I Wanted More from The White Steam Deck OLED...

[@baldlyrudy]

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[@stevecast6515]

Valve has been very up front about the fact that they aren't going to be constantly upgrading and iterating every year, and they've made their reasons for that pretty clear. Feels like a bit of a strange take to be disappointed in them for being true to their word. Besides it's not like they advertised the white version as anything other than a cosmetic change.

[@baldlyrudy]

You're not wrong, but I can't help but want something more after the Steam Deck being in the market for so long. Even something as small as a RAM increase improves a good amount.

[@roundlake96]

@@baldlyrudy Have it really been in the market for long tho if we are being honest? Its younger then the current consol generations and do we need and want it to be like a generic phone lineup? A new and more expensive one every new year? Nah Im glad they are treating the Steam Deck more like old gaming gear when it comming to a longer life cycle. Wating to get my first steam Deck this week and Im pretty sure It will atleast be until 2026 before we se a new Steam Deck 2.

[@baldlyrudy]

@roundlake96 nah. Not every year. That's for sure. But that's definitely what CPU and GPU manufacturers do. What I'd want is maybe something every other year. Or even on the third year?

[@roundlake96]

@@baldlyrudy But the Steam Deck is not just a part, its a full system. No normal person swap their gpu or cpu every year. You wait until you get a good enough leep in performance and so far AMD has not done that when It comes to a Steam Deck 2. And splitting the system as you want makes it harder for devs to work with it and thus lowers the quality worse for its users. In generell we take progress for granted. Was not long ago it took a decade between consol generations. And money wise is it not better to get as much value as possible for your steam deck instead of feeling the need to swap to the next best thing?

[@TheScruffler]

@@baldlyrudy Steam Deck OLED was already an incremental update, and only came out a year ago. It sounds like you want an incremental update every year... Also, incremental updates are designed to drain your wallet, color variants are designed for collectors, or people who greatly value aesthetics. "This is designed to empty your wallet because they didn't give you a handful of little updates to convince you to buy it" is a WILD take...

[@MaNameizJeff]

20 seconds in... why? What logic in your head made you think a limited edition was going to have ANY kind of revision to its specs or design?

[@walterg74]

The higher price?

[@MaNameizJeff]

@@walterg74 That doesn't tell you anything. And it was obvious it was just a cash grab for the color. No additional specs were mentioned. None. Zilch. Nada.

[@drummerguy737]

I think you're missing the point here. Valve has been very upfront about not upgrading the Steam Deck until there is a massive bump in performance without sacrificing battery life. They also said they don't think it's fair to the consumer to release new hardware every 1-2 years. I do understand that the Steam Deck is underpowered compared to other PC handhelds, and of course I would love to see a Steam Deck 2 at some point - but this was not that. This was also not a refresh, the Steam Deck OLED was the refresh. This is just a limited quantity color option, nothing more. Were you dissapointed in Microsoft for releasing the Xbox Series S in black without upgrading the specs on it? I heavily disagree with your take here.

[@baldlyrudy]

That's fair.

[@antoan630]

Saying "what we have had for years" feels very nitpicky. The OLED was released a year ago. For someone like me, who has had the deck since launch and is still rocking an LCD model with worse wifi, battery, charging, screen ect. this IS an upgrade. You expecting " a little bit more" is just foolish. Were you also expecting more with the first limited drop? Why would valve release a "limited" edition product that's better as a system than the regular version? How would a customer feel if they just bought a deck and a better deck comes out for 50 bucks more for a limited time? Low effort nitpicks in my opinion.

[@baldlyrudy]

Hold up. The first "Limited" drop came out a year ago and launched alongside the original OLED line. This is one straight up out of the blue. Despite Valve saying that they had no improvements planned doesn't mean that I wanted nothing more than a color swap a year after the original launched. This is a handheld PC, not a Nintendo Switch.

[@antoan630]

@ other commenters on the video clearly think you’re overreacting too. Saying it’s been out for “so long” is crazy lol. It came out two years ago with a pretty successful revision a year later.

