I Heard All You Need Is 6 Cores For PC Gaming!

[@itstheweirdguy]

6 cores is enough for gaming. Until it isn't.

[@jmadmachine9819]

So gaming doesn't exist in 2015?

[@itstheweirdguy]

@@jmadmachine9819 Gaming was enough in 2015, until it wasn't.

[@Heliocentric]

@@itstheweirdguy you are a poet.

[@abxygaming9460]

More then 6 is better of course does not mean you need more

[@abxygaming9460]

4 core can play all games go look at the system requirements

[@FiLtheThriL]

I love when Tech argues with himself and gets irritated about it. Genuinely

[@ByteSizeTech]

Ha! :)

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@ByteSizeTech 😁love it too, did got from a 7820X /64gb/3070 to a 10940X/256gig/3070/1080ti for davinci resolve the 7820x did a okay job of MW3 in 1080p/high at 160 frickin FPs and was smooth but it hiTched a few times alltho mildly, the 10940x does 250 now with no hitching at all and has lots or resurces left for all ot my multitask crap, sooo yeah :DD 😘 love yo chanel bro

[@bowser0897]

I saw the title and knew this was going to be a good one. 😂 Love the channel guys!

[@2lazy2think91]

People justified their purchases just to make themselves feel good. Most of the time, it is not a good purchase, but since claiming it will make them look dumb most people tend to deny it. Psychological things perhaps.

[@pocpc1788]

Totally agreed, I never justify my purchases, I bought a scalper's 3080Ti, it's not worth the overpriced, but I can't wait anymore 😂.

[@manuelmunguia616]

yep, like buying a 3070 expecting to play games at ultra settings on 1440p, sur for 99% of the games out there is an easy 1440p 60 fps experience, but the vram limits the texture settings and resolution settings

[@jedpratte]

Last night I was on world of warships, discord, watching twitch and KZbin all at same time. Glad I have my 10850k

[@jonanamar9931]

I have been in IT for 30 years and these two are absolutely correct 👍

[@hektischulze3994]

Hi, I began watching your videos two days ago. I want to upgrade my PC but not just for gaming. There are TONS of youtube videos that focus just in FPS and benchmarks....but you are right! Not all is about FPS and that stuff, user experience and more variables are as important as those ones managed in all videos I've watched. I was thinking about upgrading to 32GB RAM and a Ryzen 9, now I have a better idea of what I want. Thanks for your point of view. You have a new watcher!!!!

[@kadj79]

Changed my 5800x to an 5900x, and indeed fps average has not changed...BUT overall system responsiveness and frametime are a lot better/smoother with my RTX3090. Handbrake is a lot faster now as well thanks to the extra threads.

[@pageup213]

Wish I had have gone with the 5900x when it launched, was a little more expensive but (and I'm not too ashamed to admit) I really just didn't understand the L3 cache involvement in gaming performance (don't get me wrong, I still love the 5800x, great CPU). Having double the L3 cache and extra cores/threads has real world benefits, and like you stated it's not just about fps but those extra cores and cache help smooth everything out and provide a very responsive experience at the higher end as we push a games capabilities. One of the Zen3D chips is surely in my future - the more you know!

[@theboy2777]

Hm i have a 5800x as well and my motherboard maxes out at a 5900x so i was thinking might as well get it. i prefer smoothness and less stutters as well. the 5800x is a beast but if i can get even smoother ill pay the money screw it

[@stepbruv8780]

I Heard All You Need Is 6 Cores For PC GaMING INTEL FROM 2008-2017 BELIKE: All You Need Is 4 Cores For PC Gaming!

[@PesareShojae]

8 is the perfect number so i wouldn't break the like number.

[@stepbruv8780]

@@PesareShojae so did 4 core is the perfect number just like intel from 2008 to 2017 that give only 4 core unless you are buying outraging absurdly expensive 6 and 8 core HEDT

[@PesareShojae]

@@stepbruv8780 I was talking about the number of likes on your comment and you went there and ruined the whole vibe! 😒

[@gabrielpinheirodecarvalho8023]

I experienced that first hand. I had a 5600x and I thought I was fine for 4k gaming, but I listened to Tech's advice and upgraded to a Ryzen 9 5900x and my frametimes are a lot smoother now and I no longer get stutters where I used to get with the 5600x. I would never guess that my CPU was holding me back.

[@wizzgamer]

You just wasted your money 6 cores is still all you need for gaming Hardware unbowed shows it.

[@vincentma1618]

Lol someone with real world experience vs someone who watched a YT video

[@wizzgamer]

@Vincent Ma And does that KZbinr not have real world experience.

[@Iridiumcosmos]

I actually agree with you OP. No one talks about the improved overall performance going from a hexa to a dodeca core processor. I had a 5600. Upgraded to a 5900X and it significantly improved my 1% lows thanks to the monstrous cache and clock speeds. I passed down the 5600 to my little brother who plays lighter games.

[@theboy2777]

@@wizzgamer you literally did not watch this video or comprehend anything that was said, the difference in fps wont be huge but its the difference in smoothness, with more cores , threads and cache you see less stutters

[@FreeloaderUK]

Tech why not do a blind test? Compare a Ryxen 5 vs Ryzen 9 or i5 vs if etc. Play a few games and get someone to try and guess which is the 6 core and which is the 8 core? If people can tell which is which then that's evidence there's a meaningful difference right there

[@joshuakhan8099]

YES!

