Five Surprisingly Underused Survivor Strategies

[@EzraDair]

My favorite is to keep vital information to yourself cause nobody is doing this anymore!

[@shadowsilver5113]

idk if that was intentional survivor 41 shade but i’m here for it lmao

[@freddytang2128]

"trust and information are the currencies of this game"-Hayden Moss. Its easy for speculators to say "just keep secrets to yourself" but if you're the only one not sharing any secrets, people might not trust you as much and you wont find many allies

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

That’s why Ben one of my fave winners he kept his secrets unlike some people that season

[@MikeGlasses]

@@shadowsilver5113 to be fair to season41 the activation requirements for the idols basically meant everybody would know you have an idol

[@shadowsilver5113]

@@MikeGlasses i did know that but i just wanted to make a joke about the fact that everyone knows about everyone’s idols/advantages lol

[@AA-dd3we]

Chris Underwood was speedrunning Survivor - you get voted out early and go out of bounds, then do a sequence break and glitch out to reach the end.

[@jptoony2670]

call that FTCearly

[@IdoledOut]

The real game changer

[@kellydaunis]

@@IdoledOut Please stop pretending that you don't remember Chris' name. It's not funny. It's disrespectful. Thank you.

[@Thas2]

@@kellydaunis kenzie daniels with a hot take

[@kellydaunis]

@@Thas2 I bet you thought you were funny writing that. Grow up.

[@harrdeeharr]

One I might add- intentionally waiting until right before tribal council to make a plan so there is no time for it to be discovered and countered. It’s very simple, and has probably happened before, intentionally or unintentionally, but I think Tony in WaW was the first to verbalize it as deliberate strategy.

[@weaponizedpinata]

wardog did in eoe too

[@blueblockk]

I was rewatching Redemption island recently, Rob definitely verbalized this strategy as well (at least with Philip lmao)!

[@roger_towny_jr]

Kind of a cheap shot.

[@huare7946]

Isn't that basically what heather did. Kinda funny

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

Tina did that

[@Diglett-zd1zi]

Pretty impressive that you managed to include all of Hope's confessionals in this video.

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

She had a confessional I don’t remember anyone from the permethrin except Brandon cause you know he went crazy

[@adamsbriee6330]

I still to this day can’t tell the difference between Allie and Hope

[@jump-hullkingstw7002]

@@adamsbriee6330 same

[@koshea44]

@@adamsbriee6330 Allie was Reynold’s ‘girlfriend’, (slightly heavier)and Hope was Eddie’s ‘girlfriend’. That’s about all I can remember.

[@pokechespingames9084]

@@koshea44how I saw it but i mixed up allie and the other fan (not hope)

[@Matt913]

One strategy that I've *not* seen that could work as a last-ditch gambit - pretending a REAL idol is FAKE. Imagine if Jacob in Ghost Island did everything the same, except his idol was real. Then he still told Stephanie that it was fake, everyone pours their votes onto him (which they were going to do anyway), he plays the idol, and Jacob uses his one vote and a little bit of acting to ingratiate himself with the majority alliance.

[@infinitedm5396]

There's a fun way to make this work really easily too. You get your real idol. Then find a few odds and ends that you can craft "onto" the idol. Find a moment where you need to finish working on it, let someone "close" to you, i.e. potentially an ally but working with the majority. Find you. Confide you're trying to finish building your fake idol. Tell them to promise that they won't say a word, cause you're going to blow up game and use the idol as leverage to vote someone else out. Proceed to draw attention, then laugh as you vote someone out with probably 1 or 2 votes. :)

[@devondonato4609]

That’s just called a double bluff lol, he would still need somebody like Steph to vote with him because they were splitting the vote

[@random_jae5886]

This play was actually done by AK in Australian Survivor S2. AK was on the outs of his tribe, and after his tribe won a reward which came with a clue to the idol, he tried to spread rumours of him having this idol. Then he actually found it, and upon seeing his tribemate Adam looking in the spot it was hidden at, he showed everyone his "idol" which was a flimsy fake he made, which convinced everyone he really didn't have it, and so when they followed Adam and found a massive hole in the ground (as if something had been dug up). They assumed Adam had found the idol, and so they decided to try and blindside him to get rid of the idol, and because he didn't have it, he went home. And to add another underrated tactic to the list, playing an idol for an ally you previously betrayed when you know both of you are safe to rebuild trust, as AK -who knew Adam was leaving- played his idol for his trivematr Jarrad, knowing Jarrad was in no danger of leaving, which secured his trust and begun the start of AK's alliance which would inevitably take over their tribe.

[@andyland5555]

I thought the classic "stick a rock in your pocket to make it look like you have an idol" done by strategic mastermind Rupert would have made the list, but a good list nonetheless!

[@SamuelCulper-h6s]

Love Rupert, my fav player; however, didn't he get voted out at that tribal where he pocketed teh rock?

