Ibex 450 Off Road Test, Mt. Rushmore, and the Worst Slip n' Slide EVER at the 2024 Get On ADV Fest

[@TheMotoShaman]

Hey I'm in a Dork in the Road Video!! It was a pleasure to meet you sir, hope you enjoyed the cigars!

[@MyNameIsTimIThink]

Got to love jake. I've been watching his vids for like 10 years.

[@greghall1730]

hey man i just wanted to say it was your videos that finally got me off my ass and im back on two wheels thank you so much

[@5395ct]

It was great to meet you in person and a fun time out there for sure! I’m not sure I would go again but it was definitely something worth experiencing at least once!

[@FlatBrokeAdventures]

I'm glad you love the Ibex 450 so much, I've had mine since late June and love it. Looking forward to your full review

[@advredbikes]

Thanks, Ben for sharing that great video, great to see all the shenanigans at that event. Thanks for the review on the IBEX 450, I’m hoping we’re going to see this in Canada

[@ttrumbo]

It was great meeting you. Hope to see you again next year. That’s some beautiful country!

[@williamdillon7708]

Thanks, Ben

[@solidsnake2665]

Excellent!

[@justmyself1000]

Great video! You describe the CFMOTO 800 Ibex perfectly! It is set up comfortable for touring but yes it feels like it has a little off-road something something in it. And you are exactly right it does run very smooth. I was impressed. And it was just announced that there's going to be a 2 to 3 months delay on the 450MT coming to the United States because of some kind of emissions inspection crap. Otherwise I would have one right now

[@duntahans4657]

Hey Dork, now that you’ve ridden the new Himalayan and the CF Moto 450, can you do a comparison?

[@jonpin78]

@@duntahans4657 came to say this lol

[@NorCalSaint]

Can't imagine one is that much better than the other, comes down to personal preference IMO -- BUT am still interested in seeing the head-to-head vids

[@carbon_wavelight]

I’m not convinced just yet. That “hard”trail was easier than the “easy” trails (2/10 onX Offroad rating) near me. I’m thinking Old Flowers Road in CO, and that trail kicks my butt. It looks promising so far! I’d love to hear more about the gearing (short or tall end), how much you have to feather the clutch, is it tippy (lean angle comparison), how does it handle steep climbs etc. Thanks for the good work so far.

[@FlyingEyesWorld]

What a crew!

[@davidskaggs9914]

Awesome...havent seen these bikes in person yet but the IBEX 450 looks like the sweet spot for adventure. I was in the black hills two months ago on the Transalp...some of the best riding anywhere. Went to Rushmore and Crazy Horse...then went over to Yellowstone and Chief Joseph route.

[@RichardS-qh8mi]

Looks like huge fun - will be interested to see how you got on the long haul asphalt, especially the big interstate highway sections, getting to the trails on the 450MT. This will be key in a lot of peoples decision to buy or not, as we know it’s great on the trials from the numerous reviews.

[@kevinsterner9490]

Since the Ibex is a detuned KTM probably gives it better reliability. Ready to race doesn’t lead to reliability . Good video

[@Roberta_Esposito]

Ready to go 10,000 miles without needing a wrench

[@J8zzy]

Dork in slow motion😂

[@jonwoodworker]

The two best ADV releases in the last 2 years, the 800DE and Ibex450. I have one and soon will add the other.

[@dualsportaz4801]

The clip on visor totally solves the issue. I'm 5'11 and get zero... So many dudes bang on the turn signals, I think they are great. Self cancelling too.

[@adrianw3985]

I saw Mount Rushmore once when I was in the Army. Somehow, the Army always makes things unfun.

[@Rigatonispaghettioly]

Is the MSR Voyager gear still recommended? starting to get towards that rainy season here in Oregon and could use an update to wet weather gear. Thanks!

[@wherewithalmoto]

You gotta stop making me want to buy more bikes or my wife is going to make me sell some of the ones I have!

[@antoneperry5352]

I saw that Triumph was there, maybe you did this already, have you tried the Triumph 400x? Interested in your opinion of that bike, hope you had a great time!

[@MichiganMotoADV]

I love my 450NK so I can’t to ride the 450 IBEX. Thanks for the upload. ✌️

[@dr.x4050]

Hello Dork. A while ago you called the Royal Enfield Himalayan 450, the best lightweight adventure bike ever. Just weeks later the Ibex 450 is the best lightweight adventure bike? Ok. Please do a follow up or compare video between the two bikes to help clear this up.

