I tested Sequoia on ALL UNSUPPORTED MACs!

[@imixmuan9081]

Sticking with Monterey on my 2008 Unibody Macbook. When I no longer have a supported browser I will MX Linux this machine for its "retirement". 16 years of use is not bad at all.....

[@Maradnus]

I used my Mac Pro 2006 until 2019.. :D

[@diamondjebgold9906]

My dad used a 2007 iMac from early 2007 to 2023. It worked perfectly even though the browsers were probably risky to use at the age it was, but the hhd died and after already going thorough 2 of them we called it quits on that computer and just stuck with the 2011 MacBook Pro that we had aswell.. I still use that 2011 MacbookPro for anything music related. Works great and browsing still works fine. It’s on high sierra.

[@mecongberlin]

Ever done Linux before? Is it good? I have no experience.

[@graxxor]

Wow... Just came here from your 2 year old video and I have to say EVERYTHING about your videos has improved... We are talking: EDITING, SOUND, PACING, INFO DELIVERY... the works. Fantastic stuff... Upvoted.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@graxxor thank you so much ☺️

[@stefanblutke8053]

Thanx Jessie for your hard work. Is so good to have you around! Keep goin' bro!!!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@stefanblutke8053 thx 🙏🚀

[@teacherwilldicas]

I've got a MacBook Late 2011, I7 Dual Core, 16 GB RAM. I was using Ventura and it was pretty smooth. However, I made the huge mistake of upgrading it to Sequoia. It doesn't share contents on Meet, Teams and any other meeting platforms any more. It was a mistake because I use it a lot (teaching online). I'll soon get back to Ventura. Thanks for clearing up my doubts about this! Nice video. Cheers from Brazil.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@teacherwilldicas cheers!

[@CamiloRestrepo-w3d]

Thanks for sharing, I have a 27 inch 2011 iMac with 2GB video card that i want to upgrade to ventura... so the comments on this video really make me think about it. but reading you... i Might give it a try. This is the 1st video I see comparing different computer which is fantastic!!! congrats to Jessi for the idea. I will review his other videos just to see what happen with ventura since I am not able to find the same comparison for Ventura I am taking your comment as a good feedback.

[@bobbyjimenez4482]

Hi.. May I ask... Did u upgrade straight from app store or did u do it via OCLP. .... Tnx much appreciated

[@teacherwilldicas]

@@bobbyjimenez4482 I did it via OCLP!

[@janice-_-8188]

Hey, How did you managed to work your external display with your MB? I tried using Mini-DP to HDMI, adapters and dongles, still no signal. Note: my dGPU isn't fried up

[@louisfifteen]

The most thorough walkthrough I have witnessed thus far. Thank you Jessie. Now i know what to look out for as I am concidering a Macbook pro for the first time. Windows/Linux user, curious about Apple.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@louisfifteen 👍🚀

[@JAYRXNIC]

Your helping in so many ways and you don’t even know it , god bless you

[@JessiesFlying]

@@JAYRXNIC 😊

[@yon4756]

I installed it on my early 2015 MacBook Pro and it works fine

[@takeasmile97]

8gb ram also?

[@deftone4u]

I did on mine and now i can’t pickup any WiFi networks anymore.

[@insoninenine8749]

One crucial point you really should consider including is the importance of installing "h264ify" extension if you are using Chrome browser on an older machine without VP9/HEVC acceleration. This will automatically select the h264 format for youtube streaming, which can be hardware accelerated- as opposed to the default software acceleration of VP9/HEVC which comes at an enormous performance penalty for these older machines.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@insoninenine8749 thx for the info!

[@graxxor]

TIL this extension exists!!! I just tried this... It does make a noticeable difference. Thanks...

[@ruggeroaebi]

HAMMER Jessie!! Wie immer von Dir TOP interessantes Video! Herzlichen Dank dafür!!👍👍👍👍 Habe meinen iMac Late 2015 27" dank Deiner tollen Instruktion absolut ohne Probleme auf Sequoia upgedatet! Und läuft Top ohne jegliche Probleme! BRAVO! Auch Update 15.0.1 no problem!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@ruggeroaebi klingt doch gut 👍😬

[@ThinkingBetter]

Always awesome videos here. Just as I was updating to 15.0.1 I noticed this video...

[@JessiesFlying]

@@ThinkingBetter 😈

[@frankfriedlos3721]

What an excellent video Jessie. Informed and measured, easy to follow and really educational. Well done. Keep it up chief, keep it up!

[@mattstone8878]

JESSIE'S POOPING 💩 😮

[@JessiesFlying]

Thanks so much!

[@peterbanister1319]

Mac Pro 2013 here. I just tested google chrome on my Mac on Sequoia and it seemed to be working flawlessly

[@MrThinkMaker]

As a developer back in my days I have to say it is sick that simple app like keynote is hardware dependant. Architecture of any computer did not change from the beginning. It is still hardware->OS->app. If you can install OS and it is working there is no reason that any app could not run. With one exeption or may be two like Corel or Adobe products.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@MrThinkMaker it depends if you use hardware features like AVX2.0 that is simply not available on old Macs

[@zizlog_sound]

@@MrThinkMaker , Apple knows how to render hardware unusable for its software. They need to be sued for it, for everything they do making fully working devices obsolete, turning them into landfill.

[@FinalVibes]

Fantastic video. Great work.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@FinalVibes thx! ☺️

[@DieserEineee]

Thank you very much! This gave me the confidence to upgrade my 2015 MacBook Pro to the lastest Mac Os!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@DieserEineee 🚀

[@ColoCulture]

@@DieserEineee How has it been working for you? WiFi working ok?