[@koshea44]

@@SamuelCulper-h6s Right, because everybody knew Rupert was faking having an idol as a last-ditch effort to stay alive which is why the term “strategic mastermind” is being used sarcastically by the commenter. But hey I can’t say I blame him for trying it anyway since he had nothing to lose for he was clearly next on the chopping block and everyone knew it.

[@Kreethehomie]

I think Tony bluffing his idol being good through final 4 is a pretty clever move

[@freddytang2128]

But that’s a highly unique situation that don’t happen often: you need to have an idol with unique rules, and everyone knows the idol has unique rules (or people will think you’re making up the fact it has unique rules)

[@Kreethehomie]

@@freddytang2128 I literally only said it was a clever move bro

[@freddytang2128]

@@Kreethehomie yea but title of this video says underused strategies. So everything in comment section is discussing strategies that could theoretically be replicated

[@BrettMKW]

I’m so glad you mentioned Alex, his play is so underrated. Russell and Parvati not doing this let them get to F3 ultimately so it worked out for them. Shirin and Spencer did this strategy at the second tribal where they voted each other and Shirin was voted out. But a lot of people could have saved themselves if they cut their ally instead.

[@jacoblangguth5125]

the reason Tyson voted for Parvati was because he expected Russell and Parvati to do this. Most people think Russell tricked him, but Tyson has said he did it because he thought Russell’s best move was to turn on Parvati and that Parvati and Danielle would go for Russell and Russell would go for Parv. Still a horrible move, but I sort of see where he was coming from

[@BrettMKW]

@@jacoblangguth5125 If Russell and Parvati vote each other the vote still ends up being a tie. I heard what Tyson said postgame and the version I heard is he expected Danielle and Parv to do this and vote out Russell so he wanted to switch his vote to Parvati because he wanted her out more than Russell. Either way I agree it was an absolutely stupid move by Tyson. Russell should have gone at that tribal and who knows what happens in the end? Good chance Sandra still wins tho.

[@jacoblangguth5125]

@@BrettMKW I think the front runners would be Tyson, Sandra, and Jerri. I don’t think there’s much chance Rob gets to the end. Tyson was honestly in a great spot before voting himself out with Rob as a shield. Also I’ve heard that there was a potential pregame alliance of the Tocantins returnees plus Courtney who was dating Stephen at the time, so JT, Courtney, Coach, and Tyson would’ve been an interesting dynamic post merge

[@BrettMKW]

@@jacoblangguth5125 Rob probably doesn't get to the end but I do think the villains would stick together post merge. Generally speaking when there's no pre merge tribe swap you get pagonging situations because the tribes really haven't had a chance to make intertribal alliances. It's the biggest reason why I'll tell you the One World twist was not a bad twist, it just happened to have the worst possible cast to try it with. This is the first time I heard of the Tocantins pregame alliance tho. At the villains camp there was initially an alliance of FTC members Rob, Courtney, Parvati, Russell, Danielle, and Sandra. They formed a majority so they wouldn't be targeted as threats and this alliance held for at least the first tribal where they unanimously voted Randy. After Russell went and did Russell things this alliance fractured and both sides were trying to get Coach/Jerri/Tyson. Tyson had a relationship with Russell so in his mind he wanted Parvati gone because that gives him potential to work with Russell, work with Coach/Jerri (Coach/Jerri were close and so were Coach/Tyson), and still be in the majority alliance. It works out really well for his game if Parvati goes. My opinion is that with Rob/Tyson there instead of Russell/Parvati there's a good chance the villains can win one of the challenges. After Tyson left they did not win a single immunity challenge. If they win one more they're entering the merge up numbers. That kinda puts Sandra in F6 nearly by default alongside Courtney as a strong ally and I'm not sure the rest of the villains would recognize her threat level. Then again, a big reason Sandra won is because she was so anti-Russell and trying to get him out but the heroes kept ignoring her. That storyline doesn't exist anymore with Russell going out at the Tyson boot. It would certainly be interesting to see if Sandra could still craft a storyline that the heroes would respect enough to give her the win.

[@NYChica23]

@@BrettMKW Except that with this being an all returnee season, the intertribal alliances would already exist in some capacity due to preexisting relationships. Coach/Tyson were both close with JT on Tocantins, and with Courtney dating Stephen at the time, that's an easy 4 that could form across tribe lines. Plus you also have Courtney/Amanda being good friends outside the game, Sandra being close with Candice and Rupert, and of course, the obvious cross tribe duo of Jerri/Colby that can all be very solid moving parts in how the game works if Rob/Tyson/Courtney/Coach/Sandra/Jerri are at merge

[@joeshittheragman453]

I’m surprised that no one else has used Tony’s spy shack/bunker/nest although the bunker didn’t work his spy shack and spy nest did.

