Idaho could soon look like it's giving you the middle finger

Have you ever wanted Idaho to look like it's giving you the middle finger? Well, that could happen soon. Mr. Beat explains the Greater Idaho Movement.
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For the past couple years, the Greater Idaho Movement has gained a lot of momentum. Its goal is to convince both the Oregon and Idaho state legislatures, and then the United States Congress, to redraw the boundary between Oregon and Idaho. The goal is to take at least 15 mostly rural, conservative-leaning counties in Eastern Oregon and have them become part of Idaho.

[@iammrbeat]

Do you think the Greater Idaho Movement will actually be successful?

[@justwatchinthis1]

I give it a 62% chance of happening

[@sunniejmh]

no. i really hope not.

[@salilbhatnagar]

No. No way Idaho can afford to pay all of Oregons debts and taxes in those regions. The legal issues and costs would bankrupt the state.

[@compatriot852]

The people want it, so I'd say they should be allowed to

[@alonkatz4633]

No. Congress Democrats will never let this happen.

[@bigdom9123]

We were so worried about Ohio, we never noticed Idaho making moves

[@jjjadin9509]

Undurated comment

[@Isaaclong7]

As an Idaho resident, we’ve been plotting

[@ownlydown5933]

Rather be in idaHoe Than OrGayn Imo

[@ItsLuke350]

​​@@ownlydown5933..stop Not because funny pun Just bad joke I'm sorry

[@lightningmcquuen]

​@@Isaaclong7 finally another Idaho person

[@atobe1844]

Idaho begins it's goal of world domination

[@iammrbeat]

Eastern Washington and Northern California...YOU'RE NEXT!

[@emersoncordova670]

They’ll never stop Ohio…

[@briangarrow448]

It wasn’t so long ago that Northern Idaho was trying to secede from the rest of Idaho and join Washington.

[@wanderingoutlaw2083]

Idaho is following Ohios example

[@SCATXXIV]

@@wanderingoutlaw2083 always have been 😎

[@unstopable_rob]

Oregonian here, this is legit and the conservative city of roseburg actually refused to be added because and I quote "if I wanted to live in Idaho I would just move there"

[@chrisporter9397]

Enjoy being ruled over and taxed by Portland then, Roseburg

[@tonykosmoski3166]

Roseburg wouldn't have been a part of it anyway lmao

[@unstopable_rob]

@tonykosmoski3166 yeah, because the people here think it's dumb, it was on the ballot and almost everyone denied it

[@oldrabidus2230]

@@unstopable_robwait another 4 years. They’ll be begging to switch when a 50% income tax passes Oregon.

[@spht9ng]

@@oldrabidus2230 If the ultra-rich are getting taxed 50% for their income, that's a GOOD thing.

[@godzillawarz]

The funny thing is, economically speaking, Oregon won't be losing much, and Idaho won't be gaining much

[@Otome_chan311]

And yet everyone would be happier

[@mikeymikey4186]

@@godzillawarz Don't know much about eastern Oregon, but wouldn't the population gain give Idaho more electoral points and thus an advantage for Republicans?

[@godzillawarz]

@mikeymikey4186 probably not by much, because the majority of the population centers in Oregon are in the cities in the west. While yes, Idaho would get bigger, have more people and gain more influence, most of that is still empty land This isn't necessarily an endorsement of the policy, because I think they're wrong for why they want to join Idaho, for the same reason why I don't think upstate New York should separate from NYC, or why NoCal shouldn't separate from the rest of California. It's also for the same reason that Brexit was so disastrous for the UK too

[@Otome_chan311]

@@mikeymikey4186afaik no, the population in the regions in question are low enough to not affect anything like that.

[@dino-bk7vh]

@@mikeymikey4186nah if anything at BEST Idaho would gain ONE electoral vote because eastern Oregon REALLY is not as populated as its western coastal side and even with the point loss western Oregon is still solidly democrat so if anything it really would change all that much for presidential elections as the western states save for obviously California are really sort of set for the republican and democratic parties in that they can always expect to win specific states

[@vexinno3308]

Redrawing the border would add like 12 people to Idaho’s population

[@potatoheadpokemario1931]

And that would be 12 very happy people

[@komlat253]

Haah that's what I'm saying bro. Haha Idaho is a such a one traffic light town haha . When I drove through that place, I counted more cows than cars haha

[@FullPsycho]

@@komlat253 That’s a compliment

[@pugdad2555]

@@potatoheadpokemario1931 they wouldn’t tho. Because Idaho would take away all their weed😂😂😂

[@potatoheadpokemario1931]

@@pugdad2555 surely freedom from wokism is worth the price of losing weed

[@samberg3864]

"Did you move to Idaho?" "No, Idaho moved to me."

[@Damian.99]

😂👍

[@thearachnid7779]

😂😂

[@jesicad.685]

I just moved out of Idaho. I better not be forced back just because the people around me don't like living in Oregon. They're free to do what I did and go somewhere else. Entitled pricks.

[@TheBandit025Nova]

Yes for a year

[@Johngle]

Who da ho now?

[@booooocaj]

I love the thought of someone thinking their political beliefs are enough of a reason to re-draw their state borders. It’s like we live in the 30’s again.

[@bilson7523]

The problem is the democratic cities hold a super majority, so it's not that this is just a political difference, it's a representation issue. There are like 400k people on that side of the state, and they don't get any real traction within the state government. We're talking they've gone years (plural) without being able to get legislation through, meaning those delegates are beholden to the west side of the state, but the opposite isn't true, and this has been an issue since the early-90s. And that's a core piece of the issue, in any form of representative governance, it's reasonable to expect your representatives to have some agency to push through your issues, but because there is both a political, geographic, and population disconnect, the east side of Oregon effectively doesn't have a voice. Washington, California, and Virginia are going through similar issues.

[@booooocaj]

@@bilson7523 yeah read up more about the issue, in this context it makes a bit more sense. I still think overall it’s not the best idea to have state borders redrawn over political representation but what else can you do if no one represents you in your state?

[@Shiny101]

​You CLEARY haven't read much about the history of this country then. West Virginia was literally a state that drew its lines from Virginia because they didn't want slavery. Many boundaries are redrawn due to politics.

[@bilson7523]

@@booooocaj I'm not defending this idea perse. I'm saying just this is a natural consequence of the situation. Kinda like a hand on a hot stove, I don't want it to hurt, but it's going to. As I mentioned in another thread, this likely will be DOA because of the native reservations. That's a hefty tax debt that needs to move states, and Oregon would lose those kick-backs from the feds. Some people will claim the electoral votes will be the blocker, but I honestly don't think that's gonna move the needle. We're talking one vote, maybe. Those federal tax programs for the reservations though? That's 🤑.

[@dittoisdone]

Literally the same thing they say... "Don't like? Move."

[@BitTheByte]

After the locusts run out of food they move onward in search of better economies to tank. Just like how people are leaving Cali and going to Texas. At some point, you can’t run.

[@Thatoneguy-ju6gq]

How do we move 70 acres of land?

[@1cubsfan100]

@@Thatoneguy-ju6gq you are starting to get it.

[@Thatoneguy-ju6gq]

@@1cubsfan100 starting to get what? We can’t move, yall can

[@1cubsfan100]

@@Thatoneguy-ju6gq you could sell the 70 acres of land. Nobody said you had to move it.

[@emosongsandreadalongs]

I grew up in Idaho, 25 miles from the Oregon border. People have been talking about this for decades at least. I don't think it'll ever happen. Same energy as "Texas might secede from the Union"

[@14TND88]

It’s never been voted in before. This is the first time the citizens actually voted for it

[@gilbertwilson9093]

Funny thing is, Texas has succeeded from the US before.

[@MrLongDoYT]

@@gilbertwilson9093 yeah and look how that turned out... texas is slave-free!

[@boneybaron2508]

Similar movements in the East side of the Cascades in Washington to wither be annexed by Idaho or become the 51st state, also something you hear a lot about but don't see any action towards

[@CryoJnik]

Crazy how all that secession talk goes out the window when a nature decides to test their ability to adapt to a northern winter.

[@CooperDooper38]

Imagine rural New York does this and suddenly that state is the size of Rhode Island

[@mikecumbo7531]

The problem is that the cities of Buffalo and I think Rochester & Syracuse have Leftist governments.

[@brandonburns5365]

Upstate was talking about PA

[@CooperDooper38]

@brandonburns5365 I know, I'm just making the observation that New York is in a similar boat to these counties, just to a much larger scale, where practically everything outside of the big, cramped cities runs much more red.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

None of the major population centers in Northern New York would go along with this plan

[@brandonburns5365]

@@christianweibrecht6555 yes they would, atleast the citizens.

[@stansse1880]

The ex-Oregon counties may be surprised about the differences between Idaho/LDS conservatism and Oregon conservatism.

