I'm Supposed to be Dead.

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Mike Johnson

Mike Johnson

Күн бұрын

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@westrim
@westrim 4 жыл бұрын
You know, it's one thing that Denise Crosby regretted her early exit. There are many actors that have rejected or ended roles and later regret it. It's quite another that, as a team, the TNG production was willing to accept her back, and ended up crafting one of the best seasons long plots of the show, starting with one of the best episodes of the show.
@Stefan-
@Stefan- Жыл бұрын
She also guest starred to play her own daugther the Romulan commander Sela.
@karmicselling4252
@karmicselling4252 Жыл бұрын
She may regret it but she does not need to. Her portrayal of Natasha Yar made a huge mark on the Star Trek multiverse and will never be forgotten.
@Rapscallion2009
@Rapscallion2009 Жыл бұрын
I had such a crush on her at around 13/14. I remember the shock when the character died. I think it was perfect writing that it was a meaningless, stupid death. Not everyone gets a huge, dramatic, heroic death. However much they may deserve one.
@asymptoticsingularity9281
@asymptoticsingularity9281 Жыл бұрын
I got out of that rape gang.
@seppforcher4714
@seppforcher4714 Жыл бұрын
Im glad she left she was horrible and i hated every second of her screentime.
@TheEDFLegacy
@TheEDFLegacy 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha: "I'd like my death to count for something." I bet that was Denise Crosby talking about her character, too.
@JnEricsonx
@JnEricsonx 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when Yar died, I was a little kid so this blew my mind. Got to meet Denise probably 10, 11 years ago.The fact that she helped create Sela blew my mind yet again.
@SusaVile
@SusaVile 4 жыл бұрын
Gotta love what the writers did with her character after her death. Really well done
@jutau
@jutau 4 жыл бұрын
@@SusaVile At a time when good writers were the standard.
@SusaVile
@SusaVile 4 жыл бұрын
@Cliven Longsight oh, I know the story behind it, I mean, what is on imdb of course. Still, at the time it felt rushed, even me as a kid realized it. And then suddenly they manage to bring her for so many nice episodes that is really great to see it
@mikecimerian6913
@mikecimerian6913 4 жыл бұрын
She wasn't comfortable with this role and it showed. She would not have been the first actor to have difficulties coping with science-fiction series.
@villLe
@villLe 4 жыл бұрын
Picard sounds so much more stressed and tired in this timeline. Defeated, even. There were times when he raised his voice in the prime timeline, but there it was always with purposeful energy.
@1337blackmage
@1337blackmage 4 жыл бұрын
War is hell
@jaidanielparker
@jaidanielparker 4 жыл бұрын
Patrick Stewart gave a great performance in this one. Picard is clearly the same person, but shaped differently by a life of harsher experiences.
@IrishCarney
@IrishCarney 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah his voice changed immediately when the timeline did. Great acting
@immortalweapon
@immortalweapon 4 жыл бұрын
He sounds so tired of giving those speechs.
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE
@SWIFTO_SCYTHE 4 жыл бұрын
In this warzone timeline he KNOWS what the higher ups wont say - the federation is on the brink of collapse in mere months. The war is going very badly. Picard must be very stressed.
@shanedawson-xt3wt
@shanedawson-xt3wt 2 жыл бұрын
The look on Picard’s face at the very end when she walks out it priceless! He realizes that one of his officers isn’t just asking to die…… they are asking that their life have meaning! Power stuff right there and you can see it on his face!
@RCaIabraro
@RCaIabraro Жыл бұрын
He’s like, “How can I possibly say no.”
@mconnors1733
@mconnors1733 9 ай бұрын
Given what Picard told Capt Garrett about the state of the war, I don't understand why he'd tell Tasha that she'll live a for a long while in this timeline. Either the Enterprise-D would be destroyed in battle, or she'd be a slave of the Klingons. Might as well send her back.
@mamarine81
@mamarine81 4 жыл бұрын
"This is Captain Shooter McGavin of the USS Enterprise..."
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
I eat shit like you you Klingons for breakfast!
@SubjectRandom21
@SubjectRandom21 4 жыл бұрын
He never did like losing that game of golf, he even ran off with the jacket. And then he has to deal with his son and the faculty.
@CoolB179
@CoolB179 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnroscoe2406 You eat pieces of shit for breakfast?
@lamueldagon7618
@lamueldagon7618 2 жыл бұрын
This episode always haunted me, its the look in her eyes about the realisation that she is supposed to be dead.
@MMuraseofSandvich
@MMuraseofSandvich Жыл бұрын
"Guinan says I died a senseless death... I didn't like the sound of that." Considering that largely happened because of the producers' actions in season 1, it seems the season 3 producers (Berman, Piller, etc.) are speaking through Tasha at that moment.
@wilfdarr
@wilfdarr Жыл бұрын
Agreed. It's a pretty sick burn.
@guysevedz3581
@guysevedz3581 4 жыл бұрын
This scene with Guinan has always gotten me in the gut. Perfectly played by both.
@RCaIabraro
@RCaIabraro Жыл бұрын
They don’t make TV shows like this anymore, where you feel like a better human being after watching.
