WHY IS THIS FINAL BOSS GIVING ME THE HANDS!?

[@orlanzo2621]

Ryo being in FF Special was a BIG deal back in the day, this was the first crossover in fighting games. People couldn't believe Ryo was in Fatal Fury. His appearance here is basically what started the idea for KOF.

[@truindividual]

Exactly correct, my good sir.

[@jhsrt985]

It was WAAAAY beyond monumental. Like sonic being in smash.

[@thefury617]

And also Geese was in Art Of Fighting 2.

[@yogafire646]

This. EGM set my mind on fire with that reveal.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It's two big achievements for fighting games to be more exact: Ryo in FFS started fg crossovers, and it served to show FF and AOF are set in the same timeline, which was a new world building idea in the early 90s - two different franchises that are directly related. I believe that was fresh even in the context of general gaming and not only in fgs. It was all set up: AOF1's console version has an exclusive extended ending that shows more of the connection of the events with FF through Geese. Then finally AOF2 (1994) makes everything clear. And between both releases came FFS (1993) teasing this connection with Ryo's appearance.

[@OrochiPops]

I love that everyone knows the lore behind this. SNK was doing shared universes before it was the in thing. They have the potential to build off of it so much.

[@datbigdude490]

The main reason why Ryo is in Special was to prove fans and players that Fatal Fury and Art of Fighting is in the same universe, especially Geese was the man who started it all

[@Fishman465]

Though by the time FF comes around, Ryo'd likely have become Mr. Karate II as AoF two was right before Jeff Bogart is killed. KoF instead lines up AoF era Ryo and the Bogards

[@TheStrategist314]

Not true. The MAIN reason was simply because the creator wanted to mix the roster in future games which is why it’s called a “Dream Match”. It has nothing to do with Geese or any of that lore, that was just an after affect.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

It could have been a different Southtown timeline, for example in the KOF timeline that was invented only later, but no, it was revealed that FF and AOF happen in the same timeline. FF is years after AOF.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@Fishman465 Yes, that is the inconsistency of Ryo's appearance in FFS. In AOF2, released a year later, there was no similar mistake and Geese was redesigned to be younger. Then in the late 90s Fatal Fury Wild Ambition was made to be a new kind of reboot/remake of the FF story, and it features an old Ryo. That idea reinforced the devs evolution and commitment to lore accuracy. It also proved that the devs actively make an exception for KOF as it has its own separate timeline, then in the "true" FF timeline they became serious about being accurate. We just had little opportunities for that, but if there were more AOF in late FF games, they probably would get an "aged" redesign. That is a very interesting thought.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

@@Fishman465 Back to FFS Ryo, to be totally fair that was the early 90s... everything done in AOF and FF was so groundbreaking and experimental, there was no reference available for SNK. To give a proper idea: by the time SNK was creating all these innovative ideas of crossovers and shared worlds and pushing forward the notion of fighting game lore, Capcom was still doing nothing but SF2 releases. AOF2, that fully displayed the shared timeline, was released before Super Turbo. And other companies only had one fg title at the time (1992-1993).

[@deathscythe9158]

You might think that Ryo being a secret character isn’t a big deal Justin, but Ryo being a guest character is what gave SNK the idea for King Of Fighters.

[@rustymixer2886]

They got idea from Karnov in fighters history

[@HotdogJuice]

It almost sad how under represented Ryo is in SNK. Those days of Art of Fighting 1&2 were something special.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The image of AOF itself was rotting away through the 90s, and following that a kind of gradual loss of respect for the characters. Like it's notable that after KOF 96 the AOF team became surrounded by pure (bad) comedic endings. They are treated as joke. But as AOF was still alive and well in the beginning of KOF, look how AOF is portrayed in the KOF 94 opening and overall in the whole game. The AOF team highlighted in the same level of dignity as the FF team. Also they are very strong in 94-95.

[@GamerGee]

I wished they made a aof4 I loved aof3

[@HotdogJuice]

@@carlosaugusto9821 Good point. I think the fireball, or rather lack thereof, damaged his appeal. I will also add that in KOF, every team had a front man, leader, or central character. It could also be seen in the effectiveness of moves. Kyo, Terry, Ralf, Iori, and Athena were clearly the most effective anchors of their teams. Ryo, to many, was somewhat overshadowed by Robert as Robert has traditionally been the most effective fighter.