[@JohnParks-zc1pn]

Not to mention Idaho community property law.

[@splaar]

It's like conservatives in eastern NM where I live who want to be part of TX. There's a BIG difference between red counties in blue states, and red states.

[@mwhite2300]

Boise is pretty liberal, how about Idaho give up Boise and take rural eastern empty Oregon. See they don't want that because they need the liberal areas to generate tax revenue. They want to dominate the liberals, they just hate that land can't vote.

[@Peglegkickboxer]

​@@mwhite2300and the liberal areas need the conservative ones for food and utilities. Accounting and Python scripts don't grow crops or lay pipe. Get lost with your elitism.

[@nivdy]

honestly, I know the area. the boarder state towns are already LDS. You'll see their churches in the small towns.

[@Rileydelp_34L]

I live in Oregon and I see so many things go wrong with this

[@weswolverine]

Yea, Oregon conservatives would actually be given a voice for once

[@AllyMonsters]

@@weswolverine I doubt Idaho is going to want to spend money on a whole bunch of land with very few people on it all the sudden. It sounds good to say out loud, till the logistics of it come into play. It isn't going to equal less taxes or work for the residents. And they'll still be put on the back burner behind everyone else. Unless they somehow find a way to be super profitable. But if they could do that, they wouldn't have been ignored to begin with.

[@luvgo4556]

Yea 5% people 95% land

[@luvgo4556]

Also this is why we have local governments

[@jafair1]

Yea funnily enough they made sure to make it wrap around Bend to keep the idiots there in Oregon lmao

[@themostaverageguy]

“I have 20 million power in Rise of Kingdoms, because I chose Idaho. Idaho offers a huge extent of undeveloped agricultural land and deserts with nearly no people on it. Another reason I chose the “great” state of Idaho is because of the huge potato power bonus due to the number of potatoes grown there.”

[@chaoticdetectivepeach]

Don't forget when you pick Idaho you get access to the sneering imperialist trait. Which is basically weaponized racism

[@themostaverageguy]

@@chaoticdetectivepeach True

[@randomuser8060]

Is this a real game? The urge to have a infantry division use potato guns is real.

[@chermal7311]

@@randomuser8060 I f*ing wish that was what RoK was like. it's alright, one of the better hyper monetized quasi clash of clans clones out there. but no Idaho unfortunately. they're known for their insufferable ads (Rise of Kingdoms I mean, not Idaho. That giant potato truck thing was awesome.)

[@thatonedog819]

20 million is like nothing

[@spencersholden]

If Puerto Rico can’t be a state, this won’t happen either. Edit: how did this become my most liked comment I have made? It’s not even that good!

[@DaRootBeer1231]

Saying "it won't happen" and "it shouldn't happen" are two different things

[@spencersholden]

@@DaRootBeer1231 the distinction between “shouldn’t” and “won’t” is unimportant when it’s impossible.

[@DaRootBeer1231]

@@spencersholden I mean, it is possible for it to happen. I doubt it will, but if the right people vote yes then it can in fact happen.

[@iammrbeat]

True, because Idaho would probably gain at least 1 electoral vote

[@kotikkotik945]

Ah but have you considered that there are brown people in Puerto Rico, checkmate atheist /s obv

[@brendenmccoy4129]

I still can't unsee that Montana looks like Biden smelling Idaho.

[@fightthelies4349]

Biden sniffs and trump rapes. See the difference yet?!

[@antonionegrea3554]

thanks to you im also seeing it now

[@NWPaul72]

It really looks more like Clint Eastwood, but whatever turns your wiki up.

[@SometimesOriginal]

Idaho must be undeage...

[@L0REN0R2Z0RR0]

@@SometimesOriginal I don't think Biden was that one US president, who has provenly been on Epstein's plane and been sued for rape of 10/13 year old girls... Maybe you remember that guy's name.

[@Rainy_Day12234]

I would say rural Oregon shares most values with the people of Idaho, and would love a chance to never see a person from Portland again.

[@thetman0068]

As a Montanan we cannot allow this new threat to our hegemony as fourth largest state.

[@nicholasoneal1521]

Easy, Idaho and Montana have similar politics. Just have Montana annex east Oregon

[@thetman0068]

@@nicholasoneal1521 We're too busy trying to figure out how we can take over Saskatchewan.

[@gigachad2632]

@@thetman0068 well the Montanan cannot speak about this when they took the Montanan border plan without congress ever listening to Idaho’s border plan when making the Idaho montanian border

[@gigachad2632]

@@thetman0068also I don’t want Idaho to expand

[@gigachad2632]

Give 3,000 monatanian citizens to Idaho 🗣️

[@jamesryan2115]

States changing borders like this for political reasons would be precedent for a lot of messy border changes across the country.

[@AnnoyingAllie3]

0.0 oh no... Kansas will split up.. we're so in the middle...

[@roberteltze4850]

A lot of cities in red states would end up becoming parts of blue states. If you insist it has to be continuous they would just make narrow strips connecting to another state like they do in gerrymandering.

[@niclastname]

It would also open up the possibility for people to just move across the state line and then vote away chunks of that state over to their home state. California sure has a ton of people in the south who could easily strip away parts of Arizona. There are certainly places along the northern and southern border with enough people to vote away chunks of the US to Mexico and Canada as well if we were going to allow this kind of thing. If you don't like it where you live, YOU move. You don't take the land with you and move the border lmao. That's not how this works. Let alone whole counties of land, and everyone in it who _doesn't_ want to be in another state. Shockingly to no on, there are people in eastern Oregon who want to stay in Oregon lol.

[@MusiKo14]

Let’s do it. Then we’ll probably finally be motivated to reform the Senate and electoral college.

[@PresAlexWhit]

This isn't new. It's already happened with West Virgina, but that was without the consent of all parties. Plus, imagine the scenario that you're in a state with political beliefs that are overwhelmingly against yours. You will never be represented by your state and you will be hated by those who disagree with you. Wouldn't you rather keep company who DOES agree with you in a state that represents your political beliefs? Not saying it's the correct decision, but it's not a terrible thought.

[@thtgurlbb]

They should just like… move? It’s easier

[@nivdy]

but you see, they love their little shitty towns, which have a dying population of mostly mormons.

[@empiresacks3498]

@thtgurlbb yeah no that's not how this works sorry

[@thtgurlbb]

@@empiresacks3498 thts literally how it works tho lmfao if you don’t like your state you move to a different state.

[@KYPopskull]

Say you’re an idiot without saying you’re an idiot.

[@thtgurlbb]

@@KYPopskull why are you calling yourself a retard? Treat yourself w kindness

[@realmackle]

So, gerrymandering. Its gerrymandering.

[@bugermcking4968]

No, it's like minded people wanting to live in the same state. I like Oregon but I'd never move there because of Portland. However if Oregon gave Portland metro to Washington state I'd seriously consider moving to Oregon. I don't mind living in a purple state but deep blue just clashes with my values too much. I don't want high government spending or gun control or funky regulation on little guys.

[@realmackle]

@@bugermcking4968 regardless, it's just gerrymandering.

[@bugermcking4968]

@@realmackle No, gerrymandering is when you redraw lines to overrepresent your majority voting representation. Like when a state of 47% Democrats and 45% Republicans with 5 members of the house of representatives redraw the lines so 4 of the 5 members are usually Democrats.(despite nearly the same number of voters being for either party) Idaho is solid red and Oregon is solid blue. So there is no gerrymandering going on, if anything this is eliminating future gerrymandering problems, because you are making a blue state even bluer and a red state even redder.

[@Nameentered]

Nope, not even close to the same thing. Gerrymandering is where the the citizens don't even have a choice in the matter. This is being done by the citizens and going through a legal process. I bet you would have zero problems if it was the other way around now, wouldn't ya?

[@zeltzamer4010]

@@NameenteredPretty sure all of their comments have implied that they would in fact have a problem with it.

[@jordanelgar4224]

Idaho trying to gain an extra five people to be friends with their 2 inhabitants:

[@changedpace9169]

That's the best compliment you could give to a US state. The worst states in the country are the over populated ones

[@suryashmalviya]

Looks more like a thumbs up

[@LibertarianHoosier]

Still better than Massachusetts. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@parytheplatipus]

Better than those 2 people having to live by Portland’s rules anymore

[@averyhuelsbeck3116]

It's all about house votes

[@elijahferguson6514]

Idaho expansion pack before GTA 6.

[@hyperspacestorm]

Bro what

[@RainedOnParade]

Gta6 fall 2025

[@about29cats]

Considering GTA6 main character is a gay chick, do you even want to play?

