If Rangers Saw You Make Their Character Sheet in Dungeons and Dragons

Wait...your telling me their are people who ACTUALLY play rangers??
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#dnd #dungeonsanddragons #rangers

[@SgtLogOfWood]

Now I want to hug the ranger and play him to give him comfort.

[@RaethFennec]

Oh no. Just wait until you play with one, though. :P

[@kallamigmarre6137]

Same! The next one’s a ranger for sure

[@abydosianchulac2]

Oh, I thought that's what bards are for.

[@voilav2890]

Yeap, ranger next 😂

[@ryynerwicked2762]

Play with him.... that will be far more effective lol

[@sebasjexoxo6728]

Its so sad to see him turn from a hyper person to a sad silent person.

[@elliedereyna5014]

Oh my god it's the BBEG's tragic backstory

[@sebasjexoxo6728]

@@elliedereyna5014 oh shit i did not think of that one🤣

[@jaega4247]

Like watching all the other Ranger classes going from hyped to realizing they're just about to become yet another Gloomstalker.

[@Joyexer]

I felt that.

[@Victor-km6jm]

Yeah. Fantastic acting for a 3 minute skit.

[@camiloquinayasvarela7337]

The funny thing after seeing this, is that a friend of mine made a ranger and she was God. Her lowest stat was a 15. She wiped the floor with all of us, a ranger. I was way to dumbfounded to react when that happened

[@yilvoxe4017]

We rolled stats for a Ravnica campaign and I made a ranger with no stat below 14, two 18s. At level 1. "Ranger carry" is a joke at our table to this day.

[@danzansandeev6033]

@@yilvoxe4017 you know with stats this high you could have made ranger/barbarian hybrid and call him Garruk)

[@Ledecral]

In the campaign me and my friends are currently doing, I watched a ranger practically solo a boss that killed my paladin. Any class can be scary if built right.

[@JainZar1]

DnD was always stats dependent, I once rolled a 16 Str, 16 Dex, 14 Con, 12 Int, 18 Wis, 16 Cha statline. It was a forgone conclusion, that I went Woodelf monk...

[@andreymontag]

Gloomstalker breaks the damage curve and heals on top tho

[@lockwoan01]

The Ranger is the Underestimated and Underappreciated class. It can do quite a lot. 1. Tank Duty - With a d10 hit dice, proficiency in Medium Armor and Shields, a Ranger with 14 Dexterity in Half-Plate has 17 AC - add on a shield for 19 AC. With a 14 Constitution, it tends to have the same hp as a fighter or paladin of the same level. It's also proficient in all weaponry. 2. Skill Monkey - Excluding Race and Feats, a Ranger can start off with 5 skills - 2 from background, 3 from the class. 3. Extra Attack - like all Martial sorts. Oh, and Hunter's Mark can amp up the damage. 4. Extra Fighter - At high enough levels, Rangers can summon additional allies to assist in combat. 5. Combat Medic - Goodberry and Cure Wounds. Overall, lots of mileage. Only issues might be Intelligence and Charisma, as they aren't needed too much (probably make Intelligence a 10 and make Charisma an 8, unless one rolled very well with stats).

[@nevermind9854]

oh and the beast master ability!

[@lockwoan01]

@@nevermind9854 Well, Tasha's did improve both the base Ranger, and the Beastmaster itself - and with the spells Summon Beast, and later, Summon Fey, any Ranger could fill the Beast Master vibe.

[@sekira4516]

@@lockwoan01 honestly Tasha's gave Ranger a more efficient Hunter's Mark. dont need to burn a spell-slot for a spell that is already essentially replaced by a class feature that could instead be a support or damage spell like say Flame Arrows, Alarm to let the party safely long rest in the field, or an extra Cure Wounds. at this stage Ranger gets more mileage by *not* taking Hunter's Mark anymore XD

[@lockwoan01]

@@sekira4516 Not really - Favored Foe does an extra 1d4 damage per turn (increasing to d6 at 6th level and d8 at 14). Hunter's Mark, on the other hand, does an extra 1d6 for each attack - Main, Extra, and Bonus - or an extra 3d6 for a 5th level ranger that likes to engage in 2-weapon fighting. 3d6 is better than 1d4, 1d6 or 1d8.

[@otakuragenation7853]

@@lockwoan01 Id respond saying while yes its not the greatest damage in the world, its free bonus damage that doesnt consume your spells which can be used for a variety of other beneficial support spells the ranger can utalize. Also in my personal opinion Hunter's Mark is a trap for rangers because sure an extra d6 of damage is awesome on every attack, so is being able to use Entangle to hold a group of enemies in place, Fog Cloud to stop enemy archers/spellcasters (most good cc spells require LoS so reducing that risk is amazing, even most AoE's require a visual point). Its better to view Hunters Mark as a tracking ability when facing enemies that like to go invisible... or let them 'escape' to track back to a base or something similar that also helps with dealing damage on an important enemy. At least thats my opinion on it

[@emaank7745]

I am a sucker for classes that are neither too strong nor too weak, and Ranger really hits the spot sometimes. Sure, the other classes might be more powerful, but sometimes, you don't need to be powerful in order to be interesting. I remember creating a Shadar'Kai Slayer Ranger and while it WAS an edgelord, I was really into his backstory, too bad the campaign never took off, but I will surely use him again in the future.

