Ian Hislop urges investigation into Michael Gove and Rupert Murdoch

The Public Administration and Constitutional Affairs Select Committee
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[@stevieh9860]

Ian Hislop is that rare being. intelligent, sharp, funny with a strong sense of right and wrong and the skill to express in ways that doesn't patronise his audience or insult intelligence. We need more like him.

[@scxlg]

Apparently Piers Morgan tried his damnedest to dig up dirt on Hislop so as to run a smear campaign against him - but couldn't find a single thing. Scandal-free and upright for decades; it's amazing.

[@frflinstone]

So true that

[@KazakhToon]

I know he's more valuable to the country as a journalist/editor, but I would dearly love him to run as an independent MP. Him in the Commons would be fantastic.

[@toysforthetoygod2671]

My only issue with IH was when he was such a dick to Tom Waits

[@TonyBananas101]

The English Christopher Hitchens

[@arthurbiggins]

Watching this at the end of 2021 and it is more relevant now than ever.

[@maxine2798]

Now the focus is on the 2nd job they’re doing while they’re still “hard working MPS” while working 50 hours a month for some other lobbyists

[@terryurquhart2413]

2 Free speech hero’s sat right there …!

[@matt_cummins28]

Aye, well said.

[@TheKirkby]

I love that Ian Hislop just always says the truth. And everyone is always shocked by it.

[@ONEDAYFILMMPEG4]

Well done Ian Hislop and Richard Brooks, thank you for continually trying to make life better for us all.

[@peterclarke7240]

Ian is one of those rare individuals who heard the phrase "the pen is mightier than the sword" and decided, not just to wield that power, but to to use that power for good.

[@outlawJosieFox]

Ian Hislop is my hero !

[@nigecheshire9854]

My dad is mine

[@0cypher0]

@@nigecheshire9854 is Ian Hislop your dad?

[@squeakeroo1]

28 people have given this a thumbs down. I imagine 28 money grabbing MPs

[@chriswalford4161]

November 2021 : the Tories have abolished imagination.

[@bokhans]

December 2021 and YT has just taken away the counter for downvotes.

[@peterc2248]

I spent thirty years in public service. I always treated public money as if it were my own. I successfully managed numerous large public construction projects, 95% of which came in on time and budget. My reward? Suspension and then quietly retired for refusing to fudge the numbers. Politicians and senior public servants are now so morally bankrupt that their leadership constitutes a real danger to civil society. They deserve nothing but contempt.

[@worldcitizenra]

This is the first I Am Incorrigible video I've watched. After seeing Ian Hislop's testimony, I understand his frequent jokes during Have I Got News For You Appearances about the numerous libel suits he has faced. Not that there was anything particularly offensive about anything he said. Just that those in power tend to object to people telling the truth about them when that truth is even the least bit inconvenient for the public appearance of the rich and powerful. We have a few journalists in the USA who treat their work similar to Mr. Hislop and Mr. Brooks. Sadly, not nearly enough of them considering the level of public-private corruption that has become viewed as commonplace, acceptable political behavior.

[@thatdutchguy2882]

Richard Archer Here, here👍.

[@korgull8448]

Ian (Speak truth to power...always) Hislop. That's how we should all start to think. Logical and just an all round bloody great human being. I'm thankful he is out there doing what he does.

[@petersmafield8722]

Once it has been shown that Government officials do not have a Moral Compass Than very strict rules must be forced on them including prison time when they fail to meet those rules. This should be applied to both UK and USA Government officials. Each Country needs these kinds of rules.

[@runci14]

Lobbying is legal in the USA, not applicable there at all, meanwhile the corruption within our government has snowballed within the last few years

[@kevinnoscoe6284]

Well done Ian 👍🏻👏🏻👍🏻

[@sidney001]

I'm watching this video three years after it was first published and expect that in that time absolutely nothing has changed

[@ane-louisestampe7939]

and now we're in 2023... 3 PMs later ... nothing, absolutely nothing

[@DavidMorris-wm3mo]

This should be a Panorama subject for goodness sake.

[@lucaviggiani2189]

I like the way that Hislop and Brooks completely shut down the chairman Bernard Jokeins “Please don’t be beastly to my friends trying to make money” intervention a few minutes in.

