Ian Dunbar: Dog-friendly dog training

[@Brightdog]

Dr. Ian Dunbar, one of the best in the world. Thanks for everything you have done for all of us dog trainers.

[@texasdevildog2301]

Thank you for being a sensible voice in a chaotic world. And an advocate for dogs.

[@TimpanistMoth_AyKayEll]

Great man, great talk. If only everyone who owned a dog could hear this and take it to heart. Dr. Dunbar is the genuine article.

[@goldenpaws_-fw5yw]

This speech was so refreshing for me. I don't know why people still believe that punishment or corrections must be used to get a dog to behave. It is simply not true. There will be someone that disagrees with me of course, but my dogs have brilliant off leash control and an amazing relationship that cannot be earned through force.

[@-LocoBolon]

simple, ppl still belive in corrections because the ones that actually work with dogs they put it to the test and they KNOW it works

[@steveperryman8102]

​@@-LocoBolonYou miss the point. If you want to enrich the dogs life you don't make it scared of you and act like a prison warden to a prisoner dog. Instead of appeasement "love" you will get proper love and trust, but most importantly you won't have a slave for a companion. If that's what you want you shouldn't have a dog imo.

[@beastinblack4055]

Same here my dog runs back to me with total joy

[@michelle.k9trainer]

13 years on and still the world's best trainer! Such a remarkable man 👏

[@Retrieverman1]

Everyone needs to listen to this fellow. He should be on television. He was once on Patricia McConnell's old Petline show, which I also loved.

[@goober239]

I love reading your blogs!

[@DeletedDelusion]

I only wish that these important interaction skills one day will be taught in school. The sooner the better.

[@nir913]

Not sure about dogs but parents should watch this to know how to raise their kids.

[@rza139]

nir913 Training dogs with operant conditioning was actually adapted from human behavioral psychology. More parents SHOULD watch this

[@DgtlDiva]

God I would love if this man would offer a MasterClass - would be amazing

[@jaymillwall]

mans a genius,been to his seminars,loved them.

[@rogersmmr]

Ian Dunbar is AMAZING!! I've read his books, but never heard him speak. He has revolutionized what we know about animal training. 5**

[@iglooworkshop]

He is so right, and yet it's sooo easy to forget his message.

[@barbarakelly4765]

What a great way of training - I've done some wrong things with my dog and I've learnt a lot from watching this video - thanks so much.

[@-LocoBolon]

No it's not, it's a blatant lie. He is already admitting how his incompetence got a troubled dog put away and it's a known story: this fairy tale brainwash training system for dogs doesn't work at all. IT DOES NOT HELP dogs with disfunctional behavior .

[@m.z.593]

@@-LocoBolon well then please enlighten us with your scientific background and principles please

[@-LocoBolon]

@@m.z.593 only if you ask niceliy :)

[@m.z.593]

@@-LocoBolon please?:)

[@-LocoBolon]

@@m.z.593 yes sure why not. what this man is talking about is a well known dog training method based on a moral stance that disregards many facts about dog's hierarchical behavior. In spanish is known as "Adiestramiento en Positivo" (positive training) and is kind of a school of thought in dog training. They assert any dog can be trained withouth the need of ANY correction or negative consecuenes for unwanted behavior whatsoever.

[@housetrainapuppy]

By knowing our dogs' perspective, we can build their love and trust. It's a message that resonates well beyond the animal world.

[@Lanceitc]

Ian Dunbar has done so much for positive dog training thankyou sir 🙏

[@SensationalBanana]

I do hope that Ian can be seen on TV soon again, we need someone who can show that Cesar Millan is not the way since his followers are so fanatical and only seem to believe something if they see it on TV!

[@-LocoBolon]

Go get a dog with behavioral dinfunctions and try to work with him and surprise! you will see this ignorant Dunbar is full of lies... why ? because he never worked with dogs! he just write books with cute words idiots like to hear,.

[@octave9029]

@@-LocoBolon Have you even read his books? And what do you define as cute words? Your grammar is absolutely awful and seemingly quite “cute.” Critique your own words before you critique others.