@ruanmurta
@ruanmurta 2 күн бұрын
I fully agree with that, well said! If not better human beings, at least better professionals
@almostfm
@almostfm 3 жыл бұрын
There's that great moment right after Guinan says they're not supposed to know each other at all. You can see Tasha's thought process: "Wait, what do you mean we're not...Oh"
@Pelgram
@Pelgram Жыл бұрын
The era of great script writing
@jjohnson4474
@jjohnson4474 4 жыл бұрын
What a powerful moment, one of the ones from STNG that actually made me cry.
@ajax5622
@ajax5622 4 жыл бұрын
Is most def was, tashas story ark was very well written and performed. The writers got this one bang on.
@kamikazeraider
@kamikazeraider 4 жыл бұрын
Bang on until, ya know, they decided to write that she was captured, turned into a sex slave, and murdered by the romulan who made her into his concubine for trying to escape with her daughter. Oof.
@BennyT_3434
@BennyT_3434 3 жыл бұрын
I say this without hyperbole, but this is one of the best scenes in ST history, subtle and powerful with top-notch acting....DISCO and Picard writers please take note
@Pelgram
@Pelgram Жыл бұрын
Good writing was effortless in those days. Now they can't get it right no matter how hard they try
@tayzonday
@tayzonday Жыл бұрын
Apparently the Enterprise-D needed Tasha Yar at tactical given how the final battle went. Riker was a C-student in the honors course.
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
To this day I am convinced that the Enterprise should have beaten all three Klingon ships. She would have been heavily damaged perhaps, but she should have won.
@Cailus3542
@Cailus3542 Жыл бұрын
@@williampaz2092 They were outnumbered three to one and pinned down defending the Enterprise C. More, the Federation was losing the war. It's never stated, but I think that the Enterprise was carrying hastily repaired battle damage that had been accumulated over months and years. They were nowhere near their full strength, nor did they have their normal power reserves and ammunition stocks. Picard's tactics were very careful and deliberate, conserving his resources for later, when the Enterprise would retreat. When it became obvious that there was no escape, Picard let loose with everything that he had left. The Enterprise D of the prime timeline, in pristine condition and fully stocked, could've overwhelmed the Klingons. The war-weary Enterprise of the war timeline, damaged and with limited reserves, was outmatched.
@scotthartman8993
@scotthartman8993 Жыл бұрын
@@Cailus3542 You also have to figure teh Klingon Weapons and skill levels in the War Time line were a bit better then normal timeline because they were winning
@kevinchun5242
@kevinchun5242 Жыл бұрын
Enterprise was ment to be battle damaged and look warn out. They in a fighting retreat as Klingons push in.
@mandelorean6243
@mandelorean6243 Жыл бұрын
Browse the internet with Tay zonday! He's down the rabbit hole that goes so long we all reach the end, all repay vids
@teemusid
@teemusid 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha Yar was so poorly written that I didn't care that she died.....until this episode. Then I was pissed they'd wasted the potential of the character.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
It was Denise Crosby's own fault.
@teemusid
@teemusid 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnroscoe2406 She was a writer for the show? it's strange seeing as how her IMDB page doesn't list a writing credit.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
@@teemusid Sometimes you meet a person so stupid who says such a stupid thing in a such a self-assured way that it's impossible to respond to them. You're that person today.
@teemusid
@teemusid 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnroscoe2406 Can you read? Go back and read my original comment. Then look in the mirror.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
@@teemusid Denise Crosby decided she needed to be written out of the show because she was mad. Stop being a f****** moron.
@Hmongboi228
@Hmongboi228 4 жыл бұрын
4:45 "Lt. Tasha Yar, reporting for duty sir.." "Lieutenant, report to my quarters..."
@ehbenson2948
@ehbenson2948 4 жыл бұрын
We have an hour while the phaser banks are charging, let me show you my torpedo and I will inspect your rack
@geoffwilliams4478
@geoffwilliams4478 4 жыл бұрын
See how it lights up 😀!
@williammorris4327
@williammorris4327 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@williammorris4327
@williammorris4327 4 жыл бұрын
@MJW tasha?"that is a very small torpedo capt. Where's data time for toys again,like the good old days."
@AvalonWizard
@AvalonWizard 4 жыл бұрын
@@williammorris4327 lololol
@sitoudien9816
@sitoudien9816 4 жыл бұрын
Crosby leaving was the best thing for her career at that time. She would still be saying hailing frequency open if she stayed. Troi, Crusher, Geordie didn't get much development or screen time. When she did return she got better written roles.
@noeljohnson5892
@noeljohnson5892 3 жыл бұрын
A symbol of faith for all. The captain of the Federation’s flagship trusting the word and advice of a bartender. That’s who we want to be.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I love the chords of the soundtrack at 1:34 , also the look of "SHIT" on Picard's face when she says "I'm not supposed to be here, sir" at 2:04
@tallflguy
@tallflguy 4 жыл бұрын
And with one transfer approval, Picard caused the Klingon civil war years later.
@michaeldoles2044
@michaeldoles2044 4 жыл бұрын
DriftZ TwoSeven Half Human, Sela was Tasha’s daughter
@erentheca
@erentheca 4 жыл бұрын
But that decision likely prevented the war between the Federation and the Klingon Empire.
@GaryCameron
@GaryCameron 4 жыл бұрын
I'm amazed crewman Daniels and others from the temporal integrity commission weren't showing up at that moment to stop it.
@D.M.S.
@D.M.S. 4 жыл бұрын
@@GaryCameron Because they wouldn't have existed without it. This temporal incident is a fix point in time and a causal necessity for the survival of the Federation.
