I Want To Stage An Intervention For My Delusional Daughter r/Relationships

[@fallingawayfromthenorm]

I feel so damn bad for the kids raised by Sad Beige Moms. Especially the ones who have Twilight level names, OP’s daughter is really out here pulling some Reneseme nonsense. OP’s daughter is someone who should never have kids, people have little value for her unless they’re giving her attention on the internet, everyone else is just a prop for her to use to get followers and be content fodder. Edit after update: OH GOD NO SHE LITERALLY EVEN ADMITTED IT WAS INSPIRED BY TWILIGHT.

[@babybluehashyo]

I'm cackling at this edit... 😂

[@YellaBellaReno]

Reneseme feels like Jessica, relative to what OP’s daughter was proposing. 😂

[@vanguardangel6912]

I’m just waiting for the kids to hit the terrible 2s and start becoming more independent. I’ve never rooted for crayon drawings on the wall so much in my life

[@KarlAndArma4ever]

FunkyFrogBait made a short from the perspective of an adult who was raised by a Sad Beige Mom. Starts off relatively light-hearted, but the ending is kind of a gut-punch. Saddest part - that's probably the best-case scenario for these kids' futures.

[@evavocative6975]

Twilight was the WORST INFLUENCE for baby names of the younger generations. 😂

[@YellaBellaReno]

Not being able to put a glass down in your own home without being attacked isn’t “borderline abuse”, it IS abuse.

[@beccaf262]

Exactly this. Verbal abuse is abuse.

[@marshawargo7238]

She might say "I see your point & agree I've gone too far down the hole" now, but I don't think she has! She said what they wanted to hear & she might try to be better at first, But I'm betting it won't be long before she's down that hole again! I am subscribed to two channels who don't post anything anymore because one had a baby & the other had two grade school kids. Neither wanted the kids on social media at all & it was getting too hard to keep it separate! As Bad as this daughter is, it's going to be Hard to trim back, it's her Whole Personality😢!

[@rhiannonlewis7963]

They say it’s borderline abuse, because it’s a man that’s being abused. But if it was a woman, being abused, they wouldn’t have added borderline.

[@YellaBellaReno]

@@rhiannonlewis7963 yeah. That’s the unfortunate repercussion of men suppressing and abusing women, as the standard, for thousands of years. Now, toxic masculinity bites us all on the ass. It’s only been 100 years since women could vote, so it makes sense that it will take some time for those generational wounds to heal, but goodness… do I ever wish we could hurry up and get to the point where we all free from the shackles of our forefathers’ mistakes. Abuse is abuse, no matter how many holes you have.

[@rhiannonlewis7963]

@@YellaBellaReno girl what? You went on a whole ass tangent for no reason. It’s not borderline abuse, it’s abuse. They only say it’s borderline because it’s a man being abused and they don’t think men can be abused, women also think that so it’s not toxic masculinity

[@nwilady1867]

Story 2. She didn't go for the kids. She went for her own nosey arse and used her kids.

[@ladyv5655]

And she is practically gift wrapping her kids and handing them to an old man who abused his own children so badly that his daughter is still in therapy years later.

[@sgm8265]

@@ladyv5655 One doesn't need to ask what happened to SIL to understand their need for absolute nc. And to tell her children grandpa was "mean" to dad? But use abusive elsewhere in the post. She knew all along she was wrong.

[@Marstic666]

I hope the second OP's soon to be ex takes a photo of her shocked pickachu face when he gives her divorce and custody papers. Also "we WILL be a family and he WILL come back".... Dude went from frying pan to fire. He tried to lose one abuser and gained another.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

This. Her just declaring that he'll come back and deal with her abuse when he never said anything about it is really cr^ppy of her. She's basically saying 'they'll get over it'. She didn't just put the kids at risk once either. Think about it. She had to have been talking to the granddad for awhile to set up that meeting. Probably giving him updates about the husband, SIL, and kids for months too.

[@miminana-hd6nf]

@@untitled-gv3qp yes, but the manipulation of the kids, for possibly years, to implant the seed that they needed to meet grandpa is over the top. That kind of manipulation is abuse. Those kids should have never known that grandpa existed. OP is a psychopath.

[@pippo17173]

@@untitled-gv3qp Ya no way she is isn't telling the truth about being cut contact on husband FIL. However I will say this, Ex husband main mistake is not being honest about this from the start. You don't hide this from you marriage at all and should of been shut down as soon as possible.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

@@pippo17173 He didn't hide it. He told the OP that he was no contact with his dad, he told her he was in therapy since childhood for it, and the OP knew that there was a s**c*d* related to the abuse. It's even arguable that he told her more about it since she had enough info to explain it to the kids in detail after the fact. You don't need to have every gritty detail of someone's life to respect their wishes and not force a relationship with someone that him and his sister have PTSD because of.

[@aduckofsomesort]

The children “deserve“ to meet an abusive man? WTF

[@kaykay8855]

It’s the sunk cost fallacy of ‘an abusive father is better than no father.’ It’s stupid.

[@GBunnyG]

bUt tHeY kePT asKInG. They ask for ice cream for breakfast, too. What an absolute stupid cow.

[@miminana-hd6nf]

All I could think was how the hell did the kids learn about "abusive" grandpa, and how they had a right to meet him? Of course, it was, delusional, OP who put the idea in their heads and kept reinforcing it, to meet her own deluded needs. This was all about OP wanting to meet "abusive" grandpa and she used the kids as pawns in her vicious scheme. Every. single, time. one of those kids asked their father, or aunt, about "abusive" grandpa it opened the wounds again. Every, single. time. OP abused her kids by planting that seed in their minds. They were all, more than, old enough to understand why they could not meet grandpa. Oh, wait, they never should have ever known grandpa existed. OP's husband needs to file for divorce and go for full custody. There is no coming back from this kind of betrayal.

[@Davtwan]

Not to mention that no one, especially OP, told them that grandpa was abusive. (I have a feeling her explanation was purposefully vague.) FFS, one of them was *EIGHTEEN.* They’re old enough to understand how terrible their grandfather was and why they should respect his father’s wishes. But nooo, OP wanted to learn more. Hearing how grandma passed on was _all_ OP needed to know and should be glad she even got to hear that much at all. End of. Just deplorable behavior from OP.

[@kaykay8855]

@@Davtwan I managed to find her og post and read her comments, from her attitude she’s upset that she didn’t get a complete picture perfect family with both sets of grandparents. She remarks at every family gathering, she’s low key hates that only it’s mostly her husband and sister in the sea of her extended family.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Connor found out about the secret message Markee put in the previous video detailing the location of where he’s being held captive and promptly deleted and edited the video before reuploading. Unfortunately, Markee will be severely punished for this transgression.

[@Akemi.24-45]

🤣🤣🤣

[@boneymeroney2674]

Creepy AF. 😂 Funny, but Creepy. 😂

[@joycec8]

Noooo, Markee! We're coming to save you! ((How much is a flight to Australia? THAT much?)) Okay, hang in there some more, Markee!

