AITA For Wanting To Ditch Our Vacation As My Parents Invited Their 'Friends'? r/Relationships

[@owl7072]

Story 1: "What we do is none of your business" you made it their business when you made inappropriate jokes and flashed each other in front of them. You also made it their business when you prioritized the comfort of your partners over that of your child, their spouse, and your grandchild who you _know_ are struggling to afford their own space, but then still crammed them all into one room when, from a _logical_ standpoint, it makes more sense to put the _two adults_ in the smaller room, not the _two adults and a whole ass child._

[@CircusoftheMoon]

Hell even the part where they said they were making out in front of them is weird to me. When I was a kid I walked in on my parents making out, but they didn’t just do it right in front of us casually. I can’t even imagine my family flashing me, the only one whoever did that was my grandma when she at her dementia peak.

[@ZomBeeQueeen]

Exactly! Very rarely does it make sense when someone sais “…it’s none of your business”

[@kimholland4822]

All of the the people who are swinger's are selfish. Expecting you children to put up with their behavior. Putting your sister and her family in a small room. Their girlfriend and boyfriend are not your family.

[@sciguy98]

Yyeeeeeeah, I was kind on the parents' side until we got to the inappropriate behavior. My approach was going to be. "If your parents were divorced and instead each one had a long-term partner, would you have the objection?" Because that would show whether or not OP actually had an issue with their parents' polyamory. But nope, the real issue isn't the polyamory, it's the wildly inappropriate behaviour

[@stolman2197]

Second story, nice to hear a positive outcome. That's probably a better way to build a marriage than how it's generally done.

[@littlegreycat]

Arranged marriages and marriages of convenience are common. It's not necessarily fraud.

[@podunk_woman]

Agree. It's really only a legal problem if you're doing it to get someone a green card.

[@trillionbones89]

They are the ah immediately for moving their daughter from the basement to the bedroom. They are three people and the couple are not. Give them the bedroom, instead.

[@sephypsycologist]

markee will not forget that couch story. honestly i won't either but mostly because he made a horrifying story incredibly silly. so thank you :)

[@dcow71]

I missed the couch story what video is it? I'm terrified but I feel like I'm missing something so I must see it

[@mbyerly9680]

That and the "art room" story will live forever here in the comments section.

[@enerioffutt1881]

@@dcow71 Turns out mom and dad were fooling around on the couch, except mom was role-playing as daughter, wearing her daughter's clothes and daughter caught them.

[@Feynix4]

@@enerioffutt1881oh god that story? I had forgotten about it until you explained… uuuuuugh gross

[@Toka972]

They have an exhibitionism fetish and blame people that aren't appreciating their skin or their jokes...I'd report them to the police next time they flash each other nearby kids like their niece. Have them report themselves to the neighborhood as sex offender might help them stay a bit more humble.

[@ZomBeeQueeen]

That’s quite extreme 😂 especially since it would force OPs sister’s family out of the house

[@maxinemyers9215]

They have their own disgusting couch!! Thanks Markee 😂 Love your laughing!!

[@mbyerly9680]

Oh, no, not the couch. I'm emotionally scarred.

[@shadowwolf7020]

The last story is so wholesome I love it 😭🥺

[@bluemoonslightASMR]

The couch at 10:09 it haunts you doesn’t it? 😂 every time you bring it up I’m haunted with that video 🤣 your chuckle too! lol just so funny

[@linola644]

I never saw the original video, would you be able to point it out to me ? 😂

[@bluemoonslightASMR]

@@linola644 here you are summer child 🤣 I’m so sorry. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKG1Zqtrq9FpqdEsi=7elMXIUdAYYHp_Mr

[@Vipre-]

@@linola644 Better to just pass if it's the particular couch story I think he's referencing. It's a cringe "ha ha" internet moment but the whole story is sad. It really messed the daughter up, led to her spiraling mentally and sexually, and last info was she was working as a topless maid which imo is a terrible idea for someone whose mental view and boundaries regarding sex have been so warped.