[@kiddykat]

@@-LocoBolon he has worked directly with *thousands* of dogs, including dogs with severe behaviour issues He worked with Guide Dogs UK to help them revolutionise their training program so that their amazing, life saving dogs are no longer trained with force and has even worked with police dogs

[@-LocoBolon]

Nah man, all his theory, all that he say in this video is wrong or a lie, it does not work for recovering dogs with behavior issiues. It works for training well educated, balanced dogs, to teach them to do something new, like police dogs, or competitions or dogs that perform rescue jobs. But those dogs are fine already, many ways of teaching will work with them. But for the ones that are un trouble, that live in poor enviroments, have disfuntional behaviors, have anxiety to the roof and are basically sick from and emotional and behavioral point of view, all these pretty words and silly ideas dont help them. Its not myself alone, many dog trainers around the world that work every day with different dogs helping them get over their issues and go back to a healthy state of mind we know it already, theres already enough evidence and data about it. I don't recall talking about hierarchy not even once during this extensive talk. But instead he talked about how one of the dogs he trained end up dead after his '4-hour-long-stay-command- method' did not worked at all (what a shoning surprise btw). A f$¿^=king liar and an ignorant giving lessons to the rest of the world, get the f$

[@kiddykat]

@@-LocoBolon eh I learned a lot of his methods under one of his students in the early 2000s as a shelter volunteer working with traumatised shelter dogs, many with severe reactivity and bite histories, all slated to be behavioural euthanasia if they couldn't be rehabilitated Using his methods *hundreds* of dogs going through that shelter were rehabilitated and rehomed as happy, recovered pets... Thanks to the shelter's very careful screening and matching protocols they had very few coming back too as those owners all trained alongside their new dogs and new how to maintain a positive relationship with them One of the biggest things I learned from Dr Dunbar is that Positive does not mean Pushover, you can still have boundaries, you still expect obedience and the dog to follow your rules - you just don't use pain or intimidation to communicate those rules You teach the dog how to understand what you want, you communicate in ways they can understand and you set them up for success That is hardly revolutionary

[@kev3d]

My parents have two Border Collies, talk about easy dogs to train; they practically train themselves. They were housebroken in almost no time and learned commands in a few months. BUT they are extremely sensitive dogs that require LOTS of attention and a big yard to run and play. They are very happy dogs, but only because both my parents have home based businesses and can throw toys and play several times a day. People ought to know what they are getting into when they get a dog.

[@PassThePopkorn]

and the shock collar was to save a dog's life, a dog that was obsessed with chewing tractor tires, and previously had its eye pop out of her head as she was crushed by it once, yet still continues chasing it. The collar was set to a mild setting, not enough to cry out in pain or convulse but to surprise it when it gets near the tires in a way not associated to thw owner's correcting the dog, but to the tires.

[@Dehzee]

I thought this was a beautiful talk, the segue into the similarities of how we treat animals and how we behave in the family unit was brilliant. As was his observation that people who are in a position of power over others would do all of society a service if they stopped using intimation and betrayal of trust as control tactics. I very much appreciate this post.

[@GreatDaneCourse]

I share Ian's vision for the future! Understanding and accepting your dog for what he/she is is the first step to being able to mold them into a pleasant companion. Be the leader and teach by example.

[@nikiosko]

Ian Dunbar! This is one of the most impressive speeches about dogs I can imagine and I can comprehend!

[@-LocoBolon]

yes, besause you know nothing about dogs!

[@nikiosko]

@@-LocoBolon Perhaps, but I know a thing or two about insecure wangrods.

[@-LocoBolon]

@@nikiosko yes good for you, I work with dogs and I'm always trying to study and learn from other professionals that work in the same field and I know for a fact (it is well known by pros in the field) this well known "method" DOES NOT WORK to solve any behavioral issues. It's just a bounch of lies and desinformation that sound cool.

[@nikiosko]

@@-LocoBolon great, I am very inclined to believe your one-sided argument (to which you have provided no tangible proof anyhow) after you started with "yes, besause you know nothing about dogs! " Maybe get a clue about how to correctly structure an objective, scientific argument before posting. Your smooth brain is showing.