[@aidenmartin6674]

That sounds terrible. Someone should do something. >Starts watching another video

[@sourpatchbaby274]

​@@aidenmartin6674 At this point watching more videos is likely to get Markee more free time and quite possibly more food. We should all watch more videos 😊

[@franciebelcher4594]

Ugh! I can't stand the "but family" ppl! I had a fiancé whose ex wife was an abusive drug addict and she regularly abused his son. Fiancé refused to do anything and often said"but she's his mother". Visiting his mother always put the poor kid into a sad mental state. It was awful. OP is the AH of all AHs

[@franciebelcher4594]

@@LostSoulchild89 me too. I still think of that little boy. Of course, I left the fiancé. I grew up knowing parental abuse well, and could not, WOULD NOT, stay in with such a cowardly partner.

[@eldeano9964]

Story 2: Jesus fucking christ, the sheer narcissism to believe that the fantasy of a hallmark movie reconciliation, overrules other people's trauma, feelings, boundaries and reality itself. And to manipulate her own children to take the blame adds to that audacity. She only sat the kids down to explain the situation because of the aftermath, to make it seem that she's an actual human.

[@GaskyChan]

The OP in the second story fills me with rage. The absolute backstabbing on your partner on multiple level. She basically took her children to a face eating leopard. Those poor kids I hope nothing happen to them

[@untitled-gv3qp]

And would've kept doing it if she wasn't caught. Probably is still in contact with the granddad. And thank god she got caught because her next step would've been to either try and force a meeting with him for the SIL or husband, or worse, she'd get comfortable enough that he could convince her to leave the kids alone with him. The husband has been in therapy since he was 13 because of his dad! The granddad is very likely a p*d* and she took her kids to see him.

[@pippo17173]

Ya op is flat out terrible but husband kinda probably should of explain to the kids what grandpa is out of their lives. It would of somewhat prevented that.

[@vanzy01]

💯👍🏿

[@carolroberts4614]

He told his wife! Surely that should have been enough? Nobody in their right mind could have expected this outcome.

[@alsinakiria]

Those "but faaaamly" people just don't get that most people who SA a child are family. Bad people can be related to you. They see it as their right to abuse family members because they believe that they own them. They are not people. They are objects that exist only for their amusement.

[@nicholerubes2959]

Honestly I had been there as the kids. People are not just going to accept he is bad news without something to back it up. I would have never respected my mothers wishes not to meet her bio mom. Espically if she was alive after my first grandms (truthfully great) died. I would have run off to meet her and bring her back to our place too. If my mother had not told me why she was no contact. If all you ever known is happiness in your family. Then thats all you know. You cannot fathom a dark family. Simply because its not what you know. Husband needed to be more detailed as to why. So his family can truly understand and respect it.

[@paulineisme]

Rawbhynne is the most unhinged thing I've seen in a while

[@KadeStringer2.0]

It’s not unhinged

[@101Mant]

​@@KadeStringer2.0the whole thing is unhinged. Her inflicting matters more that the husband or kid.

[@madgevanness4011]

And “ raw bin “ meat market? Produce stand? Too much fodder for bullying.

[@damien678]

I seriously wonder how that spelling doesn't ruin her aesthetic

[@TiffWaffles]

Robin or Robyn is a beautiful name on its own. Rawbhynne is just stupid. OP's daughter is stupid.

[@djpanic7294]

The grandpa one. Like wtf?! My husband cut out his father and all he had to say was "I do not talk to him and do not want anything to do with him ever again" I said "ok, no problem" and I have respected that, and if his father were to ever reach out I wouldn't respond and block him. how dare op trample all over his boundaries like that.

[@ladyv5655]

Sounds like what the last OP will be like in 25 years.

[@benjie128]

Some people who grew up in healthy, functional families cannot fathom abusive households. All they need is the powerful touch of love and all will be right, and families can skip and frolic into the fields on a sunshiney day. Yeah, no.

[@miminana-hd6nf]

yes, also you don't tell your children that "abusive" grandpa exists because he doesn't, in the family dynamic. The betrayal/abuse by OP in that story is just over the top.

[@MrJpaynebb]

​@@miminana-hd6nfI disagree. They should know he exist and exactly why he is not part of the family. Kids are curious plus 23 and me is a thing and not going away. If you have a bad apple in the family (abuser, pedophile, hard core addict) the kids should know. It's better for you to control the narrative as long as possible while they are young. As for OP. She's not some 21yr old in a new relationship. This is her husband. A man she has known and been with for about 2 decades. She is a mom of 3. Her letting her curiosity and longing for "family" at her age and stage in life is inexcusable.

[@pippo17173]

​@MrJpaynebb ya husband flat out made the biggest mistake not informing them why he is not in their lives. Hopefully he won't make the same mistakes once he divorced and take the kids away.

[@Lestaticate]

Story 2 had me choking on my coffee. The level of delulu does not compare to the sad beige mom in the first story. Straight up dismissive of her husband and SIL’s abusive relationship with their father, breaking their trust, manipulating her children and outright putting her family in danger for the sake of satiating her own curiosity. How selfish and unhinged can a person be?! “But faaaaamilyyyy”. I hope her husband serves her and gets full custody.

[@lucyann1573]

Holy CRAP! My jaw fell open when she talked about how unfair it was to HER that her FIL isn't around. Using her children to bully their own father to be around his abuser...OP is a sick selfish individual and an AH

[@Girl-Supersonicboy]

Good lord s2 OP is mentally unwell. Just reading how SIL reacted whenever Grandpa was brought up makes me believe there was some SA abuse too. OP brought her kids before a hungry predator, and doesnt see it

[@ChrisAndCats]

That being the case, she absolutely should not have done it, but them refusing to even give a clue as to what happened really won't have helped any. Just banning something without giving more context - even in very general terms - isnt helpful as parenting is supposed to be a joint decision. He was making a unilateral ban in the first place, and in response in the absence of proper - even if generalised info - she also did the same and gave in to pressure from the kids. It also risks the kids going behind both their backs when they're older which could be way worse.

[@susankaempfer8427]

Seriously. All the excuses she came up with to ignore her husband. “But the kids really wanted to!” Your kids are old enough to understand abuse. Oh op, you suck sooooo bad. So, so bad.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

​@@ChrisAndCats You don't have to explain what the abuse was. The OP knew that the husband and SIL have extreme trauma because of that guy, that's all she needs to know. No ones going to wanna get into the details about something extremely painful like that. Especially when it also involves a sibling that doesn't want their past known. Considering the dad didn't talk about him it makes me certain that she's the one that pushed the kids to asking about the granddad.

[@MdMzzz]

@@ChrisAndCatsYou don't get to satisfy your morbid curiosity by making abuse victims relive their abuse, regardless of what relationship you're in with the victim. Common decency. Empathy. Understanding. Kindness. Does any of those ring a bell ? Or is your curiosity more important than someone's mental or even physical health ? What pressure from the kids ? I doubt the kids would even KNOW they had a grandfather if SHE didn't tell them in the first place. Funny how she forgot to mention that. She tried to use the kids in her manipulation scheme, which is even worse. And the fact that the kids can now go behind their back and meet the abuser is a direct consequence of her informing them of his existence. That's also on her.