[@CarlosCamposvc92]

He knows average people won't notice a difference that's why he wouldn't make that kind of content.

[@ByteSizeTech]

I don't know any average people :)

[@CarlosCamposvc92]

@@ByteSizeTech average user, whatever you got me.

[@FreeloaderUK]

@@ByteSizeTech we don't need average people, get some tech enthusiasts. Linus tech tips did it when comparing SSDs, I've also seen tech channels compare 144hz monitors vs 60hz the same way. It would be a cool video

[@gameison4813]

i went from ryzen 3 3100 to ryzen 7 5800x and i also did 16gb to 32gb upgrade. Man, maybe i use my pc wrong but i didn't noticed nothing special about it. Just more frames per second from faster cpu and gpu. I was on rx 570 with ryzen 3 and now im on 3070 with ryzen 7

[@tatt2jon]

I have to agree Tech, I worry more about buttery smooth gameplay than what score I can get on a synthetic benchmark. Another great video!

[@Syntheticks]

I just like with my R9 I don't ever worry about slow down while gaming/recording/multitasking. My old i7 with 4 cores would just be overwhelmed trying to keep up with production software.

[@_TeaMaster]

Ryzen 9 vs Ryzen 7 difference is even more noticeable if you are gaming on Linux and CPU sometimes have to do more additional operations on the fly. Average FPS doesn't change all that much, but the difference in 1% is sometimes staggering.

[@StgVirus1]

Going from an old i5 (I forget which gen) 4 cores to upgrading to a new PC earlier this year with a i9 10900K was an insane upgrade for me. Paired with a RTX 3080 and I've never experienced anything smoother and better. I'm able to do all the task that I want without having to close programs down.

[@jackwilliford798]

I upgraded from a 3900x ($410 ) to a 5900x ($480) and notice a nice bump in performance. Actually sold 3900x for more than i paid for it. So the upgrade cost me about $50.

[@C0d0ps]

That's amazing jack nice work. I went from 7700k 4 cores to 5900z 12 cores. It was lovely

[@Jarmanreich]

Your experience is often underappreciated. I switched from R5 3600 a year ago to R9 5900X. I don't play any Cyberpunk or anything similar, sometimes Call of Duty Warzone, mostly CS:GO. Yeah my system is overkill but it is so much more enjoyable. I dont't have any random stutters on lags anymore. I got used to the good stuff really fast and don't ever want to go back. Cheers!

[@Edward-ih3lq]

Good for you, I guess you have a stabe job and lots of money 😊

[@Jarmanreich]

@@Edward-ih3lq The price difference between R5 3600/5600X and R9 5900X was like 200 USD back in 2020. That was about a third of a monthly minimum wage after taxes in Czechia back then. So you guessed wrong. The difference is not that significant and usually pays off in the long run. Of course there are a lot of people who can't afford those 200 USD more to spend on a PC. Those have to make do with what they can buy...

[@tyonorshapzc7tjfvb7-caz]

@@Jarmanreich 😘

[@Jarmanreich]

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[@dontsupportrats4089]

I adore my 5900x. It is sooooo much smoother with the same gpu than the 10600k I did have, it stuttered horribly in multiplayer games even with settings down. I did not really gain FPS but its 100% improvement in enjoyment

[@franzescodimitra8815]

5900x is a real *Stonks* CPU

[@AG-te9xp]

@@franzescodimitra8815 12700K and 12900K are better tho.

[@ThejusRao]

@@AG-te9xp Also depends on your cooling solution. If you want to air cool it, use DDR4 and Windows 10 then it's about neck and neck. Not to mention the insane power consumption.

[@jedpratte]

To me if someone has a 5900x or 10850k they should skip the 12th gen Intel. I have a 10850k btw.

[@silentsnake820]

how the hell did your 10600k stutter? im on an older cpu and games run okay-ish. im get ok-ish fps but nothing really stutters. sorry but i think you are saying it either because you are on high resolution or you are just a top of the line premium guy who thinks some small ingame issues are major "stutters"

[@markvd1008]

If you pair a 5800x with a 3060 Ti or 3070, sure, it would make better sense and be more balanced for the use case in that regard. Mostly 1080p, or sometimes 1440p standard.

[@daniil3815]

I just built a PC. with 5800x and 3060TI. 5800x at my local store was only 20$ more than 5600x at black friday, so I went with a 8core cpu. Everything smooth so far

[@rhotchkiss123]

Great Video , literally just convinced me to subscribe to your channel , so much sense in what your saying very refreshing to hear your comments on benchmarking vs user experience.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Awesome, thank you!

[@akawiangel]

I love my 5600x and I don’t think I even need an upgrade. Then again I came from an hp laptop that had an i5 8250u that ran at 1.6 GHz.

[@ByteSizeTech]

It's all relative! :)

[@blessedred]

6 cores IS all you need for gaming. Don't you see how the 12600k performs on Windows 11? Only 6 cores are going towards the game and it performs better than a 5950x. 🌚

[@onomatopoeia162003]

if people think all you need is 6 cores. Then people should be getting a console. Edit: the refreshed 5950x I heard has 3d cache. And is only 15% better. But they are in the mode of making them right now.