@fifthbusiness2591
@fifthbusiness2591 4 жыл бұрын
... wait a sec, wouldn’t they have extracted a ton of info about the future from her? Was that explained in the episodes with Selu?
@marco_cee_
@marco_cee_ Жыл бұрын
Man, I miss TNG. I miss old school Star Trek. Yes, it could be hit and miss at times, but there was a certain integrity, honesty, intelligence, wisdom and sincerity about its writing and its characters.
@slomnim
@slomnim 11 ай бұрын
There's a timeless truth about it. It's as if we sense the craving for this moral and honest future, we need the hope that it's possible. It represents the best of humanity, while still being human, and the perseverance to solve/beat nearly insurmountable odds while sticking to truth and principle as we see it best fit. In a sense each of us command our own enterprise, our bodies, selves, steer the soul kinda thing. This show had an effect of helping us make a formation of a sort, one where the prime directive AND the command of our own vessel is respected. We seek a flock we haven't seen manifest yet, but strive for. TNG is awesome. Literally, awe inspiring. I'm glad that it exists and that we have something like this as a reminder that integrity of the people is something that IS worth accomplishing
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
When Captain Picard gave Lt Yar permission to transfer to Enterprise “C” and she stood back up, she knew - she KNEW(!) - she had just signed her own death warrant. The look of resignation, acceptance and even fear on her face was heart-rendering. Even worse, she knew her new-found love was also going to die. And she would have to watch that and be unable to help him…
@stargazerastro
@stargazerastro Жыл бұрын
However, it turned out differently, Tasha was not killed - she survived. She fell into captivity, but aroused the pity of a Romulan general, who saved her life and married her. Then in 2345 their daughter Sela was born. In 2348 she tried to escape from Romulus together with Sela. Though, the child screamed so loudly on purpose that the escape failed. Sela could not cope with the betrayal of her mother, because she wanted to stay on Romulus and with her father. Tasha was then executed. With her mother's execution, everything human in Sela died, the only thing that remained was - as she later says herself - Romulan.
@NeilCWCampbell
@NeilCWCampbell Жыл бұрын
There are worse things than dying for a purpose
@zedzed5276
@zedzed5276 Жыл бұрын
@@NeilCWCampbell what purpose is that? producing Sela, a nuisance for the federation for years to come?
@NeilCWCampbell
@NeilCWCampbell Жыл бұрын
@@zedzed5276 when you've seen the relevent episodes get back to me
@grifballa
@grifballa 3 жыл бұрын
2:03 That silent scream. Just so many thoughts trying to come out at once. Definitely one of the best episodes
@robertswitzer3630
@robertswitzer3630 4 жыл бұрын
One of my all time favorite episodes.
@AdmRose
@AdmRose Жыл бұрын
0:05 Transporter chief standing there like …
@TheBooban
@TheBooban 4 жыл бұрын
She was a better actress than what I remembered her for.
@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641
@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641 4 жыл бұрын
Now she mostly appears drunk on conventions... 😬
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday 2 жыл бұрын
@@mcmlxxxviimcmxcvi8641 i mean makes sense for what little of a career she had outside of this, and i imagine that the fact that she stepped out just before it was getting good is pretty regretful.
@jmf5246
@jmf5246 2 жыл бұрын
One of the best scenes in all of star trek.
@TangoSierra888
@TangoSierra888 11 ай бұрын
Imagine Guinan telling you you’re supposed to be dead, & your death was an “empty death, one without purpose”.
@mahaffer71
@mahaffer71 4 жыл бұрын
AND SHE SURVIVED THAT BATTLE TO DIE ON A Romulan Planet..... betrayed by her daughter. Who grows up to interfere with the Klingon civil war
@Creasy5678
@Creasy5678 4 жыл бұрын
In this Timeline the War is going very badly for the Federation, which is within months of collapse and utter defeat. They have to have lost thousands, if not tens of thousands of people, minimum, and they have to know what the Klingons will do to anyone captured alive who didn't die an "Honourable" death in combat. Picard is an explorer and diplomat at heart, forced by circumstance into a situation where the blood of who knows how many Klingons is on his hands as Captain of the Enterprise, the Federation flagship. There's no telling how many ugly truths or horrors he knows about he's had to keep from his crew, and take note the only person he confides in is the Captain of the Enterprise C. He even argues with Riker and verbally slaps him down, which he never does in the normal timeline. Then Guinan tells him that not only are things not meant to be this way, but that if they manage to reset the Timeline all the death and sacrifice they have suffered through will be for nothing? No wonder he seems so angry and bitter, his whole life has been taken from him in a cause which should never have been. Plus, he's sending the Enterprise C and her crew to their deaths on a suicide mission. Then his Tactical officer volunteers to join the suicide mission on the basis Guinan says she's dead in the "normal" Timeline... Then Tasha's Daughter shows up in the normal Timeline, and it turns out there was never a "normal" to get back to...
@imaxjunior6531
@imaxjunior6531 4 жыл бұрын
@@Creasy5678 Talk about having a bad day in space. But we love Star Trek regardless.
@DrewPicklesTheDark
@DrewPicklesTheDark 4 жыл бұрын
Her daughter had to choose her father or mother, one of them was being betrayed, she chose her father and home.