[@jannekelind1220]

If he divorces his wife this will be a great reason for him to get full custody. Deliberate endangering your children. What a piece of work 😢

[@hilaryc3203]

#2 No, an abuser is not family. OP is delusional and she obsessed over a man who she knew was an abuser. She put her children at risk and has re-traumatized her husband and his sister. I can't even describe what she has done to them. In her adolescent/early teens my ex SIL was sexually abused by a relative and my ex FIL talked her out of pressing charges because "he's family" enough though the police had his admission of guilt. The lack of resolution, the betrayal of her father not to stand behind her, sent her spiralling into significant mental illness that she has never been able to recover from. OP needs to find a therapist to help her get to the root cause of her obsession.

[@nairbvel]

How much you wanna bet that the OP *caused* her kids to want to meet "Grampa" by talking about him, telling them how much of a shame it was they didn't know him, and all kinds of other really, REALLY stupid crap...? That whole "But faaaamilleeeee" thing needs to be excised. Considering how delusional she already seems to be, her being so sure that the marriage can be saved strikes me as unrealistic at best. She is truly a sick person and needs a LOT of therapy.

[@khaleesireyna731]

I'd take you up on that bet, but I know I'd lose money because 100% that's what she's doing. By 13, I didn't have any questions about why we didn't see much of one of my parents' parents. We just knew. They weren't pestering her out of the blue, she knows damn well she was putting it in their heads and she knew she'd get flamed even harder for it, so she made it sound like the kids just asked of their own accord. Not only is OP lacking empathy and just a nasty manipulative person, but she's a damn coward who can't even fully own up to her crap because she KNOWS how bad it actually is.

[@Sclasspsycho]

Story 3: As an ace who loves to give gifts to my friends, I would feel so bad if someone like OP attacked me for being friends with someone. Being on the autism spectrum also makes me doubt my social interactions.

[@liabowden8526]

Seriously, I was like, how dumb would op look/feel if she found out the Valentine friend was either ace or gay & just not ready to come out?! What a insecure pick me.

[@pazvega5895]

Yeah the friend is probably aroace. Thats the first that came to my mind. She can also be simple a late blommer and not feel ready for a relationship and a virgin because she doesnt want to fuck someone randomly.

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

I hear you, I grew up fundy. There were, like at least 2 girls for every guy where I went to church and I was a little oddball who found it hard to make friends and was always overlooked in the dating pool. My best friend gave me little Valentine's gifts every year... My first bf dropped me the day before Valentine's Day, I was 13, and I was 35 before I had a relationship that fell on that day... one dodgy af guy in my early 20s for a few weeks, I realised I attracted jerks and did some work on myself but that another story... (my new guy... he was awesome, I married him). On a day I felt so stupid, ugly and unloved... she was determined to make me like her favourite holiday and succeeded. I wish everyone had a friend like her because mental health-wise it can be a tough day for many people to get through. My bestie still gives Valentine's gifts, to all her friends (even the married ones) because she knows that not everyone who has a partner, actually feels loved on 'love day'... that's been commercialised to within an inch of its life. Ps I think OP conviently left out in the first part that BFs BFF gave lots of small gifts out and was being as dramatic as if she'd given him a bunch of red roses/thong flowers or something weirdly inappropriate for 'just a friend'... idk

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

​@@liabowden8526💯

[@judelbugsrutter6727]

@@liabowden8526 ikr 💯

[@Taizu314]

As someone named Robin, that spelling hurts my soul.

[@niyablake]

As a person not named Robin that still hurts my soul.

[@lkayh]

I like the name Robin, both for boys and girls. But yeah, that spelling is weird and precious (in a bad way). Not cool.

[@vanguardangel6912]

Considering Robin was not only my Aunt’s name but also the name of one of my favorite superhero (i stg DC, I will fight you on that take), it hurts my soul. Robin is such a pretty name.

[@MrJpaynebb]

Glad the intervention worked but also hope OP stays close to the SIL just in case this is go south. There's a grandchild involved and if staying close to SIL gives them access so be it.

[@damien678]

Can't believe that spelling doesn't ruin her "aesthetic" but her HUSBAND does

[@WhtAbtBob10]

Story 2: Major YTA. Sit the kids down and tell them the husband's dad is a bad man and that he hurt his kids. Its not that hard. F these people who think family is everything no matter what.

[@carlrood4457]

Note her reply, "I came here for the advice I was looking for" She wanted validation and didn't get it

[@RayvenLunaNite]

My spouse was abused by his grandpa growing up. I was abused by a stepmother. We both agreed on who our kids couldn't meet, and it stayed that way. Protect the children! Major YTA!! They have a gaping black hole for an asshole.

[@mikaq19]

In Finland there are laws that prevent parents from giving their children names that are offensive or would cause damage to the dignity of the child. I think it’s time other countries followed suit. This naming nonsense wasn’t an issue in the past, but given the way thinks are devolving today, it’s time to put an end to this sort of idiocy. Children should be protected from loonie parents.

[@SilverMKI]

I presume there was an issue with names in the past. Otherwise, it is hard to see how the law got on the books.

[@victormontes7007]

so did that law show up before or after creative names became a thing

[@linesandlindskrog5222]

Denmark has an approved names list. You have to ask for permission to name your child differently.

[@christinesinclair6938]

My sister is an OB nurse and, allegedly, she's heard of a mother naming her kids "Shi-they-ad" and "Gar-bay-a" but the catch? IT was spelled "Shithead" and "Garbage." She's also told me that she's heard tell of a pair of twins named Lemonjello and Orangejello (pronounced Leh-mahn-je-low and Or-ahng-je-low). So, yeah, we need laws to protect kids from assinine names.

[@ElleD308]

​@@christinesinclair6938 the worse is when they make real names their own way like "Saraahaa" or "Danhieellee" or "Jeshikah" 🤣😂 like STFU and give your child a normal name

[@wyvern723]

"He's family." As a survivir og parental abuse, every time I hear this, it is a stab through the heart.

[@novatryxward9372]

dude same, they always say "but your parents are family how could you treat them like that?" but they never say "thats your kid how could you treat your kid like that?" and then assume we as the child deserved it

[@dmikewilcox]

Valentine: When she said the friend kept giving him a Valentine every year, I had at least a bit of understanding how that could be upsetting to a young inexperienced adult. When she classified that the friend have Everyone a Valentine, but didn't think that was important to share at first, I knew she was a selfish and insecure child. I have my own cring moments like this, and she to will learn, but this was a cruel thing for her to do.

[@Zanzetihunter]

It is MAJORLY important. That detail. It takes it from "potentially in love with" to "it's just a thing." Everyone gets Valentine's presents. I give all my family and my close friends Valentine's presents too. Not the friend obliviously. But OP was an immature self conscious child.