[@Apathy474]

6 core cpus are not going anywhere any time soon. The core count is irrelevant which is why a 7600 will get better performance than a 3700x, 3900x, 5950x etc. The architecture is superior and it actually has better multicore performance than a 5800x despite having 2 less cores. Plenty of people still have 4 CORE cpus bevause they have i3's

[@ancalagon1919]

technically, you can. Let's look at the steam database, almost 70% of users have 6 cores or less. Can you play with 6 or less? Yes. Do you need more than 6 cores to play? No. In addition, in the top 10 most played steam games we have Counter Strike, Dota2, Football manager 2022, mir4, Apex and so on. For these games, you can play with 4 cores. If you have a 12900k, will the whole system work better? Well... how obvious can the answer be? You make an effort to validate this, but hardly anyone says otherwise (except for those two comments you've read).

[@batvenio3533]

I had my 5700xt with ryzen 5 2600 and I updated on your recommendation on ryzen 9 3900x and can say is so much better and nicer. Thanks for the tip 👍😊

[@ByteSizeTech]

Awesome, thanks for the feedback!

[@908967]

Now if your playing games that only make use of a few cores or use less than 16 threads to any real degree you may not see noticeable difference between a 5800x vs 5900x. However if you like to run alot of background apps, multiple tabs in a browser while playing, etc... Having the extra 4 cores and 8 threads allows your cpu to juggle tasks more efficiently, so when you do get a spike of high cpu usage you shouldn't see the affect vs using a cpu with less resources.

[@Syveran777]

I don't think most games even know how to use more than 6 cores, I mean, look at benchmarks comparing the 5600x and 5800x. Next to no difference, sometimes the 5600x even wins somehow. Now in every way but straight gaming, the more cores will make a difference. Multitasking, rendering, streaming, and doing anything but gaming...it will make a difference.

[@mrrod3004]

Start up start citizen, will sit at 100% cpu entire time. Gpu may hit 60%. Iv gained 10 to 15% performance fps boost ocing cpu for games.

[@Syveran777]

@@mrrod3004 Star Citizen relies on CPU speed, not cores. I would know, as I've played Star Citizen since 2016, and have played it on many...many different systems.

[@ItsJustVV]

It's not for every build combo and every budget, like you said. And another important factor is monitor resolution and Hz. I went from Ryzen 3600 to 5600x at 1080p 60-75Hz on an RX 6700 XT and it was a good upgrade both in 1% lows (smoothness) and averages. But for my monitor and GPU combo, I highly doubt I actually need more than a 5600x or that I would see any difference with 8 or 12 cores. I'm only gaming, I don't do other stuff. So it really depends on more than one thing if this statement "I Heard All You Need Is 6 Cores For PC Gaming!" is true or not.

[@kapoy4779]

So what cpu do I need in order to maximize the 6800xt that's on my computer? Regardless of my usage type, I'm just curious and coming from a not too techie person.

[@GuerreroDivino9891]

to play at 1440p and record with fraps at the same time triple AAA games 2021 and use Topaz Video Enhance AIya that convert videos to 4k and edit videos in adobe premier that computer you recommend me, do you think that with i5 12600k it works? thank you very much greetings from Peru

[@rpospeedwagon]

My cousin has a 7700k and 1080ti. He got 80 "stutters' on the official in-game benchmark of Forza Horizon 5. My 5900x recorded 2.

[@Superiorer]

@@Games_and_Tech Right... I still have to meet the youtuber that doesnt acknowledge the difference between a 5900x and the 7700k.

[@silentsnake820]

but how? im on a way older cpu and a 2070 but in forza i got like 100 fps

[@silentsnake820]

@@Games_and_Tech i have but im still wondering how you can only get 80 and have stutters...

[@rpospeedwagon]

@@silentsnake820 80 stutters, not fps. His fps is over 100. Stutters are counted on the official in-game benchmark.

[@olloi91]

@@rpospeedwagon okay my bad. But was it noticable? Did it lowet the experience? There are some missing infos. I am just wondering :)

[@pocpc1788]

I'm a light user/gamer, currently running a 9900K/3080Ti on 4K, it's still good, but I'm tempting to get a 16 cores CPU.

[@mrrod3004]

Have a i9 12900k sitting on my desk to busy to gett off and install :( coming from. I7 9700k

[@pocpc1788]

@@mrrod3004 I'm been tempting to get a 16 cores CPU, I'll wait for DDR5 to mature a bit then I'll upgrade.

[@mrrod3004]

@@pocpc1788 I bought a 690 board that supports ddr4. I agree ddr5 is not where it needs to be yet.

[@Gamevet]

I was watching a video where a guy was talking about stutter while playing Forza Horizon 5 with an RTX 2080 Super. He blamed it on the game engine. I told him that his CPU was running at 100% and that he might consider that his CPU was the real problem. He ended up deleting the video, after admitting that he was running an i5, but never specified which i5 he was using.

[@ShomyKajge]

Does this mean that MB of cache of Zen 2 CPU would be helpful in the same way, regardless the IPC of the CPU? For example the 3900x to pair with something like 3070/2080ti/6800 (6800xt)?