[@rosaazure]

Story 1 - if the parents are flashing each other when there are other people around, I have to wonder if they do it when the baby is around. It's gross if it happens with other people, but possibly a crime if the child is in the room

[@crichtonbruce4329]

Story 2... That was so uplifting. Thanks! Fraud?? Because the two of them lived together as a couple the whole time I doubt very much there was any fraud at all, but I'm not a lawyer. Perhaps OP could have asked this question on r/Legaladvice.

[@Standinthegap4ever]

Have you, your husband, your sister & her family ever discussed moving in together? At least until your sister & her family can find their own place. You can have things put on paper as to finances. Maybe your family & your sister’s family can start a new tradition: family vacation without parents. As to the adultery partners claiming they’re grandparents to your sister’s child? That needs to be nipped in the bud, & she may have to do it legally.

[@sachicocoa9013]

10:10 YOU FUDGING WOULD, MARKEE!! 😂😂😂

[@CatLoverX74]

Ignoring story 1 😂 Story 2 was so sweet! I’m so happy for them 😊 That little girl is going to have her daddy wrapped around her little finger 😆 I’m glad Cass was brave and told her ex to go away. Happy she’s in a loving and healthy relationship now 🥰

[@ZombieSazza]

Story 2; marriage these days is for love, but not too long ago in human history marriage was an arrangement, whether that be royal houses marrying off their children for alliances (in my country Scotland, they did that with France for a couple hundred years, as an example), or wanting financial safety, you have cases where homosexuals of the opposite sex would marry so they could live safely and freely without judgment or harassment/attacks from society. So none of this is weird OP, you can have a marriage of convenience where she feels safe and you are happy in your situation without love. Obviously doesn’t take into account falling in love, telling her how you feel, making out with your wife! You both love each other, have genuine feelings for each other, she loves you and your children, and even when she thought you loved someone else she put your household first, she considered your children first before all else. That there? That’s LOVE! So who cares if it started as a marriage of convenience? You’re both genuinely happy and in genuine love! I wish you both a loving and happy future (also nice pick on the crab legs, solid choice of food, this detail lover appreciated this). Also true love is making sure your wife feels safe after her abusive ex was released from prison and asking your military buddies to stop by your house during the day to check she’s okay, it’s things like this that show how much you love her OP. Love doesn’t have to be grand acts every time, it can simply be smaller acts or making sure your loved one feels safe.

[@enerioffutt1881]

Some men bring you flowers. Other men will plant you a garden.

[@embluvya]

Story 1: They ARE adults and CAN do what they want. That doesn't mean that they are free of the consequences of what they do and how their actions effect their relationship with their kids.

[@ZombieSazza]

10:10 GODDAMNIT I KNEW HE WAS GUNNA MENTION THAT COUCH DAMN YOU MARKEE

[@ellieguerra536]

THE COUCH REFERENCE, I WASN'T PREPARED, WHY MARKEE, WHYYY

[@SeraphsGenisis]

NOOOO NOT THE COUCH!! PLEASE NOT THE COUCH!!

[@addisonmadison5989]

I'm waiting for the book version is story 2. I'll probably watch the movie as well. It's soooo sweet

[@athena3016]

Story one: Maybe I’ve been watching too many of these reddit story videos, but my petty side kind of wants OP and her sister to do some PDA with their own partners and see how the parents feel about it. Somehow I don’t think they would be as chill with it as they’re expecting their kids to be. But honestly, leaving and cutting contact was probably the best (definitely most mature) option. Story two: OP could write this as a script, sell it to Hallmark, and be set for life. I’m sorry about what happened with his first wife, I can’t imagine how painful it must’ve been for him and the kiddos. Cass sounds like a wonderful person! She helped them out in their time of need while respecting their boundaries (i.e. not trying to replace first wife as ‘mom’) and vice versa. Now they’re a wonderful happy family complete with that elusive storybook ending (though I hope it doesn’t end for them)! Also, I like how OP teased us “fans”. He knows what’s up! 😂❤

[@dedsecaffiliate1979]

My man Joe is the ultimate wingman. What a guy!

