOK fake? You can apply this to anything. Fake jewelry, etc. the whole point of “fake” is to mimic reality. This goes to show you that it has absolutely NOTHING to do with what men say. It has everything to do with how women FEEL about what men say. Girls who are getting older and know they can’t compete with younger women (and they definitely know this which is why they spend a lot of money trying to make themselves look younger) , will try to shame men about their preferences in order to feel better about their chances. Anyway, just thought it was funny I used the exact same example to explain this.

[@josepsoler4124]

And there is more: DIVORCES. For the present half the marriages fail and divorce. For a woman in her mid twenties or thirties, dating, choosing a man, getting adapted to him and finally marrying may take YEARS. If they finally divorce, which is a very likely possibility, she has to begin again. The years pass by and the countdown does not stop

[@meliciaoliveira9895]

Exactly. This happened with me 😂 I’m happy that at least I married early.

[@MegaDePorter]

I am surprised clerics, bishops, priests, preachers, pastors and older women (40+) have not worked to silence you. Best best wishes, thoughts, and prayers. Please keep on. Thank you.

[@tdaye6978]

It's amazing that women don't already have this figured out. I've known this since high school, and I didn't exactly go searching for this information. It's just common sense, even to high school boys

[@jwill9877]

The majority of them know. What they don't know is the older they get, the less likely they will get a man they actually want. They confuse sleeping with high value men with locking them down.

[@yoshi314]

women and common sense. pick one.

[@lorrilewis2178]

Most women DO know. smh Just because some dumb people exist, doesn't mean most women don't know.

[@sandboy5880]

Dude, we're talking about women here. Nothing makes sense about them.

[@mrdouche9172]

Here is my personal anecdotical example. My mother had 3 kids from 35 to 40. First at 35, second at 38, last at 40. Every pregnancy was not easy and had some complications. She had to get not one, not two, but three C-sections. Imagine the strain on the body and reproductive system being cut three times. And all of us had issues. I had lazy eye(had to get surgery when I was a baby). My other brother was born very premature, barely survived, and one of his balls didn't drop(Cryptorchidism) and my parents realized it way later when he was a small kid and he had to get surgery and now he has one smaller ball and very significantly increased chance of testicular cancer. My youngest brother was born fine, then way later when he was like 18, he had a full mental breakdown out of literally nowhere and multiple psychotic episodes and was admitted to a psychiatric ward for quite a few months. He thought he lost his dick(when he didn't obviously) and was hearing voices randomly from people he knew, seeing dogs around him, and other bizzare stuff. He got fine though, so all is well. Studies show that old eggs and old sperm increase chance of psychological issues in a kid, that's why I am mentioning the last one. What I am saying here is that it's far far more preferable to get pregnant and have kids earlier, if you want to avoid potentially deadly issues during pregnancy and to maximize the chances of your kids being healthy. Both my grandmother and aunt from my mother's side had kids early, gave birth normally and didn't have any issues.

[@franknada8235]

👍

[@rf-uj5sc]

How old was your father? Asking because psychiatric disorders are correlated more strongly with the fathers age.

[@mikesolns1364]

Sounds like demons

[@Yasmine91646]

If you dont abuse the fuck out of your body it doesn't age that much. I am 32 and people still think I am in my early 20's. I eat a carnivore diet. I don't eat seed oils which causes rapid aging because they oxidize in the body, inhibit cellular respiration and lead to lipofuscin. You seriously think human beings stopped having children in their 30's pre-civilization?? The way modern humans live causes many health issues; people hardly get sunlight anymore (contrary to popular belief, sunlight does not cause aging and cancer, it is the presence PUFAs in your body that oxidize in the sunlight, which causes aging and cancer), people eat vegan diets, people don't drink quality water anymore, (the water we used to drink from flowing steams and rivers was STRUCTURED WATER that was living and brimming with life and oxygen), and most of our food sources are polluted. And people wonder why most modern humans are weaker and frailer compared to our hunter gatherer ancestors. The female human body still releases eggs in her 30's for a reason smh. So we are all supposed to start having as many kids as possible at 17 years old and then just stop as soon as we hit 30, according to your logic. You clearly have never heard of telomeres. Biologically I am still in my 20's. I still have very strong ovulation(not the same as menstruating. Every time I talk to guys about ovulation some of them always think I am talking about my vagina bleeding smh. How tf they don't know about basic human female reproduction is beyond me) like I did when I was in my teens. Chronological age does not always match biological age. My mom had me when she was 34. My dad was was 23 when he got her pregnant. I have no health issues at all. I was born a nice healthy baby at 9 lbs 3 oz I am not saying we should have children well into our late 50's, but saying 30 years old is the cut off point is dumb and arbitrary.