[@mbraxt11]

I have built and consistently used 2 pcs: my personal machine and my sisters pc. My personal machine initially had a 3700x with a 2070 super with 32 ram and my sisters has an i5 10400 with an rx 5500xt 4gb and 16 gb ram. If your goal is to play old games or non triple aaa ones, my sisters pc will do you just fine. However, if you plan to multitasking, have multiple monitors, stream on twitch for 2 hoursor more, and play triple a games, you need to follow techs advice about tech. 8 cores is the minimum for you to have an enjoyable experience doing the latter. I've tried doing all that with my sisters pc and let me tell you , my biggest goal for right now is to upgrade her rig to a 10900 with 32 gb of ram and an rx 6600xt( she playd roblox and fortnite, but based on the future landscape of gaming as a whole, ik for a fact she'll want to play games that will make her current setup cry hard). All in all, there are no bad pc builds, but there are bad use cases for certain builds, especially if you pair a 6 core cpu with no integrated graphics with an rx 6900xt on a 750 watt power supply.

[@mrrod3004]

Thew ne 12th gen intel has performance and effiencey cores just for multitasking.

[@roryodonnell]

...definitely not getting the full picture when stuttering is gone after upgrading from 9900k to 5900x. If it wasn't a fresh install of Windows, and not the introduction of a better ssd nor ram, then most likely bios settings like xmp. Or that they lied

[@felixamankwah1983]

i have a 8 core, i5-8th gen CPU, this does the job for me, for now.. plays all released games, 4k medium or 1080p medium to high on high demand games...

[@GroudFrank]

I hope you guys keep pushing this topic. It's helping to balance out some of the awful advice some other tech YT channels are giving.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thank you :)

[@LuciferXV]

I built my pc before finding tech and I wish I had new about them before. I was one of those people that thought benchmarks mattered and had bought a 9700k over a 9900k thinking it would be dumb not to save that money but then a few months afterward I had upgraded my gtx 1070 to a gtx 1080ti and now the 9700k isn't good to me anymore. Any cpu can be good enough but the question is will it be for you. Can it get you the framerate you're looking to achieve? Is it smooth with no stuttering? Can you run all the programs you need at the same time. Does it wait on you or do you wait on it? Find the cpu that fills your needs and you'll be happy with it. And in the end it never hurts to get something better than you think you need if you can afford it. Especially if you are new to pc gaming. You might go from a single monitor rocket leage type to a triple monitor cyberpunk type of person. And also don't think you know more than the reviewers. They get to spend everyday exploring the ins and outs of every piece of tech they review. You also will find information from tech that others don't mention on other channels. If you actually listen to what tech has to say I guarantee you'll be happy with the pc you decide to build.

[@GainzB4Gamez]

Been watching ton of your videos and gained so much wisdom and knowledge! This post was right on time @ByteSizetech! I am FINALLY upgrading from my first ever 2011 build.. CPU:AMD FX (tm) -8350 Eight core processor 4.00 GHz RAM:16GB RAM crucial ballistic sport 1600mhz Motherboard: ASUS M5A97 R2.0 GPU: RX 580 XFX OC Black 8gb edition NEW BUILD CPU: $340 AMD Ryzen 7 5800X RAM: $80 32gb 3200mhz cl16 sticks of G.skill MBD: $175 ASUS TUF Gaming X570-PRO (WiFi 6) Cooler $89 be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4, BK022 GPU: $300 gigabyte 5600 XT 6gb SSD: $50 WD_BLACK 500gb SN750 SE NVMe

[@ByteSizeTech]

Wow, that's a massive upgrade, congrats!

[@GainzB4Gamez]

@@ByteSizeTech thank you. What’s your honest opinion on the GPU price for $300. I had a xfx rx580 8gb before. Did I overpay for the 5600xt???

[@Rayer24]

Everytime I read "all you need is 6 cores and 16gb of ram for gaming" I do what Tech did at 0:00. Especially when they're paired with like an rtx 3080 lol

[@andremostert8630]

Well I'm running a 5600X with a 3080 EVGA FTW. I have had no issues at all. None of the nonsense listed in the video

[@Rayer24]

@@andremostert8630 You would benefit from more cpu

[@epicskylegend7501]

@@andremostert8630 I'm sure it's pefectly fine, however it's also hard to know what you *could* be missing out on without having used in this case a better CPU yourself. Also, game selection is important. What games do you play?

[@andremostert8630]

@@epicskylegend7501 The latest AAA titles. I also play a lot of Tarkov which is very CPU bound and everything runs smooth. No stuttering at all. I'm sure if one had a super high core CPU there will be many improvements. But I'm not running productivity. The difference in fps between 5600 and 5800 and in some cases 5900x is minimal at 1440p or higher and is not worth the money right now. In 2 years time maybe, but not now.

[@andremostert8630]

@@Rayer24 yeah, in gaming around 8%

[@4vnee717]

here we go...