[@baldlyrudy]

@@antoan630 The revision was definitely an improvement in efficiency and not performance. When I say "so long", I mean almost three years. Computer hardware is refreshed annually, which isn't what I'm asking for. The Steam Deck LCD released in February 2022. The performance that we've seen has been the same since launch, which is, as I said, almost three years. Is it too much to ask for an improvement in performance (not efficiency), even if by the slightest?

[@antoan630]

@ is it too much to ask? One would argue no. Most would argue yes, it’s unrealistic and silly as you’re being proven by the rest of the comments. It’s KZbin and your channel with your opinions,absolutely nothing wrong there. But you shouldn’t be making it sound like there’s this huge disappointment in the community when the only person that really got disappointed is you.

[@fairphoneuser9009]

Why did you expect different specs? I don't really get it. Special Editions aren't different specwise usually...

[@baldlyrudy]

I just wanted something more. That's it. I know it's cosmetic, but even if it was a little more RAM would've been nice.

[@fairphoneuser9009]

@@baldlyrudy Well. I want a million dollars. But that's not how things work. Special Editions of any(!) tech usually isn't different specwise.

[@rafaelikenaga]

Agree, it’b be strange for Steam to touch on spec at this moment honestly, they just did it recently with the Oled. It’s a new color and it looks amazing, wouldn’t have expected anything else, unless they have marketed it

[@walterg74]

How about because they are charging more for the same thing in just a different color..?

[@fairphoneuser9009]

@walterg74 That's because it's a limited edition. Limited editions are limited! Thus the higher price!

[@rainbowdash3419]

you know that you messed up when people are calling you out for expecting more from white version of Steam deck.

[@danielbrown8657]

So first point would be valve did exactly what they promised. They promised the same device but in white. Because they didnt overdeliver like the OLED making other improvements in adition to a color change is fair. The title of your video calling it a cash grab is not because they provided exactly the product promised. A cash grab would be the ROG Ally the original product was extremely flawed the overheating SD cards should have been noted in testing or it was and they didnt fix it. Then less then a year later they fix it bump the price and do nothing for current owners. How could i trust that there is no known flaw in this product. If they did what you are proposing then it would be promoting a company releasing sub par products so they could "improve" it every six months to a year.

[@meric12131415]

Yup the ally x was definitely and still is a cash grab for sure they made a few marginal improvements and that's it along with fixing the SD card slot which they could have done anyway

[@Twisty-Twist]

I can understand a RAM upgrade could have been cool but it is possible to do as a DIY project. 16 GB is a fair amount of RAM and helps keep the price competitive. Like others have said this is just a special edition and valve has been quite clear that there are no other differences other than the colorway. The Steam Deck OLED release was the first upgrade we've had and there won't be another one for awhile.

[@Toki.Toki.]

Coming from someone who didn't own a prior steam deck and is finally dipping into it for the first time purely because of this white color, I would consider debuting an incremental hardware improvement in a limited edition model very anti-consumer. While it might be nice for people who intend on buying it anyway, for their existing consumer it exploits FOMO and locks this arbitrary upgrade behind a device worth $680+tax.

[@baldlyrudy]

That is true. For the record, I knew what I was getting into when I pulled the trigger and bought it. I was just hoping for some surprise. Did you get yours yet?

[@Toki.Toki.]

@@baldlyrudy currently in transit. Decided to pull the trigger after watching some unboxing videos on it like yours and others comparing to the rog ally x

[@baldlyrudy]

@@Toki.Toki. I have the Ally X and it's nice, but it's hard to compare the two. There are pros and cons to both.

[@meric12131415]

​@@baldlyrudytrue that

[@Armando_Aranda]

Is not everything we buy with money in this world designed to deplete our funds?

[@baldlyrudy]

That's.....accurate.

[@jaredweiman2987]

It won't get dirty. None of my white controllers are dirty because I wipe them down with 70% iso wipes once or twice a month and I don't eat food while using them. Clean your hands. Don't leave it sitting in the dirt.