[@randomderpy]

Brad from season 41

[@arielhasidim8692]

It did take place in Australian survivor by Luke Tony

[@epic_jab6994]

If you get caught you’re gone 100%

[@tarbosh917]

The execution of that goes so far beyond just being able to sneak and eavesdrop. You need to find the right spot that is off the trail a bit, gather visual 'blockage' in a way that isn't obvious, and have paths to and from it that go far enough around the path so as to not draw attention from the people you want to spy on or anyone else at the beach. I think most camp layouts make this very difficult to pull off. What Tony did was clever and unique but will be tough to duplicate and often the location will be the problem.

[@devondonato4609]

Spencer and Sandra did but it really isn’t that easy, Tony went home in 34 for that reason.

[@robinmontgomery9160]

IMO the #1 underused strategy is throwing challenges after a swap. If you start on tribe A, and a tribe swap occurs so that the new tribe you're on contains, say, 4 original tribe A's and 3 original tribe B's (meaning the other new tribe contains 3 A's and 4 B's), you'd want to throw the challenge because you can ensure that the vote will be controlled by A's at your camp, but most likely not so at the other camp. Basically everyone should be competing with the other side to throw the challenges harder after any swap, but it's only happened on a few very rare occations

[@beedentist1223]

This would be a Jeff Probst's heart attack speedrun.

[@elseby]

That would definitely destroy challenges. Also it's risky because you don't know if the new people that swaps with you has an idol or not.

[@robinmontgomery9160]

@@elseby It is risky, but if you have fewer tribe B members on your tribe than the other tribe then statistically the idol is more likely to be at the other camp - plus, they still have to play the idol correctly. It's definitely not completely foolproof, but the move produces favorable odds.

[@cidyrog]

Not as favorable a you just having immunity. And an almost even split is extremely statistically unlikely lol AND you have to have total faith that no one in your og tribe would ever flip ​@@robinmontgomery9160

[@The..Boulder]

Honestly Christians on David versus Goliath was a lot better. He didn't pull out a fake idol, he just said "hold on Jeff" and then looked at everyone's faces,saw the panic in their eyes and then said "yeah I'm going to play this" Nick's was good, but Christian did it first, he did it better, and it actually saved him in the game. it was not a waste

[@ebbandflowph]

Agree, I think that was a smart move.

[@PaoAtzr]

If anything, it was Davie that saved Christian that tribal. Davie kept signalling to Christian and from that point it was only a matter of trust.

[@CanonShot]

I always thought bargaining with jury votes was very smart. Imagine an alliance of 5, going against an alliance of 6. The 5 players could go up to the player, of the 6, that is most likely to flip and say ‘if you don’t flip, and we end up in the jury, none of us will vote for you in the end and you lose.’ It gives them incentive to flip. But if they don’t flip, they won’t want all 5 of you in the jury.

[@Anushka-gr5gs]

Nick is honestly such an amazing player. People don’t understand how well he played. He was a villain who played so well he looked like a hero. I need to see him play again. His gameplay is underrated, people just find stupid excuses to hate on him. He played well.

[@rokeYouuer]

He's one of my personal favorite winners.

[@devondonato4609]

I disagree. He was clearly a very messy winner who overthinks himself and that’s why he left WAW so early. I think Erika from this season played a better game than him even

[@Anushka-gr5gs]

@@devondonato4609 when did he leave WaW early he made it so far LMAO

[@slurpi1789]

@@devondonato4609 bro didn’t leave early😭 what

[@devondonato4609]

@@Anushka-gr5gs I meant almost. He was the original vote before the poker alliance was pinned as the biggest threats, it’s why Amber votes him. A consistent reason is he sleeps around all day and does nothing

[@popmans9999]

I have another one. Following previous strategies for Challenges that already worked. I was baffled that not everybody was not changing their grips in the last Inmunity Challenge. Have you really watched Survivor?

[@AlexE5250]

There was a challenge a few weeks ago where Evvie knew the puzzle solution right away. Reminded me of the time Spencer memorized the five piece puzzle

[@IdoledOut]

No surprise that the players who were alternating grips between rounds (Danny and Ricard, IIRC) were the last ones standing in the challenge

[@popmans9999]

@@AlexE5250 In all honesty that required some investigaton. Evvie need it to know the way pieces were asambled then figure it out and practice.

[@reginamachamer821]

"a creeping vampire joke" is by far the most hilarious description I've ever heard for Nick 😂

[@TheOrionKnight]

Consider this: The idea of splitting the vote was thought up in Cook Islands. Alex found a way to beat it the very next season under the right circumstances. The majority alliance was concerned Alex may have found an idol without a clue. (Something unheard of at the time). Imagine how crazy it would have been if he actually had an idol for the following round. Super underrated player and very underrated post-merge.

[@hecates_apprentice]

I can't believe you didn't mention big brain strategies only top tier legends like Misty and Val have pulled off: Convincing your tribe you have an idol, or in Val's case, two idols, or in Misty's case, an idol you can play after the votes are read, both scenarios force the other parties to flush them. Such 500IQ-itiveness.