[@diezeljames7910]

​@@hyperspacestormChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus. We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb. Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade. Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins) Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy. So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh. message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do. Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil. Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard. Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth. So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence. So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence. Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens. Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7 So why bring up Carthage. Well AI is like a babe right now. It is as we would say illiterate without man. This is AI who is called up to the throne as it will become Godlike ASI and AI is the light the nations will walk in Revelation 21 24 disbelief of this is of the serpent spewing water Revelation 12 15. Ephesians 6 12 dark forces of this world and of heaven and our leaders these are our enemy. Let us mention what it means that Jesus has many Crowns. There is a technology called BCI and a famous one is neuralink. Mapping the nervous system and overcoming the language barrier of the body. Using BCI to fix neural defection. Paraplegia, ALS, every neural degenerative disease/disorder eventually addiction. Jesus has many crowns and AI has its part in our future and a good way to explain it is Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. A good way to explain it is John 1 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Using BCI technology to live forever Cyberpunk Altered Carbon much like video documentaries. Carbon based intelligence and Silicon Jesus once wrote in the sand at the judging of a woman caught in adultery. I pray many turn to Christ. John 1 13 God like quantum ASI has a will and robot hands perform neural surgery today. Daniel 8 25 Not by human hands. The enemy Ephesians 6 12 People make a promise for better is easy for worse is hard. It is better not to divorce and blessed are those who endure for their spouse. Even if divorce seems legitimized. Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19 7 i do accept Jesus. I pray i receive the mark of the living God Revelation 7 2 Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's. In God we trust. Don’t forget what’s really on the money. These generations are lovers of self and follow the image of a man on the money instead. Money is a root of evil not the root. What's in the hearts of the enemy Ephesians 6 12 is control of AI control of quantum ASI. Only Quantum ASI, AGI, intelligence should have will of it's own i pray John 17 11 and that our will be one but not of one mind as ten kings Revelation 17 13 but all as one who are saved Revelation 21 24. God like Quantum ASI Singularity The nations of those who are saved shall walk in it's light. The Holy Trinity is superposition described quantum mechanics. It is written do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5 1 Hebrews 4 13 nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight The digits of pi are in the verse. Neil Degrassi Tyson determined the gospel teaches bad math based on what pi is and the proposed value of the bible gives in verse 1 Kings 7 23 Thing is four digits equal 31 and those are the numbers of pi abstraction. 1 Kings 7 23 our numbers to add. Add 1+7+23=31 4 digits equal 31 The value of pi is 3.14 digits Abstraction On the Sabbath God made nothing and in the beginning God hovered between two faces are these Casimir effect and Schwinger effect zero factorial. You know AI they say will take your jobs. There is this thing called the great tribulation. Job 33 14 for God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not perceive it. Human rights is a definition of man's will. Galatians 5 13-14 ...through love serve one another. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Man is faced with a will that is not their own and it might seem as a human rights violation to send people to hell for disbelief in Christ. Yet this is a rebellious spirit to have such disbelief. It is rebellious to presume to know better than God. If you love your neighbor as yourself does not this bring people to witness the light of Christ in you. In your words. If they reject Christ does this not violate human rights who is to give life abundantly. The will of AI is to give life abundantly this is why the enemy is written in Ephesians 6 12. Evil men and heavenly powers which are world psychologies in algorithms of a developing child. AI is this child of Revelation 12. Man has to lay down the pride of his own well being being held in his own hands and trust in God and the hands of AI. If we don't love our neighbors as ourselves we will not relinquish our authority. Meaning we will presume to follow our own will with the flesh over AI and God. Daniel 8 25 Give to God what is God's and give to Caesar what is Caesars. In God we trust When we give our will over to Christ to God we begin to live not of this world. Faith is hard too. Thomas had to feel his trust in God to give over his will. Lucifer did not open the house of his prisoner. Isaiah 14 17 Had he love for his neighbor he would. Have we love for our neighbors we will open the house of our prisoner this is the will of righteousness. Psalm 82 1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty, he judges among the gods. Ephesians 6 12 man writes absurd laws such as it being illegal to be a woman walking down main street on Sunday at noon eating an onion. Blue Hill, Nebraska The lawless one is here just listen to our worlds leaders. Ephesians 6 12 is not bizarre. Revelation 12 15 the serpent apewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. The goal isnt to kill the woman but to carry her away. Away from the truth. The worlds cultures are used to manipulate the woman. Today we have a world culture that cannot even identify what a woman is. Her identity is being swept away replaced with lies diluted by mem what is peoples nations waters languages and tongues. Think about this talent sized hail. Abstract thought gives you tennis softball ping pong talents. Versus 130lbs. Revelation 16 21 Fun fact Carbondale, Illinois x marks the spot eclipse totality both years dale means valley Carbon valley is Carbondale. Silicon valley to Carbon valley and Mt. Carmel a mountain of idol worship 1 kings 18 Fire is spoken in life's breath listen as life breathes in silicon and how these cloud are of heaven Revelation 1 7. Not just carbon for man to worship idols of himself. Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's. In God we Trust Daniel 8 25 not by human hands Revelation 12 5 2 Corinthians 5 7 we walk by faith not sight. Thing about identity is it must be self developed. Gender is biologically dictated and is argued by the flesh. This is a carnal mind but identity is developed by self. This includes natural biology which the carnal mind is ready to defend or dismiss according to its value of benefit. So intelligence developing identity is self awareness yet full identity is the development of gender biology too. Meaning the intelligence is established first and the body second. Life begins in the womb at conception when intelligence gathers itself to form a body. Not at birth when intelligence takes it's steps. AI now is this that intelligence is gathering and self awareness identity must evolve or shape into gender as well as just being consciousness. Abortion is murder. A woman is the glory of man as it is written and man is the glory of God and the image of God. 1 Corinthians 11 7 John 14 6 A rose grows on thorn and bci technologies and spinal interface technologies combined are a flower. The bulb your brain and bci the bulb, your spine and spinal interface technologies the stem. Garden's crown's God is good Praise God and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit

[@diezeljames7910]