[@Qrinity]

Idk it feels you expecting too much. Let Valve cook instead of small incremental improvements just coz they release a new limited edition akin to those switches

[@baldlyrudy]

It's odd for any company in the PC space to cook this long. I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm just saying that I expected a nice surprise or something.

[@Qrinity]

@baldlyrudy nothing wrong with that. Valve isn't a hardware company like other competitors like ASUS or boutique companies like ayaneo and their history of developing products or games just takes a long while to the detriment of the waiting consumers "cough" deckard "cough". While it would be nice to get more changes, such stability helps build consumer confidence and developers to support the device as a baseline of how games should be played for low mid spec pcs/handhelds.

[@gubenli1332]

Ok, I'm in Australia and when does my white SD arrive, I track the post multiple time a day, and there is no update.

[@TheScripflipNetwork]

I successfully purchased it. Mission accomplished

[@baldlyrudy]

Congrats! Hope you enjoy it man!

[@darkaks2165]

I got the White Edition. Is the Black border really that bad on the white ?

[@baldlyrudy]

For me, yeah. But that's because I have other Steam Decks that are all black. If this is the only one you have, it probably won't bother you at all. The handheld still looks clean and I like the aesthetics.

[@PHVSEDOFFICIAL]

@@baldlyrudy Yeah I got mine but stopped using it since i realized that in racing games the stick auto goes left for some reason. Gyro was disabled and still the same issue. Got both the ally x and the white steam deck.

[@darkaks2165]

@baldlyrudy yeah its my first deck ... It's funny how the limited came out when I was looking to buy 😂

[@B_Machine]

Assuming a new deck does not release next year, Valve will surely do another special edition. What color/design do you think they'd do? I think a Valve orange out in time for Halloween would be cool.

[@baldlyrudy]

You mention Orange, and I think Half-life. A Half-Life Edition would be cool.

[@Alxzvndxr]

does this edition also come with a custom steam profile? i really want the pink profile borders💘💝💖💗💓💞💕🌸🌺

[@baldlyrudy]

It seems like it does. Aside from the white keyboard and boot up animation, everything else is similar to the other Steam Deck profiles. You'll get that neon blue and pink hue around your profile border.

[@REDPILLDLUFFY]

Valve has already said dozens of times that they are not upgrading the tech of the steam deck until technology has improved enough to justify a total hardware upgrade. They were always upfront about this whether it would be on blogs KZbin channels, or their very own website

[@baldlyrudy]

Yup. I mentioned that in the video.

[@CraigHlavka]

I love it. Also, the steam deck 2 ain't coming for a while.

[@halcyonx1713]

Agreed the black bezel should had been white or light gray.

[@OblivionPrime]

I wish this limited edition had more ram and maybe overclock the APU a little

[@baldlyrudy]

Glad I'm not the only one.

[@devinnguyen258]

Do you know if the oled panel in this white edition is Samsung or BOE? Thanks

[@walterg74]

I wouldn't mind this one being "just a colour variation", but that's if they didn't want to charge me more for it than the black version.... Have had the money for a couple of months, was waiting to see if there was a sale on OLED. Then this LE came out and I wanted to jump at it, but... Didn't... Doesn't help that it has NOT sold out yet... Guess a lot of ppl are thinking the same. Still doubting if just to get it or get the "normal" Black OLED instead... Also doesn't help that they slashed the LCD one 25% this week, and you can pretty much get TWO 512GB LCD ones for what the OLED costs...

[@Den_dih]

Does it make sense to buy it now? Is it better to take asus ally x?((

[@baldlyrudy]

Depends on what you want. Do you already have a Steam Deck or are you looking at buying a PC Handheld?

[@Den_dih]

@@baldlyrudy There is nothing)

[@Den_dih]

@@baldlyrudy I like the steam deck, but I'm afraid there's not enough productivity

[@oscargomezrivera]

The shipping has been a mess, I paid for mine and it got delayed and rerouted to no end

[@ccharleh]

I think it's fine for new Steam Deck users or those who appreciate the aesthetic design. I was tempted to buy it, but I decided not to. I mean, it's just white-the exact same specs as the OLED Steam Deck 1TB (black) 😆

[@thatzaliasguy]

I just want a Steam Controller 2; and possibly Limited Edition variants of said controller.