[@Kimberly_Sparkles]

@@Zanzetihunter That's expensive!

[@MizzShortai]

She knew of the abuse and still has the audacity to said she felt it was unfair that she was kept away from this known abuser.? She might as well have said "i know my hubby claims abuse but its unfair to me that i cant meet this abuser and my feelings are more important than his.!" If hubby takes her back I bet money she'll continue to interact with the abuser. And i wouldn't put it past her to leave them with the abuser because "hes just too nice and charming so my husband must be lying.!" I cant believe she came to reddit expecting validation. Glad she was ripped a new one. I hope hubby leaves and files for full custody.

[@DestinyKiller]

"I didn't think her buying presents for everyone was important" No, they just wanted to make sure they gave the most skewed side they could I've always bought gifts for everyone so i kind if suspected that might be the case in this instance without OP saying so

[@ianesgrecia8568]

Story 2: I really REALLY hope that husband got a divorce from OP. she IS a sociopath

[@addisonprantner177]

That second one..... not only did she completely betray her husband's trust and boundaries to satisfy her curiosity, she actively put her children in an environment with a man she knows is abusive and dangerous. Even if he can forgive her massive breach of trust, there's no way in hell he'll be able to forgive her actively endangering their children

[@khaleesireyna731]

Story 2 reminds me of that crazy reddit story where the groom-to-be was NC with his abusive mother and the bride-to-be invited his mom behind his back. Groom instantly cancelled the wedding and it turns out bride's mask slipped and she tried every unhinged, manipulative tactic in the book to get him back... it almost feels like story 2 is like that story but from the brides POV.

[@BlackTheBerserker]

A name is never just a name. It's going to shape that child's entire life. Whether it's right or not, fact of the matter is if an employer sees that on a job application, they're more likely to toss it. Having a unique name is one thing, but a name like that is going to make that child's adult life unnecessarily harder.

[@KadeStringer2.0]

Not really true

[@laurag502]

@@KadeStringer2.0it is true lol. there are lots of studies that show certain names absolutely do destroy peoples chances of getting a job easily.

[@kentario1610]

​@@laurag502 I truly believe that person you replied to is just a contrarian because they seem to disagree with a lot of common sense things. Maybe for engagement or attention?

[@laurag502]

@@kentario1610 you’re probably right, i’m the perfect target for rage bait because i like being right and yelling into the void

[@khaleesireyna731]

I'll admit, I'm one for eclectic names (like totally down to name a child after a galaxy or Greek mythology hero or something), but here's the thing: my children's names, should I be fortunate enough to have children, will be gifts. And a true gift is not something you get to dictate how the recipient uses/appreciates the gift. It's given with no strings attached. So, if my kid doesn't like their eclectic name, they can absolutely go by a different name or their middle name (also down to go unique 1st name, normal middle name route). It would be the same as if my child ended up being transgender or non-binary and felt more comfortable using a different name for that reason. My feelings wouldn't really matter in that situation and I would just support my kids in what makes them the most comfortable and happy. Because, at the end of the day, what's more important? Naming your child a name that fits your taste or your child being happy and confident in who THEY are?

[@kevincoughlin3455]

Story 2, "My husband will come back and we will be a family again." I wonder if OP is actually abusive to her husband. That's some pretty strong language from someone who forced her husband's abuser into their children's lives.

[@susankaempfer8427]

Maybe. She only seems to care how this has blown up in her face and not that she’s hurt her husband.

[@Markee]

Sorry for Reupload, something weird happened with the initial upload. Not sure what went wrong there honestly.

[@SweetDaddyFrank]

was it the tik tok influencer from the story? did she copyright strike?

[@Markee]

No, the video just wasn’t appearing on on my KZbin for me and was getting like 1/10th of the views it normally gets? So weird.

[@ondank]

Story 3 - it's not even a weird relationship. She does that for everyone in her life.

[@juliearmfield2634]

I know, from the title I thought this friend was going to be really clingy and constantly pushing boundaries. I thought that she was getting him expensive intimate Valentine's Day gifts. Nope just simple little Valentine's presents to all her family and friends that she would get for 10 bucks or under. This girl needs therapy

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

Right? At first I was like “oh yeah this is wrong” until that line lol. If you do it for everyone it’s not special and doesn’t mean more, it’s what you do for your loved ones. It only matters if everyone gets a $5 card and he gets a $2k computer

[@juliearmfield2634]

@@Catherine.Dorian. yeah this girl is delusional. He said something like "yeah I think we need to break up" and her reaction was "well he's just thinking about it we haven't broken up yet" 🤦😂

[@damien678]

And then when the friend is confronting her and saying "pretty sure you're gonna share this too" op claps back with family issues 'she would bring up to get sympathy'. OP is so mean wth

[@Catherine.Dorian.]

@@juliearmfield2634 seriously lol. Though I do hate when people try to soften the blow like that, just be direct “we are breaking up”. But I do love her reaction is to then harass the person who she already made the issue with lol

[@lkayh]

Um, what? If I knew my husband and SIL had been badly abused by a man, there is no way in hell that man would get anywhere near my children. Spousal empathy and respect, nil, maternal protective instinct, nil. What is up with this woman? Hubs needs to fight for full custody with supervised visitation. Sorry, OP, but geez!

[@delilahbelle2125]

S2: JFC, we're estranged from my partner's parents. My children have no memory of them. In the last year or so (they're both 5), they've been asking why they don't know their grandparents on my partner's side. A simple "they have not been kind to papa or mama, and we think it's best to not have then in our lives." They've stopped asking questions for now. There will probably be more down the road, but it will be handled in an age appropriate manner then too.

[@journeyboredom3154]

Similar to story two, my dad also disowned his dad. I got the same idea as the kids when mom told me about him. My dad told me the full story of the abuse, not dumbed down. Described who gpa really is. Explained the family who still supported him wanted money and did not care how dangerous he was. I lost all wants to see him, because I loved my dad more than some cruel old guy. I was 9 but understood just fine.

[@averycheesypotato]

Story 2- those kids never would have been so interested in meeting “grandpa” if OP had not put the idea in their minds! Disgusting level of betrayal!

[@martil.9058]

As a child of abusive alcoholic father , i can tell you if my husband would try to be buddies buddies with that prick i would divorce him and took kids the same day. Story 2. Wtf

[@khaleesireyna731]

Same here. My father is highly abusive and unrepentant about it and my mother has untreated bipolar and has straight up attacked me and attempted to ruin my life over lies she made up and put on court documents. If I have children someday, they are not going anywhere NEAR my parents and if my spouse betrayed me like that and pulled the sh*t OPs pulling, I would have divorce papers ready and a cutthroat lawyer who's going to make sure I get full custody. I don't f*ck around with that.

[@BoxOKittens]

Story 2: why would OP allow an abuser around their kids??? My dad abused me and my future child is never going to be around him.