[@-LocoBolon]

@@nikiosko Dude the man is telling you himself, the dog he wroked with for long ended up DEAD. And when you listen to what was his method to try help the dog with the problem he has, it's like ...."ye no wonder why the poor animal ended up like that". People like this man earns a ton of money writting fairy tale books and selling stupid ideologies that are lies and do not work for the purpose he claim they do. You don't need to be a master of dogs or anything for that matter to spot a liar you just need to be good at listening and thinking. Should I say it again? The only example this misserable provides is a dog that eded up dead ffs!!! This scamer never worked with dogs, his business is selling books and giving conferenes, my god.... For me, in my experience, Upstate Canine Academy is the kind of knowledge and people to whom I would listen (and WATCH work!) to learn something about Real dogs and behaviour bye byee

[@dogert66]

(technically you cannot train purely positive which I should have said). In fact a growing number of military working dog and police dog trainers are realizing they get more reliable and faster results with their dogs when they use only these two quadrants of learning.

[@DreamComeTrueK9]

@heartdogs i think that what you both need to see is that just like for dogs there is a time and a place....its applies to us as well...there is a time and a place for different "approaches"..and depends on what you are dealing with...both work to an extent depending on when and where and why you use it

[@AnnainAwe]

???How??? can this video NOT have several hundred thousand views!!!?

[@saramations]

Great talk. The behavior dunbar is speaking of in the very beginning about being “abusable” is called fawning, part of the “4 fs”. Fight, flight, fawn, and freeze.

[@sorinbraga]

I love it. Mr. Dumbar is amazing !

[@isacris34]

HE'S UNBELIEVABLE!!!!very nice speech...thanks

[@PauloRicardo-os1qh]

Principio de primack ; o que era distração se torna recompensa do comportamento .

[@efraimhernandez9134]

I have a teacher that says that dogs in rich countries live better than children in poor countries... When I find out that people put so much resources on educating their dog, like this man here and his followers, I kinda understand what my profesor means.

[@DannieJensen]

One of the best talks ever. Thank you

[@mconn2112]

I am always amazed at the human expectations people put on dogs. Great vid.

[@longtail4711]

Wise man. I wish more bosses would use positive reinforcement on their employees. All the best bosses I've ever seen were the ones who were more than happy to tell someone when they did a good job...and they'd have the smoothest working departments you've ever seen with productive employees.

[@edster612]

Dunbar has it right. Distractions can be reinforced as rewards, and dogs will "get it."

[@snuggliepuppy]

would love to meet Ian Dunbar, he's amazing

[@iTruth1]

its amazing, dog training is literally common sense and so many people just seem to be disconnected to their pets.

[@rmcdaniel423]

There is a lot of bitching back and forth between folks who favor this guy and folks who favor Cesar Milan. I'll just add this little tidbit to the mix. Dunbar is all about using his method of training from early puppyhood on up. That's his thing. Cesar came to fame because he had a knack for dealing with "red zone" dogs that are far beyond that impressionable age. At around 8:15 Dunbar tells the story of reluctantly agreeing to work with a "red zone" dog (Cesar's term, but it applies in Dunbar's scenario). The best he could get was a series of down-stays with the owner using a calm but insistent, ie "assertive" demeanor. (Does that sound familiar?). Then the dog was euthanized. But for that one afternoon there was progress. Interesting that Dunbar was using Milan's strategy in that scenario. My point is that I believe BOTH Dunbar and Milan have value in the dog behavior world. They just happen to work in two very different arenas of the behavior spectrum. Dunbar molds behavior from the beginning. Milan brings dogs, and more importantly their OWNERS, back from the edge so that Dunbar can take over where the training previously failed. Notice that EVERY episode of Cesar's show repeats the mantra of how you should be enlisting the aid of a professional trainer. To make an analogy, Dunbar is the smoke alarm, the exit strategy, the care taken with candles, the locking up of matches, the repair of faulty wiring, etc. . . Milan is the fire department. Both are useful.

[@mookymook3800]

Very well put. I am new to learning about Dr Dunbar and hope to keep learning more. Still, its hard to argue against the results of Cesar M so i will keep his techniques in the tool kit.

[@ChrisLeeX]

Wow, I cannot believe how arrogant and lofty this Dunbar guy is.

[@r.b.4611]

Chris Lee I don't'see it at all. He has about 40 years experience, is a veterinarian, a behaviorist and something else I've forgotten. Could it be that you, having not absorb enough information and experience are actually the arrogant one, balking at a great learning opportunity? Go to Dog Star Daily for more free Dunbar videos.