[@rafaelrmmoreira]

Great video, as it has several Macs, it helps users a lot. I have the 2017 MBP with Radeon Pro 555, good to know it runs well.

[@3litepker]

@@rafaelrmmoreira have you upgraded?

[@rafaelrmmoreira]

@@3litepker Not yet because Ventura will receive an update until September 2025.

[@chrishayden5922]

AMAZING level of detail!!!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@chrishayden5922 ☺️

[@TheMultiformMisanthropist]

Finally after so much struggle with Update System Setting I could successfully get the update 15.0.1 done and running well.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@TheMultiformMisanthropist 👍🚀

[@mattstone8878]

I have a late 2009 iMac running a Core 2 Duo running Sequoia. It's slow but it works! I keep it going to make Tim Cook cranky. 😂

[@JessiesFlying]

Great to hear!

[@mattstone8878]

@JessiesFlying Amazingly, it still runs the most up to date version of Ableton Live 12! So you can pretend to be Skrillex for the price of lunch at McDonald's. 😄

[@JessiesFlying]

@@mattstone8878 🤣

[@bsdooby]

What a nice compilation!

[@citroenfan8930]

Just have to say that I have a mid 2012 Mac Pro (5,1) as well as a mid 2012 MacBook Pro (15"). The Mac Pro has a flashed RX580 GPU, 2 x 3.46 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon processors, as well as a 6 port USB 3.0 card. Both are currently running Sequoia 15.1 via OCLP. One the things I really like about the 5,1s is the almost insane amount of storage that can be installed. I have two 1gig SSD's (one with Monterey and the other with Sequoia) a DVD, and 3 internal HD as well as two external connected via the USB3 hub for a total of 34 TB total storage. I use the Pro for general web stuff, e-mail as well as for photo corrective work from high resolution scans of negatives/tx that go back to early 60's. Also corrective/enhancement of old DVD shows. Works just fine - am sure that newer machines would do some of this faster, but no big deal. Why spend thousand's of dollars for a bit quicker unit?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@citroenfan8930 absolutely! Just the power draw is way higher

[@citroenfan8930]

@@JessiesFlying True - but don't have it on all day:). And at 79 ain't gonna live long enough to use in power what a replacement would cost. + not sure it would be as reliable. This puppy is almost 12 years from when I bought it back in 2013 along with my Epson 3880 Pro a package deal from a student at UCSB who decided she really did not want to go into photography.

[@andrewsmith9075]

I can't get any USB Camera even the system can see them on my 5,1 and tccplus I can't get to work. I love this guy.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@andrewsmith9075 maybe ask that on Discord…?

[@jasonreisinger4959]

Have you figured out the USB camera issue on cMP 5.1? FaceTime isn't working in Sequoia. That's the only issue I've found.

[@3litepker]

@@jasonreisinger4959 Did you manage to sort it out?

[@slabriprock5329]

Great information, thank you!

[@akegren5975]

Hi Jessie. Amazing video as always.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@akegren5975 thx! ☺️

[@jdub1922]

Great video, thanks!

[@Infinitrium]

I've got 3 'vintage' Macs running Sequoia. A late 2009 imac (core 2 duo) a mid 2011 imac (i5 2400s) and a mid 2012 mac mini (i5 3210m). The 2009 imac runs Sequoia fairly well but chokes watching youtube videos (without h264ify enabled) or if I've got more than 4 or 5 tabs open in Safari, even thought it has 12gb of ram. The 2011 imac runs Sequoia flawlessly but the practically non-working bluetooth and non-metal gpu (terascale HD6750) really let this thing down. My mac mini with 16gb ram and dual 500gb ssd's gets along in Sequoia pretty well but definitely feels a bit slower than my 2011 imac, the geekbench 6 scores prove it with the multicore score being almost half of what my 2011 imac gets (881 vs 1546). The mac mini has an edge though with proper metal support and working bluetooth

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Infinitrium thx for the info 👍

[@CamiloRestrepo-w3d]

Thank you for the info. I do have 2011 27 inch iMac, and I want to upgrade to ventura... since you try sequoia, I hope Ventura runs smooth.

[@CamiloRestrepo-w3d]

so for the 2011 iMac the bluetooth don't work? mmm that is bad for the keyboard and magic mouse... or you have a damaged BT card?

[@GiaQuarta]

Thank you Jessie, just to let you know I've just flawlessly upgraded my system running Sonoma 14.7 with OCLP 2.0.2 to Sequoia 15.0.1 through system preferences OTA update procedure. It was easy as usual and for now I haven't found any issue. My SYS Spec: - iMac 5k 27in late 2014 [iMac15,1] - Intel i7 Quad Core 4Ghz - AMD Radeon R9 M295X 4GB - RAM 32GB 1600 MHz DDR3 (self upgraded) - SSD hard drive (self upgraded, two SSD discs set as fusion drive) Discs: disk0 - APPLE SSD SM0128G - 121.33GB

[@JessiesFlying]

@@GiaQuarta thx for the info!

[@rimarzo]

once again, thanks for your amazing work!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@rimarzo ☺️

[@MaverickM1]

2011 iMac: install a metal capable quadro 3000m or similar with flashed bios and problem solved. I have mid 2011 iMac i7 3.4ghz 24gb ram and k3000m 2gb flashed Dell gpu, just installed Sonoma and since I am a music guy, installed Logic11 (which was mentioned by many users as glitchy on unsupported macs) and it works like charm. Probably the metal capable gpu helps and you somehow forget to mention that. You can easily upgrade those iMacs with metal capable gpu with the linux pendrive SSH method.