[@Yasmine91646]

If you dont abuse your body it doesn't age that much. I am 32 and people still think I am in my early 20's. I eat a carnivore diet. I don't eat seed oils which causes rapid aging because they oxidize in the body, inhibit cellular respiration and lead to lipofuscin. You seriously think human beings stopped having children in their 30's pre-civilization?? The way modern humans live causes many health issues; people hardly get sunlight anymore (contrary to popular belief, sunlight does not cause aging and cancer, it is the presence PUFAs in your body that oxidize in the sunlight, which causes aging and cancer), people eat vegan diets, people don't drink quality water anymore, (the water we used to drink from flowing steams and rivers was STRUCTURED WATER that was living and brimming with life and oxygen), and most of our food sources are polluted. And people wonder why most modern humans are weaker and frailer compared to our hunter gatherer ancestors. The female human body still releases eggs in her 30's for a reason smh. So we are all supposed to start having as many kids as possible at 17 years old and then just stop as soon as we hit 30, according to your logic. You clearly have never heard of telomeres. Biologically I am still in my 20's. I still have very strong ovulation(not the same as menstruating. Every time I talk to guys about ovulation some of them always think I am talking about my vagina bleeding smh. How tf they don't know about basic human female reproduction is beyond me) like I did when I was in my teens. Chronological age does not always match biological age. My mom had me when she was 34. My dad was was 23 when he got her pregnant. I have no health issues at all. I was born a nice healthy baby at 9 lbs 3 oz I am not saying we should have children well into our late 50's, but saying 30 years old is the cut off point is dumb and arbitrary.

[@peripheralparadox4218]

Young men need to know about baby rabies too. I was bitten by a 27yo when I was 20. I had no idea desperate women would steal sperm and force a guy they’ve just met to be a father.

[@silverhetch3383]

yeah, we gotta be careful

[@merdog3190]

Was it breaking and entering? Get a ring camera. Did you leave it unlocked? I have misplaced my sperm a few times but never had it stolen. Were you asleep? I kill myself sometimes lol. Jk sorry to hear that ...sports stars and celebrities are regularly told to flush their condoms was that the case?

[@jackandblaze5956]

Young men, beware the leg lock. That's where the woman convinces you not to use a condom then locks her legs around you at the "right" moment. There should be a law against this - but there's not. No judge will feel sorry for you

[@cihuacoatl1887]

yeah don't trust someone with "shes taking the pill", the pills that crazy ladies take are not that effective.

[@tacticalmobile1343]

Did you get a DNA test

[@COACHFSTATON]

I love how Doc is simply saying the same exact things that Mr. Kevin Samuels has stated over the years.

[@pmcauslan]

Godfather undefeated 🫡🎺

[@miknes12345]

I met my wife when she was 35. We got engaged when she was 36. Got married and had our first child when she was 37. Got our second child when she was 40. Neither of us were ready for marriage and children before that. All good!

[@keanumoore]

That's exactly the timeline he described at 6:04

[@miknes12345]

@@keanumoore Indeed - and my point is, you can be a late bloomer and everything will still work out ok. However, the point about declining fertility is spot on. I feel very blessed that it was possible to conceive without major problems the second time as well.