[@edmontonwmcc7501]

+rmcdaniel423 I can see where you're coming from but it doesn't hold up. Ian Dunbar has science behind him. Cesar Millan does not. A lot of Cesar Millan's techniques are actually detrimental for the dogs involved. Cesar doesn't understand how dogs learn, he can't read dog body language, and I have seen him get bitten for provoking a dog. To use your analogy, (hard because dogs are living creatures) Dunbar is about educating about fire, both safety and resopnsible use, how fire works and how to get it to do what you want. Cesar throws pyrotechnics on a fire, says 'It's Red Zone!' then burns everything around the fire so it has no choice but to go out, then he neglects to check for smouldering embers and doesn't bother to find out what caused the fire in the first place.

[@edmontonwmcc7501]

+Mooky mook Cesar Millan is a professional actor not a pro dog trainer. Follow your brain. Get educated. Part of you seems to be unconvinced by Cesar's (supposed) results. Listen to it :) Check out Kikopup, Nando Brown, Jean Donaldson (currently reading her book Culture Clash) to begin with :) P.s. anyone ever wonder why the clients on Cesar's show all have to sign a non-disclosure agreement????

[@deemon710]

Incredible presentation. I want whatever he's written.

[@Aj-uq1uw]

I just found out about this guy seems great! Although i never heard some of these abuse cases its crazy to think i have seen a lot i believe in positive and balanced training.

[@mydogkanskidrums]

@charismatickidtv Dr Ian Dunbar is a good place to start! Apart from that, my favourites are: Dr Patricia McConnell, Kiko Pup AKA Emily Larlham, Jean Donaldson, Grisha Stewart, Karen Pryor and many more. They are all authors and on a number of available DVDs. They all know their stuff about learning theory, how to apply it to animals, and have a proven track record. They don't all have flashy TV shows with hours of editing and a great PR team though ;)

[@zDreamerkid]

I find it fascinating that dog training relates so well to many other areas in life. This is awesome stuff right here :] It really gives a broader view on what to do in different situations.

[@katesuisted]

Most excellent presentation... very refreshing and so very logical. Many thanks.

[@bennguyen1313]

I wonder what Ian thinks of those clickers for training animals/humans... for example, in the recent Hidden Brain Podcast ('When Everything Clicks') they talk about the psychological baggage that goes on when someone is being taught. Instead of focusing on mastery of the task, the student is often thinking about what the teacher thinks of them.. are they learning too slow, how do they comparing with others, etc. The use of a clicker appears to remove some of this baggage. (39m28s) Also, the Ted Radio Hour Podcast that had Ian Dunbar, also had good segments with Laurel Braitman and Frans de Waal. They talk about how mental disorders can also be observed in animals.. for example, the OCD/anxiety behavior that dogs exhibit when left alone, or how birds pluck themselves featherless. Like Robert Spalosky suggests in 'Are Humans Just Another Primate', even the most 'human' of traits, compassion, empathy/synchronization, fairness, reconciliation, can be observed in animals.

[@christopheclugston]

You are out of teh loop--he was part of all of that

[@dogert66]

Exactly what I was going to say. Also, if the dog had already put people in the hospital and bitten a child, it was only a matter of time before someone requested that law take action against the dog regardless of the owners' or Ian's wishes. Judges go by histories, not current behavior, and this dog's was pretty dang bad.

[@mydogkanskidrums]

@H15A5H1 Real dog behaviourists are the ones who use motivational methods like food, toys etc. And if you listened closely to what Dr Dunbar was saying, it wasn't that he couldn't help the dog but it was the owners who were not putting the time and effort into their dog. Without an owner's compliance, it's very difficult to make headway into serious behaviour issues. That dog was probably on a court order to be euthanised, so it was out of Dunbar's hands when the owners made mistakes again.

[@dogert66]

What do you mean by competitive background? Dr Ian Dunbar (as hinted by the Dr) has a PhD and multiple other degrees in ethology and veterinary science. He was the original Dog Whisperer and one of the biggest people in the science based purely positive training "movement".

[@musicofnote1]

What a question - google is your friend. Dr. Dunbar is the founder of the modern socializing puppy class concept. He is a vet, a vet behaviorist, was the second person ever to have had his own TV show about dog training. He has written many books, articles etc. and has the only long-time study about pet dogs' social hierarchies (as opposed to people like Ray Coppinger who have studied feral and semi-feral dog social structures and ethologies. Good thing all this info is out for anyone to see.