[@shirakani]

@@HotdogJuice Only coz they went in a direction with Ryo that required far too high a skill level to be effective with him vs Robert who played like a shoto and was easier to get returns with. If they didn't make Ryo all about his parries and went in a more easier to use direction it would have been a different story. The real problem was the same one Capcom had with SF2: Ryo and Robert were identical like Ryu and Ken were and differenciating the two was a challenge.

[@shirakani]

@OptimusPriming If you think he was god in KOFXI, go try his KOF2k iiteration. You only need one move to win, his hcb+P Koho Shippuken. That move had the most RIDICULOUS active hitbox that allowed it to work as a... well... anti-everything move. It has a hitbox at the HEAD, when his back was turned... I had no words for how ridiculously broken that one move was.

[@novacounciloutsdrs4770]

I like how Ryo was free the first match and then he adapted lol.

[@MechaG]

And then he was a secret boss again, in Wild Ambition.

[@jkouga01]

My man!! Knows his shit !! 😎

[@amia7z]

The fact Ryo was in this game just as a teaser of the fact SNK realized they could just crossover their series is amazing. The fact they still use the "Dream Match" thing to this day is amazing

[@o_oro-q1k]

Dreammatches are probably not going to be a thing anymore

[@amia7z]

@@o_oro-q1k source?

[@o_oro-q1k]

@@amia7z By the fact that there's no need for them, with Verse bringing back every dead character in KOF. Not to mention if we were to have those then it would take forever for the games' stories to continue since we now get KOFs every 6-7 years.

[@amia7z]

@@o_oro-q1k the verse saga is reportedly gonna end next game, there's still a lot of characters they haven't brought back because of plot (Orochi), KOFXIV and XV only took that long since one of them was the first 3d game and the other had covid screw it up

[@SharonisCarin321]

@@amia7z Dream Match wasn't technically a thing til KOF 98

[@PikangsFutaba]

Ryo Sakazaki... while getting to his fight is kinda hard (and so he is hard), it really made the bases for KOF as a whole, of course, Geese would follow Ryo's example with his Nightmare battle in Real Bout Fatal Fury Special later on. Edit: You can ACTUALLY lose rounds (and matches)... but NO MATTER WHAT, all matches must end with a 2-0 or 0-2 rounds, if a single match ends with 2-1 or 1-2 you're screwed... and this was the same rule for Geese in Art of Fighting 2.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

I'm not sure but I believe Ryo was also the first secret last boss in fgs. I don't remember seeing one before in 1991 to 1993.

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The success of crossovers might have influenced Capcom to mix Marvel and Capcom starting with XvSF

[@Fishman465]

Big Bear is the face persona to Raiden's Heel persona. It's also an interesting look at Mai back when there wasn't a big forehead gap in her bangs and hours of JAVs weren't watched in making her sprite (KoFXIII was guilty). SNK was.infamous for its CPUs especially bosses like Ryo. "PREDICTABLE!" "TOO EASY!" The Geese counter experience. At least you didn't jump into a raging storm.

[@o_oro-q1k]

I really hope they have a secret dreammatch battle with Ryo in the new Garou as a tribute, would love to see how they would tackle this stage in 3D too

[@carlosaugusto9821]

If that happens, using the same stage imo would be the bad kind of throwback. Ryo is a mature master in the FF story and I think he needs a stages that better matches that stage of his character.

[@o_oro-q1k]

@@carlosaugusto9821 Right, maybe a slightly modified version with a more mature air around it

[@Dewani90]

@@carlosaugusto9821 I think Takuma/Mr.Karate's stage from the first AoF would do just fine... looked like an old and respectable dojo.

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

I want that so badly!

[@gonzalotorres5282]

As Mr. Karate II

[@7woundsfist]

Mr. Karate II! Put some 'spect on his name son! I remember having a fatal fury cabinet in my high school in the 90's. Good times man.

[@greensun1334]

FF Special is my favourite Fatal Fury. Also the 32 megabit sized SNES port is well done and absolute worth to play, it was a huge deal back then!

[@JaimeAGB-pt4xl]

This is the FIRST Dream Match/Crossover in Fighting Game history

[@GamerGee]

I love that ryo had his aof1 voices. That long uuuuuooaaaaaah. Death is hillarious. I wish he had that in kof94

[@tpatt513]

I'ma put it like this... to this day KOF '95 Ryo was one of thee toughest non boss characters I ever faced. He was damn near on Street Fighter II Sagat level. The certified classic that you're playing is the reason why. Sure Fatal Fury is the Original KOF based on its title but Fatal Fury Special is the Blueprint for KOF. GREAT TIMES PLAYING THIS GAME!!!