[@BirdManUnlimitedLove]

I feel bad for your grandchildren because if they keep up your trend they will never meet you.

[@miknes12345]

@@BirdManUnlimitedLove Better grandchildren descend from people who have loving and stable relationships, rather than descending from some immature person who had a child way too young. This is much more important to me than whether I get to see a grand child or not.

[@voyagemusicstudio2758]

A video on Men’s timelines? It would be awesome to understand our timelines in relation to women’s. Any video on that? Awesome content

[@James-pl5uc]

As someone going through the IVF process, I don’t think most people realize how difficult, expensive and emotional exhausting IVF is. If you are dating a woman who has already freezed her eggs, you won’t have to pay for for the egg retrieval. However, eggs are less likely to survive the thaw than embryos and the eggs may not combine well with the sperm (depends on the couple), which results in few, maybe no, embryos. It costs about $2,000 to $3,000 per embryo transfer, with no guarantee that it will lead to a successful pregnancy and childbirth. Keep in mind, those progesterone shots and taking clomid cause mood swings. And she will need your help to drive to appointments and give her progesterone shots. If you run out of embryos without having the number of children you want, you have to start the IVF process again and the egg retrieval is $15,000 to 30,000 (depending on the clinic). Then, you may have to test the embryos if the woman is older, which can run thousands of dollars depending on the clinic and number of embryos. Not to mention you have to deal with her heartbreak and tears if she can’t get pregnant. After all, if she’s in her 30s, tons of her female friends, acquaintances and random celebrities are getting pregnant while she can’t. You’ll will hear about and deal with this every day. Heaven forbid if she has some anatomical issue that’s preventing her from getting pregnant, then you have to pay for whatever surgery she needs. If the surgery doesn’t work, then you need to pay for a surrogate or adopt ( both of these options are at least $100,000) or accept not having more kids. If you need a surrogate, you have to deal with jealousy that you are basically having a baby with another woman. If she has an egg quality issue, then you will need an egg donor and she may have emotional difficulty with the fact that any kids you have won’t be biologically hers. None of these prices above include hotel, travel expenses, food and time off of work. If the process goes smoothly and you don’t want many kids, it’ll be 10,000 to 20,000. If you are unlucky, 100,000 or more and it’ll take years. Because of the high costs, you can have a well paying job and still feel broke. It also should be mentioned that you don’t know if there will be fertility issues; most couples don’t know until they try to have kids. Given this, it’s a good idea to have kids young if you can. If you are in the unfortunate situation of having to do IVF, book a flight to Czechia, Spain or Greece and work with a clinic there.

[@TV-oc4ml]

😂 ‘you won’t have to pay for IVF’ yeah I won’t

[@LisaCulton]

Her eggs are probably fine, but how are your sperm? non-existent? non-motile? abnormally formed?

[@georgedang449]

Indeed. How would you like to spend your $100,000? My wife is a first generation Chinese immigrant and a virgin when we married. She cooks, cleans, and happily gave up her career to become a full time mother when our son came. Now that he's 4 years old and entering pre-k, she's starting her own business with my help. I put well over $100k into said business so far, and months in, it's very revenue positive despite being out of season (it's a ski shop, already making a profit in September). Choice 1: Spend your youth sleep around, working as a wage slave. When you're old, choose a husband from diminishing options, spend $100k to have a child, deal with teenage drama in your '60s, stay a wage slave your whole life. Choice 2: Marry young and virgin, resulting in the highest value husband you can obtain (I'm 6', fit, maintained 4.0 gpa, and made low 6 figures straight out of college), choose to stop being a wage slave and get pregnant while young, after your child enters school and you have free time, start your own business financed by said husband, be your own boss, hire older women who opted for Choice 1 as your very own wage slaves.

[@jasperzanjani]

if you have money for your wife's IVF why not just get a younger wife?

[@annaweder841]

​@@jasperzanjani because when you fall in love with a 40year old girl you don't care about others, whether they are 20 or 16

[@stefanmolejo4578]

In addition to the display of your wisdom.... them *blue eyes* are hitting hard, shout out to you!