[@spikeoramathon]

Story 1: OOOh another Ruby Franke in the making! And speaking as someone with a misspelled name, I can tell you it's an effing headache. I had to get my college diploma re-done, and NO ONE could ever pronounce my name right (even my parents sometimes forgot and spelled it the traditional way!) But also this kid is not going to have a home and the husband can't even be in his own home?!?!? Can't she just have ONE ROOM as a studio and let her family be an effing family? This is not going to end well. OP should document everything and turn it over to CPS as soon as there's enough to get this kid to a safe, loving environment - perhaps a group home for all the other kids of these "influencers". Glad this one seems to be hearing sense - for now... OP 2 sounds like one of those people who excuse any kind of mistreatment with a whine about "Buuut Faaaaaaaaaaamily!" If your husband says his dad is a no-go, BELIEVE HIM. OP doesn't admit it, but I'd be willing to bet any money you like that the only reason the kids were obsessing over "why can't we see grandpa" is because SHE KEPT BRINGING IT UP and coaching them to ask that. Kids don't miss people they've never met unless they've been told they should miss them. Sheesh. She also needs to learn the difference between "evade" and "invade," but that's me being a pedantic old lady, I'm sure.

[@Mario-SunshineGalaxy64]

Should’ve renamed the video “AITA Stories: Bad Female Partner Edition”.

[@ladyv5655]

And Bad Parenting.

[@kanelovec4315]

God she one of those tik tok people. Not even a tik tok mom. Is she even caring for her kid outside of videos. Sense she can't even have kid toys in the house so she doesn't have to clean them

[@TheQuantumWave]

I imagine baby will be banished to the attic with dad.

[@ToxicSunrise132]

​@@TheQuantumWave at least he might have toys up there

[@BNezzy]

this is going to be a epidemic of a problem for Genz Moms.

[@heatheraucoin5832]

Last story- HE’S NO LONGER YOUR BF. OPs is INCORRIGIBLE

[@HubiKoshi]

The Grandpa Story: So she didn't just gave in to her kids demands, oh it's so much worse, she actually pushed those ideas on her kids and then convinced herself she has the right to. That's some seriously messed up thinking.

[@bluexwings]

S1: Infants NEED toys and exposure to colors for their physical and mental development! This woman is planning to neglect her child for an *aesthetic*. That's sick.

[@LunaArtGallery]

Story 1: I can't help but to think that this is how future serial killers are made.

[@khaleesireyna731]

Honestly, Sad Beige Moms should become completely socially unacceptable the way furries are treated. Like you get side-eye if you openly admit to being a furry, but it should be, imo, more accepted to be a furry than a sad beige mom... at least furries aren't harming children's psychological development because !*aesthetic!*

[@eldeano9964]

Story 1: I'm only into the 1st paragraph, and my fight or flight instincts have kicked in.

[@raptoress6131]

Story 1: NTA. Talk to both her and the husband. It sounds like the husband is in an abusive relationship, and the baby is going to be neglected and exploited for views. An intervention is needed.

[@AleksandarBradaric]

3:02 AH YES...the good ol' "A child could fix this dumpster fire of a marriage" plan...Never fails...XD

[@TheQuantumWave]

Normally I take the soon to be a parent's side on baby names, but this case is a huge glaring exception to the rule. Cases like this are why I hate TikTok, Instagram, and the like. Story 2: How hard would it have been to tell the kids that grandpa is bad man and did bad things to children? That is all the kids needed to know. If I was OP's wife, I would be looking into divorce and full custody.

[@TraceyBoyland]

Glad you recognized the video was private. I was so sad.

[@despinasgarden.4100]

S2 update: OP better not be surprised when her husband doesn't come back home when he realises that he can't forgive or trust her again. "He is still family" an abusive family member OP! What part of ABUSIVE don't you get? She probably destroyed her family and doesn't realise it.

[@carolroberts4614]

I am just flabbergasted that she even needed to ask the aita question!

[@khaleesireyna731]

​@@carolroberts4614I'm not. I'm too jaded with this, but a lot of people will suddenly become dumb af about abuse and why people avoid abusers when the abuser in question is family or someone they know. It's the same energy as Ashton Kutcher taking a break from Hollywood to work in helping victims of human trafficking and then writing glowing praise about what a great friend his former co-star/convicted r@pist Danny Masterson was. And then he and Mila Kunis were suddenly shocked Pikachu that people were angry with them for that. You'd think it'd be so easy to NOT defend predatory people just because you know them, but yet here we are.

[@jackcurl2005]

"I'm sure it's wasn't as bad as you're making it out to be."

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

Parents need to think about and look at what they name their children. When my brother and his wife were expecting their daughter, they shared her name with us after her baby shower. I immediately realized an issue with her name/initials and pointed it out to them. But they didn't want to change her name. We told them that she would be teased and tormented in school if they kept the name, but they refused and put their foot down because they were not changing her name. Well, from about 4th grade until my niece had her name changed when she turned 18, she was indeed teased and tormented. She even tried to get her parents to change her name when she was toung as legally they could petition the court. But again, they refused. They were adamant about the name, and I do get it. They wanted to honor my grandmother and SIL's grandmother. We even recommended to switch the placement of the 2 middle names. But they just kept saying no. They were very upset when she dropped one of the names when she turned 18, and were so angry that they didn't speak to her for 3 years! Ok, Have I built up the suspense? I will not give you her real name but use names with the same initials. Catherine Leigh Isabel Thompson. Yes, her initials spelled out C.L.I.T. I don't understand why they thought school-age kids wouldn't notice her initials and why they were so dead set on putting the names in that order. When my niece changed her name, she just dropped Isabel, making her new initials Catherine Leigh Thompson. On the request form, you have to state why you want your name changed, and my 1niece wrote, "Look at my initials. Isn't that reason enough?" When the judge read that, he chuckled and said, "This is the fastest name change approval I have ever done. Tell your parents I said, "WHY?" My poor niece had to get into therapy and was diagnosed with PTSD, all because her parents insisted her initials spell out a part of a woman's genitals. My niece is now 40 years old, with a partner and children of her own, and a couple times a year my brother and SIL will make passive-aggressive comments about her name.

[@kristenhlady4079]

Story 2: how fucking daree you! I hope your partner leaves you and makes sure you no longer have any contact with the kids or them!

[@betheguy_posts]

Imagine raising a child only for them to become Queen Beige Mom™. Women like that are why grandparents rights exist. OP is gonna have a long uphill battle trying to make sure their grandkid is okay.

[@catsncrows]

I was just going to say this! This is one of the few grandparents rights situations. She's joined the Beige Circus!

[@betheguy_posts]

​@catsncrows Tbf it looks like she snapped out of it, or is at least starting to. She at least recognized *why* she was becoming that way so hopefully they can all come together to move forward as a family.

[@beck3149]

Only half way thru story one My idea Put on Cinderella. At the end, ask the kids, “do you think Cinderella ever wants to see her step mom again?” When they say no “Well that’s how your dad feels about grandpa. And he doesn’t want him to hurt you like how he was hurt.” Boom! YOURE DONE! Jeez!