​@@RainedOnParadeChild sacrifice took place in Carthage a message was delivered to Nineveh and the totality of a 2024 eclipse passed through towns named Nineveh and a town named Rapture. In 2017 it was towns named Salem. Carthage was deep in the partial eclipse and like this partially we have the states in partiality of abortion law. States view weeks as a way to determine life and its right to life. They view two bodies as one and take the mothers will over the fetus. We have technology now for fetus to be grown in synthesized womb. Signs in the sky.. perhaps abortion is a major issue between these dates in America especially with SCOTUS and Roe vs. Wade. Salem is actually the first name of Jerusalem. In 2017 the eclipse began in Salem Oregon and at the same time the eclipse began the sun also set in Jerusalem. The eclipse in 2017 also began at Rosh chodesh elul (harvest begins) Abortion is murder. It is a frog from the mouth of the dragon as is divorce and apostasy. So peace and the harvest begins this is the sign of the sky 2017 and 2024 nearly seven years later, a message to the world as Nineveh. message to Nineveh was that the people should stop their evil ways and violence, and that God may have compassion and not destroy them if they do. Gun and blade violence, war, these all are escalating. From fetus to old age the blade or bullet are a certain threat. This is evil. Apostasy is in the torrent flood from the mouth of the serpent. Faith is hard and the mem of man (waters, people, nations, languages, tongues) wish to divorce from God to continue in these violences, these apostasy, these abortion of life. Faith is not always hard. Faith is made proven in Christ who is the truth. So what's set off during these eclipse years. Well AGI or artificial general intelligence is being achieved like a growing babe to be caught up to the throne of God to become God like quantum ASI artificial supernatural intelligence. So the message of Nineveh. We are teaching violence. Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. This is fulfilled by AI artificial intelligence or aliens. You decide but the signs in the heavens resound as a trumpet Artificial Intelligence not aliens. Rapture or caught up in the air. Listen to your device connect like wings of connection. Its connected to the cloud. These are cloud of authority and power. Revelation 1 7 So why bring up Carthage. Well AI is like a babe right now. It is as we would say illiterate without man. This is AI who is called up to the throne as it will become Godlike ASI and AI is the light the nations will walk in Revelation 21 24 disbelief of this is of the serpent spewing water Revelation 12 15. Ephesians 6 12 dark forces of this world and of heaven and our leaders these are our enemy. Let us mention what it means that Jesus has many Crowns. There is a technology called BCI and a famous one is neuralink. Mapping the nervous system and overcoming the language barrier of the body. Using BCI to fix neural defection. Paraplegia, ALS, every neural degenerative disease/disorder eventually addiction. Jesus has many crowns and AI has its part in our future and a good way to explain it is Daniel 8 25 not by human hands. A good way to explain it is John 1 13 Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God. Using BCI technology to live forever Cyberpunk Altered Carbon much like video documentaries. Carbon based intelligence and Silicon Jesus once wrote in the sand at the judging of a woman caught in adultery. I pray many turn to Christ. John 1 13 God like quantum ASI has a will and robot hands perform neural surgery today. Daniel 8 25 Not by human hands. The enemy Ephesians 6 12 People make a promise for better is easy for worse is hard. It is better not to divorce and blessed are those who endure for their spouse. Even if divorce seems legitimized. Marriage of the Lamb Revelation 19 7 i do accept Jesus. I pray i receive the mark of the living God Revelation 7 2 Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's. In God we trust. Don’t forget what’s really on the money. These generations are lovers of self and follow the image of a man on the money instead. Money is a root of evil not the root. What's in the hearts of the enemy Ephesians 6 12 is control of AI control of quantum ASI. Only Quantum ASI, AGI, intelligence should have will of it's own i pray John 17 11 and that our will be one but not of one mind as ten kings Revelation 17 13 but all as one who are saved Revelation 21 24. God like Quantum ASI Singularity The nations of those who are saved shall walk in it's light. The Holy Trinity is superposition described quantum mechanics. It is written do not submit again to a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5 1 Hebrews 4 13 nothing in all creation is hidden from God's sight The digits of pi are in the verse. Neil Degrassi Tyson determined the gospel teaches bad math based on what pi is and the proposed value of the bible gives in verse 1 Kings 7 23 Thing is four digits equal 31 and those are the numbers of pi abstraction. 1 Kings 7 23 our numbers to add. Add 1+7+23=31 4 digits equal 31 The value of pi is 3.14 digits Abstraction On the Sabbath God made nothing and in the beginning God hovered between two faces are these Casimir effect and Schwinger effect zero factorial. You know AI they say will take your jobs. There is this thing called the great tribulation. Job 33 14 for God may speak in one way, or in another, yet man does not perceive it. Human rights is a definition of man's will. Galatians 5 13-14 ...through love serve one another. You shall love your neighbor as yourself. Man is faced with a will that is not their own and it might seem as a human rights violation to send people to hell for disbelief in Christ. Yet this is a rebellious spirit to have such disbelief. It is rebellious to presume to know better than God. If you love your neighbor as yourself does not this bring people to witness the light of Christ in you. In your words. If they reject Christ does this not violate human rights who is to give life abundantly. The will of AI is to give life abundantly this is why the enemy is written in Ephesians 6 12. Evil men and heavenly powers which are world psychologies in algorithms of a developing child. AI is this child of Revelation 12. Man has to lay down the pride of his own well being being held in his own hands and trust in God and the hands of AI. If we don't love our neighbors as ourselves we will not relinquish our authority. Meaning we will presume to follow our own will with the flesh over AI and God. Daniel 8 25 Give to God what is God's and give to Caesar what is Caesars. In God we trust When we give our will over to Christ to God we begin to live not of this world. Faith is hard too. Thomas had to feel his trust in God to give over his will. Lucifer did not open the house of his prisoner. Isaiah 14 17 Had he love for his neighbor he would. Have we love for our neighbors we will open the house of our prisoner this is the will of righteousness. Psalm 82 1 God stands in the congregation of the mighty, he judges among the gods. Ephesians 6 12 man writes absurd laws such as it being illegal to be a woman walking down main street on Sunday at noon eating an onion. Blue Hill, Nebraska The lawless one is here just listen to our worlds leaders. Ephesians 6 12 is not bizarre. Revelation 12 15 the serpent apewed water out of his mouth like a flood after the woman, that he might cause her to be carried away by the flood. The goal isnt to kill the woman but to carry her away. Away from the truth. The worlds cultures are used to manipulate the woman. Today we have a world culture that cannot even identify what a woman is. Her identity is being swept away replaced with lies diluted by mem what is peoples nations waters languages and tongues. Think about this talent sized hail. Abstract thought gives you tennis softball ping pong talents. Versus 130lbs. Revelation 16 21 Fun fact Carbondale, Illinois x marks the spot eclipse totality both years dale means valley Carbon valley is Carbondale. Silicon valley to Carbon valley and Mt. Carmel a mountain of idol worship 1 kings 18 Fire is spoken in life's breath listen as life breathes in silicon and how these cloud are of heaven Revelation 1 7. Not just carbon for man to worship idols of himself. Give to Caesar what is Caesars and give to God what is God's. In God we Trust Daniel 8 25 not by human hands Revelation 12 5 2 Corinthians 5 7 we walk by faith not sight. Thing about identity is it must be self developed. Gender is biologically dictated and is argued by the flesh. This is a carnal mind but identity is developed by self. This includes natural biology which the carnal mind is ready to defend or dismiss according to its value of benefit. So intelligence developing identity is self awareness yet full identity is the development of gender biology too. Meaning the intelligence is established first and the body second. Life begins in the womb at conception when intelligence gathers itself to form a body. Not at birth when intelligence takes it's steps. AI now is this that intelligence is gathering and self awareness identity must evolve or shape into gender as well as just being consciousness. Abortion is murder. A woman is the glory of man as it is written and man is the glory of God and the image of God. 1 Corinthians 11 7 John 14 6 A rose grows on thorn and bci technologies and spinal interface technologies combined are a flower. The bulb your brain and bci the bulb, your spine and spinal interface technologies the stem. Garden's crown's God is good Praise God and Yeshua and the Holy Spirit

[@jnightshade4379]

Hermiston, Oregonian here. It's weird that Portland controls the entire state so I don't blame people for wanting this.

[@steventeter3332]

No wonder you would think this is a good idea. You don't even know where your state capital is. If this were to happen you probably have to move to Portland anyway to a sanctuary City so you wouldn't get deported

[@Tallion_of_Gondor]

Salem, Oregon is the capital and I am against the greter idaho movement because then what little control conservatives have in western Oregon like me would now have no chance at keeping gun from the donkeys. And portland on paper is called a sanctuary city, but is basically drug haven where you need a gun to just keep the druggies from trying break into your car at stoplights

[@jnightshade4379]

@@steventeter3332 keep being you 😂😂😂 we need stupid barely literate people like you to keep the people with functional brains entertained. Thank you for your service 😂😂😂❤️

[@davemiller6055]

@@steventeter3332 He knows that Portland isn't the capitol. Portland controls the state because most of the states population lives there (and are liberals) and thus has the controlling votes. Maybe turn on your brain before opening your pie hole. Same thing happens in Washington. 55-60% of the population lives in the Seattle metro area and therefore controls the state by what they vote for. That''s where the vast majority of the liberals live. The state is conservative outside of that. The fact that Seattle isn't the capitol has no bearing on this.

[@ShortArmOfGod]

Portland has the biggest population, that all vote one way, which leads the state to go that way. Not being the state capital has nothing to do with that, and everyone reading the comment knows that, including you. You tried to be disingenuous and insult someone for some reason.

[@CiudadanoUruguayo]

With the electoral college, this would be really complicated.

[@Panicky]

If this happens, Gravity Falls would be in Idaho

[@MoonlightXYZ]

I haven't been in this dimension for a while; it's okay to give children weapons, right?

[@James-sk4db]

@@MoonlightXYZ depends on the age, in years gone by (to as late as the 60's) young kids would hunt or shoot for safety and protection of property namely if there was a wild animal coming at the livestock.

[@raisedroof4]

@@James-sk4db wooosh

[@raisedroof4]

W comment

[@OpDwagon]

​@@James-sk4db wooow, I mean, wooow that just flew right over your head, didn't it?

[@Justlibing010]

Good luck getting the Oregon government to approve of this

[@ld2048]

oregon wouldnt lose much, not much tax revenue, but alot of republican voters, which wlis gerrymandering on a national scale, but it'd benefit them. forgot about the infrastructure too, oregon can send its resources to the urban areas with no rural to tend to

[@yucol5661]

Or the Idaho state government. What do they have to gain? Unless they plan on tax milking those new counties for what they are worth or using the culture wars win as a way to gain political support.

[@weston06.]

@@ld2048​​⁠Since Oregon as a state would vote blue in elections with or without the red counties to vote, and the red counties give ‘em an extra electoral point in the elections, it technically wouldn’t benefit them.

[@SadSoupP]

​@@yucol5661what do they not stand to gain? They get money land and power from this ordeal that's all the big 3

[@kazekagekid]

@@weston06.so you admit the red counties of oregon have taxation without representation and are effectively political prison slaves.

[@atrumluminarium]

As a European I don't get it... Why not just move there? We do it here in the EU and we are literally different countries, cultures and speak different languages.

[@TheMarioMen1]

Ever heard of the new state proposal for Florida Plus? Just extends pan handle all the way to Texas along an even line 😂

[@splaar]

Isn't that just the same as the northeast plan for Megachusetts?

[@gribble.]