[@freddelrosario]

Jessie, when are you going to post a new video? OCLP 2.1.0 and Sequoia 15.1 have already been released. Would be good to know what you think about these updates.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@freddelrosario I’m drowning in work right now, but I’ll try to give an update soon

[@raver-um3iu]

Great video, thanks for your work. My 2cents from my experience with my devices: the 2015 MacBook Pro 15inch with the AMD R9 handles 4K well and my Mac Pro 5.1 runs also very well. Both machines run significantly better with Sequoia than Sonoma. 5.1 had graphical glitches on Ventura, got stuck in a bootloop in the installation of Sonoma, Sequoia just runs fine. Only thing is that the webcam isn’t working on the 5.1 (MacBook works) but I think that can be figured out. On Sonoma my MacBook never woke up correctly and didn‘t shut down at all. Sequoia also fixed all the troubles.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@raver-um3iu thx for the info!

[@jasonreisinger4959]

Have you figured out the USB camera issue on cMP 5.1? FaceTime isn't working in Sequoia. That's the only issue I've found.

[@raver-um3iu]

@@jasonreisinger4959 actually no, I downgraded to Sonoma and the camera worked and in the meantime I am back to Monterey on my MacPro 5.1 because I upgraded to a RX6800.

[@DrFiero]

The cheesegrater cold boot time is hugely affected by the amount of RAM! When I cranked mine up to 96gb from (16?) the time shot through the roof. Everything after that is awesome though.

[@williamlafrance2514]

Hi there ! You might wanna try different sticks at different places, my 2010 dual cpu was doing the same thing, I swap some sticks around and it boots (on nvme) quite fast now. cheers

[@DrFiero]

@@williamlafrance2514 - I'm running 3 in each side (dual Xeons), and pretty sure I stacked them in the right order. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it takes a LONG time to boot. Just that it takes LONGER to boot from when I only 16g's, so that factors in.

[@belmordok3661]

12:48 Solution: For those who are having a freezing issue with Chrome, wait for a few minutes, then select Chrome Menu > Preferences > System > Use graphic acceleration when available > OFF. Re-run Chrome and it works normally.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@belmordok3661 thx for the info! 🚀

[@PhG1961]

This is just a very awesome video!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@PhG1961 😊 sharing appreciated 😉

[@LeoAngeles-Murillo]

Installed Sequoia on my mid 2011 imac after I upgraded to the Max Ram and no issues. As long as I can work with Microsoft Office documents thats all that matters to me since I am planning to obtain a Mac Mini. It surely adds a few more years and it comes down to what one intends to use it for.

[@thebloopster]

Great Video Jessie - thank you for all your help so far. My 2013 Trash Can 3.5 GHz 6-Core Intel Xeon E5 with 64gb RAM and AMD FirePro D700 6 GB graphics is great on 15.0. I had the Chrome block colour issue for a few previous OS versions also but turned off graphic acceleration in Chrome settings and it is fine. Not seen any issues with 4K KZbin etc.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@thebloopster 👍

[@Aladinzc]

Thanks vor video. 🙏 I am so happy. I just got 15" 2012 MBP and it works so well and so fast on 15.1. Just trying to figure out AirDrop. For 80 bucks with 16 GB RAM it is steel.

[@wylhkg0212]

Do you test the USB with software RAID setting in 2014 MacBook Pro. seems it has problem on this OCLP

[@JessiesFlying]

@@wylhkg0212 nope, but ask on Discord if anyone has the same problem

[@danandlaundry]

8:57 what about macOS Monterey? How's that?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@danandlaundry what exactly? Chrome issue?

[@danandlaundry]

@@JessiesFlying ahhh ok so issue with chrome. Just wondering as you didn't mention Monterey when you didn't recommend Ventura sonoma or sequoia but you did recommend big sur

[@JessiesFlying]

@@danandlaundry I'm not quite sure if this Chrome issue also happens on Big Sur, but I don't think so...

[@fantasticprincipessa]

Wow! Thank you for all that work you do to test them! You mentioned that MacBook Air 2013 is on edge…. I have been working with it on Sonoma since it was out months ago, very well, and just recently started getting weird and super slow with three tabs open. Which one would be better? Big Sur? Thank you! ❤

[@JessiesFlying]

@@fantasticprincipessa I think Big Sur or Monterey should be better in that 2013 Air…

[@thehypnoticlforoom]

After updating to Sequoia I had a problem with my 2017 iMac 27 5K going nuts with the fan after startup. I found out it was due to an old external SSD (the lights on the drive was runnning crazy). Somehow the new system did not "like" that drive. As soon as disconnected the drive the fan issue stopped. Just to your info if others experince the fan issue too.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@thehypnoticlforoom thx for the info 👍

[@thehypnoticlforoom]

@@JessiesFlying And thanks for your awesome videos. They have helped me a lot :)

[@JessiesFlying]

@ you’re welcome ☺️

[@davide.saliba1302]

12:49 I had the same issue with macOS Sonoma on a 2013 Mac Pro, what happened is when I launched the app for the 1st time nothing happened, I used it like normal, and after I closed the app and turned off the Mac Pro it started to glitch like that, I couldn’t force quit the system at all so the best way I could get out is a force shutdown

[@dimakonstanta1868]

Wow, what a channel! Thanks for the real world tests. Subscribe.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@dimakonstanta1868 😬🚀

[@jos5067]

Thanks for the info ℹ️!