[@musicofnote1]

And it is rather amusing, if I understand you correctly, to assume that only people who do what you do with dogs have a clue about training dogs. Time to look up, smell the coffee and admire the work others have done in areas you cannot even imagine. And start imagining it. Wonderful demonstration at this year's Crufts of positively trained gun dogs. Of the 8 dogs being shown, 3 were Field Trials champions. No trick, just working dogs - real dogs. Well trained and without need of force.

[@dogert66]

Ditto, as you can see in other comments below. ;) I can understand that, but I hope someday you try it out in regard to things less imperative. Trainers that are able to use punishment based methods successfully typically make very successful positive trainers since both require knowledge of a dog's intention and good timing. That's why there are so many awesome crossover trainers!

[@rickcaran]

wonderful theories, and beautifully explained... I agree and try to live and train with that kind of love and care... Why would anyone want their dog to expect anything but pure love from their human counterpart, as they walk into a room? Thanks you for posting! Rick Caran and Jilli Dog

[@sarang.chavan]

This is less about training dogs and more about how to communicate if you are a human. I agree to reach and every word said by him.

[@kernell32bcn]

I only can say that i've learn a lot in this 14' thanks!!!!

[@DeboftheWebb]

@HiveDes There was no specific punishment which is the point..... The dog was made aware of what was expected of him and corrected without anger or aggression. Just like kids or spouses, the energy you put out will be dished right back to you. There is an exception to every rule. Life will be easier for all involved if we accept what we have and deal with each situation individually.

[@musicofnote1]

And you don't need pain to develop drive. And once developed, you don't net pain to turn it on/off. You need training and impulse-control work. If you still need a prong to control the off-switch, then you haven't trained your dog. Watch my last training film towards the end, after having worked the recalls and the "leave" we go to "out" out of the high drive. The "leave" after the "out". All done off leash and without pain or coercion.

[@naisayd]

You might want to have a look at Dogtown, if you haven't already. It isn't Ian personally, but it is more positive than Cesar Millans's methods.

[@melodymsizemore4741]

Great video!

[@stop3tombs]

Loved it! Thanks!

[@ovescovo]

summary: there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. If you liked this, go check out some of his books, they are fantastic.

[@ShelterDogs]

If someone is going to say something as ignorant as that, I wouldn't bother paying any attention to them. Remember? In dog training, ignore the behaviors you don't want and reward the ones you do. =)

[@sequoyahbean]

@DreamComeTrueK9 - Certainly there are different techniques that trainers can employ, however, it's interesting how many trainers still base their training on the concept of dominance and linear hierarchy, when we now know that dogs, while they are certainly social animals with dominant and submissive behaviors, are NOT pack driven in the sense that people have historically thought of wolves.

[@djdragon181]

I find it interesting when people talk about e collars and choke collars because they need to look at dogs in the wild, or even at home, and the fights they have for dominance.

[@EricELT18]

Dogs and humans deserve better training methods!

[@-LocoBolon]

Than the one this fraudulent liar exposes here? yes of course, there are already! :)

[@steinbr]

The term "alpha" when it comes to wolves is highly misleading and misunderstood. It's been gone from discriptions about wolves in the wild for a decade, because wolves don't organize their packs like that. What you're talking about is what is seen by wolves in captivity under highly stressfull situations. This has nothing to do with dogs.

[@saramations]

But isn't a stressed out wolf in captivity basically a domestic dog?

[@0566davies]

I have worked with dogs for many years. I cant understand why people are arguing over who is the best behaviourist! I am sure both men do what they can in the interests of animal welfare. Always remember (and yes I have worked with TV), only the best bits are shown! Instead of being abusive, open up your minds, listen and learn. Use that which YOU can apply and put to the bottom of your tool kit that which seems irrelevant. You may use or adapt it for own use one day.

[@mydogkanskidrums]

@PaulAndMuttley 20 years ago, many people would agree with you. But the salient issue at the moment is, science (and anecdotal evidence) has discovered so many things about how dogs learn, their genetic origins, their ancestor's social behaviour and the domestic dogs' social behaviour- as pets and as feral dogs. And all the evidence is against what Millan speaks about. People can make their own choices, but there is now a clear line between what is true about dogs and what isn't.

[@Malirra4290]

The funny thing is that Dunbar deals with red zone dogs. The More You Know.