[@oneworldfamily]

The levels of corruption in this country is such a tragic joke. Most notably politicians and those in public service who are expected to be doing their best for the public. All these individuals are doing is showing how exceptionally weak of character they are.

[@Technicallyimright]

I think it needs to be repeated over and over and over again that these MP’s are public servants and are given power by us, the public. At the first glance them taking the piss (and after a thorough investigation) they must be cast out of public service, lose their pensions and all benefits. They simply must be held to account if not a higher account as they are spending tax payers money.

[@DannyPoet]

Watching this 5 years on & nothing has changed - in fact very much worse.

[@neildando5742]

Watching this 5 years and 8 months on and it's very much worse than it was when it was very much worse...

[@garyreynolds5733]

I do appreciate those who scrutinise: it's so saddening to have a bank of politicians who appear to be unaware of the types of ideas these two are putting forward (as if they'd never thought of solutions to anything).

[@nazirkazi5119]

who be unaware

[@jimosborn3411]

I wonder what career Matt Hancock will have in the private sector after his public sector life is over?? I sure his mate suppling vaccine vials will have a £250k non-exec director role lined up for him..

[@andygilbert7955]

Avid viewing and completely relevant for today despite it being 5 years ago

[@HonestSonics]

Can you re-edit this with an exaggerated voice-over, copious jump cuts and maybe the odd explosion and/or airhorn so we can get the wider public interested in watching. Cheers.

[@stevenwheeler4462]

And perhaps a headline that says "you won't believe what Ian Hislop said at the end of this video" or "95% of people won't share this because they hate Britain".

[@carpy1970]

Just give it to Michael Bay to re-edit :-)

[@karlw7143]

Half decent audio would be a start....

[@nickbarton3191]

Ian Hislop proving that an independent fifth estate is vitally important for a thriving democracy to function.

[@johnsmith-ij2so]

Alas we don't have that. We have partisan papers which basically write propaganda for their side of the political divide. Columnist writing fact free opinion pieces dominate and real journalism is poorly funded. While libel is used by the rich to make it impossible to hold them to account.

[@mmafightcoach]

52:40 for the Michael Gove Rupert Murdoch bit. But check out the entire session if you have time as it is amazing the corruption going on that is almost never reported.

[@IAmIncorrigible]

Thanks for indexing that for everyone.

[@scxlg]

My God I didn't know Private Eye had a podcast. Thanks.

[@TheBarnem13]

Daren Willcock Buy private eye you'll find it every week

[@californiadreamin8423]

@@IAmIncorrigible This video is MORE IMPORTANT NOW, than ever.

[@9kilsyth]

Ian Hislop is trying to make the world a better and more balanced place. I wish him the very best of luck and support from all.

[@earttu]

Very interesting given what's going on right now... so much hasn't changed.

[@timmyfriday2718]

"How would you expect people to exercise their own moral judgement despite there being a whole lot of rules?" Ummm. How the fuck is that unreasonable to expect?

[@jimosborn3411]

His point being that in a society with no rules, our own moral judgement would be more correct somehow?? I'm not going to mug that little old lady because, although it's not against the law, my sense of right and wrong will kick in and then we'll a life in a utopic existence where people are not opportunistic, greedy, or unintelligent. He's a moron..

[@stuartcollins5253]

I think Tim is being satirical ironically

[@stuntedmonk]

And for all this hot air it came to nought, and here’s Cameron and senior civil servants, at the trough

[@clivejohnson6468]

Amazing, proposing that corruption and fraud by ministers in doling out contracts should be dealt with by a "rule". Whatever happened to the "law".

[@johnsmith-ij2so]

This video sums up the problem, instead of scrutinising disgraceful behaviour by individuals, the committee is demanding those giving evidence censor their evidence and deliver it behind closed doors. Hardly surprising because MPs are part of the same club. They simply can't be trusted to hold the government and its officials to account. It needs to be done by a truly independent body.

[@philipcarthy2977]

Every country needs journalists like hislop, their views and commentaries are so badly needed, the corruption that occurs is heinous, all these people involved or concerned with abusing their positions need to be outed,the click which is most power establishments ie governments large corporations etc should be shamed in the public, especially government who are accountable to the voter who put them there ,there in power to serve the public and should be liable to any fraud, corruption etc.

[@HughTerry69]

The bit about Murdoch & Gove only really comes as a footnote at the end (could that be followed up later?). But as an insight into how our political system works - or rather, doesn't - I found it fascinating!