[@garyjene9146]

Dear Sir: I have a Macbook Pro 8,1 from early 2011. I replaced the battery and upgraded the ram from 8 to 16 gb and have High Sierra on a 512 gb hard drive and Sequioa 15.1 with the latest OCLP on an 256 gb SSD. While the maps app does not work with Sequioa I do not mind since I rarely use that but I can plug the other drive into a USB port and in this way I can dual boot. I did eventually find out that the Macbook Pro I have has a non metal gpu otherwise known as Sandy Bridge. Right now I am contemplating using a couple of different Linux OS on USB with this computer because of the Intel cpu. In this video it was sounding like Mac's older than 2012 will have trouble running Sequioa.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@garyjene9146 they do but there might be setups that work as yours for example

[@chazb8948]

Thank you for the video, that explains it, I will try Big Slur on an external hard drive, since is a little faster then internal drive.

[@ytgessle]

Great video as usual. Do you have video updating Sonoma to Sequoia ?

[@JessiesFlying]

Thx! Absolutely: Tips & Tricks to install macOS 15 Sequoia on UNSUPPORTED MACs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6mmkKN5opyjsKM

[@johandegroot3203]

Thanks a lot! Do you have a Logitech brio cam? I have audio, but no video.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@johandegroot3203 no I don’t. Maybe ask on Discord if anyone has the same?

[@jasonreisinger4959]

Jessie, your videos are incredibly helpful, so thank you!!! Can you confirm the USB webcam issue on cMP 5.1 (no video in FT)?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@jasonreisinger4959 thx! I’ve not tested that myself, but some users mentioned that. Maybe ask on Discord?

[@airbedruad]

I’m interested in knowing what the crash log stated on the 2011 iMac for the keynotes.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@airbedruad let me check that….

[@SelçukGS-g7g]

Thank you for a great video Jessie. I have a Macbook Pro 15inch from 2016 and would like to update to the latest Sequoia, would you recommend that? However I need the touchbar functionality and you recommend that I first make a "clean install" Ventura and later update it to Sequoia. What do you mean with "Clean install" and how do I do to update it to Sequoia? Thank you in advance.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@SelçukGS-g7g you cannot wipe the hard disk and install Sonoma or sequoia from scratch as there are no Touch Bar drivers. As long as you update from Ventura or older you’re fine - simply install OCLP latest version and either update from system update or download the installer via OCLP 👍

[@ghostangel5mm54]

I installed it on my iMAC 27 2013 everything is OK and my Hackintosh PC too....😅 BIG THANKS TO YOU !!!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@ghostangel5mm54 🚀 sharing appreciated 😬

[@GiaQuarta]

Hi Jessie, I just updated OTA my iMac 5k late 2014 to Sequoia 15.2 without any problem following your procedure as usual. I have just a little question: in the folder '/Library/Application Support/Dortania/MetallibSupportPkg' there are 4 folders of Metal Library Support Packages, one for each Sequoia version (15.0.1-24A348, 15.1-24B83,15.1.1-24B91 and the last 15.2-24C100). Almost 200MB each. Is it safe to remove the old folders and keep just the one related to the last update ? I usually do it with the KDK packages in '/Library/Developer/KDKs' keeping just the last one. Thank you in advance 🙂

[@JessiesFlying]

@@GiaQuarta yes, you can delete them. OCLP will download them if needed for root patching, so maybe keep the latest

[@PDS8000Eye]

And what do you think about MacOS Monterey on older Machines? (For example MacBook Pro 2011) . As good as Big Sure?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@PDS8000Eye as far as my experiences go: yes 👍

[@PDS8000Eye]

@ thank you for the quick answer!! 👍🏻😃

[@verablack3137]

My 2011 MacBook Air is already pretty slow on Monterey just barely passable, I couldn't imagine pushing it all the way to Sequoia. The upside is that it runs really well on Linux, and I don't just mean running Openbox or another window manager, it is snappy with full desktop environments like Cinnamon and KDE, though I turn off a bunch of animations and whatnot. There is enough extra horsepower under Linux to stream to the device so it was a very surreal experience to play Cyberpunk 2077 at a full 60 frames a second on max settings with a Dualshock 4 controller on my ancient MacBook Air with no noticeable delay despite using wifi for the stream and bluetooth for the controller. Sadly under MacOS no matter the version I try the screen just turns green when I try steam streaming and I get audio only no matter what settings I use. I really feel like if I had 8gb of ram MacOS and Linux performance would be alot closer, I really wish there were a way to upgrade it.

[@theyjustwantyourmoney4539]

Since Apple is stopping support on Ventura 2025 is it possible to get updates via OpenCore when I haven’t installed it with OpenCore ? 🤔

[@JessiesFlying]

@@theyjustwantyourmoney4539 you can download the latest version via OCLP as installer

[@Bully_911]

The settings indicate an available update. It says Sequoia 15.01 with an 'update' button visible and ready to click. The button is greyed out and doesn't respond when clicked. I'm perfectly happy with Sequoia 15.0 so not worried about it, was more interested in case any other users may have experienced a similar issue. My MBP is running 16gb of Ram. Thanks for all you do on this channel, I use it all the time and I appreciate all your efforts.

[@Bully_911]

All sorted! Just decided today to continue the update and all installed fine. 👍

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Bully_911 🚀

[@georgebadiu]

Hi Jessie, had the same problem with my beloved trash can (nuclear reactor for some of us) running Chrome. After at least one hour of digging the net, I found the solution - disable the hardware acceleration in Chrome, Settings, System and relaunch Chrome. My workaround was to install Chrome Canary (it's working somehow), open the Settings - System, then open the normal Chrome, and blindly open the same Settings, System and finally click (blindly again, but you can see the cursor changing) disable and relaunch. I had to make both windows exactly the same size on the screen, for "precision". Maybe is not the best solution, but it worked for me and I'm very happy with Chrome, as before. Didn't try to re-enable the hardware acceleration, might be working again(???). And for everybody's info, my D700s are feeling very well! Even when running games in Bootcamp. Thank you so much for all your effort in helping us with our old Apple stuff.