[@mathias1dk]

Sometimes I like being a man. I truly "have plenty of time". And since I am taking good long term decisions, my value will go up for many years to come. I can't even get mad anymore that I kind of lack authority and status now in my mid-20's. I know instinctually that I will be able to offer much much more than the average individual in 10-20 years time.

[@tommyboy7427]

True. But keep in mind that at age 40, your health, strength, and fertility start to decline much more quickly. Ask me how I know (I'm 40M). Before a year or two ago, I could hardly tell the difference in health between 25 and 30 and 35. There are only very slight and barely noticeable changes between those ages. I would propose that age 40 for a man is like 30 for a woman. If you want to have a family, you need to make it a priority to try to make it happen soon.

[@jayc342009]

I like being a man, i dislike how society treats men like garbage.

[@gregdroid1969]

I would add to those wise words, raising kids takes a ton of energy. I had baby #1 at age 38. My second at age 40. Chasing them around, taking them to sports, etc., it just takes more out of you in your 40s. So unless you can afford nannies and house keepers, I would say don't wait too long to start.

[@LisaCulton]

You still will make sperm, but the quality declines drastically. Men aren't told this for some reason.

[@mathias1dk]

@@LisaCulton Hugh Hefner became a dad when he was 65. Also it is easy to freeze down sperm.

[@_herzog_]

Can be anything but can't be everything. That's the line. Nice one

[@pinchurelo]

Hi! Usualy I don't comment anything in the web, ever, but this time I decided to make an exeption. My experience has been diferent me and my wife had our first kid when she was 40 years old, and the second one when she was 42, both of our children are healthy and normal kids, si far, I think we were extremely lucky, I think we are an exeption. When we got married I think we were not going to have kids because our age but fortunately I was wrong. My advise for you is to have children sooner, If you wait, is harde to tale care of them. I agree with what you day in your video.

[@LisaCulton]

You're not an exception, but many people will tell you that you are.

[@asimbaig3669]

Thanks!

[@psychacks]

Thanks, man!

[@richardarmstrong6743]

dude is trying to speak logically to modern women LOL

[@cosmo588]

Modern woman here🙋🏽‍♀️ generalising seems a bit lazy.

[@fhdb478]

My wife always knew that. We had our first child at 27 and couldn't have another one afterwards, despite trying it all directly before turning 30. The pain of going through IVF several times, spending our limited money as young professionals and then not succeeding... It was hard. Even now, 8 years later, it is a burden on us and our marriage and we have to constantly work through it. Now imagine you have to add the guilt of being responsible for all of this pain because you thought you had all of the time in the world. Must be soul crushing.

[@samiamgreeneggsandham7587]

I live in a first world, East Asian city where shopping malls are still a healthy business. Walk into any of them to understand why women are constantly bombarded with biologically ignorant, pro-go-with-your-career messaging: 90% of the shops are geared purely toward women. The remaining 10% sell gender-mixed or neutral products. None target purely men. It’s all about creating extra income in the economy, and then siphoning it off. There are plenty of women who don’t blow their income in such places; but lots of them are instead spending it on yoga studios, iHerb, adventurous holidays, and low-return postgrad study. I work with many women who are highly statistically literate, and who rightly scoff at any anecdote-based arguments in our field. But when it comes to their own reproduction prospects, they are suddenly big believers in exceptions, and in their prospects of being a 2-SD outlier.

[@chipsteve]

Compelling perspective, thanks. I've never been to Japan/Korea/Singapore so that's interesting to hear. It's definitely about consumerism & corporate greed on some level. One of my first thoughts after Jimmy Buffett passed away was - did he regret all the corporate - building activities he spent so much time & effort on in the 1990s & 2000s? I'm sure it was meaningful to write music, perform it at concerts, live his beachbum lifestyle with family & friends....but all the time he spent purely focused on making like a billion dollars with chain restaurants in casinos etc - really? Was that worth it, the time he had here on earth?