[@dissol]

Sadly that Gove / Murdoch relationship has never ever been properly investigated. There are many, many rumours, one would have thought that if there is no truth to them, then the government would want to be able to show that. The fact that no investigation has taken place…speaks volumes. Hislop’ s shock at Gove being approved by the committee was enlightening.

[@howardgilmour8464]

I stumbled across this accidentally and it's magic. It is incredible what goes on when nobody is watching! And here you have a committee pretending to be concerned up against the two pit-bulls. A glorious charade. I am indebted to them for at least trying.

[@danielleitch1537]

Jenkins is into the gravy train 🚆🚆🚆 as well their all in it together . torrys all the same blinkered when it comes to them still nothing done five years later .that says it all .

[@angelouk8590]

This clip provided a fascinating glimpse of the incompetence that we're all paying for but what a sad state of affairs! Will it ever change? Will the state ever achieve a level of competence where we can feel reassured? It's small wonder that people who should be paying more tax try their hardest to avoid it.

[@0cypher0]

Five years on and the level of corruption has only gotten worse. The pandemic provided the best chance for the most corrupt to offer the most cronyist contracts ever to friends and donors under the least scrutiny possible. Writing off billions in fraud without any investigation should not be possible.

[@pitchforkcustom5379]

He’s a good lad Ian 👍

[@The8224sm]

A good example of the revovling door scenario is the highly technical expertise of experts in the Formula 1 motor racing area. When engineers move from one company to another in F1 they are required to take a year of what is called Gardening Leave so that the knowledge they posses has become obsolete when they join their new appointment. The reality is that they advise behind the scenes for a similiar renumeration paid to a blind trust in the Cayman Islands.

[@rabidbigdog]

"But isn't it difficult ...." MP asks about ethics. This is gold.

[@PanglossDr]

All that is needed is a law which sets a limit of, say 5 years, within which a person is not allowed to take up a job with any organisation with which they have worked closely or a direct competitor. They have this in France.

[@cpn9072]

I think 5 years is too long. 3 years perhaps more realistic for moves that are Public to Private, and I certainly cannot support private to private moves within competing companies. That should be managed more effectively through specific Employment contractual terms and should demur form a legislative approach.

[@philroo1]

I've had to sign employment contracts that include non-competition clauses that are far more restrictive than what's being suggested here.

[@sprobablycancr4457]

Great to see common sense has prevailed and of all this corruption has ceased...

[@markdempsey5183]

thank god for private eye

[@ChrisBrummitt]

This shows and exposes the corrupting nature of privatising public assets within Government objectives which has become endemic throughout the Conservative Governments since 2010. The secrecy and underhand lobbying will only get worse now that the Government has been handed a massive Parliamentary majority. Well done the UK- you now have the Government you clearly deserve. We need Private Eye and investigative journalism.

[@Phoebedumplings]

Some of the panel can’t see the problem…..incredible!

[@parsleythelion9113]

Oh they can see it alright!

[@billywoodward584]

Why can't politicians see this is wrong, the puplic can't do this sort of thing because we aren't of any use to big businesses, because we had no past political influence, they see this as a bonus when they leave Parliment, to me it's like a crime prevention officer leaving the police force, and then finding employment advising criminal gangs to help them to commit crimes.

[@blindazabat9527]

There should be more Ian Hislops in this world!

[@simontaylor3312]

What's become of me?..I've just watched three hours of committees,for fun.

[@pseudonayme7717]

Check out some Milton Freidman if you want to be challenged and entertained at the same time :) DISCLAIMER - I do not agree with Freidman about much but he knew how to think.

[@deryckevans8877]

Ian and Richard, fantastic and obviously one million % correct, unfortunately you are making you case to people who don't want to listen and will do absolutely nothing to a professional standard.

[@baldfella66]

What a delightful polite exchange of views, that has produced absolutely nothing in the way of positive action. It’s such a shame there are only 127 comments.

[@MrAnxious0123]

I see in this the justification of Yanis Varoufakis' demand that all EU meetings should be streamed on line. Then we can all see what we're dealing with. Well done Britain, we'd have been a good oposition in Europe and could have pushed for the changes we all know are necessary. Tant pis, wir mûssen leider draussen bleiben.