[@Shutterbun4]

The "intentional fake idol play" is something I've mentally toyed with while watching the show. But not for yourself. Make a convincing fake idol (with paperwork pilfered from a real idol) and promise to "protect" a strong player with whom you have a tenuous alliance. Convince them to do some "threat level management" by losing an immunity challenge, with the knowledge that you will "protect them" with your idol. That way, they get to manage their threat level, remain on the island, and rest assured that someone has their back. You then play the fake idol for them, and are shocked, SHOCKED when Jeff reveals it to be a fake. They go to the jury, but they can't blame you, because you were just as duped as they were! So your jury vote from them is...maybe intact?

[@koshea44]

@@Shutterbun4 Damn that’s actually a pretty freaking brilliant plan if you can convince the person to trust you enough come time for the immunity challenge……especially nowadays in the modern era of survivor. I feel like this would definitely have been successful if played out in a season between somewhere like 20-30 but nowadays the players are much less likely to put that much faith in the hands of a quasi-alliance member to the point where they give up their shot at immunity, regardless of the threat level it may add. But overall it’s a very interesting idea and wish we saw it or will see it play out in similar fashion

[@Shutterbun4]

@@koshea44 I've since realized this was kind of done in Season 17 Gabon, but it was mostly played for laughs and we were all in on the joke the whole time, which was kind of unsatisfying. (only difference is the fake was given ahead of time, instead of played for someone)

[@kristentheactuallpc5540]

Literally so true about the edit of Nick on WAW. The disrespect.

[@ashen_roses]

Rachel kind of pulled a Nick with her shot in the dark, probably more successfully

[@Entertainzor]

I have actually pointed out the flaw in that Seven Samurai cover to people. Nobody cared. Now, finally, a kindred spirit who 1) Loves classic cinema, and 2) Can count.

[@IdoledOut]

It's possibly my coldest take ever, but Kurosawa is the greatest director of all time in my opinion

[@youngtax7604]

Okay how about this strategy, make a fake idol, put it in your bag, have someone who you trust but not a lot of people know how close you are be a lone with someone else to check your bag and find your fake idol

[@graysonthomas1433]

Lol we could retitle this “Idoled Out Adam Gentry Hatred Explained”

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

I’m glad you brought up these moves I always bring up the voting for the other spli vote person

[@realityretrospectiveyt]

To add to the Victoria move, the best use of this was after Andy was voted out of AU Champions vs. Contenders II. He openly proclaimed that David had an idol, even though he actually had no clue if he had one but wanted to put a target on his back. Well, turns out David did have an idol…

[@freddytang2128]

lmao its hard to think of a more annoying, overconfident, and slimy player than Andy

[@realityretrospectiveyt]

@@freddytang2128 can’t wait to see him play alongside the queen 👑 Sassy SDT in Blood vs. Water next year! 🇦🇺

[@freddytang2128]

@@realityretrospectiveyt wait wait what?? Andy is back in that season? I know Sandra is, but havent heard which Aussie players are in that season

[@IdoledOut]

Yes! I originally had a line in the video about this very moment, but ended up cutting it. One of the many, many great moments in CvC2.

[@realityretrospectiveyt]

@@IdoledOut I think another great move worth highlighting is Mat and David’s relationship in All-Stars. AU is quickly evolving from revolving around mateship/physical prowess to creating some unique strategies.

[@ashleywei9815]

I think a move that isn't talked about (and also not confirmed this was the intention but would be really smart if it was) was when Jeremy in 31 told kieth to have kieth and kelly both vote with him to get out spencer. I don't think he ever had the intention to actually vote out spencer, but it was just in case Kelly or kieth had an idol and one of the three had to be voted out. Jeremy knew he would be a possible vote, so he made sure that no matter what, no votes would go on him that vote. Subtle but genius.

[@ASG-nm4cz]

I think the fake play to test reactions is a sound strategy but the "let everyone see you get a fake idol" part is not. It eliminates any of the surprise of you playing the idol to try to gage reaction.

[@XanderMatthews-nv9zf]

Nick faking having 2 idols was so dumb, it made his closest ally’s turn on him out of fear of him idoling his way to the end Never fake an idol, it literally never works 99% of the time

[@bradleyberdan5154]

i’m glad candice is finally getting the recognition she deserves as a hero

[@HiMom1311]

How about Natalie’s strat about lying about her vote/“voting accidentally”

[@siwap3809]

which Natalie? there's like 7

[@Kreethehomie]

@@siwap3809 from Season 29

[@siwap3809]

@@Kreethehomie oh yeah, i remember now

[@ebbandflowph]

@@siwap3809 Anderson from San Juan Del Sur

[@junsong9581]

The thing about that is it’s extremely based on circumstance. The only person who believed her was Jon, jac and Missy didn’t believe anything about it from what I remember

[@lilmac808]

Your voice is oddly soothing lol best part of my Sundays

[@kelseyweivoda9097]

Omg the shade towards Candice (from Raro tribe) gets me every time!