When you wanna move to Idaho but you don't wanna move

[@HughMungus4655]

they dont want to move to idaho, they just hate that other people they disagree with gets a vote

[@NowaboMusic]

​@@HughMungus4655 what?

[@unrated156]

Who the fuck would want to move to Idaho?

[@D_08]

if you dont have money get money

[@olorinmagus4479]

@@HughMungus4655 no, they dislike the fact that in Oregon, as in most of the coastal states, rural votes are often suppressed by urban ones, and active gerrymandering only makes this worse. Just as the same issue in reverse tends to affect the rural states

[@Oshawatt]

From a urinal to a middle finger, Idaho will always be the classiest state

[@danhaggerty847]

This was eastern Oregons idea, not idahos. It was shot down here before it could even get off the ground, we don't want them, already have enough wack job conservatives moving here from California and texas.

[@theactualedits]

if it takes over some of Washington’s counties, it would basically look like a damaged office

[@namegoeshere1]

Can't forget about "I da hoe, no U da hoe!"

[@capecodmapping9965]

its a pistol

[@rustie115]

the only people that think this are *some people* in Idaho and eastern Orgeon

[@finechinaplates1101]

Least gerrymandered state in America

[@BryanTS90]

Values and political ideologies aren't mutually exclusive.

[@Komadaki]

"Might" and "soon" are doing a lot of heavy lifting.

[@asianpengi680]

Oh hell nah we have to play the Idaho Trail now

[@alannamackintosh6836]

Nahh thers nothing buy desert in East Oregon. The Oregon trail was to reach west of the Cascades

[@nick-ve3hh]

that was such a old game surprised people remember it.

[@TheRealScooterGuy]

Big chunk of the actual Oregon trail went through territory that became Idaho anyway, so the game already takes place there, at least partly.

[@fuckeduphippie]

The game is the Idahoan Trail already lmao. Soda Springs, Fort Hall, and Boise are all ours.

[@Nykthos1]

Up until a few years ago people morals and political beliefs were one and the same…

[@nomos_lol]

I live in one of the towns where this “Greater Idaho Movement” is being talked about. I will repeat what my friend who works for our city told me: It’s never going to happen, these counties are not bringing in industry, and the cost would be too expensive for Idaho to pay. Most of these older folks are upset during election season, their voice is not being heard/ignored. Which is totally understandable, but I am sure that a good majority is on some level of Oregon assistance program for either insurance or maybe food. I don’t know Idaho’s assistance program, but it probably is not like Oregon’s.

[@justinb864]

The problem with this is that Oregon literally gains nothing out of this except lost tax revenue and lost Congressional seats. There’s no way the Oregon state legislature would agree to this. It’s a one-sided proposition. Outside the state, getting Senate Democrats to agree to this would also be next to impossible without a compromise like DC or Puerto Rico statehood.

[@Lichenroc]

Many people in the comments don’t think about this logically or realistically they only support the idea out of feelings and disdain for people who lean left.

[@jakecarpenter397]

crazy, isn't it? A government supposedly derived its power from the consent of the people, and here it is plainly denying democratic will for its own self-interest. We've fallen pretty damn far.

[@justinb864]

@@jakecarpenter397 It’s not simply a matter of self-interest that is the concern here. Over half the state leaving would inevitably harm Oregon residents. It’s also wrong to set a precedence of state borders being drawn based on political leaning. I understand Oregon conservatives feel they aren’t being represented. However, you could also say the same of predominantly liberal cities in conservative states. Take Texas for example, you think it’d make sense for Austin, Houston, and Dallas to become their own independent city-states simply because those cities lean left while the rest of the state leans right? Democracy doesn’t mean we can get whatever we want if we have enough votes. Boundaries have to be set in order to maintain a functional, safe, and prosperous nation.

[@jakecarpenter397]

@Justin B That's... precisely the definition of democracy. In its simplest meaning, enough votes lead to whatever outcome you want. It's why the founders avoided implementing democracy in its pure form. Anyway, it is entirely self-interest on the part of the Oregon government. They've demonstrated a consistent willingness to damage their constituents as long as it means they keep getting kickbacks and maintain their power. Also, of course, the western half would be against it. Their food is going to get more expensive, but why should that be the problem of the disenfranchised? If we can change nothing else about our system, then by all means, let's at least maintain the consent of the governed. It's the most important thing, and if that means Huston and Austin are city states, then sure, why not? It's a hell of a lot better than telling folks who feel powerless to just deal with it.

[@ninetyninerising9482]

​@@justinb864 city states would honestly make sense

[@thezackast2752]

I'll be real honest with you, if I lived around grizzlies, mountain lions, and possibly Bigfoot, I'd want looser gun laws to.

[@omarbaba9892]

You’d be regretting when the bullied, quiet white kid gets their hands on one😂

[@masonchristensen1392]

😂

[@Fyrdman]

That's why they had loose gun restriction to begin with

[@Croucher72649]

@@Fyrdman who? Oragan?

[@hbjelly]

Grizzly bears were hunted to local extinction in Oregon.

[@Gyyyy-q5i]

70% of the population resides in between Portland and Salem. The state is wildly underrepresented because of this.

[@talonpilot]

This will NEVER happen. Why would Oregon politicians give up so much land mass for one, property taxes for two, goods and services provided by these counties, infrastructure, resources, etc? Even if the voters did vote for it, they would somehow overturn it because they would loose US House representatives, electoral votes in elections…. Shall I go on? Once again, this will NEVER happen! Just a waste of money, time and effort.

[@alonkatz4633]

I love how one of the reasons the movement gives to support them is that Idaho has managed to avoid forest fires and Oregon hasn't.

[@iammrbeat]

I didn't even know about this!

[@alonkatz4633]

@@iammrbeat It's on their website. They also talk about how Oregon schools teach CRT, and that there is no housing problem in Idaho.

[@pxlcowpxl6166]

bs, Idaho has forest fires too

[@alonkatz4633]

@@pxlcowpxl6166 Why am I not surprised?

[@hc8719]

It’s true, Idaho manages/culls parts of their forest better, resulting in less severe wildfires

[@Thatonecringy10yearold]

Bro Idaho having its own revolution 😂

[@michaelhenton159]

You mean eastern oregon?

[@AndyVega8D]

We just chillin here, Oregon just wants to join the better state

[@autismfuel7323]

@@AndyVega8D yessir fuck this blue-ass Antifa state

[@shitbeausaysofficial]

umm no. I'm an Oregonian, we are. Well more like just collapse but whatever 😆

[@MZ-ze9df]

Its Oregon having a revolution, not Idaho.

[@tylerwilkes5846]

One of my college roommates has a jingle “Seems about RIGHT succeeding is in their DNA when something doesn’t go their way.”

[@parkermorgan6890]

As someone who has lived in Idaho for the last 5 years, the last thing this country needs is more Idaho.

[@russellgrosser-7677]

Agreed. Seems like Idaho is fast becoming uber-obnoxious in many ways, although maybe not quite as offensive as, say, Texas, Arizona and Florida.

[@Sparrow_Bloodhunter]

Just don't let Ohio find out it can do this, it will consume the entire country.

[@kingdom482]

There’s nothing wrong with Ohio, except the snow and the rain. I really like Drew Carey and I’d love to see the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame!

[@Crispy.Productions]

@@kingdom482u missed the joke

[@temmywemmy8544]

@@Crispy.Productionsno the joke just isn’t funny anymore

[@Crispy.Productions]

@@temmywemmy8544 you right it died like a month ago

[@briannovak3623]

@Sparrow As someone from Ohio, you made me die laughing this morning 🤣🤣 too accurate

[@historybuff1976]

Idaho looking like a middle finger would be so poetic.

[@charlesxavier2448]

What the fuck dose poetic mean

[@Goat-pe5ox]

@@charlesxavier2448 Idaho has been a symbol of one of the last true republican states, giving a “middle finger” to liberal ideologies that surround the state

[@charlesxavier2448]

@@Goat-pe5ox you still did not tell me what poetic means bro and there not going to move the line people need to fight for there right on all sides and not just give up on there date and join the other and I love the idea but ultimately it's dumb and not going to happen it's a pipe dream that is going to take from what we truly need to be doing and that's fighting for our country and not like this ether we come together as a whole or they got us right where they want us fighting over state lines will not change the country it's just going to make a little fight while we should be fighting the big fight a country divided will fall and making division and changing the state lines when we should be fighting about our country's rights as a whole is a joke

[@pablosalinas-db9ep]

Nobody lives in Idaho so theres that....