[@Lyoko2516]

Also, Joe set the OP up for a Hunger Games-style reveal at a restaurant. :)

[@PlasticBluVentRabbit]

Bruh, story 2 makes up for all the wrong going on in story 1 i fuckin’ swear We go from a bad example of a poly relationship to one of the most wholesome things i’ve ever heard from this website. With a side order of defrauding the gov!

[@kentario1610]

An all around win, honestly.

[@Ravenishish]

Honestly I'm wondering how that is classed as fraud. It's only a couple of steps removed from an arranged marriage for business purposes or gay people marrying to stay in the closet. Marriages of convenience are a longtime tradition.

[@AngelDeed]

Yeah, it doesn't sound that romantic to me, just another absent father who expects women to take care of his children. I've never heard of a single mother who had to hire a full time male nanny to take care of her "great but overwhelming children" (especially not for an infant) for some reason, it's always the single fathers who can't cope. And of course the young woman was in a vulnerable situation too. Aaand of course he had to knock her up immediately, so not she really is trapped... And that comment about her working too much... Yikes, says the person who had to hire a full time carer for his children and house because he can't take care of them.

[@Vipre-]

@@AngelDeed You get that military members don't have a ton of flexibility in time right? He was enlisted when his wife died, they didn't just say "Welp you're free to go now." Not how that works.

[@SLTheOneAndAwesome19]

Story 1: These parents give poly relations a bad name 🙄

[@immapotato1]

i mean sexual orientation and being perverts are unrelated. it's sad how perverts these days get away with sh*t calling it an orientation.

[@peepeepoopoo2710]

Anyone can give any type of relationship a bad name, the parents are a good example of them unfortunately. And choosing their relationship over their kids ??? Bffr

[@rickhernandez7666]

@@immapotato1 At first I was offended when OP stated that the parents could do whatever they wanted as long as they kept it in private. Sounds a lot like something homophobes might say. But then OP described exactly WHAT they were doing as PDA and I dialed back very quickly.

[@WadeAlma]

@@rickhernandez7666If polyamory counts as a sexuality then I’m a proud bigot.

[@charliebgoode4729]

That last story was so sweet!!

[@seangarvey8232]

The couch will never be forgotten 😢 😭

[@owl7072]

It's the equivalent of "you just lost the game" but it's Markee reminding us of the couch

[@seangarvey8232]

@@owl7072 hahaha right

[@KonekoPurrrfection]

Rumor has it markee is still waking up in a cold sweat after nightmares regarding said couch

[@morganleanderblake678]

as a polyam person, full offense to those parents: yta. Your relationships don't magically make parent relationships exist in a vacuum with your kids. Do not expose your kids to your polyam dating. And don't throw your grandkid out for your side pair. thanks for giving polyam a bad name.

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

No literally I see this occasionally and it’s why I get why I get weird looks for being poly am. If that’s the only example, I do get why it might be squicky. Hopefully folks let me explain but it is hard to be mad seeing what I’ve seen :/

[@morganleanderblake678]

@@drewthistlethwaite8909 I have seen it done well and poorly in many situations, but word one is: Your new *pants and hearts feelings* do not confer familial relationships to your kids and relatives.

[@amandab8433]

My daughter and her wife are in a long-term poly relationship. Going eight years for them, and on two years with their partner. Who by the way I absolutely adore. They NEVER make people uncomfortable with their relationship. If they know that extended family members are uncomfortable then they take appropriate steps. This mother and father seriously do such harm, by literally being the bad stereotype of what people think Poly Republicans are.

[@dcg590]

Sick

[@morganleanderblake678]

@@amandab8433 Agreed. Also it exposes your kids to people who might be dating you for access to your kids.