[@ByteSizeTech]

Come on, you love us! :)

[@4vnee717]

@@ByteSizeTech more than my 5900x

[@HELL_HOUND13]

I know what you mean with the stutters. I have a 5700xt and just got a 3600x ryzen. Stutters are very noticeable . When it comes to insurgency sand storm I come across some noticeable stuttering . But it runs fine for the most part

[@moeyaz3900]

Lmao I love how often this topic comes up on this channel. And tech going into his rant about cores lol

[@bndngfn]

hmmm i feel the same even thoo i ran a gtx1660 with a r5 3600 both stabled oced 24/7. but i feel that an 8 core cpu would make a difference even if my gpu is low tier these days! but i have a question do you suggest zen 2 or zen 3 8 core cpu? and which one? ty in advance!! nice video!!!

[@dean4504]

I noticed a huge difference in stability in New World. Went from a 5600x to 5900x, using evga xc3 ultra 3080. I would black screen on occasion and frames were very jumpy. Smooth as butter now.

[@epicskylegend7501]

I believe it. New World is an extremely CPU intensive game. It will sometimes go into the smt or (hyperthreading) on my 5900x in 1440p and is frequently using between 8-12 cores. It's nice to have the extra cores in a game like New World because as you've stated is makes the game feel very smooth.

[@billj5645]

I think we are looking at cores wrong. My experience shows that Windows alone wants to dominate more than 4 threads. Sometimes a 4 core 4 thread CPU is only running Windows processes and can't take on anything else. So now how many cores/threads does the individual game require? Figure that out and add it to the number of threads that Windows will take for itself and then you know how many total cores you need.

[@Obi-Wan_Kenobi62]

pretty much, you would be correct in saying games don't use 6 cores (well they do but put that aside) but the REST of your computer DOES use more than 6 cores, you'll never see your CPU maxed out but task switching is what hurts your "smoothness".

[@CristianFuerte-z8s]

tech i have a 6800xt with a ryzen 5600 x 6 core 12 thread . do you think if i upgrade i can squeeze more out of my gpu?

[@imo098765]

The answer is simple, Tech you have the hardware do the test record the frametimes and plot the graph. Not a .1% bar chart. Show a line graph of each individual points and the data will show how smooth the frame delivery is. It only needs to be 2 games to show the point, if its correct or incorrect

[@portman8909]

i5 10400F and RTX 3060 is a decent pairing. I get no stutter, even in RTS games which are more CPU bound.

[@maxtriess884]

If thats so why does steve from gamers nexus say 5600x is all you need and 5800x is overkill?

[@TopHatCat1989]

I agree having more cores is nice, but for my own uses, mostly older games running on a 1080p 144hz monitor, a R5 3600 with an RX 570 8GB gpu and 32GB of RAM is good enough, especially since I finally managed to buy a PS5, replacing my old PS4 which I'm keeping as a backup. I'll be living with my current PC for at least another year before even attempting to build a new PC, and I'll be jumping from 6 to 12 cores, hopefully. Maybe get a new GPU next time, but not hopeful if normal pricing is just going to be stupidly high.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Indeed, it's all about use case!

[@archiaylien9650]

great videos!

[@djcupid187]

What do you guys say about people like me with a 5950x and a GTX 970 @1080p 60 Hz monitor who feels its fine? Honestly I am fine lowering details, even all the way to low if necessary, but bad frame pacing or the CPU making the game unplayable has no resolution for the problem other than throwing more money at the CPU. So far the GTX 970 has not failed me in finding a setting that a CPU can keep up with playably. I thought Back 4 Blood would be the game that finally breaks my system, but even my 4c8t laptop with at GTX 1050 runs that adequately, which is an AAA game. I wonder if my upgrade to Ryzen 9 5xxxx series was worthwhile from a gaming perspective. I run a 1080px60Hz monitor plus 1024x768 and 1280x1024 monitor setup on my ryzen 9,but did not when iwas running my Core i5 3570k

[@whatisup3632]

What do you suggest for a person who plays games on a laptop ?

[@jacobhughart8203]

My brother upgraded from a 4 core chip to an 8 core chip. He noticed the difference right away. I noticed that his computer was faster then mine as well. My computer is a 6 core chip.

[@Xeil]

Legit had this experience. Old warhorse of a 8350 paired with 780ti classified was beautiful albeit very dated, but still great for it's age. Butter on a lot of games up until the past few years. Move up to this year, 780 ti dies. Regretting that I didn't buy a newer card a few years ago when prices were realistic. Then snagged a gently used rx 480 8gb card for $200. Still smooth on the old warhorse fx8350. Find a great deal on a ryzen 3 2200g, msi gaming pro with 8gb(quickly upgraded to 32gigs because this was a place holder build.) CHOP CITY AS SOON AS I SWITCH OVER MY 480 AND TRY TO RETIRE THE FX8350 Quickly pulled the trigger on an r7 5800x, asrock b550m steel legend and a plethora of necessity because of the bad experience. Smooth as butter again. Was it the cores? Clock speed? Because on paper the ryzen 3 g2200 is better than the fx8350. The experience however was anything but better when it came to gaming. Every game micro stuttered miserably.

[@billychilders2270]

I'm running a i7 8086k @5.2 ghz with a 3070, still running damn strong with everything I throw at it!