[@carlosaugusto9821]

The thing is that the early Ryo was a legend in the SNK world. He was strong in AOF and became much stronger by the time of FF. The perfect canon image of that is in Wild Ambition. Then KOF was made and after 95, when the KOF lore really took off, the AOF elements started being kinda badly treated. Since then they are seen as comedic relief material in that world. Like Ryo got hard nerfed particularly when he was op in 94-95, and stayed with his Dan fireball even though the other AOF chars regained long range fireballs later (like Robert in 99), as if he was being targeted and made to look uninteresting on purpose. And almost all their endings since then are for jokes (and not even good jokes).

[@tpatt513]

@@carlosaugusto9821 Yup. Comparing him to Dan is unnecessary.

[@MegaShingo97]

Street Fighter II Sagat level ?? He might not of been really strong then....

[@tpatt513]

@@MegaShingo97 that's why I said damn near. Getting caught with those uppercuts and the health bars weren't very kind back then. LOL.

[@h.m.5724]

Which SF 2 because there's WW, CE & HF

[@isaiahhellems7901]

It's because of Ryo's game Art of Fighting that certain innovation was made in Street Fighter and other fighting games. Like super moves. Art of Fighting did it first. Ryu himself added moves to his move list because Ryo had them first actually.

[@persona83]

Super moves, taunts, special bar, a secret boss, pre-battle dialogs... a shame it's so easy to forget it all started in AOF.

[@isaiahhellems7901]

@@persona83 Exactly my friend. Spread the word.

[@ksolo614]

@@isaiahhellems7901 Isn't the creator of KOF the creator of the original Street Fighter ?

[@Lloydo111]

This was legendary back then!! Man golden age of fighting games with these iconic SNK titles left and right 😩🔥 this was significant back then because no fighting game was doing crossovers and stuff! please Justin keep SNK stuff coming!

[@PedroAndrade25]

Played this game and Super Street Fighter II to exhaustion on my SNES. Good times man...

[@sladejosephwilson2300]

THANK YOU Justin. I have waited for this boss fight for a while.

[@Saikyokugen]

Justin: "Why would Ryo be a secret character?!?" Ryo Sakazaki: "You will learn some respect from The Invincible Dragon." 🐉🥋👊👺

[@nexxusty]

10:02. This music blew me away when I first heard it as a kid. Absolutely love Geese's theme.

[@Ikariaregularuser]

Ryo is in Fatal Fury Wild Ambition too, but as Mr. Karate II

[@oreore949]

Ah yes, the first ever guest character in all of fighting games. You GOTTA be excited for him. He's a big deal, he's responsible for KOF, Smash, every crossover fighter ever...well, maybe that's an exaggeration, but he WAS first.

[@o_oro-q1k]

I mean you're not wrong

[@carlosaugusto9821]

Ryo was a secret boss before Akuma in SF2 and a guest character before Akuma in X-Men, who also served to plant the seed of Marvel vs Capcom in that game. Capcom only made that move after the creation of KOF, that debuted before X-Men COTA in 1994.

[@oreore949]

@@rainofkhandaq6678 Reptile wasn't the first guest character, he was the first secret character.

[@rainofkhandaq6678]

@@oreore949 Well there's my L of the day 💀

[@brendaspence1824]

I believe the reason many give ryo so much shit?…….cause he’s a blatant ryu clone.now I know what you thinkin,there are so many ryu clones,but nah,ryo was just……a total clone you could see how little effort there was besides a few tiny differences.his personality as taking martial arts serious is even exactly the same

[@dannycr06]

Geese's air fireball should've been named "Predictaball" 😆

[@ClexYoshi]

I like that Justin came into this not thinking about the importance of when Fatal Fury Special was released and that Ryo being in this game is the genesis of KoF.

[@jjenk911]

Maskless Raiden is Big Bear. He took off the mask and went with a heel persona after losing the last tournament. I'm happen that Raiden/Big Bear is based off of one of my favorite wrestlers of all time: Big Van Vader or just Vader.

[@musclemark2710]

Excellent video! Brought back lots of memories and realized how far we have come to fighting games today! That Ryo blue Hadoken is ridiculous!

[@paloddinkhanhueso3432]

hadoken?? You mean haoshokoken?

[@alexdms9215]

It looks like Papa Jubei is feeding her underweight granddaughter with pepperoni pizza.