@mahaffer71
@mahaffer71 4 жыл бұрын
@@DrewPicklesTheDark well i dont think she was willing to have a child. Was a prisoner of war and probably turned into a slave
@mrspidey80
@mrspidey80 4 жыл бұрын
Who also screws over the ancient Iconians during time travel, which causes them to supernova Romulus in revenge and then wage a terrible war across the whole galaxy (at least in the STO-Timeline)
@Ayeohx
@Ayeohx 4 жыл бұрын
Great lighting on Tasha's face when talking to Picard.
@jl-fy3zj
@jl-fy3zj 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, it makes her look only half as ugly.
@gregthwuen
@gregthwuen 4 жыл бұрын
@@jl-fy3zj wtf
@chrispeplinski7306
@chrispeplinski7306 4 жыл бұрын
It was great to Tasha again and got a better send-off here. She probably could have developed into a decent character had she stayed particularly the legacy episode.
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t like how Guinan’s “vague feelings” manage to be so on the nose.
@pathutchison9866
@pathutchison9866 4 жыл бұрын
I get your point, but I’ve always felt that Guinan just couldn’t explain In words to a human how she knew and so she went with the “It’s a feeling” route.
@DARisse-ji1yw
@DARisse-ji1yw 4 жыл бұрын
I think Spike Lee described the trope perfectly.
@valkrae4876
@valkrae4876 4 жыл бұрын
It's not exactly a trope. Imagine being an entity that exists outside the normal flow of time, and with an acute knowledge and understanding of the flow of space-time and the timeline you're supposed to be in. Now, imagine you suddenly remember something else, something that doesn't sit right in the brain. When you look around, things are right but not. To Guinan, she can't explain what she doesn't know, but she knows what she knows isn't right.
@DARisse-ji1yw
@DARisse-ji1yw 4 жыл бұрын
@@valkrae4876 as Spike Lee said, "magic" !
@Nickelodeon81
@Nickelodeon81 4 жыл бұрын
She's a good listener
@kylepederson9420
@kylepederson9420 4 жыл бұрын
How can the Romulans possibly withstand both Tasha Yar and Shooter McGavin?
@mahaffer71
@mahaffer71 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim Well she did survive in that battle to later die on A Romulan Planet..... betrayed by her daughter. Who grows up to interfere in the Klingon civil war
@kylepederson9420
@kylepederson9420 4 жыл бұрын
@Jim He eats pieces of shit like you for breakfast ;-)
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
@@kylepederson9420 He eats shit for breakfast?!
@kylepederson9420
@kylepederson9420 4 жыл бұрын
@@johnroscoe2406 .....NO!!!
@Voldemorty2001
@Voldemorty2001 2 ай бұрын
I'm moved to tears by this scene, you could see how much it tore Picard's heart right out of his chest and hollowed him to say "Tasha....request granted."
@DiscoRaptor
@DiscoRaptor 4 жыл бұрын
I would love a little more backstory on the El-Aurians... how are they so sensitive to changes in the space/time continuum, why are the Q (pretty much gods) wary of them? And as badass as the Borg are, how were they able to assimilate and destroy a race that the Q wouldn't fuck with!? Or is it only some El-Aurians who have that sort of power? Since Soren didn't seem all that special...?
@ishiioutcasts
@ishiioutcasts 4 жыл бұрын
It's not all El-Aurians, as it is suggested by Guinan that the Q did indeed visit her home world in the past and terrorize it's people. Guinan's power seems derived from the Nexus, something her and a few other select El-Aurians were able to experience. What makes Guinan and Soran different, is Guinan accepted and moved on from her desire to return to the Nexus. Not only that, but it is very heavily implied that she actually possesses some control over her Nexus echo, evidenced by her ability to give the echo memories from outside the Nexus. This control would also imply she is also able to receive things from the Nexus as well. Soran on the other hand, allowed himself to become consumed by his desire to return to the Nexus, essentially, allowing it to control him, rather than him control it.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
@@ishiioutcasts "They say Time is the fire in which we burn."
@Rensune
@Rensune 2 жыл бұрын
The third El-Aurian, Martus Mazur (implied to be one of Guinan's sons) never displays any of Guinan's special abilities, aside from "listening". Guinan is unique.
@lamueldagon7618
@lamueldagon7618 2 жыл бұрын
@@MikinessAnalog only if were just physical beings... But we are not
@davecrupel2817
@davecrupel2817 Жыл бұрын
Was Soren an El-Aurian?
@WarGrowlmon18
@WarGrowlmon18 Жыл бұрын
And by going back she created an evil half-Romulan hybrid that shows up later!!!
@ryanbaker979
@ryanbaker979 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha's death may actually be the single greatest development of her character. It gave us episodes like this. In the beginning, it was too many characters without any real direction(writing wasn't at it's prime in the first two season although there are definitely good episodes in each). Although you could imagine what could've been, that in itself should be enough, the show did fine otherwise. One of the best finales imho.
@MichaelPhongMitchell
@MichaelPhongMitchell Жыл бұрын
@ryanbaker979 the death of Tasha gave us a new chief of security, Worf. :)
@davidnorman4786
@davidnorman4786 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely. This episode (and those after) made her character great.
@bearb1asting
@bearb1asting 4 жыл бұрын
Seeing Tasha is bittersweet.
@Mooshkajoe
@Mooshkajoe 4 жыл бұрын
Such an amazing and powerful show.
