I Took Livescope Off My Boat for 30 Days - The Results Were SHOCKING!

[@LEE-rk1jc]

I like your old school videos. No FFS.

[@jasonrutherfordbassfishing]

Brother I used LiveScope from Panoptics through the LVS34. It completely wrecked my fishing. I took it off last November and have had one of the most epic bass fishing years I’ve had in over a decade by relying on the hard earned skills and knowledge I picked up over the last 35 years of hardcore fishing! I do miss it sometimes because its a truth box and will show you what your doing wrong or when to change something up because the fish are in a funky mood but man it really does detriment skill and gut instinct. I don’t know that I’ll ever put it on again!!

[@erwinkruger5440]

Maybe the bigger non FFS days were more favorable days than the other? I use my Side and Down scan to locate promising areas and to locate fish. Then use my Active Target Forward or Down to actually fish my location. It helps to see the reaction of the bass towards your lure and then try different techniques until you get bit. Awesome and very informative show you have, I learn a lot from your videos. Keep it up!!

[@Natureboy1607]

Hands down Johnny you are the best fishing channel on KZbin . Your knowledge of electronics and how to apply what ever you are using is 2nd to none . You prove that you don't have to have FFS . Tight lines !

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoy the videos!

[@matthewnoatch3598]

Something to point out here: He fished with FFS the first month, followed by no FFS the second month. Now I'm 100% sure that the FFS increased his catch rate, but I also know that bites are more frequent early in the summer and taper off as you go. So some of the difference could have come from a time effect. But overall, great experiment and great video!

[@donprescott9660]

I really appreciate the non- biased, equal time comparison. Good job!

[@charlesjohnson8805]

I'm sure there are people watching your channel who prefer the more traditional methods, and there are those who prefer FFS methods. It's such an awesome channel. I prefer the traditional methods. As you stated, it's a greater sense of accomplishment. I'm sure I'll learn more about FFS should you go with a mix of both, but I'll always favor the more traditional way. Thanks for what you do!

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoy the channel! I’m just going to focus on videos that interest me going forward and not worry if I’m using FFS or not.

[@richardgutierrez4621]

Johnny as a first time boat owner 6 years ago I learned how to use my electronics by watching your videos. I drive around looking for structure and way point them like you taught us to do. For this I greatly thank you. I think 360 which nobody mentions would aid in precise casts to your spots using conventional lures and not baby minnows like FFS.

[@tombishop470]

Im a m360 user and i think its really helpful for beginners and really for most. Its very useful since like you said you know where the structure is in relation to the boat.

[@OldMysticFantasist]

I vote for you continuing to mix it up. That helps those of us that don't have FFS to not only continue to improve our fishing without it, but also to continually asses whether or not it's personally worth the investment to get it. Thanks again for all the knowledge & experience you share freely.

[@cmcoleman66]

I like both, as a fan it’s not to fun watching someone watch a screen but I would like to learn it too see and understand how the fish set up on different structure, it has a place.

[@TWC6724]

I say keep doing what makes you happy Johnny. Thanks again.

[@FishtheMoment]

will do!

[@BobBohner4851]

I love that you’re following your stuff that’s FUN. that’s what life is about. Quality of life and family. I think the majority don’t have FFS but cause it’s the newest technology there’s interest there also. I would ask you what’s going to make it the most fun and challenging for you because people will enjoy your knowledge and excitement.

[@FishtheMoment]

Thank you! I’ve definitely had a lot more fun without FFS this past month and enjoy going to the lake more.

[@haywardsautomotive6156]

Pros use FFS in MLF BPT format b/c it's total weight whereas BASS is 5 best. Lure selection is different also plus season, water temp etc. FFS can be fun but also can drive you crazy when they chase your bait and don't hit it. Either way a day on the lake is always better than work!!

[@RhinoJoeOutdoors]

Every time someone takes FFS off their boat a Randy Blaukat gets a new set of wings.

[@allenfowler1794]

You took the words out of my mouth 😂

[@needmofishin5765]

That's the funniest thing I read all day

[@jasonrutherfordbassfishing]

You win the internet for the day 😂😂😂

[@KendallArnoldFishing]

That's the greatest thing I've ever read

[@nievesgeorge77]

😂

[@Fishboy68]

Thank you Jonny im right there with you fishing old school.Nice to see you utilizing the channel again.