[@rzone317]

He brought back a lot of memories. He was surprise he show up and it's like no way... When u were a kid that it would been a holy moly moment... Wow. And you would be super surprised that you are fighting against him

[@JimGryp]

i used to love this game more than Street Fighter 2 as a kid, especially for being more challenging

[@ROMIMATICO]

Este juego tiene una dificultad sumamente elevada incluso en nivel 4, que es en el que lo jugo y vendria siendo normal, en nivel 8 es casi imposible de pasar, el rival reacciona en menos de 1 frame, siempre hace una jugada para contrarrestar tus movimientos, utiliza mucho mas y exacto el golpe con esquivo, tiene daño de ataque amplificado y tasa reducida de daño, saludos y divertido video como de costumbre

[@ThatFreikugel]

Jesus those fireballs from Ryo do so much damage lol

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Big Bear: "Ready...?" *Shoulder Tackle*

[@MrTubeStuck]

Prolly just me but Justin giving Ryo shade hurts my soul. Ryo was my gateway drug into KoF and is still my favorite character. :)

[@kingstarscream320]

It’s so refreshing to see more Chinese KZbinrs

[@shinjoni]

Congrats to the winners and thanks Justin for doing the giveaways!

[@wannytiggah]

Just snooping in to say that Laurence Blood has never been an AOF character 👀 According to lore, he's Wolfgang Krauser's right hand.

[@rayromero815]

I always liked how it made a crazy sound after KO'ing your opponent

[@Chadius]

This took me a bit too long to realize "hey this is SNK fighter's first cross over, right? Ryo is the protag of Art of Fighting!"

[@isaiahhellems7901]

Gotta put some respect on Ryo bro. I know know you are a Capcom boy but you will learn soon enough of the Haoh Shokouken and Ryuhaku Ranbu. Ryo is cool.

[@jessiebessie3616]

OMG Justin Wong finally touching Fatal Fury Special !!! Father of Fighting Games be blessed :^D

[@eddylex4921]

Ryo being in a Fatal Fury game planted the seeds that led to the King of Fighters series. Jubei is always trying to grab Mai lol. Next time try it without the save states.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

9:29 An assist from The Taurus

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Wong: "That DP looks weird because it looks like he does it with the elbow..." Me: Agreed...

[@JCM-x84]

I like how Ryo is kinda like the elder statesman of all of the fighters, since his game takes place in the 70s before damn near all of the other events in the other SNK fighters happened. It makes sense that he's been in Fatal Fury and Buriki-One and he even became Mr Karate in Neo-Geo Colesseum.

[@thiago4santos]

Jubei is just a little stronger than the usual grappler.

[@MegaShingo97]

Ryo, the reason why i've bought FF Special instead of 2.

[@shirakani]

No matter what game, 'Geese ni kakitori' is always going to be the best BGM.

[@ShaneDouglas713]

10:12 Geese: *"TOO PREDICTABO!!!"* 😈

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Wong: "I'm not trying to get hit by Predictable..." 10:49 Me: You were saying? 😏

[@RegularGuy1998]

The idea of the KOF series started here Also i would like to see you try AOF 2

[@anna5273]

Yeah you a little young for the SF vs FF years. But I'm sure they had cabinets at Chinatown Fair.

[@augusthermes6740]

I see Ryo in the thumbnail, the question's already be answered. MUSOU OUGI!!!!! ORAORAORAORA!!!!!! 10:10 I now regret only having 2 and not special. PREDICTIBO. 14:00 Sasuga, Editor-sama.

[@SamSarracino]

Beautiful thing that you've recently made videos on my favorite two characters ever: Ryo and Oro.

[@SharonisCarin321]

glad you are checking out Fatal Fury Special! Justin if you think Ryo is hard Try getting the requirements to fight the Twins in Fatal Fury 3 Yamazaki is already a pain in the ass to deal with as is

[@Deadlift4chips]

Final boss pain never ends.

[@zengram]

Krauser stage music is sooo awesome!

[@MichaelHarto]

Joe higashi: "tiger in a car!"

[@ShaneDouglas713]

9:15 *EMOTIONAL DAMAGE!!!!* 💀

[@xxthecreativekitsunexx7966]

If it were not for Ryo being in FF Special there would not be KOF today. It was unheard of to see cross overs in games in fighters back n the 90s. Besides the hidden specials or back then they were called Last Ditch moves, FF Special helped to bring some mechanics to modern day fighters. I remember seeing about Ryo being in FF Special in the SNES game and was super psyched to get him. I thought it was purely a TAKARA exclusive but found out it also in the arcade version as well. Spent SO many quarters trying to get to Ryo but the game was just brutally difficult.