[@WardNightstone]

shadar Kai are a fun elf variant tons of backstory potential just by picking them you can do things liek give them crazy eye colors and no one questions it AND they can teleport making them a nightmare to fight no matter what class you pick

[@gabescrazy5504]

slayer and ranger is a pretty good mix, when a favoured enemy appears and you have so much advantage is great

[@camharkness]

Rangers are better for rp, which is supposed to he a huge part of dnd that a lot of people skip because they just wanna deal 18394739373 damage per attack.

[@hbsavage0387]

@@camharkness all classes are good for rp it’s just that the ranger on average is a worse rogue, Druid, and fighter all lumped together it doesn’t feel good to play to me because it feels like they took the leftovers of those 3 classes and gave them to ranger.

[@intheftin2861]

I prefer rp as an assassin fighter not for money, but for intimidation skills for my necklace, want one? O_@

[@gamemasteranthony2756]

As someone who likes playing classes that can do more than one thing (pretty much anything called a "half-caster" nowadays), I am with the others who are surprised the Ranger doesn't get more love. These classes can be exceptionally useful, especially in campaigns requiring pathfinding or tracking. Heck, I have an Azorius Ranger I use for a "stock character" if needed.

[@shawnwolf5961]

Ranger got a lot of hate because mechanically, there's nothing they can do that a fighter can't--outside of favored terrain and enemies, and the terrain, the biggest feature of a ranger in the first place, is unlikely to ever even come into play. That said, Tasha's added quite a bit mechanically to rangers, so the old memes about them just don't really fit anymore, imo.

[@JadeFalcon07]

The new options in Tasha's raise the stock of the ranger outside those scenarios too. Expertise in perception all the time is useful for a dungeon crawl (nevermind that other classes get that option too.)

[@firekirby123]

I think the biggest thing people typically overlook is the fact that Rangers are actually full martial classes, meaning they have access to all those bread and butter weapons like Mauls and Greatswords, not just Rapiers and Longbows. From my experience, the ideal ranger is more of a switch-fighter/support, able to rotate into & out of combat roles as circumstances change. But people hear "Ranger" and think it means they're one-trick, ranged only characters, and thereby go in with a preconceived notion of the class, and build them poorly as a result, blaming the class when they realize other classes can do "their one job" better than them.

[@TenebiCenturion]

I've yet to play a ranger (but have plans to) and I honestly dont get the hate for rangers. If anything, I can understand that beast master feels a bit weak in the sense of that you have to sacrifice one of your attacks to have your beast attack instead. Why dont the pet get their own place in the turnorder and attacks? (some would say it's OP, but I dont see a problem with it.) As for the favored enemy/terrain, it's fricking amazing, especially if you work on it with your DM. "Well what if I choose to be able to have favored terrain as Tundra and there's no Tundra?" Stuff like that, sure, but talk to your DM. Either they'll add something in, or if they aint planning to use such areas, then ask if you can change to a different terrain.

[@vergilnoivern8024]

Ranger is actually my preferred class to play. So much so that my DM told me I had to play something different. Usually do a sneak/ambush build for my ranger, and always the team's tracker.

[@silverheart7091]

It makes me so happy scrolling through the comments and seeing everyone giving love to the ranger. The ranger was the first charecter I truly played, and will always have a special spot in my heart.

[@gabriellewis9560]

Same.

[@epicwolfie1887]

Same

[@mattcurnell2545]

their is plenty to love

[@Myusollo]

When I played a ranger, I made her a bounty hunter of sorts. All favored enemies were types of humanoids, making me the language guru at the table. Her subclass was hunter, and I built her to be able to deal improved damage to individual targets. Even using pre-Xanathar or Tasha rules, she was a great character.

[@eliabuoncompagni1899]

My ranger too, was a bounty hunter, rangers are perfectly fit for this role. But I still used the Tasha rules and the Horizon Walker subclass from Xanathar, or he would have been basically a warrior with a crossbow

[@MinecraftTestSquad]

The more I see memes of ranger, the more determined I am to go and play a ranger if my current character dies in this campaign. It's a dragon heavy campaign so I feel like it could work fairly well.

[@wynnadorno6132]

That’s actually kinda perfect for some of the Hunter’s niche features

[@jamesfreeman3617]

Not to mention the new dragon themed ranger subclass.

[@NightWing1800]

Rangers can be insanely powerful. You can burn all your spellslots on goodberry before you sleep, get you spell slots back, and then basically have better and more flexible potions of healing. Fog Cloud can completely shut down ranged attackers and a lot of spells and if youre a melee attacker you can use blindsight. Or use crossbow expert and sharpshooter with the archery fighting style to completely out DPS the rest of the table. Base Ranger is powerful even without doing cheesey things.