[@MarshmallowCUPCAKee1]

Story 2: what a disgusting woman!! I hope he divorces her, the lack of empathy and awareness is astounding. How does he not hate this man too for what he did to her husband? He deserves a woman who understands his suffering & empathises with it, not brushes it under the rug coz “family”.

[@SadWorm030]

Story 2 pissed me off so much. As someone who had abuse come from a family member if I found out my SO took my kids to see them- I would be beyond livid and I’m pretty sure I would leave them and try my best to have full custody of those kids. Because who the heck take kids, innocent little kids to a known abuser!?!! Just- ARGFUAUSUAGA

[@Hazey4420]

Story 2 seems odd. We've been NC with my FIL since my kids were little. They are now into double digits. They have never asked to meet him EVER. They ask questions. Does dad have a dad? Yes, yes he does. He is not a safe person for y'all to be around. What is the mom putting into their heads to get them to hound their dad and aunt about a grandfather that is abusive AF to the point their mom unalived herself. That is extreme trauma. Then to take them to meet the fucker oh hell no I wouldn't care if we were together for 40yrs I would divorce that B. There is literally no trust left. She is willing to take a 9 year old around someone she knows to be abusive what is wrong with that mom?

[@khaleesireyna731]

As easy as it really is to NOT defend predatory/abusive people, too many people still mess that up because "faaaaaammmily". Like, sadly, the bar is literally at the bottom of hell and some people still trip over it.

[@geminiblue]

Story 2 - i highly doubt the kids were badgering her as much as she was bringing it up. As long as they have their sibs, parents & grow up in a loving, tight knit home, kids dont care about extended family like that.

[@Warbles_]

This batch of stories was WILDDDD

[@nadirimyers6643]

I already knew that she brought up the grandfather to the kids cus how would they know or care about someone that was never talked about. Ik she thought if the kids asked he would say yes and I just don’t get why meeting a stranger is more important than your husband’s feelings!!!! Wtf! The second story irked me. Yeah it’s nice you can admit what you did AFTER hurting 2 ppl you claim to love and getting what you want… I hope it works out for the kids conscious but also don’t think it will because honestly that level of betrayal is unforgivable and I wouldn’t blame the husband for not being able to forgive. I hope it was worth it at least

[@bryanroy3316]

Folks, Markee is tougher than he looks, given that he’s smiling from inside a Russian prison cell.

[@A.n0neeM0usee]

Just waiting for the Russian prison tattoos to begin showing up.

[@SilverMKI]

At least it isn't all beige.

[@jakeand9020]

Last story: So the boyfriend's friend does the Valentine's thing with ALL her friends, which OP didn't mention in the original post because she "didn't think it was relevant." Coincidentally, it's the single most relevant fact in the whole story.

[@robinronin]

Story 2: Uh, no way those kids would be interested in meeting their sh-t grandfather unless someone continuously put in a serious good word for him. OP manipulated her children into being vessels to ab-se her husband. Because, yes, constantly badgering people about someone who ab-sed them is repeatedly and maliciously triggering their trauma, which causes severe psychological harm, which is ab-se. OP is genuinely just as bad as the grandfather, which her husband likely was attracted to in the first place (very normal! If not fully healed, we seek out people who will ab-se us because we think that’s what love feels like). Hopefully this will help him see that he repeated a pattern when he was still vulnerable and now needs to get himself and the children out.

[@YellaBellaReno]

OP is a huuuuuge asshole. However, I do wonder why the father or aunt never told their kids, especially considering how old they are. I feel like hearing about abuse from someone firsthand is something every kid could benefit from. Do you need to go into graphic detail? No, but to hide such a huge part of yourself and your life from your kids seems isolating. I wonder if he planned to ever talk about it with them. Maybe he was waiting until they were old enough to do it over a drink.

[@benbraden9133]

When nobody in the family talks about someone, kids don’t know that they exist. The kids only wanted to meet grandad so bad because OP was putting that idea in their heads. She manipulated them to prove to her husband that her want to see this man was worth more than his NEED to stay away from him. She is a narcissist. You can see it in the last sentence. She makes the declaration that everything will be ok sound like an unhinged threat.

[@karendaniel620]

Story 2: I knew that OP must be doing something for her kids to continue to want to meet "grampa." Kids don't call strangers grampa without being egged on.

[@spiriteddefect5125]

I worked in medical records as a clerk so I got all the newborn paperwork. The names are astounding. "Handsome" & "Beautiful" for a set of twins, "Stallion" and one spelt her name, Erica as "Airwreckah"

[@BlackTheBerserker]

Lol, "Airwreckah" the way it reads looks like a a transformer name.

[@ladyv5655]

​@@BlackTheBerserker, pretty much excluding the option of her growing up to be a pilot.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

​​@@ladyv5655 Or, the world's first human to fart harder and louder than Krackatoa.

[@CanyonALynn]

​@@BlackTheBerserkerAir Wrecker... 😂

[@YellaBellaReno]

Noooooooo! What?!?! No! Airwreckah is a doozy, but even Handsome and Beautiful are rough. Imagine the pressure you’d feel being named Beautiful to BE beautiful. That’s like naming your daughter Chastity…

[@evavocative6975]

Mom who took her kids to meet the abusive AH grandfather is a HORRIBLE PARENT and PARTNER. She didn't do anything to try and minimalize their curiosity, she ENABLED it by acting like the husband was in the wrong. If I were HIM, there would have been divorce papers on the table the NEXT DAY.

[@pompe221]

OP's declaration that her husband will come back and they will be a happy family again shows the same selfish, delusional mindset that got her into this mess in the first place. The commenter who said that OP is all about the "But but but FAMILY" was absolutely right.

[@Whooachannel]

Story 2: OP is insane. She KNOWS her husband and sil were so badly abused by their father that they cut contact with him as soon as they turned 18 and she honest to God feels her kids need to be around that kind of person? Just because she herself hasn't seen/experienced it? Also she could EASILY get her kids to back off by telling the truth. "We don't talk to Grandpa because he is a bad and mean person who hurt both your father, aunt, and even grandma who passed away. He treated them cruelty for years and years until they were grown ups and could move away. We don't want him to hurt you too or hurt dad and aunt anymore, that's why we don't talk to him" Not just stain "he's mean and they don't get along" they need some of the truth even if not going into graphic details so that they can fully understand why he was cut off

[@heatherdickau5335]

Last story. OP is leaving out so much information. I would like to hear from ex and his friend. This is probably the last straw in her crazy.

[@RenaDeles]

I saw this covered on another channel and apparently this was a repost, because her first time telling things she left out a lot less and the comments understandably ripped into her. It really does sound like exes friend just has friend Valentine's for everyone which is a normal thing a lot of people do. Also buried in the comments is the fact that this was like what are those simple joke cards so not expensive gift or anything, so she really was showing her immaturity not being able to handle boyfriend getting a gift like that when she did know yes she does this with everyone and has for years.