[@dkodentsev]

Not sure why, but my previous reply was auto-deleted :) Long story short - to avoid blind navigation you can run Chrom from macos shell using the following argument: --disable-gpu "$@" You still need to disable GPU acceleration in chrome setting to make the change permanent.

[@roberthancock813]

I see you tested the MacBook Pro 15" touchbar 13,3. A number of us find that there are iCloud login and iMessages crash and hang problems with the 13.x series. Did you check that? Sonoma 14.7 and earlier had no such problems. Since the issues were found with both OTA and clean USB installs, I wonder if your tip about installing Ventura first might fix this issue too. I'll try and feedback the result.

[@JessiesFlying]

Didn’t check that particularly, but did you ask on Discord? I’m curious about your feedback!

[@robfleming5588]

My MacBook Pro mid-2012 has an i5 Dual-Core, Intel HD Graphics 4000 536 MB, 16 GB 1333 Mhz DDR3. Apparently, the differences between the MacBook Pro 2012 you tested with i7 and more advanced graphics, and mine, is enough to cause problems by updating to Sdquoia with OpenCore-Patcher 2.2.1. One basic issue was the wallpaper not being displayed. I've not completed testing, but that one issue is unacceptable to me. Now I'm attempting to determine how to revert to an earlier MacOS version.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@robfleming5588 did you install the root patches? No wallpaper looks like no graphic drivers… and you might need KDK and PatcherLib as well installed before the root patches

[@Fullcowlingsmash]

Sir, I once updated my 2014 iMac to sequoia and it was bad everything was laggy I couldn’t fix it I had to wipe everything and reinstall macOS bigsur again I want to do another attempt but should I just do the latest version of Sonoma instead? Because my mistake was installing sequoia when it was brand new

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Fullcowlingsmash did you check if all root patches were installed correctly?

[@webg3brasil]

Hi Jessie. I have a MacBook Air 2012, working macOS Big Sur and Windows 11 24H2. Performance is very good from a hardware vintage. Thank you. Video is amazing.

[@MTN1601]

@@webg3brasil mine’s also 2012 air (4gb ram) with macos monterey. Works good, but some apps stutters alot like Musics app and sometimes the trackpad got unresponsive and I have to shutdown using the keyboard. If the trackpad problem is resolved, then the macbook air 2012 would be perfect (almost)

[@danandlaundry]

Wait so windows 11 runs good on your 2012 MacBook Air yet windows 10 on my 2015 iMac always gave me the blue screen of death every so often on boot up

[@webg3brasil]

@@MTN1601 I solved this problem here, (actually I didn't have it) with macOS Monterey. I'm using just one kext with OpenCore 1.0.2, if you want I can pass you my EFI and you can apply it to yours, I don't use another one because I changed the Wifi card (AirPort) to one from an Air 11" 2015.

[@webg3brasil]

@@danandlaundry disabled Turboboost, run amazing W11 24H2.

[@PLASDominicana]

Thank you for the informative video. Your insights have been incredibly helpful. I have a question regarding the upgrade process: I'm encountering an error when trying to upgrade my iMac from Catalina to Big Sur. (iMac 21.5-inch, Late 2012). I’ve read that it might not be compatible since my iMac has an HDD instead of an SSD. Can I still upgrade to Big Sur on an HDD, or is it not possible?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@PLASDominicana that’s no problem but quite slow. You need to install OpenCore and boot EFI boot, then it should update - see here: Easiest Tutorial to instal macOS Sonoma on UNSUPPORTED MACs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ7an5h8lL6meaM

[@PLASDominicana]

@@JessiesFlying Thank you very much!

[@snappy4368]

I would recommend, if you can afford it, to upgrade your SSD before upgrading. Mac OS systems newer than Catalina are not designed to run on hard drives, and are very slow, thanks to those systems only using the Apple File System. If you use this computer a lot, also would recommend you jump up to at least OS Ventura, as Big Sur has been out of support for awhile, which will make your app support very spotty, and can give you some security risks. If you don’t use the device so much, it should be fine.

[@marode2301]

...and me again ;) Jessie, I downloaded the 15.0.1 installer as well as the new matching(!) metallib package, which I installed first. After updating to Sequoia 15.0.1. I patched with OCLP 2.0.2 but it seemed to still use the metallib package for 15.0. So I deleted that from the Dortania directory and patched again. This time it used the correct and only one available on my machine. I wonder whether this was the correct procedure and if you can please tell us something about this next time i.e. if and when to delete the previous metallib packge, etc. Thank you so much for you extraordinary efforts.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@marode2301 that seems to be a patcher issue as it also takes loosely matching libraries - I tested it with the 15.0 and it’s also fine

[@gwardek86]

Just a silly question when you install sequoia on unsupported iMac. I have 2017 5k one once you are running sequoia will you get new system updates from Apple or you still need to hack it further??

[@JessiesFlying]

@@gwardek86 you can update as with a supported Mac, but you need to do the root patching after every update

[@sanaksanandan]

Mac mini 3,1 from 2009 working ! with Sequoia 15.0 and OCLP 2.0.2 . Then I updated OS to 15.0.1. wifi, bluetooth, usb all are working. Only for simple tasks like browsing, email, word processing etc.

[@thegamingtech3795]

Hello Jessie. I have a big problem. I am trying to update to 15.0.1. from 15.0 but it stucks on preparing update and 35 minutes left

[@JessiesFlying]

Sorry for the late reply. then download the installer via OCLP and use this instead of system update

[@thegamingtech3795]

@@JessiesFlying No Jessie Thanks. I have updated via system update.