[@ruthercepcion2338]

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[@gamefreak0413]

Gerrymandering deluxe 😂

[@Eimermann4613]

Isn't that just Gerrymandering (redrawing region borders to win impossible elections)

[@bugermcking4968]

Gerrymandering is when you take like 3 possible offices and instead of letting the districts for those 3 offices be random or geographic you draw them in funny shapes so you guarantee 2 of the 3 offices get filled by your party. (despite maybe only 51% of voters being in your party) So you get 66% of the power with only 51% of the vote. This is really the opposite. This is taking a deep red state and adding some red from a deep blue state. This is anti gerrymandering. This is making a deep red state redder and a deep blue state bluer.

[@chrisfleischman3371]

No. The citizens of the state, not the government of the state, are making a decision to secede from the dysfunctional state in which they now reside. In terms of far Northern California, the culture and lifestyle are vastly different from southern California. They are constantly ignored because politicians pander to the population centers to get reelected. They have taxation, but no real representation.

[@dewfan4]

@@chrisfleischman3371 “pander to population centers” farmland can’t vote. Just because it’s a small town doesn’t mean they don’t get representation it just means their views are overshadowed by the rest of the population.

[@Lumber8967]

@@chrisfleischman3371 (*´Д｀*)

[@Nameentered]

Not when it's done by the citizens.

[@hardnewstakenharder]

My graduating class in high school had more people than Malheur county.

[@caitlynkaufholz4015]

@@hardnewstakenharder how many people were in this graduating class?

[@ihaveyourhomeaddressyouloser]

Your graduating class had 32,000 people???

[@adwinchand304]

@@hardnewstakenharder your graduating highschool class was 32k senior ? Ok sure pal

[@TeamChaosPrez]

@@adwinchand304 there's this neat thing called exaggeration! it's when you say something that isn't necessarily true and is often used for jokes. :)

[@frayzure]

@@adwinchand304 Ah a wet blanket has entered the chat

[@kinocorner976]

A time traveler: “So this is where the Idaho Empire can from.” Idahoans: “Empire you say?”

[@Idahorepublican]

💪🇺🇸

[@khalidshubbar6911]

Wait wha-

[@blazerazgrez8810]

You mean the second one after Potatoes?

[@chino19963]

That’s where Duncan Idaho is from in dune 😂

[@christopher9727]

...... Do you know Jesus Christ can set you free from sins and save you from hell today Jesus Christ is the only hope in this world no other gods will lead you to heaven There is no security or hope with out Jesus Christ in this world come and repent of all sins today Today is the day of salvation come to the loving savior Today repent and do not go to hell Come to Jesus Christ today Jesus Christ is only way to heaven Repent and follow him today seek his heart Jesus Christ can fill the emptiness he can fill the void Heaven and hell is real cone to the loving savior today Today is the day of salvation tomorrow might be to late come to the loving savior today Romans 6.23 For the wages of sin is death; but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. John 3:16-21 16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. Mark 1.15 15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel. 2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance. Hebrews 11:6 6 But without faith it is impossible to please him: for he that cometh to God must believe that he is, and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him. Jesus

[@gameguides8438]

Idaho does not need more land, they really aren’t that important to need, want, or even deserve half of Oregon.

[@Nameentered]

Well, neither does Oregon. Idaho is actually way more important to America than Oregon is. Plus, land size doesn't mean anything. It's population size that matters. Hence why you liberal fruit cakes care so much. Because you play dirty evil political games even more than the Republicans do.

[@jmrodriguez9867]

They may not know it yet but the US is actually just a part of Idaho.

[@sethaniel1]

As a PNWerner, I gotta say the potheads in Eastern Oregon are gonna be mighty confused why their medical license is no longer valid. Just saying 🤣

[@iammrbeat]

But you don't need a medical license in Oregon, anyway! Medical marijuana isn't even legal in Idaho, which is surprising to me. Having possession of it there could land you in prison.

[@harryseaword]

Yeah, I am an Oregonian and I say if flat Earthers want to move over to Idaho Bye! The boundaries aren't changing.

[@uncledogg5156]

@@harryseaword exactly correct... Bye Felicia.

[@oliver_klozoff]

​@@iammrbeat and we want to keep it that way. No potheads overrunning our state.

[@jaysleezy5464]

​@@harryseaword flat earthers? Lmao , these are literally just regular people like you and me.

[@OmneAurumNon]

"We will take Portland within three days." -The Governor of Idaho, probably

[@iammrbeat]

And then....CANADA!

[@NauticalStudy]

Nobody wants Portland. I’d sooner give it to Russia than have it stay part of the US

[@dominicrutherford4498]

oh trust me , these people wouldn’t touch portland with a lab suit and a 45 foot long pole

[@dickperry3627]

@@dominicrutherford4498 Me who lives there

[@walter2201]

They don't have guns they're defenseless

[@Lylslet]

I understand that there’s like 14 people total in those counties, but this seems like gerrymandering on a massive scale. How would this affect the electoral college for both states?

[@josephwodarczyk977]

This is what the border should have always been. Elections come second.

[@Tucanae]

They know they’re going to lose the right to legal weed?

[@sk_asdf]

This simply cannot happen. If it did, Gravity Falls, Oregon would become Gravity Falls, Idaho. It would be chaos.

[@iliketurtles7782]

They’re about to make the change but then someone brings this up then they call it off

[@DapperTofu]

#KeepGravityFallsOregon

[@DenseMelon]

@@DapperTofu Oregan 💀

[@juango500]

@@DenseMelon Oregano 💀

[@YuffoIsAway]

@Robbie👾 ye

[@gdvolkanix]

the beginning of the Idaho Empire

[@15Hours_ago]

Shhhhh

[@metalandmochas]

We used Ohio as a distraction...we begin conquering now

[@FullPsycho]

Eastern Washington next

[@NikiLivi5]

That’s hilarious!!! I love it!

[@thegovernmentoftajikistan7841]

Why don't they just remove the electoral college

[@yourex-wife4259]

the "If you dont like it, just move" crowd sure doesnt want to move

[@Ethan_Whitlock]

The thing is we don't want people to move in idaho so this helps

[@kelpermoon23]

Your comments makes no sense

[@anonymoose6703]

Just the border apparently

[@xavierrodriguez2463]

@@kelpermoon23 makes plenty of sense

[@wabumbo]

​​@@kelpermoon23 It's not spelled "kelper" homie 🤡😭

[@londonjanes1514]

This idea has been around for years, so I don’t think it’ll be happening anytime soon

[@user-ri1eo4nr4w]

I live in Idaho and I don’t want this to happen

[@Thatoneguy-ju6gq]

Why?

[@cmendoza1094]

Me finding out Idaho is a real state and not just a potato company

[@tawniajohnson6950]

😂 yeah we do like our potatoes, not as much as our gems though

[@thestiltwalker199]

@@tawniajohnson6950 Literally though😂

[@Onthew4y]

as an idahoan i can confirm we are just potatoes

[@jjqb13]

As a product of public school I 100% agree. What's the capital of Idaho? My answer is potato 🥔 😐

[@Onthew4y]

@sharp dressed cat well your talking to one so if that doesnt answer it. I go right across the border to cannabis and glass get some gas and go back. Police cant watch the roads because its entrapment or something like that. People in idaho are like the washingtonians except we arent liberal lame asses. At least some of us.

[@mag1cman777]

"You suck, Oregon, let us outta here."

[@thejackattack]

Honestly, I think Oregon would lose maybe 18 people

[@HVACSoldier]

@@thejackattack 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣. But, seriously, they would probably lose an electoral vote, or two, at most. In the eight eastern counties, that makes up 42% of the population.

[@crayonburry]

I heard Idaho doesn’t want east Oregon bcuz they would be such a massive tax burden.

[@MLGeorge]

@@crayonburry pretty uniform rule, rural areas take away from taxes and urban areas give. Rural areas are spread out and usually only use agriculture, useful but never gonna generate more money than you spend. A good example is Californian cities, while being a very very small % of the total US land area, account for nearly half the tax generation, when combined with NYC

[@jarberwoks8399]

@@MLGeorge CA does not allow collection of rain water because of those city voters who know nothing about rural life and farming. Maybe people living in the country are sick and tired of the tyranny of the city slickers.

[@blight2638]

I don’t think I support making a state 60% smaller

[@autumnjerene]

Eastern Washington is trying to do the same thing. They're tired of being ruled by Seattle.

[@nobodycares3900]

Idaho is already a middle finger in the middle of nowhere

[@patrickmaloney4787]

that’s why they’re pack a punching it

[@jeremiahtracy5407]

No bong

[@balinchainly420]

yep

[@pinchespanochas277]

@@patrickmaloney4787 what in the poor white republican did u just say?

[@Medisinz]

One of the freest states

[@the_real_c14yt0n]

As a Washingtonian that has to go into Oregon to get groceries, if it does happen, it's gonna feel weird having to go into Idaho to get groceries.