[@thatdutchguy2882]

MrAnxious0123 C'mon, the British were part of the problem,...one most EU countries are well rid of,...case is eloquently made here by Ian Hislop m8.

[@samskillington401]

The brushing over of the HS2 rail with public/ private sector was telling.

[@rontocknell5400]

And here we are in 2021, five years later. Oh the changes we haven't seen!

[@Mrpear234]

Same here in the states, public and private , you write laws then you lobby and advise "shortly"after you leave office. it's all about money.

[@azadrasheed497]

A few years ago the Chief or the Permanent Secretary of Inland Revenue on retirement joined with a big salary a City firm of Accountants yep specialising in tax reduction schemes.

[@Hades-fs7mv]

Anybody know what happened to the Levison inquiry video of Ian Hislop? The complete thing was available on youtube and now I can't find it anywhere anymore...

[@brianaustin5467]

Here we are in 2021 up to our necks in sleaze. Nothing has changed.

[@preschau]

I watched this six years later. I'm an Australian with a recent interest in UK politics. What what was/is the outcome of this or any other meetings like this now in 2022? Has anything changed for the better?

[@liamlyons6645]

How do we make sure Ian Hislop never dies?

[@geezerbutler4582]

Like Richard Ingrams the editor before him keep Private Eye going and bring on a new generation of journalists to carry the torch after he departs

[@terryurquhart2413]

I just love the humour within a very serious subject ….!

[@lucaviggiani2189]

33:07 “He’d had lunch with them at about budget time”. That sums it up for me.

[@TheStevenWhiting]

The amount of times they were attempting to tell him to only make certain comments in private. So trying to hide behind closed doors as always. They got very defensive when he mentioned the PM. 49:11 stop outsourcing your IT to Crapita then. That would be a start. But oh no, you constantly allow people in charge to outsource. You'll always get a better service and more cost effective service keeping IT in house. It's a false saving outsourcing. And that is the issue. You'll get someone in power, who, to make a name for themselves, outsources the IT contract so they can state "I saved the company/government this much this year" then quickly leaves for a new role. Before it's discovered that in the long run, it will cost a massive amount more than running in house.

[@RonWylie-gk5lc]

When this is so obvious why oh why cant we get action!, they are simply laughing at us. Everyone knows the "old boy network" is alive and well, nothing can fix it because it is so deep rooted, Tear it all down and rebuild it because it is rotten to the core

[@JamesWilson-gw2ij]

Such loaded questions. Classic case of jobs for the boys

[@alansimmons9621]

Im at 32 minutes in and I have to say what about integrity? Should our politicians and civil servants have a degree to principle that prevents them from what is basically insider trading?

[@lucaviggiani2189]

31:36 Bernard Jenkin mutters “Move on” after Ian’s dig at Hartnett.

[@ronnieince4568]

Luca Viggiabi no senior Tax Inspectors should be allowed to work as tax advisors If gatekeepers become poachers them they are either corrupt or the suspicion of corruption will exist .Nobody is going to recruit a state tax collector and pay them money for anything other than tax saving advice .

[@judiththomas9995]

In my view, young people who see a career in politics as being step one in the development of a working only for their own benefit, has come about, partly, as a result of university degrees in politics. What a shame that nothing has come of this as we are now well past the time that this discussion took place.

[@matt_cummins28]

As always, fascinating. Surprising level of concordance between cttee and Hislop/Brooks. Do the empty chairs represent missing members of the committee?

[@sjw101thepoliticalgamer8]

Just so you know, there were 3 missing members of the committee - 2 of them were conservatives.

[@lynneceegee8726]

SJW101, the political gamer says it all.

[@vongeyer]

They were doing their 2nd jobs instead

[@matt_cummins28]

@@sjw101thepoliticalgamer8 Thanks for the clarification. Not a great surprise, eh?

[@youngfod10]

It's all perfectly OK. So, a long term MI5 employee on reaching retirement takes a non executive job with Putin.

[@DiamondDanny]

52:40 - Ian Hislop urges investigation into Michael Gove and Rupert Murdoch

[@peacemaker6662]

I was surprised Ian didn't hit the desk with his head.... repeatedly! It is obvious they are unable or unwilling to police themselves with any integrity.

[@BrotherofSki]

Nothing changes

[@nonenone-vt8cg]

No change there then.