[@alaaloll4832]

great job❤

[@troylollysaf9311]

Thank you Mr for testing for us! No macbook air 11inch models tho.

[@AndrewBashtovoy]

OCLP a great opportunity for vintage Apple computers, thanks for the inspiring video Jessi. I should add that after installing Seqouia 15.0.1 on my Macbook Pro 13” Early 2015, the battery drain is a bit faster. Probably the OS is optimized for Apple Silicon processor better than x86.

[@JessiesFlying]

might be, but after every update it's optimizing itself, so give it some time and check battery usage again

[@AndrewBashtovoy]

@@JessiesFlying Thank you, it really did get better after a while.

[@OPM_Viking]

The 2013 and 2014 MBAs works just fine when they have 8GB of ram... the i7 versions handle many tasks faster than 2015 13" MBPs because it pushes way less pixels with the non-retina display. That said the i5 versions are significantly more sluggish than the i7s. Another thing to remember is that the SSDs in the air are slower and there is a difference from 2013 to 2015, so for testing how they compare properly, you need to upgrade the air SSDs. An i7 MBA 2013 with a fast 4K NVME ssd can boot Sequoia to the login screen in less than 50 seconds.

[@OPM_Viking]

*Boot time is from the push of the power button - not the selector

[@JessiesFlying]

@@OPM_Viking I chose the OpenCore screen to prevent the automatic wait time to be included in the boot time. And the Mac Pro 2012 for instance has a way longer time until the OpenCore selector depending if a SSD or NVMe is installed

[@OPM_Viking]

@@JessiesFlying True. It can differ a lot. Boot time is also less affected by the drives than app startups. Cold start of apps and wake from sleep/hibernation are the ‘best’ metrics for real world disk snappiness tests 👍

[@americawalk1154]

I assumed 2015 MBA 11inch i7 8gb ram will run smoothly sequoia😢😢😢

[@OPM_Viking]

@@americawalk1154 It work, but be sure to run Opencore 2.1.2 so background media analysis is disabled.

[@faheembhaila8708]

Hi thank you for your video I recently used opencore legacy patcher and did a fresh install to macOS Sanoma on my late 2016 MacBook Pro with Touch Bar however the Touch Bar and Touch ID didn’t work I then followed your instruction and did an install of Ventura and my Touch Bar and ID are working. I really need keynote for work and now need macOS Sanoma to download it from the App Store when you mentioned we should update to retain the Touch Bar and Touch ID where should I update from? Should it just be an update from the system settings ?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@faheembhaila8708 either via system update or you download the installer via OCLP and start the update from Applications 👍

[@bluemaxcomputers2911]

Hi Jessie, great work here! Thank you...! A couple of nuances that could help people are the following. The 2014 & 2015 MacBool Pro A1398 have two main variants: 1. 2.2GHz, 2.5GHz or 2.8GHz quad i7 with Iris Pro 5200 integrated graphics as you tested and 2. Radeon R9 M370X option in the 2015 and GeForce GT 750M in the 2014 (2.5GHz or 2.8GHz both years, same quad core i7 CPU). Additionally, the 2014 models have NVMe PCIe 2.0 x 4 lane SSD expansion while the 2015 models have PCIe 3.0 x 4 lane SSD expansion (and will accept some PCIe 4.0 cards). So, a new third party SSD will greatly improve ALL of the load time benchmarks. I'm not sure Geekbench 6 will be much different overall, but some apps may really benefit from the dedicated GPU options. I will do some testing here (I'm typing this on a 2015 MBP 15" 2.2GHz with integrated graphics and Sequoia 15.01 with OCLP 2.02 and a 3rd party PCIe 3.0 x 4 SSD and everything works flawlessly). Then the 2016 & 2017 A1708 (2 Thunderbolt 3 ports) should also be tested separately since they also have an upgradeable SSD and no touch bar/T2. Both core i5 and core i7 versions.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@bluemaxcomputers2911 my wife already complains about all the Macs here… 😈🤣

[@bluemaxcomputers2911]

@@JessiesFlying LOL! I can relate to that...

[@bluemaxcomputers2911]

Lastly, the 2017 MacBook Air with 8GB and core i7 2.2GHz CPU are a good test case...this unit also has upgradeable PCIe 2.0 x 4 lane SSD that can be upgraded to a faster version (but limited to PCIe 2.0 speeds) than stock

[@faulypi]

I installed it on my early 2015 MacBook Pro 8GB. Had some issues during installation with disc space which apparently was linked to Time Machine backups. Once I deleted those, the install went smoothly. So far everything seems to work. My only concern is that the laptop is running warmer than before and the fan is running a lot more.

[@JessiesFlying]

@@faulypi give it some time to index after the update… ☝️

[@faulypi]

@@JessiesFlying Thanks. 24 hours later it's much better.

[@ItsMeSFSPlayerAndRoblox]

I have sleep and wake failure when using sonoma/sequoia. Basically, it sleeps the display and never responds again. The display somehow sleeps with its display shining bright. I saw 4 GB sonoma videos that run normally, so i took the risk and this is what i get. Wallpaper doesn’t load at all in sonoma. Sequoia shows a sequoia tree image but in safe mode, it doesn’t load. Why is the display is running but turned off?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@ItsMeSFSPlayerAndRoblox weird, maybe ask that on Discord…?

[@ItsMeSFSPlayerAndRoblox]

@@JessiesFlying I have a chance to get a m2 macbook air so i can finally toss out that slow mac.