[@bridgetdebourgh5698]

Not the couch 😂😂😂😂

[@ruaine83]

The widower story is so cute... "She kissed me, does that mean she likes me?" Seriously though, I have a feeling your wife would approve. This woman has basically stepped up and in to raise her kids and support her husband. Also, no person who truly loves another would want them to sit around and be sad for the rest of their life. I'm sure late wife is really happy for everything that's happened, at least before the update (I just stopped to type this). To the GoT analogy, keep in mind that some planetary systems have multiple stars...

[@Mama_Bear_of_3]

Story 2. It is so refreshing to read such a wonderful story.

[@jessemusil2978]

Story 2 : Marks reactions during the part where OP is speaking just makes the story so much better....really puts the emphasis on his feelings

[@user-dw3ke4cs2w]

Markee back at it again with the couch comments

[@davidlionheart2438]

Today on Jerry Springer: "Help! My Parents Turned Family Vacation Into A Sl*t Fest!"

[@penniegwin1320]

Story 1) "what we do is none of your business." Yeah I get that. If it's none of your business then don't parade it in front of them!! Also when your niece gets older where she could tell that it's not normal grandparents behavior while they are flashing and kissing and sex calendar on the fridge? No that's not ok. Story 2) while it's not ok to defraud the government, it is ok to fall in love again. Your wife (kids mom) would want you to be happy. Your kids want to be happy. Your wife, today, seems happy that you fell for her. She seems like a good person to be with.

[@Center-For-I.E.D.Mismanagement]

Story 1: Barely over a minute in and I can tell OP is NTA.

[@sharyebethancourt3660]

19:54 your storytelling is top notch today! 😂🤣

[@ArthropodJay]

Story 2...was...so...CUTE

[@carlrood4457]

I really don't think it qualifies as fraud. Historically, people married for a plethora of reasons, not just love. It wasn't a case where they married on paper and then lived apart. That would be fraud. They lived together. She took care of his kids. He provided for the family. That's a marriage/family.

[@RequiemPoete]

Story 1 NTA. I'm part of the kink and poly community where I live and consent is key. Part of consent is you don't involve anyone in your lifestyle against their wishes. Now, if it was just not wanting their partners there despite them acting respectful, I'd say yta, but that's clearly not the case.

[@shaystizzy]

That last story was absolutely heartwarming. I had a feeling he was either going to have met someone or developed feelings for his wife. I also had a feeling in the updates that they were going to expand their family. I did feel bad for the kids when she kept trying to get them to stop calling her mom, but i can understand that she didn't want them to get to attached if she had to leave at some point.

[@SasoAkasuna]

Markee will never let us forget about the couch 😭😭 it always takes me so out of guard

[@deballen7031]

Loved the updates and that last story was a real heart-warmer. Thank you. 😊

[@champslim]

Couch.... NOOOOOO 🤢🤢🤢🤢😭😭😭😭

[@sadunicorn3863]

Story 2: op went from cussing out Joe to worshiping him real quick😂😂 tbh Joe is the real mvp 😂😂😂

[@marciaholesovsky3461]

Story 2: one of the best stories ever Markee😂

[@obsidianagent]

Second story: From the starting post I thought: This isn't a fraud marriage now. This is a full on marriage minus the sex. Absolutely everything else is there. I am so happy it worked out!

[@mbyerly9680]

The parents and their partners are exhibitionists who get extra thrills making others uncomfortable.

[@jodieg6318]

Bingly-bingly-bong-bing! Winner! The minute that OP said they were flashing each other and doing sloppy PDA in front of everyone then turned around and screamed "Our private life is none of your business!" They are totally getting off on making people uncomfortable, are they playing out some weird role reversal where they're the ones acting like teenagers in front of their adult children?

[@jewlzcraig-leaves597]

I love that you’re so invested in story 2 ☺️

[@pauldavisjr.3284]

I'm really happy how well things ended for the last op. When need positive wholesome stories like that every now and again.