[@nom3rcy609]

Do you think it is ok to pair ryzen 7 7700 with rtx 2070 Super for 1080p gaming? Or which cpu would you pair my gpu with to get the best gaming performance and ability to be able doing some upgrades in the future? Because I would like to upgrade to 4070 or 6700xt.. not soon at all, but it is planned.

[@raze618]

Ryzen 5 7600 would be enough to get full potential out of those cards in 1080p, but if you want extra cores just to be safe then 7700 or i5-13500 or even 13600kf (if you're not scared about its temps) are solid options.

[@hillardbishop8755]

My son went from I7 920 to R7 3700X. Massive difference! 6 months later he upgraded to R9 5900X because he likes to have 25 chrome tabs open, multiple apps running in background, and playing games at 1440p with 3070Ti. I asked him if he noticed a difference in the I7, R7, and R9. He just smiled and said the R7 was much, much better but I got tired of having to close programs just to open another. Now I can run as many apps as I want, and it doesn't affect my games. When I asked what he meant, he said everything is just smoother without pauses and stutters. There is a difference.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Awesome, thank you for the feedback! Also, you're famous! - twitter.com/TechDeals_16/status/1466824581256298511

[@onomatopoeia162003]

my memo on that. Just buy once. Instead of twice.

[@shinukage8573]

I have a 5800x and a 6800. I game at 1440p and game play is butter smooth

[@bb5307]

Upgraded my 8700k for a 5900x because BF 2042 was the first game I noticed the cpu was lagging behind my RTX 3080. Unfortunately the game performance improvements were really marginal allround and I wish I waited another year for Zen 4 and Raptor Lake. Would have been a complete waste of money if I didnt make my gf happy with my old 8700k.

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks for the feedback. You did a clean install of Windows 10 I hope?

[@bb5307]

@@ByteSizeTech All cleaned but I think it's mostly because I play on a 3440x1440 monitor for multiplayer stuff and on a 4k tv for singleplayer games so mostly I was just entirely GPU bound even with a RTX 3080 paired with a older CPU so plopping in a 5900x didn't do that much unless I turn the resolution down. I do notice it's a bit snappier outside gaming but during gaming there's little to no difference for me. But atleast my gf is happy she's off the old quadcore so it's still worth it in the end.

[@drangstveitmark]

@@bb5307 If you're on windows 11 go back asap. I have had two very comparable computers from hp in the last 3 months. One a 4600g CPU with a 1660 super. And the newest one is a 5600g with a 3060 and windows has slowed down the new one dramatically. In normal functions. Also noticed it's using 20 percent ish more ram at idle and the only difference I think it is , is windows 10 compared to windows11. Because the new 5600g and 3060 with same exact ram should be faster in general during web browsing, clicking icons etc but for what ever reason it's not

[@bb5307]

@@drangstveitmark Thanks but I went with Zen 3 because I wanted to stick with windows 10 for the time being. I usually wait about 1-2 years to switch over OS because of teething problems like you the one you mentioned.

[@Belfran]

If only running MSFS2020, I might be fine with 6 cores but, I do run VATSIM, inject real life traffic, run a charts program, a moving map, discord and watch this channel!

[@xenius7770]

It's obviously a better experience of smoothness in any resolution but for a lot people, they just get used with some stuttering and they're happy enough with this. A I5 11400F and a R5 3600 are doing a perfect job for this.

[@ShorabHossain]

Appreciate how you’re upfront about these intricate details. Most people don’t know what they’re talking about, everyone’s a tech guru these days with their 4C 4T. 🤡

[@Peter-ig6ul]

Absolutely agree with you guys, ive got an i5 9600k pair with gtx 1080ti and many games sometimes getting stuttering so i have to close some programs (even if i dont use many anyway) to eliminate the stutter and improve gameplay in general. lots of games today use 90 percent plus cpu utilization in 6 core cpus and even if you play games that use 70 percent cpu when adding all the back round programs you will still get stutter/performance issues in some games. I think a 12 core cpu today is the best choice for gaming and everything else.

[@Apathy474]

Yeah that's because you're using an Intel 6 core on an old architecture (14nm, double the size of Ryzen cpus since 3rd gen) and it doesn't have hyperthreading. Hyperthreading makes all the difference

[@jmadmachine9819]

4 core is all you need. I have 7 year old gaming desktop. 2014 the best cpu is 4 core. Played games just fine

[@ravelim4281]

Hi, I've a question in mind for quite some time, maybe I get a chance to get an answer here. I actually couldn't find any review about non-k series. Since the headroom for overclocking is crimped over the generations, what's the actual difference between 11900 and 11900K besides overclocking? Is there anything to do with the 1% low, frametime, responsiveness? I wonder non-k series chip like 12900f 12700f will start to shine.

[@mime4331]

8:03 what is she doing?

[@benjihutch24]

I've got a Ryzen 5 2600, at the moment a new Ryzen 7 5700x is around the same price as a used Ryzen 9 3900x. What would be better more IPC or more Cores/Threads? I currently play at 1080p 144hz on a RX5600xt. I mostly play Hitman 3, Insurgency Sandstorm and Star Citizen. I plan on upgrading my monitor to a 1440p ultrawide and appropriate GPU next year. What does everyone think? 5700x or 3900x?