[@TheArtisticGamer7]

Fizbans has a ranger subclass that gives you a pet drake. So that would be perfect if not all the dragons are bad or if maybe you wanted to do a nature vs nurture thing. Otherwise the monster slayer one would be good for targeting dragons and only dragons. Could also go gloom stalker or swarm keeper or primal beast master for a ranger thats properly optimized and not all over the place (classic rangers faulty). Ranger can be LOADS of fun. And because it's Dex&Wis based, you can MULTICLASS in like damn near EVERYTHING. At least like half the classes are Dex or Wis based so it makes multiclassing with ranger pretty easy.

[@JakinShaw]

I recommend the Horizon Walker Ranger! It's personally my favorite subclass of Ranger. BUT if it's a dragon themed campaign... the new Drakewarden Ranger from Fizban's seems like a fun choice!

[@factaviusthebakinggamer9779]

I recently played a gloomstalker centaur ranger, and had a blast playing him, especially given I was essentially invisible in darkness to creatures with darkvision, so sneaking up to a creature and just picking them up/grappling them was hilarious.

[@theoverseer9153]

Indeed, I have some serious fun with the gloomstalker class, xanathar's guide really added some depth to the class, combine it with the favored terrain being underdark and you got an absolute unit for a dungeon delver

[@Sage2000]

I feel that the gloomstalker is just broken. Who did you feel?

[@zendereidam3603]

Ok so I had a gloomsgalker too. He was a star genasi and his name was Joey Conway. He has now become so iconic that he has started in 4 different campaigns. He is a legend among mortals

[@factaviusthebakinggamer9779]

@@Sage2000 honestly I feel in a raw module, set in one terrain, (like toa) gloom stalker will rock a dms world, but the game I played him in we alternate between urban, jungle, and mountain (my favored terrain being jungle) and was heavily homebrewed with some monsters having true sight, or even just abilities to create light sources (such as powder monkeys that would set a 5 foot cube ablaze). So I felt like it was pretty well balanced, first round I was basically on top of the world, but after then I had to be alot more careful, that said the party was at lvl 3 so it may be different at higher lvls.

[@firekirby123]

@@factaviusthebakinggamer9779 Pretty much this. There's nothing wrong with characters feeling powerful, but their strength can be mitigated with planning from the DM to ensure those characters don't wind up trivializing fights actually meant to be threatening or worse.

[@Frostything]

As someone new to D&D, I immediately had an idea for a ranger class. However, I've ended up as the to-be DM. One day, my sad ranger friend.. one day.

[@radiclestheepic6950]

I feel for you brother, same thing happened to me. the good thing is that you can make as many self inserts or characters you love in the campaign as the DM. I ended up makeing him for fun, a horizon walker with a level or 2 in rogue and an emphasis on sneaking /close-range combat. and then I decided to make him the big bad so I could make him super busted and awesome.

[@BeastnodeG]

update one year later?

[@xavierochoa6935]

Update please, you the DM now?

[@ARKOTI]

one year update?

[@drus9664]

Everyone wants an update, go for it

[@samuellillge9319]

I was fully expecting this to be two minutes of thirty seconds of an empty character sheet slowly collecting dust and cobwebs.

[@Blu_Moon_Owl]

This just hurts… Ranger is the first i class I played through a whole campaign, all the way to LEVEL 20! Rangers are loved and my is a horizon walker ranger so he can teleport and go ethereal which is awesome

[@JustSumIdiot]

My first character was a ranger that was HEAVILY lore based. My background was lore, my subclass actually wasn’t, d&d beyond didn’t give me many options, but multiclassing was lore. We ended the campaign at lvl 10 or 11, I was ranger 3, Druid 3 because we adopted a dragon and I cherished him, and rogue 4-5 because I wanted my character to actually be good at something

[@YaBoiAshX]

*plays fighter with a bow*

[@Blu_Moon_Owl]

@@JustSumIdiot that sounds awesome

[@firekirby123]

​@@YaBoiAshX *plays ranger with a greatsword*

[@DonPatch]

Rangers my first class too - and shes by far my favorite of all the classes I played so far alongside a Druid, I feel your pain too

[@Icephantom573]

My first ever character was a ranger, and my DM persuaded me to give him more charisma than constitution, because it would be fun. What followed was an experience close to the hunger games, with quite a few near-death situations. The ranger is still my favourite class though, and I kinda wish the campaign hadn't died right when we hit level 5

[@dreamwolf7302]

I've done a few charisma heavy Rangers. Its actually not a bad concept, because it allows you to throw a few levels at Paladin or Rouge, later on, for some extra damage, and some extra Edge or you know, some Smite.

[@TNH91]

@@dreamwolf7302 I've never met a good ranger that felt the need to use rouge, but I guess some just want to look good with some make-up.

[@dreamwolf7302]

@@TNH91 If im mixing Ranger and Rouge, its usually a combat heavy campaign, and my ranger is out of his element (never faces his favored enemy, never gets his terrain bonus because the DM looks at your sheet, and gets everyone out of the forest and into a desert as soon as he sees 'forest' as your choice). I've done some kick ass pure ranger builds. but if the DM is more focused on 'winning' i have to adapt.