[@sadeghghadri5755]

Hi there .👍thank you for your videos and clearly explanation👌 in each videos. By the way, I have an issue. With my iMac 2015 to run macOS sequoia 15.0.0. I don't know when I right click on finder or safari web browser 🤏sometimes unexpectedly closed those applications I don't know 🤔how to get done my problems. Please help me and how to do with this problem. I'm looking forward to your answer So the one way is I think the problem is from of keyboard or mouse, right click, left click or keyboard's shortcuts's?...🙏

[@JessiesFlying]

@@sadeghghadri5755 maybe ask that on Discord…?

[@andrezcabara2774]

I've just installed Ventura (13.7.1) using OCLP 2.1.2 on my late 2013 iMac on an external USB3 SSD. Works pretty well, I'm typing on it right now. Unfortunately my Zoom TAC-8 Thunderbolt 2 audio interface does not work. "System Report" shows it's connected; however, but it's blinking and I cannot select it as an audio interface. It does work just fine under Catalina. Any idea what this could be? Could it be that OCLP does not support Thunderbolt 2 on Ventura? Thanks. Oh, connecting my iPhone SE doesn't seem to be recognized in Finder. Those two issues pretty much make this a no-go for me... I was initially happy getting the latest version of Garageband working...

[@JessiesFlying]

@@andrezcabara2774 there might be no Thunderbolt 2 drivers anymore in the macOS and I’m not sure if OCLP reintegrated them. Maybe ask on Discord if anyone has more info about that…?

[@Anonym12361]

Hi, I have a question, I have an MacBook Air early 2014 with sonoma and I want to buy a new Mac, and wanted to ask, if this is possible to get my data to the new Mac. And I if I have a new Mac if I can delete oclp

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Anonym12361 if it is synced with iCloud it’s safe. Otherwise you can do a backup via TimeMachine 👍

[@danielgartin-oh9ik]

I’ve got macOS Sequoia on my computer a 2017 MacBook Air, the only issue is it doesn’t like my USB C cable for my iPhone I’m connecting it via an adapter

[@tv175s3]

I really appreciated you do all this work, spending many hours and days, to bring us useful info how to upgrade our 'EOL' devices. I watched many of your video's, but I didn't recall that there was a video on upgrading an earlier install of MacOS where also OCLP was used. So what are the steps to upgrade i.e.Monterey to Sequoia? Can I just use the upgrade function of the MacOS, or is a complete new install necessary?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@tv175s3 yes, simply update via system settings (after having installed latest OCLP). Check my video here (I’m updating the Mac Pro): Tips & Tricks to install macOS 15 Sequoia on UNSUPPORTED MACs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/q6mmkKN5opyjsKM

[@Cairol58]

I have, amongst more older Macs, the MacBook Air 2013 variant with a Core i7 processor and 8 GB RAM. and SSD. I wonder if that could do the trick, looking forward to the test with the MacBook Pro 2012 and memory reduced to 4 GB. There is no need for me to upgrade from Sonoma to Sequoia I am happy the way these older Macs perform with OCLP, just curious to know ... Thanks for the extensive testing anyway, much appreciated . 😎

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Cairol58 will do soon!

[@AndrewBashtovoy]

Guys, I noticed that if you disable disk encryption, the fan is much less noisy and Sequoia OS runs even faster. Macbook Pro 13” early 2015.

[@JessiesFlying]

thx for the info!

[@JustinDavito]

I’m thinking the USB ports stopped working on a 2013 or 2015 MacBook Pro 15 inch -A1398. Not sure if it happened after Sonoma or Sequoia. But we lost WiFi access and trying to use a Ethernet cable to install the root patches to correct but the ports aren’t working. Any idea or suggestions?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@JustinDavito all ports? Try to put a USB 2.0 hub in between

[@jameswallace6249]

Jessie what is your favourite or most recommended unsupported Mac?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@jameswallace6249 Mac Pro 2012 👍🚀

[@comeacross728]

imessage automatic logout after log in on 2016 Macbook w.o touchbar (Mac 13.1) recent upgrade to 15.1, facebook does not work neither, login works but cannot make call or receive. plz advice

[@JessiesFlying]

@@comeacross728 root patches installed?

[@adamhutton4165]

Hi Jessie. Is there any advantage to resetting NVRAM/PRAM on an OCLP system and, if so, how do you do it? The traditional way unblessed my boot drive and I had to go through steps to recover.

[@JessiesFlying]

no need to do that if there are no problems...

[@gerdt.7106]

Great video. I have installed Sq (with OCP 2.0.2) on a Mac Book Air / Mid 2012 (Type 5.2, / 1,8 GHz -8GB RAM - 1,536 Intel HD Graphics 4000). It work. There is one item. The storage in only 250 GB. Will make it sense to upgrade to 1TB and with the Sq. software is there a change for installing SATA SSD or is it now possible to install NVME SSD?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@gerdt.7106 maybe ask that on Discord as I don’t have that model

[@marode2301]

With Sequoia (15.0 and 15.0.1) the only glitch I have on my 14,2 Mac (27" late 2013 - OCLP 2.0.2) is that "objects" such as Airtags in the Find My App don't get updated at all (devices and people work). On my iPhone (iOS 18.0.1) all fine. Jessi, do you have same issue on your 2013 MacBook Air? Impossible to say for me is this is a MacOS or OCLP issue...

[@JessiesFlying]

@@marode2301 let me check that, but maybe ask also on Discord…?

[@vitorsousa5951]

"The issue with Live Photos has disappeared, everything is back to normal!"