[@niospartan]

Im moving to indiana and might have to commute about 100 miles daily for work and really considering an ibex 800. Im just worried about the possible cam issue but a dealer i asked that sells both ktm and cf moto says only 790s have been coming in with issues.

[@msims1250]

I’m very interested to check out the CF Moto 450. Everyone wants a comparison to the new Himalayan, but I’d be interested in your take on the Ibex 450 vs the Honda CRF450RL. Sort of different classes of bikes I know, but I own a 450RL so I’d like to hear your opinion.

[@e30gangsta]

I was waiting to see how the 450 did up the shelf stairs at the beginning of the trail, guess well never know lol

[@CJ-hq3ek]

Slo-Mo! You crack me up neighbor! One of these days I'll give you a howdy up at shotgun. I live maybe eight miles from the bottom of the hill on the west side of the 5. Every time I'm up there, your off poaching views in some egg-zotic location, riding something weird. Thanks for the vids, I'll keep doing the views!

[@jaymontgomery3330]

Ben have you tested the KTM 390 Adventure yet? Been looking to get one of these, would like to here your take on this bike.

[@イエンスヨハンセン]

People need to stop commenting about Chinese build quality issues. People gave Japan a hard time over it in the 70s, then the Koreans in the 80s. They already supply engines and other components left and right to sorts of European and Japanese brands that we haven't found significant fault with for years. The fact is the Chinese manufacturers are taking risks and developing bikes people actually want, as opposed to the old guard who favour bold new graphics far too much.

[@Rabb_L_Rouser]

@@イエンスヨハンセン you’re right, the quality should be good because if all of the design piracy that Chinese manufacturers do. So it’s basically a Honda motor since china is incapable of creating anything on their own.

[@americandualsportrvifeadve3153]

Nemo area has some good offroad riding. Cute little town not far from where you was.

[@JasonRidesmoto]

The buffeting on the IBEX 800T is excessive! Once I added the clip on windscreen thingy it went away completely.

[@youtuberAstar]

Seriously..... RE Himalayan452 OR the CF Moto450 ???? Thanks for sharing. From New Zealand.

[@bohicagaming4462]

Its kind of weird the closest dealer to me when you ignore the Japanese big four and Harley is CF Moto at like 30-45 minutes ans everything is over an hour. Ive already put a deposit for a 450 Himalayan but the good thing about these 450s is you can buy a 450 himmy and cf moto and still be under the price of a full size

[@escapeorion3741]

Never heard of adventure fest not very good advertising I guess. But some of the best things aren’t very well advertised. Thanks for Sharing!

[@donnieyoung2774]

9/18/24, my local dealer just informed me there is a 90 day delay on the 450. No reason given to him. Bummer.

[@Alex_556]

Isn't it too heavy for 450cc? I'd rather prefer circa 360 lbs wet.

[@bwlyon]

Jake is from State Farm right? 😂 glad y’all had a good time. Maybe CFmoto will give you an Ibex450 to thrash on next summer. The new CFmoto Ibex and Himalayan 450s are definitely throwing down the gauntlet and aim to gain some serious marketshare. What strikes me is the Japanese manufacturers either got caught with their pants down, or aren’t serious about what the market place wants.

[@Liberty4Ever]

The Japanese Big Four, KTM and BMW refused for decades to sell us a lightweight ADV thumper that was off road oriented but with the power to comfortably cruise on the highway. That's how they forced us to buy their heavy and expensive 800-1300 cc "adventure" bikes. CF Moto, Kove and others will eat their market share, and deservedly so. The customer is always right. It's sad it took this long.

[@DirtRider22a]

Tertiary Jake here in case you need it lol

[@stephenjacques554]

That's a majestic place, some really great rock carving. Enjoy be safe be well. SJ

[@halfmoongarage]

Shoot I’m genuinely thinking I want one of these. I have a hawk 250 dlx and it’s been great. I’m unbothered by it being Chinese because I have a blast riding it and it’s been good to me.

[@c0c0asauce]

Those C1 Corvettes 58-62 had problems with the turn signal stalk and even when they work you can barely see them in daylight. It's just an old car.

[@John_Ridley]

I owned a CFMoto last year. My gripe with them is that they don't have service manuals available for sale. You have to pirate them.