[@MonkeyJedi99]

@@dreamwolf7302 Yeah, if a DM uses the ranger character's favored terrain as a reason to AVOID that terrain, the players should all band together and ask, "What the [redacted]?"

[@DaddyHensei]

@@dreamwolf7302 I don't get dms that want to "win", in my mind a wipe is just a loss for everyone.

[@jaylocke2879]

I always considered the Ranger (which is my favorite class) a more druid-like, fighter based counterpart to the Bard. They're kind of both like jack of all trades, but with less magic than a bard. 5e did them kind of dirty, so I always end up picking a homebrew Ranger. I can't find a credit on the PDF I saved a while ago, but they made a homebrew subclass called "Vigilante" which was kind of like an urban ranger; exactly what I was looking for. I had considered the City Domain cleric, but it was too focused on the city, and I wanted my ranger to be able to handle both city and wilderness.

[@1stCallipostle]

It's Fighter-Druid-Rogue-Bard with key features being situational It's just spread too thin

[@fatbean2000]

They also are a d10 which is the same as the fighter.

[@discoseizure321]

As a guy who frequents ranger this hurts me on a astral level, too accurate.

[@fantasy-artist4425]

This guy really hates rangers

[@mrmaster9801]

I've got a ranger in my group and, even though the player has the bad habit of rolling more 1 than any other player I've ever seen, his character is a blast, expecially after we acquired Tasha's Cauldron of Everything. Narratively speaking, he's a Hunter focused on killing dragons, which is good since we are playing Tyranny of Dragons. In combat, being an archer, he's capable of dealing astounding damages up to a very long range. His powers are good both in offense and defense and he he has saved the day more than once with some well placed spell, premium ones being spiked growth, cure wounds and lightning arrow. If you add his Sharpshooter and Skulker feats to the package, he's a pretty solid damage dealer, scout and even support spellcaster.

[@Tespri]

Probably just breaking the rules for that damage

[@mrmaster9801]

@@Tespri what do you mean?

[@ultraman6644]

I don't play a ranger but I can sympathise with the Nat 1s I managed to roll 7 in a 3 hour session but I also get the most Nat 20s so it balances out

[@firehazard1052]

@@Tespri no I played a ranger for awhile and I built it to a point where I was dealing like 56 damage per turn

[@Tespri]

@@mrmaster9801 Every time I hear story of a good ranger damage it always ends up me learning that the player broke the rules or DM was having big time homebrew.

[@oneoftheboyz1538]

Actually with Tasha rangers now are in a pretty good spot, and definitely are better than before

[@LucanVaris]

Yeah, but no matter how much they buff the Ranger, they can't change the fact that it's the Ranger. It may be the best class in the game, but... it's the Ranger. According to Section 15, sub-section 63, sub-sub section 47, sub-sub-sub-section 2 of *"T H E C O D E,"* that means it's stereotypically bad.

[@firekirby123]

Yup yup, druidic warrior fighting style to give them access to cantrips and all the natural explorer replacements are really good and versatile options. There are still things the original natural explorer feat is useful for, (ie. playing an Underdark expert in Out of the Abyss, or Arctic expert in Icewind Dale) but it got some really useful options that really highlight the versatility of the class.

[@trebmal587]

Honestly, Ranger is not that bad of a class. It's just the beastmaster subclass that is terrible (seriously, who designed this ???), which gave a bad rep to the class overall.

[@firekirby123]

@@trebmal587 Even _that_ isn't true anymore, as Tasha's gave the subclass quite a few buffs, such as a scaling animal companion more in line with similar creatures like the Steel Defender.

[@trebmal587]

@@firekirby123 oh yeah ? Now that you mention it, last time I checked the PHB, I didn't found some mechanics I was sure the subclass has. I should really go check tasha's version then, thx !

[@Scorpious187]

It's ok, Ranger Guy. I'm playing a Fey Wanderer Ranger right now. I got your back.

[@Ametisti]

I went with ranger when I first started D&D (with said campaign still ongoing), since I figured it'd be a good kinda jack-of-all-trades kinda class for some support and damage but avoiding getting close to stuff while I figured out the game. I did multi-class 1 level into Rogue, pretty much just to get sneak attack for that lil extra dmg.

[@Rattysauce]

It was near the end of our campaign when that combination came in clutch. I was level 14 in total, I took three into thief rogue, the rest in the Hunter's Conclave. I had just gotten volley and we stumbled on a rather large group of bad guys. We weren't discovered by them, luckily. We discussed what to do when I pitched the idea to just volley them and get that sweet sneak attack damage on all of them. I killed a couple of them outright. It's only topped by my nature cleric dropping insect plague on a Kobold camp and wiping all of them out. I love this game.

[@Ametisti]

@@Rattysauce nuuuuh. Not the kobolds. The poor innocent kobolds.

[@megafireguy6]

It’s as my dm always says: “if any of you wants to play a ranger, let me know and I’ll help you make your character work with another class”

[@mitchellslate1249]

Damn that is harsh...