[@ksbs2036]

Story #2 Abusive Grandpa and manipulative underhanded spouse who had to meet the abuser ..... I had no words when I heard this story. It was a fire-hose of excuses and denials for her selfish actions. This will end up in divorce. I will put money on it. There is no coming back from it. Trust completely violated.

[@velentr]

"...after all, he is still _fAAAAAAAmILy_ ." *DEEP, SOUL SHIVERING, SIGH*

[@nadirimyers6643]

I will never understand ppl that go behind they partner back to see a person the partner is no contact with. Wtf. Why do you care so bad to see a person you don’t know ? The dads only mistake was not telling the kids why he’s no contact but he don’t gotta do in detail. He should have never made it a secret but she deff shouldn’t have taken them. That’s so messed up. I would have asked the kids. “Are you willing to betray your dad to meet a stranger. What your grandfather did to your dad is so bad that he can’t even talk about it. Think about that before you ask to see a stranger… has your father ever kept you away from safe ppl? If no. That means it’s cus grandpa is not safe. Yeah ppl can change but it can also be too late for forgiveness for some ppl and that’s they choice too”

[@tamsel814]

I fully agree with you. The only place where the husband messed up was by refusing to explain things to his kids. Those kids should have known more. Imagine if the grandad had tried to contact the kids while they were unaware of how shitty/dangerous the grandfather's is.

[@vincentlucario5450]

@@tamsel814idk, the abuse sounds really horrible. The sister can’t even talk to op what happened

[@RSARYR]

Story 2: YES. YES 100% OP IS THE AH!!! There were many, many reasons why the husband's father should not be around the kids. She is just an idiot.

[@nopenope609]

The one with the wife wanting to meet the abusive fil. Dang. My mom's father was abusive. When she and my dad got together she told him everything. As children we not only never knew, but also were never curious. For all we knew Mom didn't have family. But after Mom died (I was a teen) her brother came to our house. They had also been abusive to mom. I watched my calm, gentle natured father punch this man in the face unprompted. A neighbor had to come pull my dad off of him. We haven't had contact since, and never want to. My brother's spouse mentioned it once, and my brother told her that if my dad's side wasn't enough for her she needed to find a normal family to marry into.

[@meiimacca4054]

Really bad names are child abuse and so is being exposed to the internet.

[@Davtwan]

I love when you post the comments from the updates, because it shows the glorious smackdowns like in story 2 and 3.

[@selinesbeau]

"I'd rather yeet myself into the abyss." Chef's kiss on that one.

[@cfc1523]

Damn S2 has me burning with rage. Can’t even imagine what the husband and sister in law are going through. I would divorce, take the kids and the house, and never talk to her again. Just one of the worst kinds of people. She doesn’t know what kind of abuse it was, it very well could have been child SA and she took her own kids to him. Her kids could have been abused in the same way if things went wrong.

[@utatanepiko7087]

"As opposed to me. I am not locked in a gray, aesthetic, soundproof booth. That does not sound like me" And there is no war in Ba Sing Se right?

[@NoFoxGiven247]

What an episode, a real roller-coaster.

[@LololoriShow]

She's gonna scream Get that child into the attic!

[@kaijinu]

Is that really ALL of the update from story 2?! I HAVE THE MIGHTY NEED TO LAUGH AT HER FACE (or in this case, the PC screen?) WHEN HER HUSBAND SERVES HER DIVORCE PAPERS! *A. MIGHTY. NEED!*

[@patc4586]

"...yeet myself into the abyss." 🤣

[@aduckofsomesort]

If she doesn’t want to name her child Robin then why is she naming her child Robin

[@ladyv5655]

No, she isn't calling him "Robin", she's calling him "Rawbynne" or some other ridiculous alternative spelling.

[@Cosmiccrying]

@@ladyv5655 ridiculous spelling or not at the end of the day it’s still Robin, it’s said the same way. I think that’s what the original comment meant, I’m just glad she didn’t name him bahatman since she’s so worried he’ll become a side kick (seriously what does that even mean?!) At least he can start spelling it as Robin instead of that bs his “mom” picked

[@aduckofsomesort]

@@ladyv5655 you realize you aren’t saying anything different than I did right?

[@LePhantome273]

Story 1: I really hope this wake-up call is one that sticks - it looks like the daughter was struggling between the ramifications of remote work and the pandemic which didn't appear to be resolved at all once restrictions lifted, the stress and emotions of pregnancy, the social media addiction, and the on-again-off-again relationship now solidifying into a marriage that you can't just turn off so easily on request, and took a nosedive into the social media bubble to cope. Having her look at the Reddit post in live time while comments poured in was probably the best route to take in this particular scenario, since she had placed so much importance on social media opinions/reactions in TikTok, and now got to see said folks break down in detail all the ways she was fucking up her family's life. Even if the marriage doesn't last, I hope this is enough to at least keep the upcoming kid out of the Mommy Blogosphere of Trauma. Story 2 upon seeing the title: Fucking hell YES YOU'RE THE ASSHOLE Story 2 after the post: STILL THE WORST, WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU. The one thing I will say here is Daryl should have addressed the situation with his kids and his wife of almost 25 YEARS better (since OP says they married at 18) - one kid is 18 for fuck's sake, and 13 and 9 are old enough to understand even a basic or watered-down "When your aunt and I were growing up, your grandfather was abusive. He would deliberately hurt us in X way for Y behavior, and because of that, we will not have anything to do with him. I never want you kids to experience the pain and betrayal of having a family member who is supposed to love and protect you hurt you like he did us. Please do not ask to see him, or speak about him again." Then maybe go into further detail with the 18 year old, who is DEFINITELY old enough to understand that abusive relationships are not to be cultivated or encouraged with the known fucking abuser. Granted, OP is most CERTAINLY an unreliable narrator here, and we have no idea how much was ACTUALLY told to her (her original post only says it was brought up once or twice, with minimal details - STILL NOT FORGIVABLE FOR NOT TRUSTING HER HUSBAND'S OPINION AND KEEPING AWAY FROM THE ABUSER - but there is a part of me that goes 'you have been married for a quarter of a century and you can't discuss this with them beyond mentioning it once or twice? like not even discussing parenting behaviors you want to avoid raising your kids under because of how much it fucked him over growing up'? bc if that was the case, the relationship wasn't strong enough AT ALL to survive this, and was never going to if both partners respond to conflict by sticking their head in the sand and pretending it doesn't exist). When discussing abuse with a romantic partner, trust is key, and you don't always have to go into excruciating detail when reliving the memories, but no more than a few sentences over 25 years, ESPECIALLY if your kids start pushing for answers as well? Yeah no, this was always going to go tits up bad. Dad and his sister DESPERATELY need therapy, bc it doesn't sound like either of them have worked on dealing with their trauma from the description given. Also, at a bare minimum: marriage counseling, individual counseling, family counseling, AND a legal separation while they work out the details, bc I doubt this is the only problem facing their marriage that the couple are running from. Hell, say the wife had actually supported her husband in this, and did not encourage a meeting - her last words on the matter to the kids were like the post says, 'Dad did not get along with Grandpa and Grandpa was mean to him." What was to stop the 18-year old from finding this man himself and building a relationship, of getting sucked into the abuse cycle with Grandpa? Or one of the younger kids holds onto this and goes to hunt down Grandpa once they're old enough to drive? Dad sure as shit wouldn't have done his job of protecting his kids if all he does when faced with 'hey Dad, what's Grandpa like?' is to shut down completely and say nothing but 'erase the thought of him' - bc yeah, that shit works with kids, totally /s. Again, there is a LOT we do not know here, and I have to wonder what the husband's side ACTUALLY is - bc if OP DID know the whole story from the beginning, all the nitty gritty details? Then the best option now is Divorce - there's no coming back from this betrayal of trust, esp with her getting the kids involved.