[@DerekHale-m7s]

I live on Rayburn and have use Forward facing since it came out.On the water at least 2 days if not 3 or 4 every week. I am becoming more and more ocnvinced that large bass are becoming more sensative to forward facing pings. I can watch it on brushpile real time and watch them move off even as far out as 100 ft. I have started turning it off specifically for brushpile fishing for large bass, troll in slow from further out and know where the brushpile/structure is to throw to with ALL electronics off. YES.... ALL off. I have also seen fish moving off points and spots driving over them with down and side scan. My PB has been broken 3 times this year since I started doing this

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

Of course they are, duh, it's emitting frequencies they can detect as not natural, eventually they figure it out

[@Cbartlettbo]

Seen this a ton on Lanier/Chatuge/Hartwell too

[@Badkharma21]

i only use my FFS when fishing offshore in deep water. rest of the time, i'm targeting structure in shallower waters (morning and evening).

[@codycampbellfishing2007]

I have said since the beginning of the whole FFS debacle that I don’t care whether it gets banned or its kept I’m still going to fish recreationally and competitively regardless, and just adapt to it and I feel like that mindset really helps with just enjoying fishing in general

[@nybbhUSA]

That is the most mature and common sense thing I’ve saw about the subject of FFS.

[@ronknight779]

I'm enjoying both of your channels and their different formats. Appreciate all the work that you do weekly for us.

[@FishtheMoment]

Awesome, thank you!

[@sraul7658]

Spending a day, or even part of a day, on a beautiful body of water in a pretty comfortable watercraft doesn’t begin to match my definition of a “grind”, fish or no fish. Much more fun when they’re biting, of course, but just being able to get out there doesn’t exactly suck…

[@PeterWFishing]

amen!

[@BassAngular]

Awesome experiment and analysis. Now that Randy has a boat you guys should do the head to head matches again in the FFS non FFS format!

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@sbhiggs5]

Great idea. Would love to see that head to head competition.

[@JamesP29]

Yes 💯! ......let's get this done! A lot of fishermen would be curious about that!

[@darrellmedley6809]

Great analysis, Johnny.

[@deshoup1]

I'd love to see you use a mix of FFS and not. You are by far the best channel for teaching bass fishing. I know it is hard to be an expert at everything, but given you are the go-to source, it would be nice for your channel to have as much breadth as possible. Thanks for what you do...whatever you decide to do moving forward you are the best at instruction and I'm sure this channel will continue to thrive because of that.

[@gaylehodnett4057]

Thank you for this old school video.

[@MrJimmaguire]

I’d like to see more on ffs setup. I can't see my lure On my lowrance hds12. Not sure if it's the transducer angle. I get a great image.

[@bubbafarmer4867]

Your channel is one of the few that offers true teachable methods to become a better angler. Kudos; great channel. With that said, I far prefer you without FFS and continuing to educate us on how to become better natural off shore anglers.

[@FishtheMoment]

Thanks for the input! Glad you enjoy the videos.

[@goodmanfishing]

I fall into casting at everything as well. I agree with the assessment that it's obvious the number of fish, 3x, makes a huge difference. Dialing int that technique to better align with your old school techniques likely will make a huge difference. Just ensuring you are casting "at" the rock pile, brush pile, etc with the old school techniques should bring more fish and higher efficiency than without FFS

[@jayward8956]

Love the format of this video, Johnny!

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@BenHolliday1]

I use FFS to find cover as much as finding fish. I am a kayak fisherman so my ability to graph large areas of water are limited as compared to a bass boat. I find that the FFS helps me find brush piles much quicker and sometimes see some that my down scan and side scan don’t show.

[@BigJOutdoors]

Very interesting! Another factor influencing the average may be that you fished each method in two different months? You control for that by alternating with/without FFS each trip. Also may find that the difference is purely by chance.

[@FishtheMoment]

Very true. This was definitely not a perfect experiment, but I still think I learned something from the process.