@jonnyb70
@jonnyb70 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 Guinan "but I do know it was an empty death; a death without purpose." SUBTLE AS A TWO BY FOUR TO THE BRIDGE OF YOUR NOSE THERE yo
@mrBasketcase69
@mrBasketcase69 4 жыл бұрын
That was a low-key jab at Denise.... For that b.s. she did ....
@aperson22222
@aperson22222 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I really don’t like how on the nose Guinan manages to be with her vague feelings and premonitions.
@FFKonoko
@FFKonoko 4 жыл бұрын
@@mrBasketcase69 uh, not really. She wasn't the one that wrote the death.
@jerodast
@jerodast 4 жыл бұрын
This always felt like a pretty direct apology for how they killed her off the first time haha.
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
@@FFKonoko Yup, Denise wrote her own death into the show.
@dodgeman4360
@dodgeman4360 4 жыл бұрын
"I do know it was a death without purpose"........... The reminds me of the movie "The 7 Faces of Dr. Lao" in one scene he tells an older woman of her terribly lonely future with the ending "It will be as though you never were born".......
@captcorajus
@captcorajus 4 жыл бұрын
4:03 Picard: "lieutenant"... (Oh, nothing I say is going to changer her mind) "Permission granted."
@MikinessAnalog
@MikinessAnalog 4 жыл бұрын
I felt that as well.
@williampaz2092
@williampaz2092 Жыл бұрын
She would have gone anyway
@partyguy101ify
@partyguy101ify 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine someone you know and trust, through some temporal anomaly, tells you that you're not supposed to be alive or at least in the picture and that, in order to fix everything, you have to die or at least go away. Your parents, siblings, friends, significant other, children, pets? No more.
@thebigivalbowlski
@thebigivalbowlski 9 ай бұрын
they could have had her daughter as part of the regular cast and find redemption for what she did to her mother by being a prisoner with the Federation. that would have been a good story
@Javelin3o4
@Javelin3o4 4 жыл бұрын
This episode popped up on my recommended yesterday so I ended up having to watch the full episode later that night...
@Hasselroeder
@Hasselroeder 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha Yar.. one of my childhood crushes.... her death was so needless!
@jessejohnson159
@jessejohnson159 4 жыл бұрын
I love great writing to tell a great story!
@HRHooChicken
@HRHooChicken 4 жыл бұрын
Do you know how? Yeah some slime thing zapped you for a laugh
@jonnyb70
@jonnyb70 4 жыл бұрын
God Dammit Denise why'd you have to quit the show
@Frankie2012channel
@Frankie2012channel 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha Yar's character was terribly written. Deal with it. She didn't know that the show would hire better writers later, but even then, Yar didn't have that much to do and she was kind of a 'story dead end'. The Show was BETTER without her (not because Crosby was bad) but because the writers had no idea what to do with Yar in the first Seasons.
@12345diehappy
@12345diehappy 4 жыл бұрын
Work constantly got his ass handed to him, probably a woman in that position would have been written to beat up the bad guys.
@marcusgingell3585
@marcusgingell3585 4 жыл бұрын
Worf was a better security officer anyway
@Ellros
@Ellros 4 жыл бұрын
@@Frankie2012channel Rumor back then in 1987 was that Crosby's "indiscretions" ( an adult type film or playboy spread. I cant remember which) did not please Gene Roddenberry, so she was written out of the show. And killed off 5 minutes into her final episode. Her coming back was after Roddenberry's death. Note, this was the rumor at the time.
@tomv5988
@tomv5988 4 жыл бұрын
@@Ellros Never heard that before. I heard that Roddenberry let her out of the contract because she was not satisfied with the role. He understood her concerns and let her out of the contract. If he was not as involved it would have been a different story. I doubt the studio would have allowed her out of the contract.
@DanFitzdrop
@DanFitzdrop 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good episode
@Sliferzero
@Sliferzero 4 жыл бұрын
That Cool Show and that Great Episode my friends. Thanks.
@trapperjohn6089
@trapperjohn6089 Жыл бұрын
Gianan creating a temporal incursion while she’s teaching picard how to repair one. Romulan commander Sela is not supposed to exist. Commander Sela obviously influenced events between major galactic powers.
@Jabberstax
@Jabberstax 2 жыл бұрын
The makers of new Trek should watch this episode and hang their heads in shame.
@astronomeratnight
@astronomeratnight 4 жыл бұрын
How awesome it would have been when Tasha leaves the Ready Room for Picard to say "Au revior, Natasha" like he did when she died in the original timeline.
@Durwood71
@Durwood71 Жыл бұрын
Picard in this timeline didn't have the luxury of being sentimental.
@NonSenseMcGee
@NonSenseMcGee 2 жыл бұрын
So much of this whole episode would have been so much better fodder for S2 of ST:Picard. How the rift, though dealt with, sent a ripple through the universe that fractures time 30 years later, leading to a multiverse including many more of the characters we've come to know and love. Thats the B story - the A story being the real reason why Q was always mindful of humanity and the real reason Q and Guinan had the relationship they did - the El Aurians were an ancient offshoot of humanity that came from Earth but erased all traces of their mark on that world. Q knew humans had the ability to become like Guinan and her people, and so did Guinan. But they never revealed it until S2 of Picard...ah well.