[@kxs7267]

Obviously put a lot of thought into this, fair play. But from the extreme reactions of both siblings it seems unlikely it was just "he gave us the silent treatment for talking back, let's never do that to our kids". The kind of violent aversion that keeps someone silent for years and makes them drop a glass on hearing their kids had contact - that hints of much, much worse things. Like s**ual ab*use, or starvation, or damaging violence. Not sure how much discussion one would need with one's spouse to decide not to parent in these ways?

[@LePhantome273]

@kxs7267 @kxs7267 that's valid for the 'what not to do' discussion aspect - same for the shock at his kids encountering his sperm donor once causing him to drop a glass being an indicator of something far, FAR worse having happened to him and his sister as a child. I'm actually wondering about other aspects at play here now, like how easy it was for the wife to find the shit sperm donor. You'd think if he was that easy to contact he'd have harassed his kids prior to this - or would Daryl have kept tabs on him if forced to live relatively close to him, that a trip to the mall makes for a decent alibi in meeting up with said shitstain? Both factors here definitely heighten the level of asshole the wife is tho, since if the husband was obsessive enough to know where the sperm donor was even after all those years of no contact, she would have had to have known the abuse was bad enough to not EVER consider contact from the get-go. OR, if shit-head was harassing the husband online/over the phone, it would have HAD to have come up in conversation at some point even between spouses, like "never answer a call from this number if you see it on my phone or yours" or "please block this account from watching your social media, I don't want the sperm donor to know what the kids look like". again, unreliable narrator probably doesn't want to admit she's wrong on Reddit, but communication here between the spouses is atrocious. much as I would like this to be a case of "Pollyanna-ish" naivety and some truly shit communication between spouses married for a literal quarter of a century, it is looking more and more like the wife is an utter shit heel the more I think about the circumstances at play here 😒😒😒

[@AlexandraWatchWorld]

Story 3 where i am from is normal to give small chocolates to friends on Valentines.

[@debc6260]

The 2nd and 3rd OPs - oof! You found some good stories there, Markee.

[@Mooskym]

"After all, he is still family." - No, he isn't. Just like OP sees herself as part of her husband's family despite there (hopefully) being no blood relations between the two, so can there be people who are blood related and aren't family. Family is something that you choose for yourself, once you're an adult. Hell, I have friends whom I have no blood or romantic/sexual relations with that I consider my family. And the kids are definitely old enough to know why they have no grandpa, one of them is legally an adult for crying out loud! The more I listen to this kind of stories, the less I'm surprised by any one of them, but there are still stories every once in a while that manage to shake me up inside, and story 2 from this video is for sure one of them! (Story 1 was also pretty terrible, but I can't get myself to care about it after that)

[@ladyv5655]

What I am wondering is why the son in law is such a doormat. Nevermind the daughter. Encourage her husband to leave and seek custody of the baby. Robin isn't such bad name. But being raised by that mother will probably turn him into a mass shooter by the time he's 14.

[@untitled-gv3qp]

You didn't see how she was planning on spelling the name.

[@ladyv5655]

@untitled-gv3qp , I did. When it's spelled the usual way, there is nothing wrong with it, but the way she wanted to spell it should be considered child abuse.

[@levimorne]

The audacity of the woman in the story about the abusive father... the level of entitlement, betrayal, and I don't even have a good word for the and. Every girlfriend I've ever had that was abused and didn't want yo see their father had me wanting to do harm to the man... How can she claim to love someone when she can't respect them? How can she be so delusional as to think this hasn't fundamentally changed and most likely ended her marriage? Why do so many people need to play the find out games?

[@orchidoxs126]

Story 2: why would you want your kids to meet an abusive man? One so bad that both kids cut contact with him? He didn't want his family near him because he's a horrible? Vaild reason, he doesn't want his kids exposed to that. They don't deserve to meet abusive men. Op knows what abusive means right? I don't give s flying f if the kids want to meet him, kids don't know any better they don't know the whole situation, that's why it's on you THE PARENTS to keep them safe and you just exposed them to a known abuser.

[@orchidoxs126]

Love how op has been cussed out and shunned by her family for this. At least those people have commin sense.

[@krisCrashTV]

Hey imagine if that influencer got cancelled on tiktok for treating her baby like that, op helped her dodge a bullet ;) - If someone sends Valentine's cards to all their friends and family, then it's not weird that they send them to your boyfriend too.

[@maxinemyers9215]

I hope there is an update on story 2! 0P is a sick puppy, thanks Markee🌷

[@petunijadu]

Story 2: People from happy families often have no ability to even imagine the horror les fortunate children go through. Many are extremely invested in 'bringing family together'. OP's children think that 'grandpa' is just another grandpa, like their mothers father. But he is not. Children don't know better, but OP should've. She could've explained that their father suffered, that not all families are happy and not all grandpas are nice people. At least she should've known that her 9 years old will tell all, as she did. Because they are children from happy family and are not able even to begin to imagine the abuse possible. I suspect that OP was secretly hoping to be a hero that brings families together. She was raised wrapped in cotton wool and has very little empathy for others. She still doesn't understand how much she hurt her husband. He can't return, because she is not taking him seriously and he can't trust her. If she disregarded his suffering because she felt that she has a need and right to have a relationship with her father in law, what else she can do to him?

[@amiehome4687]

Omg i just realized Connor is a sad beige mom

[@kamicokrolock]

Story 1. If the severity of the situation is as bad as op makes it out to be and the baby will be in danger once it is born (because if she is refusing toys because it's not her ascetic then what other baby things won't she have?) then you can actually preemptively call cps and they can monitor the situation and intervene if necessary.The way she is treating the Husband is a huge red flag.

[@TiffWaffles]

OP in the third story is unhinged. I believe she was intending to start a fight with the friend and that's why she went to the friend's apartment because hardly ANY of those comments were on her side. She does understand that Valentine's Day is also for friends, right? The friends all have a tradition of sending Valentines Day gifts and OP feels threatened by that? I find it cute. She was dating her boyfriend for four months and is already clingy and controlling. Also, she totally went to the apartment of the friend to start a fight... only things didn't work out in her favour because the friend was able to attack her in such a way that she couldn't recover from.