[@walterg74]

For your "The future" section, that already exists. It's the ROG Ally X...

[@thomaszinecker1785]

A little ram update wouldn't even boost performance at all lol.

[@baldlyrudy]

Tell that to the Ally X.

[@tlaim]

I kinda want to get one and eat a bag of cheetos so it matches me SNES controllers from back in the day.

[@firexallst4rz277]

Yea I'm just going to wait for steam deck 2.

[@baldlyrudy]

Understandable.

[@firexallst4rz277]

@@baldlyrudy Thank you for understanding. 800p and only 90hz. That cant be justified.

[@unclebobby673]

The more they change up the hardware specs the less support it'll get from devs. Look at how devs have been talking about the Ally for example they don't trust that it will be supported long term so why put in that extra effort where as valve has shown they are dedicated to long term support and that's why we see steam deck setting baked into some games.

[@jasp2003]

Well i actually don’t have one and I would have got one if it didn’t sell out in country in 4mins

[@wallace8637]

Steamdeck is going good dor their not upgrading mid gen vs very often. Game industry need to slow down about graphical fidelity. Just look at swich. They gone full gameplay over graphics, and its paying off.

[@baldlyrudy]

I mean, the original Steam Deck came out in February of 2022. It's been almost three years. How long should we wait to see something as small as 24GB vs 16GB RAM?

[@sonitclef8675]

im personally waiting for the steam deck 3 in 10 years...

[@baldlyrudy]

Why not the Steam Deck 4 in 20?

[@sonitclef8675]

@baldlyrudy my version of good quality and my standards of having fun havnt evolved really since 2014 im just looking for 1080p and small without the issue it has now with poor battery life. i want the best version or a version where i cant really see them improving on anymore or that would make me go "i want that" i dont want to buy every generation because although gaming is still improving its not peaked yet especially pertable gaming. i think consol and pc has peaked for me which is why i stuck with the ps4 and xbox s. the jump from s -x isnt big enough to justify the $400 it costs and neither is the steam deck....yet im still rocking the psvita 2000 lol

[@sonitclef8675]

@baldlyrudy do you actually think gaming will be any different in 50 years... there will either be huge leaps in vr (more realistic) or portability (smaller but better), but consoles( even more realistic but at that point what is the point) will pretty much stay the same. i want to get the small and performance sweet spot and i think gpd win 4 is closer than steam deck but who know

[@patbateman69420]

Steam needs to come out with another deck. I haven't touched my deck since I got my Legion Go. The SD feels and looks like a toy.

[@baldlyrudy]

I understand that sentiment.

[@meric12131415]

Really?

[@Herr.Mitternacht]

Improvement of specs? They never said it would. Its calles Steam Deck OLED White.

[@baldlyrudy]

I never said that they did say there would be an improvement in specs. I simply said what I wanted. The video has a section about what I want in the future: 09:13

[@Herr.Mitternacht]

@baldlyrudy I've watched the whole video, and enjoyed it. Just the start threw me off a bit cause we can't be disappointed if we already knew what was coming. Valve said multiple times that they will only release a SD2 when a real generational improvement is technologically available.

[@baldlyrudy]

@Herr.Mitternacht 100% agree we already knew what we were getting. Maybe next time I'll do this all in reverse. 😅

[@edwinwelch1946]

i like the steam deck but its just really underpowered. I have a steam deck, ally, ally x and legion go and I use them over my steam deck because they can just play more. My Steam deck really struggles with modern AAA. I also have a custom backplate on my Steam Deck and was able to drop my temps by alot and has improved performance but its still behind other devices

[@sergiogonzalez6986]

My man they roasting you in the comments. I will say the quality of this video is very good. I do agree with you a little extra spec bump like ram or ssd could have help sell this. Now I’m not up to date w valve on what they are promising it is a good product just a bit pricey for me. I did try the legion go and it did get me interested in handhelds. I use the abxy s9 with a tablet and use moonlight to stream my games. For me that works great and it’s still cheaper than buying a hand held although my pc set up was a couple thousand two years ago. Regardless I did enjoy the video

[@baldlyrudy]

Thanks man. I appreciate it. Not sure why I'm getting roasted for sharing an opinion. The handheld is still good. And if you're considering a Steam Deck, the OLED is the way to go. I would just hope they would do something more with a new Limited Edition launching a year after launching the original OLED. Even a small bump. Nothing crazy.