[@wizzgamer]

More ipc the Ryzen 7 5700x is better for gaming you only need 6 cores only get the 3900x if your doing heavy and I mean heavy content creation.

[@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap]

@@wizzgamer nope, 6 cores is slow, to put it that you havent seen the video dude :P

[@wizzgamer]

@@C7TJFVB7CAZ_TyonorShap lmao OK 🤣

[@grizzly6699]

Something that is also overlooked by many. *Reinstalling Windows*. I have a R5 3500U based laptop and had to reinstall Windows just the other day. It didn't even have bloatware or a third party AV installed and I don't click and install anything and the improvement was... Wow!!! It is sooo much more responsive. The OS install was about 2.5 yrs old. Under the circumstances, I'm not sure I'd notice a CPU upgrade from a R5 to R7 or similar. Software can slow things down a lot. I will now be thinking about doing a fresh install every end of year from now on.

[@erica1399]

Is my i7-12700 enough for my rtx 4080 or should I upgrade? If so to what? I7-13700? I9-13900? I play demanding aaa games btw, I ask because here there is a difference in price between the i7 and i9, € 449,- for the i7, € 615,- for the i9, so about a little over € 150,- And not spending too much if it makes little difference is always a good thing. It's difficult for me to tell how well my 12700 does for my 4080, I came from a i5 3330 with a gtx 1050 for crying out loud, everything somewhat modern is a crazy improvement to that, there's no comparison, ofcourse my new PC is much better, but is it all it can be, or can it be better? (Without changing the gpu, not interested in the 4090, way too expensive compared to my 4080 plus too much power draw too, liked the 4080 for the improvements it had over the 3080 and that it did so on the same, or often less power usage, I think that's the major win of rtx 40 series, the efficiency so cards run at the same or lower power and give more performance compared to their predecessor of 30 series) (atleast for the 4070 and up, below 4070 sucks compared to their 30 series predecessors sadly). Initially had a different gpu, went for the i7-12700 because I already doubted how great 4 or 6 (powerful) cores would continue to do, as the i7 has 8 performance cores, so I skipped the i5's and i3's, for my old gpu my i7-12700 seemed good, but I wonder whether my 4080 does better with a bit more juice.

[@BigBananaVT]

It's not about "will it run?" Because it'll run. It's about how smooth you want it to run as well as how much overhead do you want for background stuff or multitasking. Remember when we had to close everything else out on our PCs to game and you couldn't do anything else while playing? Yeah we don't need to do that so much anymore. We can game and stream or have Chrome open with the walk-through of the game and KZbin in the background and maybe a dozen other tabs also open and have Discord open and anti-virus running and a video rendering, etc. We don't need to worry about any of that going on and our game having hiccups because of everything happening all at once. It doesn't make the game better, it makes the experience better.

[@cjagria]

hey do you think a ryzen 7 5700x it will make a significant difference vs a 5600x in gaming? paired with a 6700xt

[@masterlee1988]

It won't be a huge difference for most games but you'll still gain some higher frames.

[@123Zhyar]

I recently got my hands on a RTX 3080. And I'm still running a 8700k at 4.8 GHz. What would be a suitable CPU upgrade? (I mainly game and code)

[@mincholee4913]

I am okay with 5600x for now I could have bought RTX3080 and paired with my old cpu which is i7 7700k [FYI=3080 is about $2,000~2,500 in here(South Korea)] but I split that money to buy 5600x=$290/ RTX3070TI(ASUS TUF)=$1,500/MSI b550 TMHK=$140 This was all I could do with $2,000 limit There was pre-built PC that includes RTX3080 but it costs like $2,400 so it was out of my option

[@JubberTW]

I've got a b450 with 32gb ram a 5600x and a 2080super. 32inch 144hz 1440p screen. What's a good upgrade or should I get a new pc?

[@theboy2777]

Im confused here. a i9 9900k is bascially equivilant to a 8 core ryzen 7 5800x. the difference between a 5800x and a 5900x is super minimal. so basically your saying if i jump from a 5800x to a 5900x my fps wont get better but the game was stutter less? im sorry for reiterating what you said but im just trying to understand completely so i can pick the correct cpu

[@DirtySoap]

I learned about those alt codes when I was 11 playing Starcraft Broodwar on Battlenet in 2001.

[@ayanchatterjee9601]

It depends on the gpu u r using and games u r playing then theres resolution in which ur playing

[@raulhidalgo6817]

6 cores is great for someone on a budget and get lucky and buy a used 10400 for $90 with a vetroo v5 included!

[@philippkahle3262]

I need your help with a similar experience. Would be great, if you could help. I'm suffering from stuttering in every game with a 6800XT paired with a 5600x for about 7 months now. Support and other people in forums have no idea, what could be the origin of the stutters. Benchmarks run great. Is the 5600x struggling to keep up with my GPU?

[@jetmechanic100]

ICARUS game minimum requirements is 16GB ram, recommended 32GB. Times are changing.

[@HollowRick]

Already got 32 gigs so I'm good

[@masterlee1988]

@@HollowRick I plan to get 32GB RAM for my next PC upgrade.