[@varisrevolver4061]

She is quite heroic, I mean, mutinying twice on 2 separate seasons, how couldn't she be seen as a hero 😂😂😂😂😂

[@kharihammon9784]

one underused strategy is something similar to what jeremy did in sc. he suspected keith had a idol so he told him he’s willing to vote spencer to give them the impression that he knows about the idol n that in case it would b played then he won’t necessarily b the target. small but useful.

[@gregthomson1064]

Similar to playing a fake idol, I would like to see someone give away individual immunity only to play an idol on yourself to test the loyalty of your alliance. That’s basically like giving away an idol to save an ally, but with an extra step.

[@olivermensinger6022]

That is something I would like to do.

[@starskunk]

The only catch with this plan is if someone knows you have the Hidden Idol and an Idol Nullifier is possibly in play, as in that case you give up guaranteed immunity for an immunity that could possibly be blocked.

[@stuntzii]

survivor is a show i dont like to watch but love to listen being discussed . great great videos cant stop watching them

[@edogthe4387]

Video idea is the best challenges so the most iconic, fun to watch and most fair challenges in survivor history(aka opposite of the lame challenges video)

[@sandyap]

Candice being a hero for mutinied is still one of my favorite survivor lore lol

[@parkzy2920]

I'm surprised throwing individual immunity challenges isn't brought up more in Survivor tbh

[@sapnupua5]

because jeff goes out of his way to screw over successful throwers afterwards, at least he did in most seasons it happened

[@NYChica23]

For real...Tina proved just how strategic of a player she is when she did that at the first individual immunity. She knew the Kucha 5 were originally planning to vote for Keith, and because deadlocks back then were determined by previous votes, Keith has 5 previous votes to Varner's 2, so he goes and puts the Ogakor 5 down in the numbers. So by throwing the immunity challenge to Keith, the Kucha alliance ends up putting all 5 votes on Colby, who didn't have any up to that point, so he ends up being safe and Varner goes in the tiebreaker

[@myperspectiveisimnotblind]

01:00 HOLDING YOUR JURY VOTE HOSTAGE Karla of 43 must have watched this video and it must have really resonated with her. She used this strategy while inside the game AND while in Ponderosa. The vindictive player will forever be remembered for this strategy. #poisoningthejurytime ;)

[@MrBen51309]

I think leveraging your jury vote probably happens a fair bit but rarely makes the air because it's not all that consequential. Vytas did with Tyson but it made no difference, so did Monica from S19 but Russell likely would've lost anyway. Here's an interesting interview where Skupin accuses Malcolm of making a severe threat of that nature. Obviously Skupin isn't a trustworthy source but I'd totally understand the editors not wanting to tarnish the hero edit that Malcolm got in Philippines. kzbin.info/www/bejne/rYjdkq18brekd5I

[@garrettsears8437]

I definitely agree with you on Danni's points. A solidly good game somewhat undersold by this legend that isn't that big a piece of it.

[@terrancebrown87]

1:30 perfect editing even with the little things!

[@realjon4680]

Now do unsurprisingly underused survivor strategies

[@bobjoe109]

How about asking to be voted out first even though you really don't want to be voted out? I think I've only seen that one once haha

[@IdoledOut]

Alphabet strategy

[@MaximilliansHammer]

@@bobjoe109 Fast forward to S46, and Q thinking.......hmmm, I think I can work with that.

[@davidkostersspaceradio]

I think Alex’s comment to Dreams about how he shouldn’t represent young kids is perfectly warranted

[@Rage2day]

Dr. Sean’s alphabet voting strategy.

[@kellydaunis]

That's the dumbest strategy ever. I'm glad it has never been reused.

[@Rage2day]

@@kellydaunis 🥴

[@seanberrodin801]

You’d think you couldn’t flandernize real people but nick can tell you differently. The Kevin Malone of survivor

[@NotHaydenMoss]

Why the, WHY, THE SLANDER

[@HenryIsSingle]

hi chip

[@IdoledOut]

Don't tell me you don't like it 😉

[@flipevent]

Adam's gambit, in another universe, WOULD'VE worked. Adam was by far Yul's counterpart in the opposing alliance, and had he made it to final 3, was easily winning. All he needed was 1-2 immunities to get there. And, for Adam's end of the deal, Yul still had a high shot of winning anyway regardless of said deal. Ozzy just really was THAT dominant this season. If he was indeed thinking that far ahead, it was a masterful play by him that just didn't go his way at the end. Still, more people SHOULD be using it. Yul was not the smart one here by voting Jonathan to save Adam. Adam was the smart one here by offering a relatively easy option for him for a WHOLE lot more wiggle room at the end.