[@gingerinajacket8519]

@@mitchellslate1249 But fair. Rangers are the recipient end of the phrase "Anything you can do I can do better." as their nature doesn't give them any identity. Nature Lover? Druid. Ranged Fighter? Either Eldritch Blastlock or Fighter with a bow. Commander? Paladin. Healer? Druid again or Cleric. Sneaky? Rogue. Skillful? Bard, Rogue, or Artificer past level 7 (basically 5 free +5's a day to skill rolls if you build an Artificer properly). Cast Spells? Dont make me laugh. Seriously. What *is* a Ranger supposed to be uniquely good at? Even Paladins and Clerics have a balance in expectation. How does anything a Ranger do actually stack up against being a Druid? Or a Fighter? And in the case you want to say "Why not both?" Multiclass. Start off with Fighter, and then figure out how they entered into the agreement with Nature. A standard array has 3 values above the necessary requirements for the 2 stats you need to be above 13. It isn't even that hard to make a strong Druid or a perceptive Fighter.

[@sekira4516]

@@gingerinajacket8519 spoken like someone who has never seen the Gloomstalker, Fey Wanderer, or Horizon Walker Ranger. what makes Ranger unique is that it does the job of multiple different classes all at once without being 'bad' at any of it. now does a pure Fighter do more damage then a Ranger? honestly not until they get their 3rd and 4th attack and that's level 15 or so. does a Cleric heal for more? obviously yes Ranger is an off-healer not a dedicated healer much like the Paladin it has healing magic in the event the main healer is either incapicated or having to heal someone else. does a Paladin and Rogue do more damage? obviously yes Rogues are fucking busted and Paladins have almost as much damage output as a Rogue they're whole thing is single target nuking. does Bard and Rogue have more skill jockeyness? yes that's what they were both designed to do. althought Artificer does the one thing Ranger can't: break the game economy by mass-producing magic items. the entire point of the Ranger is to be a generalist that fits into any party and be able to approach any scenario without being utterly useless, people just don't know how to fucking build or play a Ranger because it isnt *herdurr I roll 20d8 damage with no effort* or *herdurr I cast Fireball* or *herdurr I roll to seduce.* so if you are quite done subscribing to the very outdated viewpoint on Rangers kindly start dissing a class that actually deserv- oh wait no such class exists.

[@macrow1815]

@@sekira4516 I don't think that is the only problem, many Dms I've played with usually do not consider about survival factors in the wild environment. Its like no need for a pilot if all planes are auto piloted in campaigns, or making every dungeon illuminated so there is no need for dark vision or torch. Usually journeys to destinations are skipped with free teleportation from an NPC wizard, or with time skip until there is combat and etc.

[@mitchellslate1249]

@@gingerinajacket8519 No I meant that as a good smack talk, spoken as a stunned but accepting onlooker of the judgement you just pronounced. That was Harsh. It was True. Makes it very Harsh indeed. Thank you. You just said everything I keep trying to say in too many words about the class and what I detect in it, but I played it once, and sometimes despite being a game designer and studying it so well a little dense somehow when actually trying to play D&D. I could say I strongly get D&D except all of Class Balance and Leveling in terms of how the gameplay looks over time in actual Practice. Otherwise we get pretty much all of D&D game design...which is why it is not hard to spot the Warlock and Ranger problems, and I only hesitate about crticising them for Class Balance and play experience we do not have concerning progression...even though you can...just...read the rules for progression. In other words, lack of confidence due to lack of play experience when others stand up for classses and make arguments. But what you just said...Yep. 100%. Spotted it a long time ago, but could never describe it without that doubt over speaking out of turn or being accidentally ill informed or understanding. Eldritch Blastlock...hahaha! The other class that has people doing better than it. Look up DM It All and watch the Original Dungeons and Dragons video. Spellcaster classes are literally 3 ranks of Magic User and just sad.

[@ArtemisDalmasca]

Currently playing a Drakewarden Ranger in a game I just joined XD and I love her. Rangers aren't forgotten, little Ranger in the sheet

[@Mary_Studios]

I have a player who's playing that. And I played it while it was still UA and was happy to here it was official. My favorite subclass of Ranger

[@yourlocalcorrectidiot927]

Same

[@firekirby123]

@@Mary_Studios Dude, official Drakewarden in Fizban's got such a BUFF in comparison to the UA, it's awesome~

[@HiddenConstellation]

I made a ranger NPC for a one-shot for a campaign I’m DM’ing that was set a few years before the main story. His backstory was basically the entire world collectively giving him the worst possible time (rangers are running jokes in my group too). I introduced him as a DMPC that mostly sat back and acted as a guide and lore drop when needed, and also managed to always roll terribly for him (funny, that, but it fit the theme). Anyway one player was kind, one tried to sacrifice him, the others were neutral, but he survived the one-shot. Now this man is alive, and in the main campaign world somewhere. Their actions dictated what he would become, but he’s had years of a head start, and he is stronger than them now. They can only hope that they are prepared for the consequences of their one-shot characters decisions. Very excited for the reveal, but perhaps one kind man in a world of darkness was enough to steer him right, perhaps.