[@Usmanofficial321]

I have installed ventura or monterery in imac 2011 after root patch the screen display is not coming after appel logo please solve my problem

[@JessiesFlying]

@@Usmanofficial321 check this out: Update of macOS is stuck? Here is a solution! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nJm0aIaNnbeUobc

[@TheJohnBugatti]

I still wasn't able to figure out 😕 how to install oclp sequoia 15.2 on a MBP 2012 as it's asking for internet 🛜 connection while installing sequoia. As WiFi or ethernet isn't accessible at that time, installation is getting failed 😔

[@JessiesFlying]

@@TheJohnBugatti create a USB installer and copy MetalLib and KDK installer afterwards also on it to have it available after install. Then install sequoia from USB… Easiest Tutorial to instal macOS Sonoma on UNSUPPORTED MACs! kzbin.info/www/bejne/nZ7an5h8lL6meaM

[@enzotommasi6512]

hello I blindly installed the latest OCLP, and it bombed during the root patch because it couldn't patch the Bluetooth Mouse AMD Graphics as well as the wifi stuck with a black screen and terribly slow, don't know what to do next

[@JessiesFlying]

@@enzotommasi6512 what was the error message?

[@tatuanui]

Re: 2011 iMacs: I thought the 2011 iMac’s were basically unusable upgrading past High Sierra (with OCLP) without replacing the GPU with one that supports Metal (making them uneconomical and therefore write-offs)? I can live without Dynamic wallpaper and maps and even Safari. Most people just use (or can just use) Chrome for everything they do. Is there hope for my stockpile of 2011 27” iMacs after all? :) FYI they make great 2.5k monitors with the HDMI to LCD converters you can get (although still marginal economically).

[@JessiesFlying]

@@tatuanui I only had trouble with 2011 and macOS higher than Big Sur

[@Kyle-ur4mr]

The 2013 trashcan mac pro had the Chrome issue since Sonoma 14.6 I think. It does freeze but is not totally unusable. I usually have to quit all the chrome processes and wait a bit to get Chrome to work. The graphics acceleration setting in Chrome doesn't seem to make much of a difference. Once I have it working I make sure not to quit HAHA

[@dayataro]

Thank you for the detailed test! :) I'm using a MBP 2012 mid 13". i7 2.9Ghz, 16GB RAM, 250GB SSD. Sequoia is quite good. The battery is not so good but the run time on battery is the same as on Monterey.

[@JessiesFlying]

🚀

[@iHacker007]

I’m using the same MacBook Pro and cannot access or modify my iCloud account and iMessage isn’t working as well. Do you know what I did wrong, everything is installed using OpenCore Legacy Patcher 2.0.2 updated directly from Catalina 10.15.7 Thanks in advance for any tips

[@dayataro]

@@iHacker007 hmm. I’ve just checked iCloud and I could change settings in it.. My iMessages are working fine.

[@dayataro]

@@iHacker007 I’ve clean installed Monterey, and from Monterey I’ve updated the system to Sequioa. I’ve used Catalina only to create the installer.

[@iHacker007]

@@dayatarothank you for the reply, maybe will try that and update to Monterey first and after that to Sequoia, in macOS Catalina the iMessage didn’t work perfectly but at least worked but now with the sequoia update do not work at all.

[@TovaMaulana]

now i know, fresh install to Sequoia on my MBP 15" 2016 will cause touchbar (ESC gone, thanks to Pock for bring me back ESC btn ) and Touch id not working, now i want install ventura and then install updates to sonoma-sequoia thank you for your effort, Awesome! 🔥

[@1Williams]

I think you have to go back a version or two and updrades vs clean install... Firmware is lost or not included in the newer OS's.

[@TovaMaulana]

@@1Williams yes you right, my laptop working properly after i go back to ventura then install updates to sequia from software updates then.

[@AllLifeClothing]

@@TovaMaulana hello guys i have a MBP 2016 with touch bar its currently on Monterey 12.7.6 i wanna go on Sequioa but i don't want to lose my touch bar functions , how do i upgrade without losing the functions thanks for your help . my understanding is i would go on ventura first then to sequioa but need better explanation please

[@TovaMaulana]

@@AllLifeClothing Yes, you need to upgrade to Ventura first. After that, you can update to Sequoia using the Software Update feature. If you upgrade from Monterey → Ventura → Sequoia via Software Update, the Touch Bar and Touch ID will work properly. However, do not upgrade directly from Monterey to Sequoia or Sonoma, as these operating systems do not include the old firmware. You must upgrade to Ventura first, then proceed to Sequoia or Sonoma via Software Update.

[@AllLifeClothing]

​@@TovaMaulana thank you i did the updates last night exactly as shown and it worked i still have my touch bae and touch id functions and i am on the latest OS for mac

[@mcdjchandler]

Great video! Do you think an imac 2011 16gb w SSD with a metal capable nvidia k1100 would work in Ventura or Sonoma?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@mcdjchandler I would start with Monterey and if that works upgrade further

[@mcdjchandler]

@@JessiesFlying thanks for responding. Yes I will try Monterey first on our 2011 and 2012 iMac 27”s

[@DJGARRRY]

Hey is there away to reset NVRAM & SMC in Terminal on Macbook Pro when keyboard not responding please do a video on that.

[@JessiesFlying]

it should respond when you reboot and you can reset NVRAM then

[@DJGARRRY]

@@JessiesFlying its still not responding!!!

[@JessiesFlying]

@@DJGARRRY are you sure it’s not a hardware issue?

[@DJGARRRY]

@@JessiesFlying guess that’s the only thing left to try

[@tomnnamrettag]

do you have any idea how the 12 inch MacBook from 2017 with the i3 processor will run on Mac Sequoia?

[@JessiesFlying]

@@tomnnamrettag not specifically, but generally a 2017 model should be fine 👍