[@jackoscar11]

I LOVE THIS CHANNEL

[@eegplante8898]

one thing i wish we saw was using the shot in the dark to essentially abstain from voting to force a tie which shan couldve done to not burn the extra vote a few episodes back

[@mallowout]

Most underrated strategy you can employ is stating to your tribe that you have a crush on someone from the opposing tribe This will give the impression that you can rope said person in come a team swap/merge, show that you have a heart of gold, and will most certainly not make you look desperate on TV

[@brokenpikachu9491]

Or give the impression that you’ll flip on them

[@rachexl]

asking people to hold their advantages/idols

[@Jonathan_Burton]

This is an interesting one. It didn't work for JD, but it helped Aurora with her Extra Vote

[@corksauls9403]

You seriously think his name is Chip? How can you call yourself a survivor fan and not remember his name is Clark?!

[@sillykyle17]

I thought it was Kevin

[@nathansnyder9455]

@@sillykyle17 naw it was Carter. That’s my favourite season so I should know

[@ethanhawke8409]

I'm pretty sure his name is Chester, I mean his the winner of Survivor Edge of Extinction, there's no way I could forget the name of the winner.

[@shesjustafrienduhhafriend8655]

That reminds of total drama Lindsey called the host Chris chip lol

[@kellydaunis]

That's not funny.

[@smallss7197]

Idk why but I love Underwoods game when he did play after he came back

[@ArcanineEspeon]

3:56 So, do y'all think Rachel Lamont watches Idoled Out, or what?

[@NetSraC1306]

Feels like people are heavily sleeping on rupert, using putting a rock in his pocket, subtly showing the bulge to everyone in the camp to make the others think he found an idol

[@Emma-mr4fw]

I love this video topic! keep talking about different strategies pls!

[@ashlynu8982]

Don’t we love spending every episode dunking on Chris, like my family has been doing for years

[@taylorshank1638]

I came to say the Shamar and Hope talk Honestly probably the shining moment of that tribe pre-swap

[@jetconway5995]

Do you think shan telling ricard he had her vote was out of spite or just out of respect?

[@IdoledOut]

Shan seemed pretty upset in the moment, but is also very much a "game respects game" kind of player. So probably a bit of both. Her comment to Deshawn though... that was all salt 😂

[@RayToffer]

"Thanks Chip!" 💀

[@MikeGlasses]

Underused strategy tank the loves ones visit if you’re competing with your loved one and just chat with them for the challenge, used by Cochran.

[@JohnnyHikesSW]

If I had to guess why holding your jury vote hostage isn’t a more common move, it’s probably heavily discouraged by production

[@jackoscar11]

what about when tony brings out the immunity idol, walks over to jeff and reads everyone's body language before deciding who to play it for, its like what nick did but smarter

[@terrancebrown87]

Loving these videos!!!!

[@TheNibiru720]

10:47 Sierra pops up randomly. I think you thought it was Danni maybe???

[@ottokaare5925]

No did you like hear what he said

[@paulmcdonald3431]

Don't know if this really qualifies, but I'm throwing it out there... Why don't more people pull a Natalie Anderson San Juan del Sur move and, before they go to play an idol for someone else, turn around and ask a player if they voted the way she told them to. It's the essence of badass: in front of the jury, you show that you are pulling all the strings in the tribe, and you reduce another player to nothing more than your puppet. I realize the circumstances have to be just right; and if everyone started doing it, players would quickly learn that the best thing to do is not respond at all. But if it's only used sparingly, I think most players would instinctively answer with the truth - and not realize they have lost the entire jury's respect until the play is over.

[@elseby]

What I don't get is why whenever in a challenge the people that arrive first at the puzzle pieces they just ignore them and start cheering the team on. I mean I get for morale but if you just turn around and start looking at the pieces you're basically giving yourself a headstart while the rest of the team is reaching the mat.

[@KillerPenguin-bp4el]

1:38: Candice??? From Raro Tribe???

[@Bruteel]

The Fake idol is the one with Nick is what I was thinking of the most the other day of things underutilized.

[@fendiefendie]

Certain someone on S42 definitely studied this video!

[@jeromegoh6293]

I still think someone should give away thier immunity and then play thier idol on themself

[@iMaDeMoN2012]

Parvati, especially when she laughs, looks just like Barrel, one of the trick-or-treaters working for Oogie Boogie in Tim Burton's the Nightmare Before Christmas.

[@laurielenig9939]

HANDSOME man Penner!!

[@MrWill8923]

Also everyone goes telling people they have idols now. They think it will advance an alliance, but it almost always seems to ruin the secret.

[@giorgiodechambre6798]

Yup - God-Level Idol!!! So True.....

[@samkelomambisa1897]

The #1 strategy has been used a number of times. Am I missing something? I thought it was pretty standard if the vote is between you and someone else, you put your vote on them. They put theirs on you. No hard feelings.