[@johnnieanderson9378]

Thank you for the non-ffs part of video. I can’t afford ffs but I do have 2D, down and side scan. Great content! Thanks

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@jamesvircik2865]

Johnny, thank you awesome as always, yeah I don’t have the patience to use the stuff I bought. I’m happy just casting no way I can graph for four hours lol got a helix 7 Lakemaster chip on the console and 126 Spotlight on the front and I’m done. I only use it half the time anyway maybe lol good luck, buddy.

[@glenncivale6824]

I tend to agree with the appreciation of catching fish via the surprise element techniques )old school). However, I have a livescope and almost always run it as a primary sonar unit. I think you will always learn new things about it by leaving it on. Other reasons are, finding bait and eliminating unproductive water. Years ago, we'd spend hours fishing our favorite wind blown banks etc and now when there's no bait can see why we're not getting bit. Live is a great learning tool but I think it sets a poor example of what angling should be about. The surprise element!

[@jackdixon4530]

Great Video! Keep it up!!!!

[@shakeyhead0079]

Jonny we all know you’re a hammer. If you have time I’m curious to see how you do with no electronics and compare results against FF and 2D.

[@bassdojo]

Bassmaster and MLF leadership need to watch this!

[@vanschwendimann5228]

FFS is the future, all young anglers will be adept at using it, and be more devoted anglers because of it. Only old fishermen are anti FFS and people who can afford the added expense of purchasing the technology My young grandson, 25 years, is much more enthralled with bass fishing now that it is available on his dad's boat. Before he was less enthused with bass fishing. I'm 73 years old, and I truly enjoy the challenge of using FFS.

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

First of all, not only older people are opposed to it, second of all your grandson was less enthused about bass fishing before ffs because he sucks at bass fishing

[@Tomwolverton]

great video , gonna share it great experiment

[@stevoky]

I enjoy FFS, but I can't force myself to use it in many situations that I probably should. I see people complaining about it, and it's not as easy as people think. At least for quality bass.

[@carltonswinford8141]

Most people don’t have the time to graph for 4 or 5 hours I would prefer that you used f f so we could learn more about it and I would be considered a old man

[@MostlyHumanPowered]

The piece of data that's most important is that you enjoyed not using FFS more.

[@FunkE.Fisherman]

Johnny getting them guns son! 💪 💪

[@billmiller6438]

Old school fishing is definitely more satisfying. Just curious, how often do you use your 360? I would love to hear your thoughts and maybe a video on it. Thank you

[@codybertram6122]

Partially has to do with the strength of those sonars. The bigguns know better and can feel it in their lateral line. There’s things you can learn with ffs and a lot you can learn without. I’ve noticed ice fishing that the weaker the sonar signal the less finicky or scared the fish are. I run an old school vexilar with an s-cable to cut the power down and it helps a lot. I’ve out fished people with livescope and it makes more of a difference in smaller bodies of water and shallow. Plus ffs sonar won’t shoot through the weeds like a vexilar but is better around wood cover.

[@DerekHale-m7s]

Havin g said that I do still rely on FFS just like side scan in search mode

[@joshuagibson2520]

No competition for wild game. Of any kind, not just fish . We need to put an end to tourney fishing.

[@MikeB-1965]

Very interesting findings!

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoyed

[@tombishop470]

Eh i dunno, since you were a technolgy guy coming up with side/down I was hoping you would continue with the tech side. Seems to be a lot of non ffs fans and thats fine but I don't see anyone saying to take side/down away and go back to flashers. Technology is going to continue, ffs allows someone to be more productive if they know how to use it effectively. Pretty sure a new fisherman using ffs is still going to struggle, the pros make it look easy but its not that easy for most folks. I will say notany are going to want to graph for 3+ hours before getting their line wet, they call it fishing not graphing, something to think about. Enjoy your content, im going back and watching your older videos.

[@KissmyBasss]

It's easy to get distracted w/ ffs and then leave a spot too soon. But in my lake, I used to get zeroed before ffs.

[@JessePatasomcit]

It’s been years since I’ve viewed a video of yours. ( now that I’m back into a boat) Anyways I see you’re married congratulations!