[@alberttang6955]

​@chipsteve The whole "Margaritaville" branding of bars, resorts, cruises, frozen food, etc got really cheesy. I loved his music, read his book, enjoyed a few of his concerts live, but I couldn't stomach any of those Margaritaville products. Maybe he was building generational wealth for his kids. I remember hearing actor Michael Caine being interviewed, and he was asked why he took a role on a certain movie that he knew had a terrible script and was not his best work. He replied that the movie was indeed terrible, but the house for his mom that the movie paid for - that was a thing of beauty.

[@alejmc]

Thank you for arriving on this space with a different tone, it gives at least a different language style for others to listen and to see if people will actually listen… My hopes are low judging by some of the reactions during your visit to the FnF quarters, one of the best streams ever in my opinion, yet it was all about demonizing and criticizing, threatening and complaining without even listening to a single second of it. Anyways, thanks Doc, it’s one of the most concise time wise too which makes it all the more palatable. Passing it on forward.

[@AV-xv3ln]

Big thank you for you videos. Hands down one of the best psychology videos on YT. Regarding this particular topic, I think we men trying to appeal women with logic, which does not all the time gets along with the way they think. It's logical to us woman's SMV drops after age 30, but it doesn't look like they are capable of understanding.

[@goldeneggduck]

I like the "don't shoot the messenger" bit!

[@jasongravely7217]

I cannot get enough of these videos. Keep em coming!

[@GandalftheWise]

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[@grinningchicken]

Feminism convinced women they were on the same timeline as men. If you wanted a sports metaphor men are coaches women are players. A player who is good enough can sign right out of HS but is pretty much done at 35 years old But a coach has to work his way through the ranks and his first big contract might be at 35 years old

[@Yung_Wicklove]

Awesome video! I wish I could go to sleep for 10 years and then wake up to see what this topic will be like in the future.

[@tahirah6]

I just want to say I love what you do .

[@stephanie7572]

When I was in my early 50s and going through menopause a female ob/gyn asked what kind of birth control I was using. Shocked, I said none, I'm over 50. She said, pregnancy can still happen, not likely but it does happen. I'm not sure what she was smoking.

[@rapamune]

She was on the premium copium

[@rapamune]

@@LisaCulton Sure. Everyone can win the lottery by praying to RNGsus, but only a select few ever get a response. Also, have fun explaining to a child why it had to suffer accumulated genetic mutations.

[@bfbrmm]

It's rare, but it does happen. Better safe than, uh, honey? Uh, don't freak out...

[@rapamune]

@@LisaCulton Was about to state the same

[@dwwolf4636]

Actually happened to the wife ( 53 yr old ) of my wife's boss. The boss died 8 yrs later of cancer.

[@cxa011500]

It's sad that society has lied to generations of women to think they have unlimited time.

[@bsd1158]

I'm 32 and my pregnant girlfriend is 20. It's interesting to hear older childless people criticizing us for "being early". We both want a big family and have the resources to take care of them anyway. Why should we wait lol

[@jgw9990]

Good for you both. How did you meet her out of interest?

[@JocobsComments]

Excellent

[@maxk880]

If you're 32 she was 14 when you were 26. You'll have nothing in common to talk about and your marriage will suck

[@danbaltic9678]

​@@maxk880cry me a river. Men find younger ones way more interesting lively and exciting than the ones with the baggage of failed relationships.

[@HansBezemer]

I settled when I was 42, so I dated my share of 30+ women in my time. I must tell you: nothing is so off putting as dating a woman with rattling ovaries. They want to rush everything to land on the spot where they actually wanna be: pregnancy. Thanks, but no thanks.

[@HansBezemer]

@@mesalouis8976 I agree. That's why I always was in great shape. People always took me for 10 years younger. Moved in with a Parisienne ten years my junior. I was never interested what people thought of me. The only useful metric in the world is what you can actually do with what you got upstairs. Not caring makes you free - and invulnerable to personal attacks of insignificant, uninteresting, small minded and all in all pityful people.