[@abdulhammouda4884]

Oh man that takes me back. That game I remember as a kid feeling was the bloody hardest I'd ever played!

[@paulj5336]

Be great to see you play through some of the SNK and Capcom 16 bit ports.

[@Left4JokerRPG]

Try Fatal Fury 2, since the bosses are not playable they are way harder. I bet Krauser will not be free on that one.

[@nobacasanova]

Fatal Fury Special needs more spotlight and I still don't know why it has a special niche following like seeing in Mikado @ Takadanobaba has like 8 cabs of Fatal Fury Special in it and streams kind of regularly. Also cool that even some players try lobby in FFSP Fightcade after a day's work Normal linking combos remind me of SF4 when I play this and I'm glad the stun here is not as random in SF2

[@persona83]

I was about to mention that. I love Mikado channel's FFS streams.

[@CailMacDonald]

Save states? Lol. I did this as a kid legit on my snes back when this game was a rental. Took a few rentals mind you lol

[@SuperEarther]

and fun fact you can pick ryo in the snes and mega cd versions of fatal fury special

[@DemonChildCC]

Laurence is Krausers second in command, or a bodyguard(as if Krauser needs a bodyguard).. Big Bear is Raiden(based off of Big Van Vader).. and if i remember, you cant lose any rounds if you wanna fight Ryo..

[@HanMasho]

Yo, Justin! You really need to check out Real Bout Fatal Fury 2 - The Newcomers. That game is really something special with its style, presentation, and general game feel. I'm pretty sure it's one of Matt McMuscles favorites; he'll back me up on this one if you ask him.

[@rossonwright3423]

So true Orlanzo preach on brother! I remember that like it was yesterday

[@deadlyraver4454]

man, when you beat up Lawrence blood, I just want you to know that you have gained revenge for EVERY person who spent their quarters/yen/tokens in countless pizza places/arcades/laundromats and Everywhere else I missed. Thanks man. You really did the oldschool a big one by putting him to shame.

[@biglou143]

Fatal Fury was cool but i just didnt like that you can go side to side. I didnt know how to combo off of it

[@striderhanzo]

On the SNES, The AI Had no idea how to Fight Ryo and just ate fireballs for days.

[@taskanawa9604]

congrats for all winners, lets go

[@justdointhisforthegames]

o snap first? lol fatal fury special owes me like 25 dollars in bowling alley quarters

[@jahdorose8659]

Happy new year buddy

[@ShaneDouglas713]

Wong: "That move is kinda cheap..." Me: Well he is a *bullfighter* so...🤷‍♂️

[@ray1amuro350]

8:05 "Lunch is here?" Lol!

[@hugejackedman3447]

He's even BETTER in "FF:Wild Ambition"

[@pringleskingpin2537]

"If he would've grabbed me while in Block Stun,I would've quit the game" He actually can... it whiffed cause it can't hit crouched.

[@kendonl.taylor5111]

@Justin Wong It's Raiden, not Rayden.

[@MrCactuar13]

"If he grabbed me during block stun, I would have quit the game, bro" Don't let Justin know about the TMNT Tournament Fighters meta

[@nicktronson2977]

packin-a-mack-in-back-ada-ack

[@hmmBEEFY]

Congrats to the winners of the giveaways

[@katelynnsgiraffe6456]

finally. been waiting for this.

[@916kev]

You give those hands right back jwong

[@ShaneDouglas713]

7:37 Grisly, although the r does look like a y in that font...

[@vividleo]

I love Mai Shiranui! ❤

[@guyyoung4388]

Ryo was Ryu for snk, but when kof took over, yea, that kinda stopped

[@Saixjacket]

BRO THE BULL MIX UP FROM SF6 GOT IT FROM THIS GAME?!?! 😂😂😂😂😂

[@jasminemrayo8646]

Congrats to the winner ❤️

[@gungriffen]

He's playing level 4, "Normal". SNK difficulty goes to 8.

[@DjDizzy216]

9:10 Bro your edits are a riot

[@Jacob-of2fo]

Watching this really brought back vivid yet painful memories of how cheap and frustrating this game was.

[@rgeluzable]

I remember Fatal Fury specifically because I smashed my Genesis controller and had to explain to my parents why they should buy me another one.

[@rixcrudolopez3339]

Awesome ,the invincible dragon 🐉

[@GamerGee]

13:36 the invincible dragon. 14:34

[@Darkogazza]

"Oh no!" Best editing.

[@New-ip4ux]

FF special is great game

[@tekkamanviper2783]

just like theres the secret boss the Ref in Samurai Shodown 2