[@krum81]

The Data is super interesting

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoyed!

[@ryanvarner6520]

I'd like to see you split your day to 1/2 FFS / and 1/2 traditional methods. Thanks!!

[@jackbyers3921]

I’m interested what were your daily best 5 totals? Not the average over 4 days. I think this gives a better comparison of how much FFS has impacted single and multiple day tournaments

[@FishtheMoment]

FFS Trips in pounds: 1 - 17.5 2 - 13.5 3 - 12 4 - 11 Non-FSS Trips in pounds: 1 - 11 2 - 15 3 - 16.5 4 - 18

[@David-qo7lz]

I’m still convinced FFS has ruined my favorite local lakes (2000 acre size). Where i used to catch 2-3lbers, I now catch 1 lbers. When FFS became popular the big tournament bass went from 6-8lbers to 10-12lbers. Now, the big bass, the past two years have dropped to 4-5lbers.

[@FishtheMoment]

I've seen it happen on some of my small lakes as well. Interesting to see if this trend is seen on a larger scale in the future

[@David-qo7lz]

@@FishtheMoment I think it will be a decade or more before we see what impact it has on the big lakes. Small lakes are easily impacted by pressure.

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

I mean, let's be honest, it was inevitable

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

​@@David-qo7lzGrenada has lowered its crappie creel limits mainly due to ffs

[@richardjohnson6695]

Go big or go home has always been the deal for winning tournaments. A small limit just doesn’t get it done and hasn’t for decades now. FFS is tricking folks into fishing small because it’s easier to manipulate a micro jig in the strike zone but your research has proven the old statement to still be true.

[@1dt1971]

I'm curious what lake you are fishing in this video.......

[@FishtheMoment]

Beaver Lake in Arkansas

[@RAndAGaming1585]

I recently bought a bass tracker 2018 classic xl. I have been considering either putting a lvs 34 or lvs 32 on the boat. I have been fishing now for about 5 months and recently because of the dog days really struggling to catch fish. Does anyone have any input for me?

[@donpreller484]

I think you need to learn seasonal patterns, how to use your electronics mapping etc to find good structure and learn to catch fish that way. Then think about getting ffs.its like building a house without a foundation. Summer can be tough regardless and ffs is not a magic bullet.

[@kellymoore4517]

Be patient, it will pass.

[@MrBigDaddyUSA]

So....if the stats held, a MLF CWR event would be best fished with FFS (kinda proven by RedCrest this year) while a Bassmaster Elite event would be better without. But alas, it doesnt work that way.

[@ceciljohnson5997]

So, im in the market for new electronics. If i go non-ffs, and 1 unit on the console and one on the bow, what units would you recommend now in 2024?

[@FishtheMoment]

The Lowrance HDS Pro if you’re in the market for the best overall graphing unit at the console or the Lowrance Elite FS for the best value and still great imaging. I would get an elite FS for the bow if you’re just using mapping, but the HDS Pro if you want FFS.

[@ceciljohnson5997]

Thank You ​@@FishtheMoment

[@ceciljohnson5997]

​@FishtheMoment are these the best for side imaging and down imaging as well?

[@kelvinyu339]

FFS technology is here to stay and going to improve moreso. Those who can adapt it to their advantage will leave the old schoolers way behind.

[@dustinlind8355]

Randy is screaming “see you caught more”….but ignoring the data saying he should be catching bigger bass lol

[@timg185]

Most of the pros that are good with it can tell small fish from big fish. Do they don’t cast to the small ones .

[@Tom_Tahmas]

People really dont know how good randy really is. The dude finished top 20 in both divisions he fished this year. Might not be the elite series but some would argue the bfls and tackle warehouse divisions are tougher than the bpt and elite series bc the number of people you have to compete against.

[@Boethius411]

See I have the opposite experience, especially if I’m by myself. Once I learned to use it stopped casting at fish unless I thought was a trophy size fish. It kinda made me reevaluate everything when I realized I wasn’t satisfied catching 4lbers. My issue is that I know I am wasting time on more junk fish.

[@FishtheMoment]

I'm not a fan of targeting individual bass on FFS so I've avoided learning and using this strategy in the past. It's definitely the best way to catch big ones, I just don't enjoy doing it.