[@nicknitro86]

Uh nuh uh. The first time some creepy geriatrics tell me they're another set of 'grandparents', I'd have shut that shit down immediately. And it is ok to not be fine with this.

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

S1: Im poly am. This isn’t ok in the community for the most part. While there’s people like this, it’s not part of ethical poly am or swinging. Wtaf so fucking gross

[@amemooress6291]

Markee, you fuckin' killed me. "I have a couch to sell you!" 😂😂😂

[@kellycurtis4483]

🌟thank you for the second story!!! It was so nice, to hear about 2 people finding each other! 😊🌟

[@gregmiller4387]

Story 1 - Don't worry ,your deviant parents can live however they want in private but there is no need for them to make a public display of themselves and of you and your family, embarrassing you , your wife and child. If they insist then it's LC /NC time.

[@theerectus2004]

Whatever happened to being discreet?

[@silveus100]

That “fuck your that’s my kill go get your own” I felt that

[@maurer3d]

Story 1: NTA, being "swings" is fine, but the second they start doing this stuff in front of other people (without consent), it becomes deeply inappropriate.

[@littlegreycat]

9:37 "I'm not required to be an audience to your activities" as well as that great comment Markee copied over about priorities.

[@nightmare_jeanie]

So the lsst story was beautiful. Im so glad they are all happy now. I hope he knows that chances are, his late wife would be/is pleased that he found happiness after her passing. It might be a hard conversation to have, but I've told my husband that if i were to die, that I'd expect him to move on with someone who made him and our kids happy. Survivors guilt can be absolutely soul crushing and I'm glad that OP found a woman who worked with him on it.

[@amemooress6291]

Story 2: 😭😭😭😭 who wrote this hallmark romance masterpiece? *waits for the first update*

[@eph2vv89only1way]

Love the story with op and Cass! I am tearing up with happy tears for them

[@ammo19911]

Story 1: The true elephant in the room: how long have the parents worked on getting the sister and the FIANCE to move out before taking this step. This post is in my opinion mostly about entitlement, seeing as the parents seems to have even waited till their kids was, not kids, grownups.

[@colleens1107]

Story two: thank you Markee for that palate cleanser after the debacle of the first story. I wanted an update about the swingers parents and all it did was make me feel sad for those kids, so I’m glad we got a story with a happy update! Sooo cute, they should sell their story to Hallmark, so they can make that into one of their movies…probably make it Christmas related but whatever.

[@lauracatania5063]

That last story read like a good harlequin romance novel

[@ashemabahumat4173]

Just bounce an help get the kid outta there. There's a reason we as a society look down on that kinda thing, and and they're not the kid's grandparents too. Those doors shouldn't be closed if the sister and her family is involved

[@meiwa2020]

The second story was so so so so so so cute! It's like out of a romance novel lol love it!

[@norma8686]

story 2 is just so wholesome

[@ian7064]

Story 1: Sad situation. The parents in this gross lifestyle always pick the other ppl over their kids. Its the case in all these stories

[@drewthistlethwaite8909]

I’m poly am. I know plenty of folks who don’t, but because they don’t do this it’s not the main subject and not really brought up much. If people ask sure, but most poly am folks I know with kids are so egging strict and it’s the kids first always. I also know folks exactly like this so I get why you might feel that way :/ just please know it’s a weird niche part of the community and we hate them too

[@laurameier7069]

Story 2: I'm not crying, dammit!🥹

[@KonekoPurrrfection]

Forcing your kids to be part of your kink without consent

[@b.c.9358]

That whiplash between story 1 and story 2 jesus christ markee

[@Lillireify]

COUCH YOU SAY!

[@heatherholzhaus7013]

Consent is an important part of any relationship. Daughter says she doesn't consent to certain parts of their relationship. Specifically the open PDA. Why are you forcing her?

[@aduckofsomesort]

Being affectionate with your partners in public is one thing, being sexual with your partners in public is a whole other thing.