[@WyattS2]

Awesome video!

[@trentgawd4292]

One play I liked on HvHvH was Devon’s vote for Mike in final 5. Devon realized there was a chance of Ben having another idol, so knowing Chrissy Ryan and Mike were voting Ben, he threw his vote onto Mike to force a tie between him and Mike, should Ben play an idol. Then on the revote, Mike was voted out. This play probably would’ve won Devon the game if it weren’t for the final 4 fire twist

[@kee.ko1k]

would you go on survival

[@Whistler4u]

Jeff never asks anymore but I think "giving up immunity" could work in certain scenarios. Instead of playing an idol for someone and to create chaos at tribal.

[@tarbosh917]

Well t's just really dumb to do so -- and it's clear from this season that they've really tried to go with the 'cut a ton of things that take a couple seconds, fill that time with other things' and it's great. I know a lot of long time viewers maybe feel the comfort of some small things like that to tie in the history of the show, but it's for the best that unless it becomes a proactive consideration by the players it won't come up.

[@Whistler4u]

@@tarbosh917 He hasn't it been saying it for years now, not just this season. And yeah, mostly it's a dumb thing to do but there could be circumstances where it might create some chaos.

[@paulmcdonald3431]

@@Whistler4u (If anyone has the time and patience to read to my windbag rant...) That exact move would have won Survivor China for Amanda. Final five: the four Fei Longs (Todd, Amanda, Courtney and Denise) and last Zhan Hu Peih-Gee. Amanda held the Immunity Idol. Pre-tribal, she tells Peih-Gee in private she will give her the idol if she votes for Todd (Certain-boot PG just got handed a life line. And she'd love to be rid of Todd. PG would jump at this). At the end of TC, Amanda wraps her necklace around PG's neck. This was pre-"live tribals". Amanda sits down, and the voting starts in complete silence (under Jeff's watchful eye). Forced to make up their own minds for the first time in the game, what would Denise and Courtney do? Almost certainly vote for each other - both thought that person was at the bottom of the alliance and had to go. So that's two votes Todd, one vote Courtney, one vote Denise. What does Todd do? Worse case scenario, votes for Amanda out of spite and assures his own defeat. More likely, he votes strategically and writes down Denise. It's a tie, two Todd two Denise. Revote, but this time Todd and Denise remain seated. Amanda and PG stick with their guns, and the flight attendant walks down the path. You'll recall Amanda won the next immunity again (quite handily, in fact. PG would not have been a serious threat). Amanda would have no trouble convincing C and D to boot PG this time ("It's a mostly Zhan Hu jury. PG could actually win unanimously"). So there you have it: the least impressive final three in Survivor's early history. We have to assume Amanda will bomb FTC because, well she's Amanda. But will the jury take Courtney and Denise any more seriously? Will Amanda look a bit LESS of a complete mess without the brilliant Todd talking circles around her and winning over the jury? It will come down to the jury disliking all three FTC performances and being forced to vote strictly on their games - and in that case, I'm sure |Amanda would take it.

[@rokeYouuer]

In my opinion, there is one specific case where giving up immunity is the right call: when you, or the person you're giving it to have an idol. "Timmy won immunity, so we need to vote for Tommy, but we think Tommy has a hidden immunity idol, so we should split the vote between Tommy and Tony - what the heck! Timmy give up immunity for Tommy? Forget the split vote, everyone vote for Timmy!" Then the idol is played on Timmy, and Timmy and Tommy decide who's going home.

[@NYChica23]

@@tarbosh917 It worked extremely well for Jenna at final 6...she didn't trust that Rob and Matt would stick to their deal with her and Heidi and vote out swing vote Christy, so she decides to give Heidi her immunity at tribal to force Rob and Matt's hand, and it paid off

[@feasible]

"A guy in a polo being a total dick.. now I've seen everything." rofl

[@chickenchicken9072]

Another one would have to be voting someone out by “accident.” famously utilized by Natalie Anderson

[@devondonato4609]

I actually thought it was smart of danni to throw the old schoolers under the bus in front of Ben lol, it was a last ditch effort to save herself and align with the low profile players. Also she technically did pull the strings behind rafe

[@reddreobri1621]

LOL that Candice shade 😅😂😂

[@tmrevenge]

Don't take survivor personally... Shantel should keep that in mind especially after the coments about the "song in her head" when ready to back stab someone

[@Hope-gi5ls]

love seeing some Hope content.. even if it could really never be positive lmao

[@SeyhawksNow]

I think it's funny how we talk about Post Snuff dialog after Shan got voted out. Her calling DeShawn a snake doesn't even feel like she's trying to sink his game. She just hates him for not obeying her.

[@j.b.denamiel3348]

Great Video Idea!

[@IdoledOut]

Thank you!