[@Boethius411]

@@FishtheMoment my hero dad kind of drilled it into me growing up that one bite could make a trip… if it is the right bite. I’m very comfortable fishing for that one or just a few big bites. It served me well in tournaments too at times, especially in buddy tournaments. Probably one of your heroes, Timmy Horton was my best friend and first not my dad fishing partner growing up. We were fishing local tournaments when someone else still had to drag us to the lake. Lol I can’t say how many times we won even as kids because I caught one or a couple of kickers and he filled out our limit. It was part of our strategy. Some great memories were made for sure.

[@mattcampbell3876]

Did you notice yourself transitioning back to a man the longer your cheater box was off the boat?

[@FishtheMoment]

Now that you mention it….😂

[@TheJizzypickle]

Livescope raises estrogen levels in men

[@WorldsOkayestBusDriver]

I bought a FishFinder years ago. It was just a sonar & did not have sidescan. I found myself staring at it and not looking around. I missed the birds diving at baitfish. I missed the bass jumping in the shallows. The schools of minnows swimming. I started to use it just for depth and temperature and my enjoyment of fishing went up and my catch rate went up 🤷‍♂️. Now I have sidescan because everyone kept preaching fish are only in 10% of the water. I was told that you have to find the fish to catch the fish. 🤷‍♂️ Now I spend hours mapping and scanning and minutes casting. I can’t figure out a happy medium, but FFS is NOT it

[@yeekasignaturehookset8088]

The mix would be cool…

[@btv1676]

You're comparing two different months Can you go back to your archives and check the same month for the previous year? I don't know about you but for where I am July versus August is a huge difference in a fish behavior

[@btv1676]

Also. It would be interesting for you to take all of your electronics off for a month and go fishing. For some reason there seems to be a bunch of people out there that are totally against using forward facing sonar. They think it's a cheat. Put 2D and side scan are also cheats if you think about it. So is spotlock. Yeah be interesting to compare a month of fishing without any electronics and no spotlock.

[@btv1676]

And no polarized sunglasses

[@RCSTILE]

This video simply proves what a disaster FFS has been to fishing in general. It eliminates the need to gain knowledge of fish behavior to be successful. Now all you simply need to do is scan the water column until you see fish in an area and cast to them and that has nothing to do with the SPORT of fishing.

[@FishtheMoment]

FFS does feel like that for me most of the time now. It was fun to use when I first got it, but the initial shine has worn off and I’m having a lot more fun without it right now.

[@petejablowski2123]

I like having it on my boat . I won’t fish smallmouth without it .

[@darrellgrant7615]

@@petejablowski2123because you obviously suck at fishing. Proved his point.

[@marina-Steve]

You are 100% correct

[@FindingAdventure]

But then that means it’s not a problem, and doesn’t make heros out of zeros. Funny how we’ll all come around to that conclusion after years of heated debate

[@fishinjoe9848]

FFS has taken all the knowledge of fishing out of the game. Easy peasy. Love the guys that get off on thinking their good. So laughable. It's basically technology for someone that doesn't know how to grind it out and catch fish. They might get angry but who cares.

[@FishtheMoment]

It's definitely more of a grind without it haha

[@erniebrightfishing]

Well, I'd trade numbers for size any day myself. And this "experiment" proves what mlf has shown is already. You might catch 50 fish a day with ffs but they're all dinks. Just like connell and wheeler do every time they go out. Just not for me. I'd rather be skunked with the opportunity to catch a big one versus cathing a bunch of small fish. If that's what I want to do I'll go fishing for bluegill.

[@fredflinstime6676]

so in final reality, the only even handed way to have fishing tournaments is to ban all electronics in tournaments.

[@Badkharma21]

i think you're the victim of target separation when using FFS. with regular sonar you focus more on structure and see the big marks more easily. the best way to account for this is to select a bunch of spots and assign your sonar treatment to each spot so that it is all balanced. in other words, targeting schools of fish is biased due to the difference in the technology you are using.

[@FishtheMoment]

If you watch my recent videos, you can see I get great target separation on my DownScan and 2D sonar views. Check out some of my past videos to better understand my process.