[@Dragoncraft3925]

Dude, as a fellow DM/Player (I DM my own campaign on Saturdays, and play my friends campaign on Sundays) I must know what happens with this Ranger lmao. Im kind of interested in the story now. Want to know how things fare with this Ranger who survived something he wasnt supposed to survive apparently. This is the reason I love to DM. Im a storyteller and having to tell a story based around the decisions my players make is a challenge. Seeing them enjoy the story Im telling and seeing the emotions they feel when something happens whether it be good or bad is the most enjoyable thing. Seeing them be that invested in something I created for them is very rewarding. A friend once asked me why I put myself through the stress of creating a world and story just for it to probably turn out to be the complete opposite of what I intended in the first place. I told him that to me that was the fun of it. Sometimes what my players do actually makes it better than what I had created in that moment. In my opinion, its more fun to build a story, and then watch it change and grow with what my players do, than just writing a normal story by itself. I dont know, its hard to explain why I have more fun being a DM than a story writer by itself lmao.

[@expensivemagic4754]

I love it! Incredible idea.

[@GreenQueen69420]

My first character was actually a ranger, and I loved her! It just also happened that my DM (not yet boyfriend, and definitely not yet ex boyfriend) happened to NOT MENTION ON THE SESSION ZERO that our campaign was going to happen underground, in a dungeon, (my land proficiency was forests) and my character (a human) was the only one who didn't have night vision! Coupled with my shit dice making me miss every single object, it got so immensely frustrating that I nearly quit D&D altogether. It was until we came across a gelatinous cube that I was actually helpful, where everyone else's weapons were missing. I normally play paladins now, but I still miss my ranger. I may try her again one day.

[@ooooneeee]

bad DM!

[@StarfruitGamer123]

Backstory: Just woke up in the bar and doesnt remember anything about his life (but convienantly remembers all his abilities). That's literally the backstory for half of my characters, tbh.

[@SteveSilverskull]

if you need a backstory tip, try fleshing them out with a group that your character belongs to. for example, my warlock who was tricked as a young child into making a pact with a fiend, and formed the order of the black cat, with others who were also preyed upon. their goals are to research infernal law to escape their contracts, and to search for others like themselves or my half orc noble cleric, chosen by his warband to be an ambassador for peace now that the new warchief has taken over and stopped the raiding of farms and villages. as an orcish cleric, he's more of a tribal shaman so hes in touch with his ancestor spirits, and since he has human ancestors as well aas orcish ones, he was chosen specially for the task. or my halfling wizard, apprentice to the goldtop brewery who, after his master died, inherited the business, and the dark secret. old gaffer goldtop was a master wizard, and a member of the Fine Fettle, a group of secret halfling wizards, each using magic to improve their artisan products. he must now seek out these wizards as the inheritor of the brewery, to tell them of his masters death and his promotion to the order create a group of people, and you have an instant cool backstory

[@raznaak]

I'm the other way around, I think of a concept and backstory according to the setting of the campaign (usually the backstory is at least 300 words long, my longest up to date is about 2500 words 😅), THEN look at what abilities, characteristics and equipment fits the backstory...

[@putinmahcochin1636]

Yeah. That sucks.

[@nathanthom8176]

Do you provide information of what he doesn't remember? I ask as that gives a DM nothing to work with and my rule is if the player doesn't care what their backstory is (no attempt at all), then they don't care what I do with thier backstory.

[@raznaak]

@@nathanthom8176 yeah. I ask at least for some written notable moments of backstory or if able a real story. One player I played with in a few games gives either no backstory beyond the character sheet or sometimes verbally tell something extremely vague... then as the campaign advances, she tells things like "My character should know that!" when something she thinks would be advantageous happens or "I take out of my bag [insert item]" when she clearly never bought that item and when challenged she says "Well, because of my backstory my character obviously has it"... WHICH BACKSTORY??? So when I became GM for a new game, I knew her enough by then. I asked for a real backstory, and when she tried to be vague, I made suggestions and asked for confirmation of the backstory before finalizing it. I also asked for an explicit inventory list (usually we play somewhat loosely with items as we trust each others, but with her I had to be cautious, so I asked everybody for a full inventory). There's also something like a fate point system and I often noticed as a played that she used then quite often... so I also keep track of her points... So the few times she told me "Well, my character knows this" or "I obviously have that item", I pointed to her sheets and told her no. And when she tried to use more fate points than she had, I told her no. She argued that she didn't used them all, and I showed her the paper where I kept track of them... She also complained that I didn't give her as much xp as the other players, while I explicitly told them I'd give xp based on the play they made in addition to the base game xp, and she was on her cell half of the games, without interacting except when prompted (while she was supposed to play a diplomat character with insane charisma and she always presented herself as someone with insane RP capacities...). It's sad that I had to do that, but she was basically low-key cheating. It's not fair to the other players if they have to work for their stuff and achievements, and she just gaslighted the GMs into giving her more stuff. Since I knew her habits, I knew what to look for and how to prevent it... Since then she had a fallout with another player and left the game, and everyone felt better after she left...