[@jayrollo1352]

@@mesalouis8976 So true. But luckily sperm count can be dealt with and falls at a much lower rate.

[@georgeelder8415]

Her lack of planning/lack of sense is not your problem, nor your responsibility....

[@yukisnoww]

oh, this is the 'we just met but, sit down and go through my 5-year plan on having a kid RIGHT NOW' thing. Hell no.

[@lapiedra7121]

With all due respect, I also got news for you. I hate to break it down to you but here it goes: All men’s sperm also deteriorates with age. The older a man gets the worse quality of sperm he produces and his chances of producing healthy offspring decreases just as fast as a woman’s eggs as she ages. I’m talking from experience here. I married at age 20. Got pregnant when I had just turned 21 and gave birth to our first child before turning 22. My husband was nearly 40 when I became pregnant with this baby. Our baby was born with a genetic defect due to the poor quality of his sperm given his age at the time. A year after giving birth to our first baby, I became pregnant with our second child who was also born with a genetic defect. At that point we had to be tested and it turns out…it was all because of the poor quality of his aged defective sperm. All confirmed by not one, but 3 doctors. I’m now trapped in the sad reality of caring for my two disabled children, never being able to see them flourish and thrive, never being able to seeing them off to college, nor to see them getting married and having their own families too, and this will be the case for the rest of my life. My life as I had hoped is ruined forever and so it’s my children’s lives as they now have to live that reality all because I decided to marry an older man. Had I known this, I would not want a 37+ year old man’s sperm anywhere near me. I now find the idea of older people procreating disturbing and repulsive just because of the high risk of birth defects and other health issues which is cruel to the babies that come from it. A man’s peak for healthy reproduction/fertility is also in his 20 and early 30s and after that it declines exponentially. If women should not reproduce in their late 30s and 40s, neither should men.

[@juandrevandermerwe388]

I agree with most of what he says, except being a high value male when you meet a girl in her 20's and you are in your mid 30's you basically find nothing in common with her because of social media trends etc etc. Sex might be great but everything else won't fit together. Imagine sitting on the couch with your much younger gf and she is doing tiktok trends and dances and the only thing you can talk about is sex and what to get for dinner.

[@enigmacanine]

Having meaningful conversations is less important than having children

[@alexmuenster2102]

>>much younger gf and she is doing tiktok trends and dances

[@TheUnique69able]

@@Growwwithmieand men aren’t wallets or your psychiatrists. It baffles me how entitled and stupid women are.

[@tann_man]

Don't marry a woman who doesn't share your values. If she's on tiktok her brain is too far rotted. That should be an immediate disqualification

[@MrTraczu]

Older ones are same plus are older. Maturity doesn't come with age only - mindset makes the difference.

[@joekarnitis3962]

Orion is absolutely amazing! So articulate and well reasoned. Also with great humor -- Irish Twins, LOL :) Hilarious.

[@ainke]

Even if you show the REALITY in their faces they will still think they are an exception. Is too far gone.

[@mesalouis8976]

I know, right? Men are so stubborn.

[@GreatRetro]

Well, those women who think that will die out!!! Those who understand - will continue their lineage! ^_^

[@mesalouis8976]

@@GreatRetro Nope, women will never go back to being men’s properties. I think you’re forgetting that women were just allowed to own their own credit card/bank account in 1974. Literally, barely 50 years ago a woman needed her husband permission to have have a bank account. Your lineage will die out !

[@vsstdtbs3705]

Women dominate voting and laws are bias in their favor, such as custody, support, alimony and employment. A women in their 30's will find a way to get a mans money through the legal system anyway.

[@LittleMew133]

My motto is more like "time is not the master of me", which completely negates the amount of time I have. Can't lose if you don't even play the game.

[@jayrollo1352]

Wow this was tough to swallow. And I'm a guy. Makes me want to work harder to get myself to a level where I can find a quality woman who isn't suffering from these issues.