[@GlennO1961]

By the by, how's buddy Tim doing?

[@markjacobs3956]

It didn't take you long to forget about the 450 Himalayan at $1000 less money.

[@kery00]

Dork in the Road, I would love to hear your thoughts the Ibex 450 in comparison to the new Himalayan 450. I know you have not done a long-term review on either but any initial thoughts based on riding both.

[@anthonyperkins6364]

yes we need your thoughts on how it compares to the RE 450??? how about it ???

[@RiseRyder]

I'm curious what KTM will do if CFMOTO starts cannibalizing their own sales.

[@paul.vanhout57]

It will be interesting if CFMoto built bikes improve on overall quality vs the Austrian built bikes.

[@mrzclips]

@@paul.vanhout57 ive heard the cfmoto 800mt is an updated ktm 790 engine without cam shaft issues and such.

[@Roberta_Esposito]

8:18

[@Liberty4Ever]

A modern 450 cc engine is the sweet spot for ADV, assuming your idea of adventure is woods and trails and not super slab highway. We've been begging the industry for a lightweight off road oriented 450-650 cc single cylinder ADV bike that has enough power for comfortable highway cruising for decades. CF Moto has stepped up and made a good first showing with their 450 Ibex, although I'd like it a little lighter, even knowing it would be more expensive. Now the moto cartel that conspired to force us to buy their bloated Starbucks adventure bikes will need to finally offer something like the Ibex 450 or they'll lose a lot of market share to CF Moto.

[@anxiousappliance]

I worry about the KTM 790 engine, not the Chinese manufacture. Haven't heard complaints about cfmoto, so the issue seems to be KTM has problems building to modern standards.

[@johnnyphoenix1223]

Look at all those squid’s

[@krede99]

A few days ago the Himalayan was the go to bike - is that still the case after trying out the Cf Moto?

[@The_RC_Guru]

All the (KZbin) people who’ve rode both so far have said the cfmoto is better.

[@krede99]

@@The_RC_Guru It would also be the one I would go for

[@The_RC_Guru]

@@krede99 me too. All it’s missing is cruise control.

[@MotoDude1967]

I like Jake. Not too crazy about Jake, though.

[@Roberta_Esposito]

The big four Japanese should be very, very afraid

[@Liberty4Ever]

KTM and BMW too. They all ignored us for a very long time because they wanted to sell us their heavy and expensive 800-1300 cc "adventure" bikes. When they relented and were forced to make smaller ADV bikes, they were deliberately under powered for highway use and heavier than they should have been. The Ibex 450 could be lighter too, but it's much closer than the Big Moto cartel offerings.

[@jamesonpace726]

Clicking turn signals? On a bike? Are you kidding? Ain't never been such a dorky, oh, wait, oh. I see....

[@medic001465]

It looks like a cheap Chinese POS. 130,000 miles? OK. To compare with a T7 is nauseating.

[@trailrunnermike]

To me the the Ibex/CF Moto 450 is not an option. I see max seat height possible is only 820mm, while the Himalayan 450 goes up to 855mm which makes a big difference. At 820mm, if you try increase the space between your feet and your rear end the only way left is to drop the height of the foot pegs. That means your even closer to the ground than you already are before you add a real skid plate. No thanks. The bike is designed for buyers in the largest motorbike market in the world and what most call ROW. Not the US and other similar markets where the average rider is a literary a few inches taller and weights 30-50lbs more.

[@The_RC_Guru]

Oh man if only there was a way to make the seat a touch taller. Yep you’re right this must absolutely be a useless piece of trash thing with 2 mostly round wheels and an engine that does seem to make noise. Past that yep complete garbage 🗑️. You are the only one right, definetly not the dozens of people who’ve been riding and reviewing them in person showing every aspect. Cfmoto should just close their business down today in shame at being such a failure.

[@trailrunnermike]

@@The_RC_Guru Not an option for me.

[@The_RC_Guru]

@@trailrunnermike they already have the rally seat available for it putting it at 870mm. Making the Himalayan inferior according to your needs for it to even be rideable.

[@mikeconforti6820]

@@The_RC_Guru Well that's great to hear. I looked up the seat heights and 820 was the highest option I could locate. We shall see how this unfolds. Spend your $ in any way that suits you. No arguments from me.

[@cliffordjordan9577]

Jake seems like he gets pretty insufferable after about 15 minutes with him