[@bexadventures]

This was sent just as I finished making a ranger character

[@JD-mh8be]

I made my ranger last night

[@Loderyod]

Impossible, perhaps the archives are incomplete...

[@paperclipman4640]

Lol

[@OneShotQuesters]

What subclass??

[@MapleToaster]

If it wasn't the Gloomstalker, hunter or drakewarden (Dragon beast master style) then I highly recommend those. Haven't played the dragon one but it's at the top of my list. Because Dragons.

[@arnokiwatsch3856]

The Ranger in my campaign is actually useful. Without him we couldn't have talked to some aliens asking for a psi-crystal but he was a language master. After all we went out with laser canons to fight the dragon in the end of the campaign

[@hammer1349]

Feels like it could have been part of a Gloryhammer music video/album story

[@huntclanhunt9697]

I made a ranger. He's been my favorite character. Really fun when we RP the traveling from place to place. Hunting and foraging have been fun. And in combat he's great with both a sword and a bow.

[@sabermaster2761]

Hunting and foraging sound so fun but if you forage you can't keep an eye on stuff for the party while doing that right? Or does the party normally wait while you forage?

[@phnxrpnzlYT]

Rangers are freaking amazing, and I'm upset they get dissed so much!!! I recently played a Tabaxi ranger - amazing combination that ended up dealing a crap ton of damage PLUS wicked Dex skills. You are loved and appreciated, Ranger!!!

[@yourlocalcorrectidiot927]

Same but half elf drakewarden

[@OneShotQuesters]

Ranger main here as well 😂

[@yourlocalcorrectidiot927]

@@OneShotQuesters yeah we exist and we love it

[@retrospectus]

@@OneShotQuesters of course, only a ranger main could be this brutal when dissing rangers!

[@carlosforma5978]

"Wow... Only a true would be that cruelly !" And yes, this is based on the Donkey quote from Shrek "wow... Only a true friend would be that cruelly honest!"

[@Evelyn_Rose1151]

For my first attempt at DND I picked a Ranger! I’ve always loved Archery classes and the whole foresty thing allows for some pretty cool backgrounds and personalities!

[@TheBottegaChannel]

Back before the release of the artificer class, I was gearing up to play in a short campaign in 5e, but didnt know where to start. When I asked my buddy what base class I would be in D&D, he immediately said " Ranger, since they don't have anything resembling an Artificer class.". I asked him why and he said " Your mannerisms, mindset, knowledge and resourcefulness make you a perfect candidate for the class.". After that I took his advice, made a Ranger character and had a blast. Main morals to take away from this? Some classes just click for certain people, and those classes are what people naturally gravitate towards. That said, sometimes, even the most overlooked base classes can unexpectedly be your real jam if you just step outside your box and give 'em a try. Worked for me after all... might work for you as well.

[@KP762a]

The character I loved playing the most was a Dwarf Bard/Sorcerer (3.5 Edition) with a focus on "Sound/Vibration" spells. I figured that the Dwarven Bard would be an historian and scholar, and since the Sorcerer Class also used Charisma as a base, I could have access to all the sound/vibration based spells at all times without preparation. Sound carries differently through caves, and echoes are something Dwarves would be naturally attuned with. I loved that build.

[@kenap637]

In the game I joined I made a ranger because I thought they already had a tank and a healer. Now I am a monster slayer assimar ranger who has to tank because the barbarian player left. Good thing I choose the two-handed fighting style.

[@karhart6663]

My ranger is proficient in two handed weapons, which is nice when I can't do the range stuff. I was able to pull a few badass moves in melee. This is my 1st campaign and I'm not really into the combat aspect, so this gave me a boost in kills and made the game enjoyable.

[@kenap637]

@@karhart6663 mine is the same way. Double it with hunters mark and it deals quite the damage. It does make some things difficult though since most of the party is magic users who don't heal besides the druid. Good thing rangers can use magic lol.

[@karhart6663]

@@kenap637 yes! We're pretty good with healers. situations so far haven't called for much of my sneaky spells, so I'm looking forward to pulling out some tricks soon.

[@arrantdemon]

Made a Revised Ranger Deep Stalker for a campaign. DM and I discussed the character at a break in the narrative. Both agreed that he should be retired. Was too OP. Most enemies were getting gutted before any real combat started. Loved that character. Rangers are deadly when the stars align.

[@docmnc8010]

Did this with my last gloom stalker as well. We ended up in an area that was almost always in darkness so he got quietly swapped out for a very loud champion

[@TheTdroid]

@@docmnc8010 I don't think most people would argue that Stalkers are weak, but they are definitely above and beyond what most Rangers are capable of. And Stalkers don't adress one of my criticisms of the Ranger; they have really poor T2 scaling, so multiclassing is almost universally a better option after reaching lvl 5. If anything, Stalkers are more incentivised to multiclass, since they synergize so well with Rogue.

[@samaelmors3901]

Probably the most fun I've ever had was as an Aarakocra Ranger in a pirate setting. The sheer amount of damage he could drop in consecutive turns was insane, but it never felt unbalanced compared to the other marshal classes in the party (The wizard did 1 shot an entire Man Of War one time, but hey).