[@whitneybennett4857]

Yes, thank you! I don't care if you're gay, straight, bi, old, young, mono, poly, whatever. Anything more than a peck or some handholding with your partner(s) in front of other people (related or not) is both disgusting and inconsiderate.

[@jameyregier8054]

Did we just get a sneak preview for the next Hallmark movie?

[@Munthegun]

Markie… maaarkie. You don’t get the credit you deserve for being the best Reddit story reader on KZbin. Dude the way you read that second story is just… chefs kiss man 🤌 Cheers my dude.

[@brandytzu2747]

2nd story was a true romcom story.

[@NakaidaBeauzec]

Story 1 so you would be comfortable for them to behave like this in front of your /future children? Is there anyway your sister can live with you ?

[@janestewart9608]

Story 1: I feel for OP, but only on the flashing and "grandparents" bits. Imagine a scenario in which the parents figured out later in life they were gay but decided to stay married for the sake of the kids, and the things OP said would be outrageous. The flashing thing, to be clear, is DEFINITELY not okay. This needed to be a conversation about boundaries on overt sexualization of the relationship with others around, the same as it would be with any partner.

[@MakiPcr]

Story 2: sounds like a romance novel, so it's probably fake; but it's a fun one

[@chaseashley6775]

Guy in story 2: “she kissed me on the lips but idk how she feels about me”

[@ragrabbit101]

I work in a bar And sometimes people will go and try and hook up in the toilets or start heatedly making out in their seats. And it always pisses me off, because noone else consented to be a part of your sexual relations, and by hooking up in full show of everyone, you're forcing them to be a part (the audience) That's kinda what I feel with some of the calendar/flashing/making out parts of the first story. There are many issues that op has with the relationship. The fact that they're swinging isn't one. The fact that they're effectively forcing their kids to be passive participants (the audience) in their sex lives _is_ one. And that's part of what makes it wierd imo

[@eph2vv89only1way]

I LOVE the backgrounds you have been using lately

[@dianabialaskahansen2972]

Story 2 was so wholesome. :)

[@catpoke9557]

Story 2 was some Spy x Family level stuff

[@drakesnake330]

dang it, just one week without hearing about that COUCH, I will continue to comment each time you do that and shame you for breaking my brain. (lol this is becoming an hobby for me to spot the couch references)

[@Markee]

I did take a bit of a break from it there but it's too good not to mention

[@my-chemical-romance]

It sounds like they're their life partners, not friends

[@kat1722]

Platonic love is valid, my boyfriend and I have been in a long period of both being acesexual. I’m Demi anyway so it’s not really put a strain on our relationship and we both have health issues. I think none of us sexual love is still a thing, romance and love are not exclusive. Media shows sux with out love but you hardly ever depict romance without sex

[@dizzybee8966]

One of my favorite stories...this and tge Luna one

[@ladyofthelake93]

Does anyone desperately want to know what the blue spider was that the kid ate? I'm thinking one of those crafts pompoms lol

[@angierucinski5694]

Surely this us a troll post? To throw a grandchild out of a home? This is unimaginable.

[@nazurinrei]

NOT THE COUCH AGAINNNNN

[@cnnnnmxn]

Feels GREAT to be this early 🥳 Have a great day/night/sleep everyone 🧡

[@kat1722]

Surely if your in a relationship it would make more sense to give the others the room with the use of the house? I wouldn’t want to know what my parents do when dating people, I don’t care about that they might be doing hanky-panky but I wouldn’t want to see it either

[@beren171]

Cute last story 😊

[@amemooress6291]

Story 1: Nobody should be making out with anyone in public. Plz stop. At least stop around people who know you (unless you're all into that?!)

[@racqueldillon3560]

The second story sounds like indentured servitude.

[@danaeckelbarger8136]

I'm poly and those people are disgusting. You don't force your relationships on people who don't feel comfortable. PDAs of all kinds are gross.

[@mattdavis4248]

Story 1 - OP's parents are disgusting.