[@bramposthumus9300]

Your focus is who YOU want to be. Not who you want to attract. So work hard, focus on you and what you want to achieve. Women are nice to have around but ultimately surplus to requirement in a man's life.

[@jeffreycfmok]

Any woman who has a drop of beauty will play the field. Even women right at the cusp of 30. They will cling onto their beauty like they earned it, and share it with guys who don't deserve it. But I wish you luck though

[@jayrollo1352]

Agreed. Gotta be careful. I just want to maximize my options. @@jeffreycfmok

[@gtanists6350]

Man you be breaking it down perfectly thanks 🙏🏾 for making me sound smart out here in these streets🙌🏾

[@teok8855]

Dr. Orion I am very curious to hear what you have to say od Sadia Khans take on this, which is the opposite that the game doesn’t change at all its just the age group thats interested in the woman shifts and of course the number of quality partners that are able to maintain a long term relationship is decreasing bc you guessed it, those who have the necessary skills and can communicate usually end up married by 30. Edit: I also think that younger women at 25 aren’t interested in the 35 year old man, they are more interested in 0-5 years older men, you can note by the average age gap in marriages.

[@oops-iam708]

It took me being 27 to date older because I thought it was gross and predatory. I would not date outside 4 years. Sounds petty retrospectively because it depends on the person, I know now.

[@teok8855]

@@beowulf_of_wall_st absolutely

[@rf-uj5sc]

The biological clock waits for no woman. But if you're talking about dating and companionship, yest, the game never changes for us women. We are not forever attracted to men at a specific point in time unlike mens attraction to women. Our attraction to men scales with our age. Some 50 year old dude finds a 35 year old woman "young". Some 70 year old dude finds a 50 year old woman "young". And by 60 - almost all of us have hit menopause. We also have a lower desire for male companionship as we age, unlike men who only need women in their lives more as their health declines.

[@danbaltic9678]

It depends on a man. I am 31, but due to healthy lifestyle people say I look 22-24. My last gf was 19.

[@willybobo8846]

well done sir... love the modern take on psych... and actually being truthful... so much crap out there...

[@thenutrientwhisperer3700]

Had baby number four at 40. No complications got pregnant when the husband breathed on me. First baby at 34 Marriage at 30 Dated six years starting at 24 Your timetables pretty accurate

[@WtfReal]

Correct me if I’m wrong but at age 35 isn’t that when it’s high risk pregnancy

[@Afrologist]

@@WtfReal Yes, geriatric pregnancy. You're also more likely to have complications if it's your first baby.

[@lorrilewis2178]

@@WtfReal No, fertility begins a sharper drop off after 36.

[@ainsleycrawford4221]

There's evidence that prior pregnancies increase fertility: 20% of women who resorted to IVF for their first child conceived naturally for their second. This may be because pregnancy reverses endometriosis or perhaps they are simply less stressed once they have one child. So, it is expected that a 40yo mother is more fertile than a childless 40yo.

[@eatshityoutube3271]

@@lorrilewis2178 its already declining prior to that

[@logan4179]

Another angle to this: It's actually kind of insulting to a man if he's getting the sense that you're showing him interest now that you're in your 30s, but wouldn't have shown him interest in your most attractive years, especially considering the stereotype of the dual mating strategy that women employ.

[@justinguerrera8322]

Love the math on that. Trued to explain that to woman so many times. They just dont get it or maybe want to admit it.

[@charthers8903]

Usually the more arrogant women will stay childless.. It’s kinda sad to watch but they’re so annoying it’s hard to feel empathy

[@yoshi314]

makes sense - you don't want that kind of mother for your children.