[@ballzybaits4414]

So your "max" intuitive fishing abilities got you less than using FFS? Meaning if on a pro level, a pro fisherman using their max fishing abilities vs a pro with their max fishing abilities + FFS = Pro w/FFS has a HUGE advantage gap. mind you, I suck at fishing so I have FFS on my boats. 😅

[@FishtheMoment]

Pretty much haha. That’s what we’ve seen at the pro level all year. And unfortunately, anglers with less intuitive fishing ability but great FSS skills can outfish great intuitive anglers.

[@paulgillett4844]

A good demonstration of how FFS takes the mystery and challenges out of fishing. With FFS, fisherman don't have to learn about fish, their habitat and pattern fishing. FFS makes tournament fishing into boring fish catching exhibitions! It's just not a challenge to catch fish that way...kinda cheating to use FFS in my opinion.

[@Bakamojo]

Man stops cheating and actually fishes for 30 days. Amazing. Honestly as a bank fisherman I can’t wait to see where this conversation goes as A.I makes its way into the boats. Eventually “pro” fisherman won’t even have to get off the couch to go fishing hah.

[@givemeabreakdoc]

Those who can’t fish, livescope. It is literal cheating.

[@bent_life9865]

Without some statistical math proving significance, which I haven’t practiced in years, I would doubt that 8 trips on the water is going to prove much here. Several assumptions could be drawn: the methods used without FFS are more likely to catch larger fish etc. It’s hard not to claim that FFS is more effective when 3x fish were caught; however, in the spirit of the above were all variables controlled? Almost invariably no, hence the necessity of many more days on the water to draw a real conclusion. I think we can all, probably safely assume, that the ability to know exactly where a fish is and how it behaves with the introduction of a lure by utilizing FFS is of low likelihood to reduce your efficiency. Perhaps use the same technique/baits with FFS to test your previous theory.

[@FishtheMoment]

I started the video off by stating this was not enough data to draw statistical significance and I also mentioned that I think I could catch more and bigger fish with FFS if I spent more time mastering it. The conclusion of this video is not: "I can catch bigger fishing without FFS". It's more along the lines of "I need to improve at targeting bigger fish with FFS."

[@bent_life9865]

@@FishtheMoment I was not disagreeing with you brother. Was responding to some other comments I saw. Besides that I am a random guy on KZbin who works in healthcare, and I’m not worthy to touch your fishing reel. But thank you for flattering me with respecting my opinion enough to make a response. And thank you for the content. Good stuff.

[@FishtheMoment]

@@bent_life9865no problem. I’m sure other people have the same thoughts so I wanted to respond to avoid any confusions in case I didn’t explain it well in the video.

[@TxCole]

Your channel has always been an incredible learning tool for me. Your channel was a breath of fresh air from all the clickbait FFS channels. Do what you do best, fish and teach. Distance yourself from Randy B and his clickbait propaganda channel. You are better than this.

[@FishtheMoment]

Glad you enjoy the videos!

[@WIDEawake419]

The disturbing fact is that nearly every pro tournament proves this data wrong.

[@slimdog7026]

And different conditions different day.

[@FishtheMoment]

Correct. I mentioned this in the video.

[@timg185]

Lake Champlain was won with a jig . Several other tournaments were won without ffs this year. Or at least not what we consider scoping . Jig and minnow or drop shot. So I’m a little undecided how how I feel about it. Will the fish and the fisherman adapt ? I’m not sure we really know yet.

[@jmccOutdoors]

Not really because they’re primarily only using FFS.

[@WIDEawake419]

@@jmccOutdoors there are plenty doing it old school, the right way!

[@rawhide3985]

So one month you fished with it and one month you fished without it. My question is is what is the weather patterns between the two months. Did you catch all of the forward facing sonar fish in May and then June was the no forward faces seminar. You didn't tell us anything about the months that you fished. Your experiment I don't mean to be mean doesn't mean anything to me without knowing the months that you finished the weather this that and the other.

[@johnniemalone5141]

No FFS.