[@leahcamara3774]

what is a red zone dog?

[@DreamComeTrueK9]

@sequoyahbean i feel that word play gets too much involved at times when it comes to "training". there must be positive reinforcment and their must be a leadership assertive guiding figure for the dog to follow at times. its also important to understand the difference between discipline and punishment. they can be two different things. u might not have 2 b more dominant than a dog but u often do need 2 correct and show them that their display of dominance in most cases is not tolerated as well.

[@vlasevmovement]

AMAZING!

[@IdleFreeTaipei]

7:40, he defines "punishment" using the definition of "negative reinforcement." not the same.

[@ShilgenVens]

I don't use food to train my dogs. I also don't break them or hit them. They respond really well to affectionate responses to their positive behavior and a low throat growl for bad behavior.

[@mydogkanskidrums]

Respond to this video... So for me, it's silly to use physical methods with our dogs, or think of our relationship (and dogs' relationships with other dogs) as hierarchical, because there is no ethological value to them- which people used to believe there was. Cesar says some good things, don't get me wrong, but usually those things are completely out-weighed by the inaccurate advice. We need a good role-model for owners who just want to do the best for their dogs- and Cesar isn't it anymore.

[@stylakidd]

goood for you! WE however do need a book and video cause we want the best for our dogs... which is why we are here... why are you hear mr know it all?

[@charismatickidtv]

@mydogkanskidrums So then what dog trainer should I follow? What book should I read? I hear people talk crap about Cesar but never give alternatives.

[@thezenfuldog]

OK ESSE @KBadtower...another easy one...You have 3-different dogs 1-German Shepherd 2-Golden Retriever 3-Labrador Retriever. How should each dog be trained? The same?" If the same methods why? If different methods why? Why are Labrador retrievers the most turned in dog to dog shelters? Is it because they turn aggressive towards children as they get older? What reason do most people give for giving away/placing in shelter a Lab? GS, what is *MOST IMPORTANT* when training a GS? Riddle me that!

[@cschaffh]

I am in the middle ground camp between Dunbar and Cesar. What strikes me about this talk is his disdain for dog owners (and people in general). He is so abrasive he is "punishing" the audience for listening, and then he wonders why people stop listening. There is a better way to tell people they are wrong. I disagree that a dog (like mine) would rather die than feel momentary discomfort, but agree that as soon as the dog reduces aggression you should switch to PR and simply saying No.

[@OoJoshioO]

The video confuses me, the quality is from the 90s but the laptops from the 2000s: D

[@Truthiness231]

Very good vid; I'm glad someone who understands how a biological sentient machine that's programmed to react to certain things thinks. Some are training them to do these "bad" things, only to get angry with them later. It's much more complicated than "hoping like hell it will comprehend humanistic rules", because it won't, and it's sad so many people think that they should be able to see our rules....

[@mickshaw555]

Fantastic speech! now I know the value of a butt sniff. Jokes apart, seriously good information.

[@HiveDes]

Can someone please explain to me what the punishment was in his example with the dog that had agression problems in the kitchen?

[@OmegaProxy]

How high is your pedestal?

[@darrelhager]

Ian Dunbar started the APDT in 1993.

[@thejlx]

we simply have a agreement she knows i am the leader and she can choose to obey or not if its trivial if it is important she knows i have a reason why

[@ronniepage]

i cant get my dog to pee and poop outside. she does when shes out there, but she never begs to go out there before she goes and she'll just pee and poop whenever she has to and wherever she is.

[@cschaffh]

Actually, I know which one you refer to, it seems to be the default counterargument, despite clear faults in drawing parallels to Cesar's techniques. It does in fact demonstrate that confrontational methods can create aggression if used incorrectly. Unfortunately, this is also true of positive methods, as owners will attest when they have tried to calm aggression by rewarding them. This is the only legitimate conclusion allowed by the data of the study.

[@musicofnote1]

Our last dog as a non-aversively trained SAR dog. Prong collars are not nevcessary to train SAR or cadaver searches. Or field searches. Google Robert Millner. As for me, you have no idea about me. I grew up with dogs, and have been training semi-pro and pro for over 12 years now. My videos show a bit of what I've done with my present dog. If you can't train without a prong collar, then you need to sharpen your skills. I've got the skills to train with or without clicker.