@noeljohnson5892
@noeljohnson5892 3 жыл бұрын
Natasha Yar claims a senseless death in the other timeline. Let’s avoid the discussion of all death being “senseless” briefly. In this televised account of the journey of the starship enterprise, Tasha Yar was portrayed as having died while confronting a being that was hostile to her crewmates and others. She is now arguing that joining the crew of the Enterprise C would be less “senseless”. I admire her courage and goals. Yet I also recognize that her previous hypothetical death was not “senseless” within the framework of this educational scenario.
@sidpheasant7585
@sidpheasant7585 Жыл бұрын
She was got in the back for the fun of it by some oil-creature...
@freerunopa
@freerunopa Жыл бұрын
If dead or death is " senseless" than life is " senseless" . if I die i hope people will remember me opf my doing, my beeing, and think of the message i spread to all in my life. Be honest, don't lie, don't steal and above all enjoy life
@woohooboy
@woohooboy 11 ай бұрын
HOT TAKE: I don't believe Denise Crosby regretted her decision to leave TNG. Why? - Because she was frustrated with the lack of screentime and character development that was not being offered to her. Despite repeatedly airing her concerns to the powers that be, nothing was done. And given that the producers did not fight her on this decision to go (and they agreed to let her out of her contract), it was clear the actress was aware that nothing was coming down the pipeline for her on the show hence why she departed the series. Look at it from this perspective, if she were important to the show and its future storylines, they would never have let her leave as she was under contract. Crosby has stated that what she missed was no longer working with her fellow castmates who had all bonded with each other, but she also made it clear that creatively she wasn't fulfilled on TNG.
@napnip
@napnip 6 ай бұрын
Truth be known, she made a far bigger impact being killed off and then "brought back" as Tasha's daughter Sela than if she had stayed on to begin with. This created a far more interesting storyline than I'm guessing the writers could have come up with had she stayed.
@woohooboy
@woohooboy 6 ай бұрын
​​​@@napnip - Had she chosen to continue, I imagine a point would have been reached where either her character or Worf's would have been written out This much is certain, Troi would have been axed after season one as Roddenberry and co were already looking at trimming down the cast feeling that there were too many characters in the show's lineup. Tasha remaining on the show would mean Worf would not have come into prominence like he did since that only happened AFTER she left. In short, Tasha and Worf were too similar to have co-existed side by side for the entire length of TNG's run with one or both characters being impacted. In all probability, Yar would not have made it beyond the end of season two.
@trenthawkins
@trenthawkins Жыл бұрын
And then, at that Klingon outpost the Romulans are like "The heck, that weird federation ship we just kicked the shit out of is suddenly back to ~90%. Disable her again and capture any remaining crew." And they also picked up a Starfleet admiral from the year 2409, because the 1701-C made a little detour and got caught by Tholians. Although Sela thought them dead, the surviving crew of the Enterprise C were kept alive on a prison colony until unstable temporal anomalies started killing people.
@Bobaklives
@Bobaklives 4 жыл бұрын
...all because Denise Crosby regretted bailing on TNG in season 1.
@bobpage6597
@bobpage6597 4 жыл бұрын
There are a number of stories around why DC left. Some accounts say it was because she felt the character wasn't getting enough development and she wasn't being listened to, others say it was due to her naked photos she had done with Playboy, and I believe went back to for a time after her stint on TNG. Meh, who knows!
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 4 жыл бұрын
@@bobpage6597 when she left TNG was pretty lame and didn't show ANY sign of becoming a classic series someday. i really don't blame her for bailing.
@benjaminknotts745
@benjaminknotts745 4 жыл бұрын
Kevin Thomas I certainly didn’t like the series at the time. You’re right
@trekjudas
@trekjudas 4 жыл бұрын
Benjamin Knotts TNG is considered one of the greatest sci fi shows of all time today BUT it didn’t start out that way!
@thehantavirus
@thehantavirus 4 жыл бұрын
i think she mentioned they gave her just a limited role, just 1 or 2 lines, or just as a background feature. thats why she left, and also she saw the series wasnt going in a good direction, she underestimated how well the series turned out.
@SophiaAphrodite
@SophiaAphrodite Жыл бұрын
We all know too well it is Shooter Mcgavin's fault.
@shoesncheese
@shoesncheese 4 жыл бұрын
Such a good episode. Redeemed what they did to Tasha.
@mahaffer71
@mahaffer71 4 жыл бұрын
Yeaaaa but she survived in that battle to later die on A Romulan Planet..... betrayed by her daughter. Who grows up to interfere with the Klingon civil war
@GuineaPigEveryday
@GuineaPigEveryday 2 жыл бұрын
@@mahaffer71 yeah a very weird twist, especially to think her mother had been raped and stockholm syndrome'd into that position, her daughter even kills her for trying to escape, thats just fucked.
@joshuadesautels
@joshuadesautels Жыл бұрын
Only for it to later be revealed by Sela that she ultimately STILL died for nothing.
@forcelightningcable9639
@forcelightningcable9639 4 жыл бұрын
The WRITING though!! Fuck this dialogue is like crack!
@thebradman4662
@thebradman4662 2 жыл бұрын
4:42 In my opinion, there was a huge missed opportunity to have Tasha dressed in the uniforms of that period, so she would blend in with all the other C crew. Why, you might ask? In the event of capture, surely questions would be asked as to the vastly different uniform…and information about the future and its tech, even from a different temporal universe, might be extremely useful to the Romulans. An earlier uniform could have easily and quickly been fashioned for her by a replicator.