[@khalidalmatar]

Doctor your a redpill legend & speak the flat truth. May God make more like you & I love your work + share it on my channels & books/ students & posts! 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@shaylagoogle3097]

I feel sorry for woman this day and age because there's alot of players these days. Not alot of commitment minded ppl. So I don't blame some woman to wait. I'd wait if I wanted a child because I rather be in a committed relationship verses being a single mother. Time flys ladies, you don't have all the time in the world like you think. I'm glad I'm over this stage. Good luck ladies in, love, in life and in dating 😘

[@tigerbear3038]

A lot of men turn into players are getting their hearts broken by women and they find it hard to trust them again

[@danbaltic9678]

The problem with most women is that they are not being rational. Average or below women wanting top10% guys.

[@Kiraisking]

Dr. Orion Taraban, I kid you not, You do god’s work over here 🙌 I definitely need to share this with women in my life… Thank you!

[@michaelbouwkamp6200]

I dated a 36 y.o. woman and broke up shortly after finding out she wanted to have more kids. It's just not ethical to burn up her time when she needs to be fast tracking re-production. And there's no way I'm jumping into fast tracked re-production without the opportunity to vet her, let some other schmuck attempt that.

[@carlosferreira5709]

Very clarifying. Thank you.

[@superbirden57]

Then there is the "weeding out" factors by men : Physical health. Smoking. Excessive drinking. Legal and illegal drug use. Too many tattoos. Too many piercings. I'm sure I missed a few.

[@GreatRetro]

I use tattoos(any tattoos that women might have, big or small, many or just one) to understand for my self which women NOT to date ever!!!

[@codniggh1139]

I rememebr to be very liberla about that, then I grow up an as psychologist, I had to accept that tatoos are a really bad sign.

[@jwill9877]

One of the biggest overlooked signs is she is quick to pull back if something happens when in the talking phase of the relationship. It can even be for a small reason. That right there tells you she has a roster. She more than likely gets around. She's trying to punish the man by pulling back. She's also talking/sleeping with someone else in the meantime.

[@donkeysaurusrex7881]

This is not spoken of enough. Men generally have to date across and down. Middle, working, and lower class American women have turned into utter trash. Her body count, divorce, or children fathered by scumbags whose genetics will predispose them to themselves being trash are far from the only problems she brings to the table.

[@khaledalhasan209]

Can you please do a topic of what the things considered cheating in a relationship, not only sex affairs, but anything that considers to be cheating. Thanks you in advance.

[@quincy189]

yeah girls consider you watching porn or like texting a female friend cheating lol

[@mikey92362]

If it involves another person and you feel like you have to hide it from your partner, then it's cheating.

[@mikey92362]

​@@quincy189if you are willing to let her see the text messages, all of them, then it's not cheating. What I can't understand is why you'd want a female as a friend. There's literally zero benefit for a man to have a female friend. You're being used.

[@DNA350ppm]

Don't do anything if you wouldn't like it, if your spouse (partner) would do it. Normal decency.

[@quincy189]

@@DNA350ppm not just as a guy but things that girls do that are also considered cheating like does dressing up seeking attention before grocery shopping count

[@RupertMcGruber]

Facts! Thank you, doctor.

[@nihedks1070]

Your video makes sense, but I also don’t understand how some men think they have all the time in the world. Yes they may still be fertile till much later in life, but that does not mean that it’s a good idea to have kids at 45 or older. Most people won’t have the emotional and physical energy to rise kids at that age. I have always felt blessed to have young parents which I hopefully will still be around for much more years to come and I would want the same for my kids.

[@LisaCulton]

They believe that they are fertile because they continually produce semen, but many of them are infertile due to low sperm count and poor sperm quality.

[@leedlbagginshield8492]

I agree. My dad had me at 23 and he had my half sister at 45. My sister has a lot of energy and she’s high maintenance in terms of attention. My dad told me that he was too old when she was born. Obviously he loves her to death and she also brings him endless of joy, but he realised that fatherhood costs him a lot more energy than in his 20s

[@A78cts23]

I kept thinking that having kids was something for when I'm older and grown up, got divorced at 29, no kids, I was face to face with reality that my time was limited, if a family was what I truly wanted, the science is clear it's not comfortable but it's clear