[@bslbeachbum]

He caught my attn talking about the boy on the plane. I see it in my training classes with dogs and owners who get so frustrated rather than reverting to training. Ughh.

[@blackdogxx]

the children in poor countries are the responsibility of parents living in a circumstance around the world. People in America are not responsible for children around the world. they are responsible for their own children and their own dogs that they choose to own or not.

[@kirkygirl]

Well for me, I see the methodology of dog training akin to raising a human child. You teach the dog good behaviors right from the beginning, and the "parents" and any applicable "siblings" have to agree on how the dog is to behave. Meaning human children are not to reward bad behavior even though it might be cute. Lots of cookies and love helps too. :-)

[@theyellowdart12]

its so true , my mam and sister treat my dog as if its some ditzy lovable person, the dont understand it sees things as a dog, they've totally ruined its brain!

[@Tousanx]

the comment section on here is pretty sad. people arguing about whether ian dunbar or cesar milan is better dog trainer. for real people. they are both trying to impart knowledge and people are getting mad about it. like someone else said. just do your best and forget the rest. i'm note gonna name who said that, or someone else will start a flame war.

[@rza139]

Tou Xiong I don't even know why Cesar Millan's name is even in the comments section for this video. They are not even on the same planet. Ian Dunbar is a legend

[@ItsJakeTheBrake]

because nobody taught him how it should be done. He saw his parents or dog trainers do a jerk as a correction and he thinks that you have to keep doing it until the dog does what you want, instead of being more patient.

[@PassThePopkorn]

badabingrockford, what are you talking about ? Did YOU see the show ? Cesar wasn't in the tractor, he was outside and waiting for the dog to get near to use the shock collar. After a while the dog stopped wanting to go after the tire and got over her dangerous obsession. and,"quit hating on Cesar ", I'm not hating on Cesar, if you payed more attention you would see I'm trying to justify his use of the shock collar.

[@HeartsongforGod]

Check out DogStarDaily on here. It has lots of videos of Dr. Dunbar training dogs and teaching dog classes.

[@Soho1977]

@badabingrockford you got the point. people are jsut palin ignorant and see what they want to see. cheers

[@cschaffh]

keeg021985, I look forward to discussing specifics of science of dog learning with you. Please provide the citations of peer reviewed articles that conclusively demonstrate that a "middle ground" in fact does not exist in dog training. Also please only list those that specifically deal with aggressive dogs who will bite humans. SInce you assume incorrectly that I did not listen to the talk, you are already starting off wrong. Let's hear what you know about the science.

[@musicofnote1]

Just because YOU say that SAR is purely positive, doesn't make it true. Most SAR dogs in the US are still trained with shock, which is not necessary, as is shown daily by the Germans, Swiss, Japanese and others. What you don't know seems to fill volumes. It's not really easy, training a dog to ignore busted refrigerators in rubble after a 7-o earthquake and find people. Some train to only find living (Germans). Others train to find living and dead (Swiss).

[@yasithaperera3388]

good helpfull

[@dogert66]

Nice of you to make assumptions and resort to namecalling, sure makes me take you seriously! How about Dr Sophia Yin (look at her website) and Jean Donaldson who treat aggression all the time? Patricia McConnell works closely with her local shelters to promote positive dog training and since her involvement return rates have dramatically decreased. I agree degrees aren't worth anything if you can't train dogs but just because there are bad positive trainers does not mean the method is to blame.

[@dogert66]

Ian didn't say much about dominance/hierarchy here, what he did was brief. 'Cause of all the dominance "theory" hype he is likely trying to get peoples' attention in thinking the way their dogs do, not necessarily willing to go into detail about the subtleties of dog social order. Also, science says that pits are no more likely to bite than any other terrier/high drive dog, the only thing they were ever bred for was dog fighting, never biting humans. So I'm not sure what you are talking about.

[@cschaffh]

I agree very few uniformed dog owners will use effective techniques to change a dog's behavior, particularly aggression. I have spoken with several trainers who say only R+ should be used. At least you have started using comments like "almost", rather than your previous knee jerk absolutist statements of before. It is concerning you did not bother to inform yourself what specific techniques I was for or against before your rant. Enjoy your career, I will enjoy my objective unbiased thinking.

[@santiagotfm]

Ojalá le sacaran el doblaje 😢