@DesignIncase
@DesignIncase Жыл бұрын
Her uniform isn't super high tech clothing for the period. If anyone survived, they'd be captured and tortured. The Romulans have no reason to suspect she is extremely special.
@richards4711
@richards4711 Жыл бұрын
@@DesignIncase except for the high-tech subspace transciever and computer pinned to her chest...
@chinareds54
@chinareds54 Жыл бұрын
Meh, what are the chances that she would be captured alive by the Romulans... :p
@JohnS-il1dr
@JohnS-il1dr Жыл бұрын
​@@chinareds54she was though. A sympathetic Romulan married her and produced Sela, a daughter who betrayed her and wanted to destroy the Federation
@chinareds54
@chinareds54 Жыл бұрын
@@JohnS-il1dr I *thought* I made my sarcasm obvious but I guess tone is hard to communicate in text. :p
@thewewguy8t88
@thewewguy8t88 4 жыл бұрын
At 3:30 I can not tell if there was logic or not in her request. Honestly due to what was know now her choice to go may have helped the federation win the dominion war.
@bradbrngal474
@bradbrngal474 4 жыл бұрын
I never noticed that he didn't have a com badge the entire episode
@alandouglas2789
@alandouglas2789 3 жыл бұрын
Who?
@kflor7890
@kflor7890 4 жыл бұрын
This time Shooter McGavin gets the girl.
@mmjahink
@mmjahink 4 жыл бұрын
SHOOTER!
@Mr5percenter
@Mr5percenter 4 ай бұрын
There is so much going on in these short but powerful scenes. This is the ultimate redemption story for Tasha, who heroically and willingly sacrifices her life to save the federation. From dying a senseless death in the former timeline to dying the most honourable death in the new timeline. Yar, Picard, & Castillo acting was masterful. Easily one of the best episodes in all the star treks. This is a keeper scene ❤
@Bigalinjapan
@Bigalinjapan 4 жыл бұрын
I never new Tasha had such a cute voice in English.
@CMVBrielman
@CMVBrielman 9 ай бұрын
1:06 That facial expression alone… oof.
@haldosprime3896
@haldosprime3896 Жыл бұрын
Something I always liked was the idea that hearing that Tasha died was difficult but hearing that she died for nothing was unbearable. Leaving for Enterprise-C wasn’t about living or dying, it was about making a difference.
@rlopezosorio1975
@rlopezosorio1975 11 ай бұрын
This episode always makes me cry. It must be because of dying for a greater good.
@TRGFBC
@TRGFBC 2 жыл бұрын
This one makes me feel like ensign Ro was almost what Tasha's role was supposed to be
@Sparky1701
@Sparky1701 3 жыл бұрын
Tasha was an awesome character--she was just not given too many opportunities to show it--just like Wesley. This and Sela shows what could have been.
@pathutchison9866
@pathutchison9866 4 жыл бұрын
I first saw this episode around the year 2000. I kept expecting Lieutenant Shooter McGavin to reveal his treachery at some point. Just a hard face to trust.
@bryango5979
@bryango5979 Жыл бұрын
yeah, i agree his is a hard face to trust. also, rumor has it that guy eats pieces of shit for breakfast.
@kewltony
@kewltony 4 жыл бұрын
Then she realizes she is completely unfamiliar with that ship.
@enrac
@enrac 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't there a throwaway line in the episode where she implies she knows how to handle the controls?
@NaptownClassic
@NaptownClassic 4 жыл бұрын
I'm sure a security officer might be more intimately familiar with the ship they are assigned to, but equally sure they'd have adequate knowledge of all the systems on any ship. There has to be contingencies for transfers during wartime or other emergencies where they don't have time to teach someone from the ground up.
@azurecomet86
@azurecomet86 4 жыл бұрын
Ambassador class starships like the Enterprise C were still widely used and even newly made in the era of TNG and DS9. Barclay had even transferred from one (the NCC-26136 USS Zhukov) to the Enterprise D. It's reasonable to assume her training or service would have required her to be familiar with one at some point.
@kinbolluck476
@kinbolluck476 Жыл бұрын
BRYLCREEM CREATINE AND A BAG OF COL KAI EINE
@stargazerastro
@stargazerastro Жыл бұрын
She knew she would die. However, it turned out differently, Tasha was not killed - she survived. She fell into captivity, but aroused the pity of a Romulan general, who saved her life and married her. Then in 2345 their daughter Sela was born. In 2348 she tried to escape from Romulus together with Sela. Though, the child screamed so loudly on purpose that the escape failed. Sela could not cope with the betrayal of her mother, because she wanted to stay on Romulus and with her father. Tasha was then executed. With her mother's execution, everything human in Sela died, the only thing that remained was - as she later says herself - Romulan.
@danielherrin
@danielherrin 4 жыл бұрын
I thought it was odd with all the time changes the Enterprise D basically has the same crew.
@ceaabe
@ceaabe 4 жыл бұрын
When Star Trek was meaningful and was about characters and philosophy. Long time ago.
@Trikeboy2
@Trikeboy2 4 жыл бұрын
It still is if you bother to actually pay attention.
@SethBrundleify
@SethBrundleify 4 жыл бұрын
Denise Crosby also played Tasha's daughter.