[@jordanp.2558]

The fact that you fished 8 hours without ffs and only caught 7 fish should prove everything

[@FishtheMoment]

This is pretty normal when fishing for better quality fishing without FFS. Similar to fishing a big jig or spinnerbait up shallow. You're only fishing 5 - 8 bites all day in a tournament situation because they are likely to be larger bass.

[@jordanp.2558]

@@FishtheMoment you have way more patience than me man

[@bobwhite9670]

​@@jordanp.2558quality over quantity

[@poststalone1496]

​@@FishtheMomentthat's not true. You fill your bag then go find those 5-8 bass unless you're gambling.

[@FishtheMoment]

@@poststalone1496it depends on the lake and fishing pressure. Before FFS, there were a lot of guys that brought in 4 fish in tournaments that weighed 15-20lbs and were one fish short of their limit because they were focused on larger fish. And a lot of the guys who bring in 5 may have only caught 7 bass all day. It’s even more apparent when watching live coverage before FFS.

[@rickvann3489]

To small of a sample and not enough wide range of body of waters.

[@JasonBrown-es5yw]

There you have it folks. The verdict is in. 3x more fish. Because- of coarse that's what happens. To argue anything other than that is asinine. But that's not even the biggest issue. The issue is- using this garbage completely removes you from the art of "angling". Get it off the water!

[@larrydavis6141]

Randy is not gonna like this video lol

[@Jessica37323]

The real question is...are you fishing the same body of water that you know very well, with way points all ready marked? If so all that data is inaccurate. Try a body of water you haven't fished before. One day with FFS and one day without FFS at totally different spots, then, you have true data. Also go 6 weeks apart for the test.

[@FishtheMoment]

Interestingly, I fished on lakes I knew well, but hadn't fished in almost a year. I also caught all of my fish for this analysis on areas I've never fished before so I think the data is pretty realistic to fishing without having spots found ahead of time.

[@Crankinstien]

First time I’ve watched your channel since you became a live scope user. I liked the videos before you started cheating

[@FishtheMoment]

You'll love my last 4 videos without Livescope then

[@kmcgarrh]

First

[@aaronbyers1391]

Sad that your “experiment” is the reality for most fishermen. It’s what we do every time we go fishing. Such a disconnect.

[@the_bait_shop]

I've caught thousands of fish over the years. . . all without electronics. None. . Ever. bet there are a few more out there like me that could give anyone a run for their money in a tournament , with NO electronics. Fishing is not about using electronics. . learn to fish, instead of learning to play a video game.

[@singletrackmarc819]

Sounds good lol. I've been fishing my whole life with no electronics and catch fish as well but there's not a chance you can compete with no electronics at all. Maybe on a lucky day but that's like saying a blind person can color in the lines just as good as someone who can see

[@tabstiles6890]

FFS SHOULD BE BANNED!

[@Tightlinenation]

Don’t let miserable Randy to influence you. Ever since I heard him say the co angler basically wasn’t aloud to fish. His very selfish outlook with just a miserable take on FFS. Fish use whatever you want.

[@dylanjones461]

2nd view 😂

[@douglaswisdom]

FFS should be band from tournament fishing!! Also the use of guide information as the pros are SUPPOSED to be the foremost authority on bass fishing. Just my thoughts!!

[@TimL-bk3cx]

Send this clip to Randy the Karen! A Washed up pro if u don’t know who I am talking about ! That doesn’t even own a boat!

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

Nobody cares about that dude even though he's correct, ffs is bad for fishing in general

[@1227-h7o]

My vote is for you to primarily do traditional electronics technique videos. Your past traditional techniques videos are the best on KZbin. Unfortunately,FFS greatly diminishes the value of your past teachings I have been on boats with FFS, it is more efficient but it’s far less enjoyable. FFS limits the number of baits, techniques, and strategies necessary to catch fish. I watch KZbin because I enjoy learning about different techniques, baits, structure and strategies

[@wolfman3284]

lol this is not how you conduct a study. So many things wrong.

[@haroldsfishingadventures754]

Dude, it's a guy on KZbin, lmao

[@MrAlley32]

Personally, I think staring at a screen all day would get old. If I have to do that to win a bass tournament, then I won’t fish bass tournaments.