[@issanesheiwat1396]

I wouldn’t call Linus’ benchmarking crap. He attempts to compare each components on the same basis by controlling as many variables as he can. In the scientific world, this is important. However, there are other types of benchmarks which relate to actual realistic uses. This is what Linus’ benchmarks lack, but we still shouldn’t forget it’s usefulness

[@ByteSizeTech]

I've watched Linus for years... the quality of their benchmarks in general has gone down, so I stand behind my statement. However, it appears he is doing something about that with his new lab!

[@akcsegamedev]

@@ByteSizeTech since luke left LTT, their reviews have gone down in quality

[@evenblackercrow4476]

"Everybody needs a brain transplant." Now, there's a holiday wish I can second.

[@inko123]

I just upgraded from a 2600x that I've had for four years to a 5800x3d... Wow! What a difference in the overall smoothness of my games. Even at 4k with an RTX 2070 native and using DLSS/FSR, games feel more cohesive.

[@peateargriffen36]

I have a RTX 3080 with a Ryzen 7 3700x , I dont know if I can justify a Ryzen 7 5800 for $350, for the slight performance increase

[@LU-gf8jz]

Not all upgrades are a must. Would you be willing to trade for an RTX 3070 and $350 cash?

[@epicskylegend7501]

If you're going to upgrade, upgrade! Going from a 3700x to a 5800x isn't worth your time.

[@hhhfdsfs]

There is no point in upgrading if you're happy with your performance.

[@mikeramos91]

your next upgrade should be a core bump

[@playmaker451]

I got my Ryzen 9: 5900X on Black Friday over on amazon and boy, I went from a Ryzen 5600X to 5900X and its a massive difference when I play MP games like Halo: Infinite

[@ByteSizeTech]

Thanks for the feedback, I hope more people read this.

[@BeeRad502]

Glad that you're system is running well. It's unfortunate that this "massive difference" can't be shown in objective data.

[@serkay1938]

no its not a massive difference lol. you maybe have somewhat better stability in your systemm thats all

[@abeerfaisal1986]

Ok. Here is a question. I just need a locked 60 Fps in my 4K OLED Tv obviously @ 4K resolution. Will my i7-10700KF bottleneck my RTX 3080 or any upcoming 3080 Ti ?

[@ByteSizeTech]

No, that would be a nice 4K experience if you're just gaming

[@greatabysswalker380]

Went from a Ryzen 5 2600 to a Ryzen 9 5900x and everything was so much smoother. I love being able to reach 144fps in most games and seeing 99-100% Gpu utilization over the 70% I would have before in Cpu bound games.

[@rommelreyes2209]

Reason why I upgraded from 3600 to 5800x. Managed to sell my 3600 above the price I got it. Have a 2070super

[@oldsculgamer5815]

Modern 4 cores r still enough for 1080p gaming. All u need is the latest quad core cpu available.

[@Obie327]

Lets be realistic here in our current computer user scenarios/pricing/usage case. "I Want" the best new build 5900X/50, Or 12900k... 3 to $5000 "OMG!" Gaming/productivity PC. Now here me out about how I got my Ryzen 5800x just recently.. A year ago in October 2020 bought a Asus tuf B550 gaming plus and upgraded ram to 32 gigs of CL 16 3600 mhz. Black Friday 2021 at Micro Center just got the Ryzen 5800X for $299.00. When the Ryzen CPU's were first launched they were very expensive and wasn't worth the wallet busting price. I don't really need the extra cores past 8/16 with this generation. (single core IPC is amazing!) Zen 6000 or whatever comes later might be a better upgrade path going forward and be more ready after this "Human Malware Virus/scalping/supply" settles down. Tech does make a good point about getting the most for your money and totally agree with him there. But reality still slaps me in the face and I can get by with a little less if I try. Being patient and finding good deals still make good sound practical sense. P.S. Intel 2600k and AMD Ryzen 2700X previous upgrades.

[@billlawson3467]

I would like to see bench marks where instead of a clean build with most if not all background task disabled, the machine is running all the usual stuff running, i.e. a mail client open, a remote desk connection, several google browser windows with multiple tabs each. then see how the cinebench, 3dmark scores change. see how 16gb, 32gb and 64gb affect, the scores. I don't only run games. most of the time I'm using it for work related and the game is the secondary interest. Now, I have a 5900x with 64GB but only a 3070 ti, would like a 6900xt or 3090, but as I said, gaming is not the primary use. The current gpu cost are just too out of wack. Plus upgrading usually mean more upgrades.

[@e1337prodigy]

13:25 truer words have never been spoken.

[@ceejay2k2]

Last year I sold my R5 3600 to a guy who was planning to get the upcoming 3080 (yer GL with that) and play in 1440p. I was a bit skeptic, but then again didn't know what he played so perhaps it worked out.

[@Bckner]

1440p makes sense with that build

[@williambreeze2659]

This is a must watch video!

[@isawprashant]

I have Ryzen 7 2700X and I am planning to buy RX 7900XTX for playing games on my 43" 4K 144hz monitor. Do I need a CPU upgrade?

[@masterlee1988]

Yes, no lower than Ryzen 7 7700 but if you can you can get Ryzen 7 7800X3D.

[@johnlopez1717]

Only reason I have a 5600x and not a 5800x or higher is because I got the 5600x for $50! Go with at least 8 cores people!