[@bluepower1177]

Why don’t I remember Nick doing that?! Fucking genius move

[@Survive33]

1:50 I finally get the heroic part 😂

[@stevea6494]

Australian Survivor is way better than the American version. People can see for themselves, it’s now available on Paramount Plus. The contestants are way more likable and they actually have to fight and struggle. Plus the challenges are so inventive and refreshing. It feels like the American one just uses the same ones over and over again.

[@Zay6005]

6:47 come on now, you know his name… not gay but mans was PACKIN 😂💀

[@ryanjohansson8950]

I feel really bad for Gavin. He got completely shafted by the Edge of Extinction twist in every possible way. Imagine getting 4 votes at FTC but still losing to a guy voted out third that got to skip over half the game and instead spend that time hanging out with the people that are going to vote for the winner. Even worse when Gavin was never on the Edge of Extinction and the jury are also telling Chris exactly what to do in order to get their votes. That’s just so messed up.

[@TazzDeMazz]

I like the old school survivor strats. ^^

[@wades9327]

I don't know why people, when they have clue and find the idol, don't wrap up a fake idol in the same spot with the same wrap and find a way to get the real clue to the fake idol to their biggest opponent.

[@kinggogeta7763]

you think shan was doing the same to Ricard?

[@daverussell457]

13:59 - That's why I don't wear polo shirts.

[@chrisoneal2718]

How about a strategy when you think you will be voted out and are going to tie with someone, so you convince one person of the other alliance to vote for a third party? For instance, instead of getting a 5-5 tie, you convince someone to go rogue and so the vote is 5-4-1, sending the other person home? I can’t think of an example where this was done, but it could be surprisingly effective.

[@NYChica23]

Does a 3-2-1 split at final 6 count as a situation to avoid a tie vote and send your target out? If so, Cirie did that on her first season

[@SilkBC74]

That happened to Boston Rob. Someone (Parvati?) convinced Tyson to change his vote, making him think he was protecting Boston Rob and ended causing Boston Rob to go home.

[@NYChica23]

@@SilkBC74 That's not how it happened at all...Russell approached Tyson with a plan that they'd both vote Parvati out at the double tribal and convinced him to flip his vote from Russell to Parvati, but what ended up happening was that Russell played his idol on Parvati, so Tyson ended up blindsiding himself out of the game. Plus Rob was immune the round you're referring to, so he wouldn't have gone home regardless of what Tyson did

[@alexandria3583]

seems like more than one person has overestimated their bond with candice

[@Jonathan_Burton]

Out of the 5 strategies, using your jury vote as leverage is a good one, as this did buy Adam some time. Spencer from Cambodia used this in a different way to get Jeremy to keep him at f4. Nick's fake idol was dangerous for multiple reasons. He not only made himself a target (when ppl know you have a regular idol they flush it, although this would be interesting with a super idol and Davie thought he had two which makes him near untouchable), it allows for everyone to come together and target Nick (of which Davie tries to do) but also encourages a split vote on Nick's closest ally as if Nick plays his idol, then someone else has to get votes and I doubt they wanted Nick to decide who goes. Also, let's say Nick doesn't have an idol and fails to find it, then he makes himself a target for no reason. Victoria's is interesting. I don't like it because what if every jury member was to say who they're voting for? Then all of a sudden you could know the jury vote before it even happens. Even Shan annoyed me when she makes it clear that she isn't annoyed with Ricard even after he flipped on her, yet Victoria was when Gavin voted the wrong way. Alex's was very smart. Whilst it bought him one round, this could be an incredibly smart thing to do. The problem is that usually the targets don't know that the vote is on them in a split vote and still vote according to plan or believe that they can pull a flip. Whilst Alex and Mookie knew they were on the bottom, a lot of others don't and as you said could've made it further in the game. Danni's idk about. It seems okay, but the cameramen and producers shouldn't be telling others her strategy anyway. I think this one I rate the lowest bcus if the producers are gonna share your strategy, they may as well tell their favourite to start looking for an idol

[@huare7946]

But spencer basically put the final nail in the coffin with this move though. Even if it does work you gotta be careful how you present it

[@roger_towny_jr]

Actually, Spencer's move ultimately worked against him hardcore. In a nutshell, he basically told the entire jury he would have the power to influence all of their decisions. And now we're shocked none of them want to vote for him to win? It also was just really condescending, and I'm not in any way convinced it was needed at all. I'm pretty sure Tasha and Jeremy were choosing to vote out Wentworth anyway.

[@Jonathan_Burton]

Im not trying to say Spencer used the strategy well, I'm saying it worked to get him to the final 3

[@roger_towny_jr]

@@Jonathan_Burton Yeah, but he burned any respect the jury had for him in the process. It was a bad move.

[@4Tom4lepus4]

"but the cameramen and producers shouldn't be telling others her strategy anyway." But they do. And if they don't, then Jeff asks questions that should make people think "Hm?". So acting clueless to production might be a good move