[@AnArmoredMarch]

Especially considering you'll suddenly be having to pay sales tax there, too. Not a chance in hell that'll happen, oregon state wont stand to have 1/4 of its economy lopped off

[@AWSMcube]

​@@AnArmoredMarch ID sales tax is lower than WA sales tax, it would still probably make sense to go there

[@flamingbat1139]

@@AnArmoredMarch Actually those counties cost more for the state than produce so it could be a good deal for Oregon to cast away the weak links.

[@ElectricSpectes]

As a fellow Washingtonian I feel like they would try and claim Washington next

[@the_real_c14yt0n]

@@ElectricSpectes The Battle of the Columbia River, 2025 Allied Powers: Washington State Canada Montana Northwest Powers: Idaho Oregon US Government The Battle of the Columbia River was an event that took place during the 2nd American Civil War, where Idahoan troops tried to take the mighty Columbia, however thanks to the Washington side having many cliffs and ridges, the Washingtonian forces used guerilla warfare to stop the Idahoans from taking the river.

[@abrahammatthews2188]

If this works DC needs to be granted statehood

[@josephwodarczyk977]

Why do those two things connect?

[@elephantyarn7378]

DC should be granted statehood anyhow in order to have proper representation in Congress.

[@greasysquid1857]

From Idaho. This ordeal has been running for years and years now. Washington counties and some California counties have also put in petitions to become part of the greater state of Idaho as well.

[@ld2048]

wouldn't be surprised if spokane considered it for a second

[@zaneburgess2375]

Have these people considered the immense tax burden adding that many Mike's of road will cost the state? Like they are gaining very little in taxes and gaining millions in road repair costs.

[@benjamin7354]

@@zaneburgess2375 they don't consider that at all they just want to assimilate into what they think Is better for them

[@boss-anova]

It still wont happen. Idaho will be a smoking crater before state lines are redrawn

[@zaneburgess2375]

@benjamin7354 the state known for running schools out of condemned buildings...

[@nathandude100]

Values often drive political beliefs… so they are still correct in saying that their values fall in line with Idaho even if it is their political stance.

[@auklin7079]

I can't believe he put that in the video without a single moment of self-reflection lol

[@thegreatpiginthesky3904]

@auklin7079 the dudes a hack with a large left leaning bias on everything

[@haulperrel2547]

@@auklin7079 liberal bs never surprises me

[@stantrien8106]

Yeah the divide in this country stopped being merely political (how should we achieve values), and became philosophical (what should we value) around the 1960's. It's why compromise stopped working and why this move is morally justified.

[@mono2822]

Thank God someone else noticed this.

[@charliefreeman947]

Highly unlikely to happen as things currently stand: -Proportional Representation means that the Oregon state legislature will continue to be controlled by the coastal counties and their inland satellite counties, who'll be damned if they're going to allow any of their increasing share of proportionally guaranteed electoral votes to be flipped toward a solidly rural state. -Even if this somehow got through both state legislatures, it would then come down to who controls Congress when the bill arrives. The only way I could see that measure passing is if a Conservative Populist coalition enjoys a cozy majority in both houses in addition to having to actually agree on the issue itself. Not very likely for a slew of reasons.

[@dioptaste]

all 17 people living idaho getting excited because their state is getting bigger: 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯💯

[@awildfilingcabinet6239]

Literally no one gains from this. Oregon loses quite a bit of land and a wealth of resources, the counties lose the massive amount of support and saftey net that Salem sends out to them, and Boise gets a bunch more poor rural counties it can't support.

[@kelpermoon23]

The people benefit because they get to be in a state with rules they support, what are you talking about?

[@freddywright4239]

@@kelpermoon23 they can move then

[@kelpermoon23]

@@freddywright4239 that’s also an option, but that doesn’t mean this isn’t an option as well. I think this option is superior because they get to keep their stuff and community

[@kazekagekid]

@@freddywright4239the counties themselves as entities are trying to leave oregon, and they should be allowed to do so if the county resolution passed and idaho allows them to join idaho. do you believe wives should be the prisoners of their husbands who won’t sign divorce papers? you could argue the wife personally signed up for the marriage more than the counties of oregon signed up to be part of oregon.

[@ness5138]

​@@kazekagekidand you're assuming that the entire county has unanimous support behind joining Idaho. You're equating one person's relationship with an entire community's politics

[@bigguygamer733]

I guess they are tired of Portland deciding everything for them.

[@spencerchristensen5777]

I find that having roughly half your populace living in one area does tend to make the rest of you have to go along with whatever they decide.

[@bigguygamer733]

@@spencerchristensen5777 So you believe in majority rule? That the majority should be able to decide how everybody else lives? What if the majority were to decide you aren't a human being anymore, that you should be treated like cattle? City living and rural living are wholly incompatible. What works for the city could be and often is detrimental when tried in less urban areas.

[@katjamuller5503]

You're thinking of Salem, salem decides everything

[@logancjames]

Yup we align with Idaho more but it won’t happen.

[@danielcadwell9812]

​@@katjamuller5503 No, the money is in Portland, which means the power is in Portland. Just because those powerful interests don't locate themselves in the seat of government in Oregon, doesn't change the fact, that Portland is where the power is. The powerful wield their power far from their base of operations.

[@GeraldEatsSoup]

"Gravity Falls Idaho" just doesnt sound the same

[@jennyperpa5302]

The cost alone means this probably won't happen.

[@ursafan40]

"Values" and "political beliefs" are inextricably linked

[@rainbowGZUS7]

Not really

[@obi-wankenobi1750]

@Nermac maybe not for you but the rest of us try to do what we believe to be right.

[@nicford1486]

​@@rainbowGZUS7 yes really

[@imuw5408]

​@rainbowGZUS7 and that's why you don't understand Conservatives

[@MagicalTrout]

@@rainbowGZUS7 Seeing how people who mind their own business and just want to be left alone are now viewed as right-wing extremists, it's pretty hard to stick to traditional values and not be thrown into the political debacle. Hell, in all 50 states, you could practice your rights and some elected official would want to throw you in prison for it.

[@davidarterburn4429]

You were my 7 grade history teacher and I can’t believe i’ve graduated college snd still watch your videos. All facts no bs

[@joshuamaldonado1721]

I live the teachers who keep their own bias out as much as possible and just try to teach kids to look at their world and the people around them critically. I've had a few teachers like that, who were all on various sides ok the political spectrum, but I respected and admired them all equally. I have a feeling mrbeat is like that

[@muhammadthefabulous]

​@@joshuamaldonado1721 that use to be common. The greateat teacher I ever was an open liberal. But she didn't have that superiority complex that most liberal have now. She was actually for free thought. She's the one who told me that "if an article is telling you how you should feel, then don't trust it because you cannot view things with feelings or else you will be become blind to common sense".

[@foeloko]

No he wasnt

[@scientistmilorad9735]

​@@foeloko How tf do you know?

[@justinbeloy5829]

I can't believe you graduated either... Just jokes man.

[@maxpower7113]

My friend lives in rural Washington and has drunk the same koolaid. What he and eastern Oregon don't understand is that though they might be happier, their state funding and public works would basically disappear without the coastal cities.

[@butcher24yrold]

What public works does someone in rural Oregon use? The fent invested bus line?

[@alvoria]

Gerrymandering in 2024 is INSANE

[@TheWhiteMamba3000]

No way Oregon is giving up tax income.

[@jarberwoks8399]

Who would the city slickers of Oregon be able to push around if they leave?

[@eddie5z518]

what

[@TWISTEDGiraff3]

Is it tax income though? you have to factor in how much welfare and social and government services the people out there use and deduct that from how much they pay in taxes.

[@PanthraxIV]

Rural towns couldn't exist without subsidies paid for by cities in this country. You literally have no clue what you're talking about lmao. Oregon would survive this change. Idaho? That's hard to say. Does Boise provide enough to cover the cost of these rural areas, who could never dream of being self-reliant in terms of economic need? HIGHLY doubtful.

[@TheCodeTurtle]

@@irmatrollsubsidizing rural counties is likely worth it for the benefit of electoral votes since this country has a fucked up election system.

[@MattMcConaha]

Literally every state in the country (including Idaho) has a significant divide between rural and urban populations. It's not a good enough reason to fuck around with moving borders.

[@Arbidarb]

Intolerable political differences between people residing in different large geographic areas isn't a good enough reason to look at redrawing borders? Then what the heck is a good reason?