@madscientist8286
@madscientist8286 4 жыл бұрын
1:30 is the music of the terrible lonely, sad pit monster slime, right? :O Damn I've been watching TNG for like 25 years over and over again and I just realized!
@robinpage2730
@robinpage2730 10 ай бұрын
As soon as Enterprise-C gets back to their time, Lt. Yar would vanish, as the restoration of the original timeline would return her to the state of being dead, removing her from that existence.
@shaungould6391
@shaungould6391 4 жыл бұрын
As a role player I kind of figured out a weasel way of getting out of this. If the enterprise-c is supposed to lose Let it lose. That doesn't mean that the crew or at least all of it have to go back with it. Since the ship was in the middle of the fight already and under heavy barrage just sending it back with Alex Shields up should take care of the problem rather quickly. The ship will be destroyed and all hands will be lost. It would still be considered a honorable death to the Klingons and the crew would survive.
@tominsley787
@tominsley787 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing subtle acting by Denise at 4:09 (along with a perfect musical cue) - it appears that with Picard's words the enormity of her request truly hits her: "Holy crap. I'm going to be dead in a couple hours."
@scottklingaman244
@scottklingaman244 Жыл бұрын
best episode of TNG
@Conmon115
@Conmon115 9 ай бұрын
Crosby killed it in this episode.
@samsticka
@samsticka 3 жыл бұрын
Castillo: You're not part of my crew. Tasha: I am now.
@speedwayaudio3
@speedwayaudio3 4 жыл бұрын
Shooter McGaven scores with Tasha Bang Bang!
@mahaffer71
@mahaffer71 4 жыл бұрын
YEa he didnt get that far, but a Romulan did and made her his slave to later die on A Romulan Planet..... betrayed by her daughter. Who grows up to interfere with the Klingon civil war
@lisasimmons5362
@lisasimmons5362 3 жыл бұрын
Phenomenal episode
@hmartinspliff
@hmartinspliff 4 жыл бұрын
If only Worf was still tactical officer onboard the Enterprise D in the alternate timeline despite the war with the Klingons, he could've given the Enterprise C crew vital tactical information regarding "ramming speed" to take out at least one of the Romulan warbirds.....the only tactical info Tasha Yar is providing is how to suck face with Lt. Castillo. _"Perhaps today _*_IS_*_ a good day to die!"_
@TheKrensada
@TheKrensada 4 жыл бұрын
Tasha decided to go with them, and at that moment the captain knew it was finally Shooter's turn.
@johnroscoe2406
@johnroscoe2406 4 жыл бұрын
The origin of Sela.
@motodork
@motodork 4 жыл бұрын
He walked up to her and the end of that clip like he was about to eat her.
@craigmartinj
@craigmartinj Жыл бұрын
We weren't meant.... but but... you are my FRIEND. please! Perfect acting in this sequence.
@keith3761
@keith3761 3 жыл бұрын
I feel sorry for the Romulans who had this ship dead to rites, only to have it disappear and reappear a second later with full shields life support and weapons and start blasting them left and right. "HACKS!!" screamed the Romulans. Probably why the Romulans never trusted the federation after that
@RyanMarice
@RyanMarice 4 жыл бұрын
I just realized. Watching these clips is better than watching Picard.
@jondaly5920
@jondaly5920 4 жыл бұрын
Slamming your hand in a car door is better than Picard.
@DeepSketch
@DeepSketch Жыл бұрын
Oh i happen to know your death was totally meaningless. You're welcome
@larrytruelove7112
@larrytruelove7112 4 жыл бұрын
When I looked up her bio, I discovered that Bing Crosby was her grandfather, even though she never met him.
@paradisebreeze1705
@paradisebreeze1705 4 жыл бұрын
Any relation to Bill?
@larrytruelove7112
@larrytruelove7112 4 жыл бұрын
once upon a time far far away sausage Bill’s last name was Cosby, not Crosby. I hope you’re joking. When I was a kid I used to get the two last names confused.
@kevinhart8339
@kevinhart8339 Жыл бұрын
Shooter jealous of that Gold Jacket
@metalore
@metalore 4 жыл бұрын
1:55 "Whatchoo talkin bout now?" LOL
@jameslorman4715
@jameslorman4715 Жыл бұрын
Shooter !!! Gettin some on the Enterprise.....
@safirahmed
@safirahmed 4 жыл бұрын
Yesterday's Enterprise is a great episode for Star Trek fans interested in the Mandela Effect.
@glenndallas7171
@glenndallas7171 4 жыл бұрын
Why? Guinan wasn't wrong. I don't think the Mandela Effect applies here.
@safirahmed
@safirahmed 4 жыл бұрын
@@glenndallas7171 I never said Guinan was wrong. I was only referring to alternate timelines being of interest to those interested in the Mandela Effect.
@ZantherStone
@ZantherStone 3 жыл бұрын
They always make this point about an empty death. Guys she died on a mission. She was there to help rescue a trapped member of her crew. It was a line of duty death due to an evil adversary. It wasn't an empty death. Much better than dying from some random control panel explosion or being sucked out into space from a hull breech.
@Filthy_Larry
@Filthy_Larry 2 жыл бұрын
Or her bleeding to death from a artery rupture in her vaginal area due to a vibratory malfunction while in her quarters at the start of an episode right before the opening credits.
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