[@SCREENLURKER]

ironic this comes up in recommended just as the news about david cameron's lobbying comes out. problem has aged like milk...

[@joannebridgetsimpson6260]

Can we elect Ian Hislop to PM?

[@kahirm3677]

Needs to happen. Do you know how to contact him?

[@carpy1970]

He's said that he thinks he's more valuable where he is.

[@TesterAnimal1]

I see a “Kate Hoey” desk sign. That mad old far-right wing harridan doesn’t get to sit on committees?

[@geoffhalpin5976]

Hislop is so funny because he simply points out the incongruity and absurdity of the "right to rulers."

[@ericmcrae7758]

The reason why companies want to employ these high level civil servants is that they totally understand all the steps required to get Government contracts and all the contacts who approve them.

[@marcuskerr4605]

Well done Ian, trying at least.

[@Johnconno]

'Hwaw! Hwaw! Hwaw! We're all friends really, drinks and drugs later?'

[@alisonleaman333]

Watching this prompted me to check whether evidence given to Parliamentary Committees is covered by Parliamentary Privilege. It is.

[@johnsmith9903]

my God . You have the rules and the added moral hazard clause. Both can be in effect at the same time.

[@NSBarnett]

When was this meeting, @I Am Incorrigible?

[@englishjona6458]

Never got it 🤷🏽‍♂️ good ole Ian

[@aoibheall55]

It's like two parents explaining basic morality to their children

[@martinwilkinson4477]

Nail on the head! Several of these videos have MPs asking such puerile questions as to suggest they are complicit in obfuscating any compliance or reform.

[@godsbutterflys]

Listen if it's any comfort, US is going thru much worse.. Stay Strong 🙏🙏🙏

[@hsiadarb8062]

Moral compass, ministerial code seems to have failed many years ago. Lining ones pocket is seen as the norm with government/ civil service and those surrounding them within the private sector. If it is to be stopped then it needs to be from the top down. My view is Ian & Richard have good intent but voices in the wilderness against what this country (UK) has become. Right & wrong are expressions with no meaning for those who have no moral compass nor self-worth within our society of today....

[@wouldbegood]

Unreal.

[@vladimirputin4822]

Record all meetings, storage for digital files costs less than paper and ink. 10 years, same as OSA, would be a proper gap between, being involved on behalf of the tax payer, and taking employment with who that involvement was with.

[@richardtuxford1812]

Five years on and could the situation be any worse? If only these thoughts had been heeded, billions would have been saved

[@JimWhitaker]

Quite brave inviting Hislop/Brooks to a forum where anything they say is covered by Parliamentary privilege.

[@fras1812]

More relevant now than ever

[@camf7522]

Yes, governments at all levels should stop using consultants. That’s what elected officials and Civil Servants are there for.

[@alisonc297]

Isn't this about legislation to deal with corruption and transparency to ensure all visibility on all activities?

[@stephenarscott1268]

have these obvious abuses all been sorted out now?

[@thefilmandmusic]

What a public service Mr Heslop is doing …This lot won’t do a thing …

[@Mute_Nostril_Agony]

Top civil service chaps all went to Oxford or Cambridge. In spite of the senior staff being quite well paid, they feel peer pressure from their college chums who earned squillions in the private sector. Worse, their nagging wives will pile on further pressure. So of course we'll look the other way and let them take so called career breaks to work in banks and make proper money. And let them take highly paid consultancy or non exec jobs after retirement. Solution: pay the civil service similar salaries to the private sector and enforce strict rules against lobbying and what the Japanese call 'amakudare' (ascent to heaven) jobs at the end of your civil service career

[@maiqueashworth]

Ian Hislop for prime minister! Shame the sound quality is substandard

[@camf7522]

Easy answer, Civil Service Pensions should cease until a retiree ceases all paid employment. Politicians and Civil Servents cannot hold any other paid employment or consultancies, and not for 2 years after retirement in a company that has supplied goods or services to their area of responsibility .

[@martinkemp9397]

Brilliant

[@robertovers1863]

in most of these committees the mp's grill the interviewees, in this they grill the mp's its so funny to see them scared to ask a question because the answer will make them look foolish

[@kenalgar8908]

Hislop, Incorrigible, James OB, three musketeers.

[@IAmIncorrigible]

LOL