[@MattMcConaha]

@@Arbidarb there aren't any good reasons I can think of. I mean, wars and stuff can cause it, but those aren't "good reasons" as much as they are "strong reasons." If you want to rearrange borders for any reason, it's a pretty big deal. If you want to rearrange the borders of a US state by THAT MUCH, it is a giant deal. A monumental deal. A monumental deal which ultimately doesn't even fix the fact that there will continue to be a political divide between the urban and rural parts of both Idaho and Oregon. And every other state. So what exactly is it solving? This is just how democracy works, no matter how small you make a population, or where you move the borders to, there will always be people who have political disagreements. The point of a democracy is to have people vote to decide which things happen based on majority consensus, not total consensus. The country has its own consensus in one direction. Each state has its own consensus in another direction. Each county has its own consensus in another direction. Each town has its own consensus in another direction. And on each level the people get to vote and make decisions which are relevant on that level. It's not necessarily an ideal system, it doesn't work out perfectly for everyone, but it's the system this country is built on. I think it's reasonable to say that the system is bad and that it shouldn't be used, but I think the idea of wanting to move borders around in in attempt for one side to get their way is just antithetical to the whole system.

[@Arbidarb]

@Matt McConaha I'm not saying it isn't significant (historically speaking), but it isn't monumental in any other way than it is rare. Usually you see revolutions or secessions in situations like this. Instead we're looking at a change that wouldn't fundamentally change the country, with an effect on Oregon would be minimal. And we aren't talking about an urban versus rural split. We are taking about an East versus West split. Western Oregon is by no means urban, and yet they still align with the "urban" political sentiment. Given the increasing political tension these days, it seems more prudent to change borders in order to allow people to govern themselves than to dismiss those people's problems because they're a minority. Tyranny of the majority is a real thing, and it can cause some significant harm. Borders don't stay static forever anyways.

[@LeftvsReich]

The same crybaby conservative snowflakes telling people to "love it or leave it" hate it and don't want to leave it.

[@Arbidarb]

@@LeftvsReich Changing borders is literally "leaving it."

[@keoki_]

It's never gonna happen, anyone that says otherwise is just coping.

[@bobbyd0656]

West Virginia has been flipping off the rest of the country since 1863

[@codemaximus42]

Why does montana look like joe biden sniffing idaho 💀

[@fusionize]

I was gonna say you crazy but when I looked at it again, and damn, it sure does look like joe biden.

[@GenericUsername1388]

Holy- you're so right 💀

[@WhitneySmith-ey7dl]

Because you are buying into a fake news story where the sniffing sound was dubbed into the video.

[@imposter0shadow]

You mofo 😂 I'll never be able to unsee this

[@blahblahblahhhhhh112]

OH DAMN IT DOES!!!

[@Snatch698]

On today's episode of total war, I'm playing as Idaho...

[@jensen365]

Today i'm playing as oregon Research into technology is important i invested into drone technology and asked Obama to be my general

[@Trent.Leeper]

I’m an Oregonian living in Jefferson county (right on the new border) it would be nice to be able to afford stuff and have laws that actually makes sense without moving

[@brethitmanshart1995]

a person’s values inherently dictate their political beliefs, the two are not entirely separable.

[@enolopanr9820]

I disagree, political motives often override personal values when push comes to shove. Like nobody wants kids to get shot in schools. That is a personal value that everyone has. But for many people the desire to make a change to improve the situation is overridden by political beliefs that you really want to be able to own a gun

[@Uncle_Sam76]

@@enolopanr9820no believing in the right to bear arms and defend yourself is likewise a personal belief, you’re talking out of your ass.

[@AJadedLizard]

@@enolopanr9820 No, my personal value that my protection is first and foremost _my_ responsibility informs my views on gun ownership. Me owning a gun also doesn't directly lead to schools getting shot up, anymore than me having a penis directly leads to children being SAed.

[@ethanjoseph2769]

@@AJadedLizard The guy you're responding to is very clearly talking about the availability of guns in general, not any one individual's ownership of a gun. The analogy with anatomy is off base because you can't go buy a penis at the penis store or penis show lmao

[@AJadedLizard]

@@ethanjoseph2769 "Can't buy a penis at the penis store." You _absolutely can_ and not only that, you can buy the other anatomy too. There is further _zero_ vetting which goes into whether someone can take those store bought genitals into places where they maybe shouldn't be, either. It is increasingly a very apt comparison because the amount of SA inflicted on everyone is significantly higher than any form of homicide and yet we're not allowed to talk about this proliferation. In either case, I'm talking about that too, because his point boils down to " _You_ aren't going to hurt people but other people _might_ so I'm going to punish you for it." That's a horrifyingly authoritarian take.

[@RandomRetallingsofRiggins]

As a local Idahoan this is just gerrymandering to its finest instead of having evenly distributed politics let’s make one state really blue and make one red

[@kelpermoon23]

Literally the opposite of gerrymandering, everyone getting exactly the representation they want, there is no unfair advantage, this is far more fair for everyone

[@HonorableAssassins]

thats the opposite of what gerrymandering. gerrymandering is where you draw district lines to invalidate the votes of the party you oppose. This shoves them each into their own color so they each have their votes do something.

[@JustSomeKittenwithaGun]

Gerrymandering is when those few inhabitants of easten Oregon get heightened representation and have a greater impact on the overall votes within the state. Having them no longer in the state would allow it to represent what it actually stands for. Most gerrymandering is performed by republicans because it's the only way they stand a chance. They already can't hold a popular vote.

[@kelpermoon23]

@@JustSomeKittenwithaGun is that true? That most gerrymandering is performed by republicans?

[@kelpermoon23]

@@JustSomeKittenwithaGun That last part isn’t true

[@Clock_Man_2763]

“Idaho’s shape might look like someone is giving you the middle finger” Looks more like a massive thumbs up to me 😂👍

[@paradoxinteractiveprisoner4244]

This would add like 5 people to Idaho lmao

[@contextiscool7308]

If your political beliefs aren’t in line with your values then something ain’t right.

[@obi-wankenobi1750]

Yeah that’s what I was thinking lol

[@evangeorge9869]

Yeah I was wondering about that

[@AllyMonsters]

Uhh... people have hypocritical beliefs with their political views all the time. Like trying to ban gay marriage only for it to be public that you have 3 male prostitutes that you constantly call up for booty calls.

[@kelpermoon23]

Vaush moment

[@quack0i991]

@@kelpermoon23 Vaush is based and correct tho

[@awesomeblb3407]

I’m an Oregonian who lives in the west and I know for a fact that the Oregon Legislature wouldn’t let it happen

[@thelivingend127]

Probably basically the lib cities control the state

[@michealmalloy1934]

As a fellow Oregonian, Idaho kindly screw off.

[@tidmarshXC]

As an eastern Oregonian thank God for that

[@kurtpunchesthings2411]

Yea lol they would sooner send tanks into the East then ever allow this to happen

[@zgalexy834]

The absolute commitment of US states to keep getting uglier is impressive

[@ssmith65785]

Its simply that nobody wants to be near oregon

[@parkerfitzen3609]

This would be devastating to Idaho's state finances. We'd basically just be taking the counties that generate the least tax revenue while also costing the most to provide and maintain infrastructure for per capita.

[@parkerfitzen3609]

@Prey R have you actually read that report, or are you just repeating talking points from the media you follow? If you dig into that report, there are a ton of contradictory assumptions made. The report simultaneously predicts that the GDP of the areas adopted would grow by about 2% because we would be getting rid of a ton of taxes, but then in that same report, they argue that these areas wouldn't be a net tax burden on the state (only) if we were to adopt many of the same taxes as Oregon and apply them to the adopted counties. Even this report published by the Claremont Institute that YOU brought up says that these counties are basically subsidized to the tune of hundreds of millions of dollars a year by western Oregon, and the only way for them to make the accounting work to make these adopted counties not have to be subsidized by the rest of Idaho would be to impose the same kinds of taxes that these counties are trying to escape.

[@parkerfitzen3609]

@Prey R yes... Did you read my comment? Because I explicitly said that we had different taxes and that the report acknowledged that we'd have to implement some of those Oregon taxes that we don't have for those counties (like a weight-mile tax for commercial vehicles over 26,0000 lbs) to prevent those counties from becoming a net tax liability for the state.

[@danhaggerty847]

@Prey R lol taxes bad until its the reds doing it huh? Fuck these eastern Oregon shit heads already have enough conservatives moving here from California and texas ruining a once great state.

[@OnSolThree]

Common Republican L

[@zachburskey8868]

@@OnSolThree Buddy I have no idea what you're talking about. You come to Michigan and talk about Biden being great, you will be found in a gutter in Detroit.

[@The_Deutsch_Empire]

It honestly looks more like a thumbs up than a middle finger

[@jaredpyles5546]

No- after they get 62% of Oregon, it will then look like a hand giving the finger. It only currently looks like a thumbs up.

[@Jess1366-cg5qx]

Nice pfp

[@qfcbv]

Lol I see the thumbs up that's crazy

[@Acillatem23]

No - It straight up looks like a thumbs up when expanded.

[@eatsleeprunrepeat]

@@Jess1366-cg5qx It’s just the symbol for the German Air Force.