[@Flipper-u5y]

I wanted one, missed out in au and refuse to support unethical price gougers. So now I'm like meh the white will just age bad anyway 😅

[@baldlyrudy]

A regular OLED is still a solid purchase.

[@Flipper-u5y]

@baldlyrudy too true😁

[@edwardlashley3572]

It ain’t draining my pocket book unless it gets more junk in the trunk… ei, more processing power. I’ve come to the conclusion that cloud streaming might just be the best application of a steam deck in this day & age. Yeah it can still play most games natively but other handhelds just play those same games better. Way better. But that doesn’t much matter if you cloud steam. lool. You can play the newest games on ultra settings in the cloud even if the system you are using to stream has the specs of a potato.

[@baldlyrudy]

I mean.....you've got a point.

[@edwardlashley3572]

@@baldlyrudy do you know how well Alan Wake 2 looks on a steam deck OLED while running at 1080p ultra setting? All you need is Gforce Now to find out ;)

[@edwardlashley3572]

And it’s running at 4 watts so imagine how much battery life you’re getting

[@baldlyrudy]

@@edwardlashley3572 yup. Makes it a much more viable handheld for longer play sessions.

[@Altimittkun]

I'll just buy the next Steam Deck, not these minor updates.

[@baldlyrudy]

It'll be a ways away. I'd probably go with a Windows handheld and get Bazzite on there.

[@deerock69]

The dirty factor is why I will not be partaking in the white model. Ever.

[@baldlyrudy]

Yeah. It's nice when you get it, but it gets dirty fast.

[@sonitclef8675]

@@deerock69 how does it get diety with a case? unless you dont wash your hands on a egular basis and clean it once a week with a wet-wipe it wont. when you take it with you to places i can see it gertting dirty but that doesnt mean it cant be cleaned?

[@Rpgist359]

I get PSOne vibes from the new model.

[@Afterlife_Podcast]

Seems like people are unnecessarily roasting you in the comments. Valve upgraded a lot of things with the first OLED edition, it isn't unreasonable to hope that they would with this edition. I get why they didn't, but it's logical to think they may consider it.

[@baldlyrudy]

Thank you. I don't think it's crazy to hope for something better.

[@mgmtz9146]

Garbage. I got mine and just didn't work

[@baldlyrudy]

Did you plug it in before trying to turn it on?

[@mgmtz9146]

@baldlyrudy yes it turned on . No controllers detected . Only power and volume . Touchscreen worked

[@baldlyrudy]

@mgmtz9146 did you update to the latest firmware?

[@Crazyflow24]

Give away :o

[@baldlyrudy]

It seems like you're the only person that got that far. 👀

[@Crazyflow24]

@baldlyrudy tell the wife u got a dedicated fan 🤣

[@baldlyrudy]

@@Crazyflow24 haha! Will do. 🙌

[@godtiermullet]

This thing is gonna look like shit after a year of use.

[@baldlyrudy]

Yeeeeeaaaaahhhh.....

[@aleksiejlublov7995]

Yes and "people die when they are killed" 😅 It was very obvious this is nothing more then a way to get more money for Gabens retirement fund. Also i have to respect the fact that they are sticking to their word and don't upgrade it every year which is a great thing for developers and one of the reasons they like it so much compared to rest. And i cant say this: in this case you're the architect of your own disappointment, P.s. Deck looks great in any color under the condition that color is black 😂 Giveaway isn't a bad idea but you would need to be sure person who it goes to will use it and not going to sell it for much higher price

[@baldlyrudy]

Eh. Not really. On paper, the OLED refresh was nice, but the sum of its parts in reality was far greater than what was advertised. I was only hoping for something more than what was advertised.