[@DaBlueIghuana]

I’m playing a Ranger in a campaign rn and I love him, he speaks in a russian accent, is dead but alive and regards his notes as supreme deities. Overall the moral one of the party, with a demonic barbarian and a kleptomaniac bard rogue running in before he has time to put down any reasoning

[@Olav_Hansen]

A player of my campaign has just had her first character killed and now she's bringing in a ranger. I actually think it's something the party can make good use of, since it's a campaign with a lot of travel through jungle.

[@GunnerM60]

I feel attacked. I LOVE RANGERS! They are my favorite class!

[@brano13177]

Same! Ranger was one of my most used charicter classes in D&D. This was just... Nat20 emotional damage. :

[@OneShotQuesters]

Same 😅

[@box298]

Plot twist: The player was so ashamed to choose ranger that they committed seppuku, the character sheet just autoscroller onwards.

[@impulse4501]

Honestly, I play a Gloomstalker Tiefling ranger in a home campaign and I really enjoy playing him. I knew absolutely nothing about rangers when I chose the class, it was just "Ooo, ranger! That sounds fun!" And it worked. Probably one of my favorite characters so far, and while he may not be the heaviest hitter, I find that his abilities are pretty useful. Once, I used Hunter's Mark on an enemy and ended up tracking them all the way to their hideout, which saved us a lot of time since we didn't have to find the entrance and we went through the lesser guarded back door. I really don't get why Ranger as a class is so underutilized, I find that their abilities are as good as any other class. I always have a super fun time in our sessions, they're the highlight of my week.

[@ivancaravaca6680]

That was sad. I remember when I made my gloomstalker kobold ranger, and making the character was a blast, like, he is really good at hiding and getting advantage on others, so, he is somewhat of the "Don't understimate me just because I'm sort" guy. I have it in case my character dies in the campaign I'm in, or if that one doesn't die, he will be my next character to role as. I can see why before tasha they weren't seen as a really competent class, but after tasha and the changes they made to their level 1 features, ranger is a class that I think it's quite overlooked, since their spells are amazing and they have some really interesting arquetypes.

[@dragonreaper9288]

I'm so glad you're continuing this series! Another great one! It's so true I've never seen a ranger in any DND game I've played or DMed I feel so bad for them... I'll make a ranger!....aaah...noo...maybe later

[@lockwoan01]

Currently, in my campaign, "Wanderer of the Orray" from Acquisitions Incorporated, my brother, who wasn't into D&D at first, is playing a Human Ranger with the Merchant background and Medium Armor Mastery feat, plus Deft Explorer (Expertise on Persuasion) with the Defense fighting style. At the moment, he has 18 AC, 21 hp (level 2), and a +3 in Persuasion (Charisma's the dump Stat). This guy has been doing duty as Tank, Striker, and even Face - and has gotten potential foes to sheath their weapons and talk to him as he speaks 6 languages.

[@silvercandra4275]

Second chracter I played was a ranger whose favored terrain was desert... Never even got close to a desert... Made for some fun interactions though, when he failed to climb a tree, was made fun of, then retaliated by screaming about how he's never seen a pine tree before. I honestly just wanted to play a mysterious brooding wanderer... who had no clue what the hell he was doing and was actually only wandering because his girlfriend kicked him out.

[@tigher3930]

I’ve got one swarmkeeper ranger in my party and my girlfriend is joining in on my game as a drakewarden ranger, and I gotta say, Rangers are great in the right setting. Sure, I run my games a little different so they also have another class to mix things in, but consistently, my ranger player(s) are really fun and challenge me as a DM.

[@RoseKindred]

Rangers in Lore: 100-year-old Scotch, smooth and smokey that pairs well with anything. Rangers in DnD: Bottom shelf Vodka, harsh, bitter, and you need to mix it to mask the taste.

[@sarahdenz3398]

Maybe your a ranger from a one shot where the players have amnesia and have to fill out the character sheet as the game progresses. So it's not that they don't want to create you, it's like they're meeting you for the first time!

[@seanathaalexand]

I played a Ranger for around a year and a half, and I loved him. I also was told by a someone of a friend who played a Ranger that was a bit outdoorsy irl, so he’d use a lot of real world stuff when he’d do things. Like he knew how a bow worked and so he’d ask if he could do that kinda stuff to make the shots slower or fast or more precise. And his DM was really cool and excited because of all the flavor it added to the character and the world.

[@sabermaster2761]

I'm really curious on how to make shots slower or faster cause it seems like it would be cool if I picked up the sharpshooter feat for my Ranger and if they made shots that could hit a target around cover it would be cool to describe for flavor instead of me just saying I notch and arrow firing at (monster) and stuff.

[@crystaltriforce64]

in my group's playthrough of Rime of the Frost Maiden i play Otis Berger, a husky shifter & drake warden ranger who is an absolute dragon simp and is currently adopting every kobold the party comes across (as of now he's adopted two tribes) and may have accidently dragged Bahamut into the plot which has now turned icewind dale into a turf war among gods

[@crunchevo8974]

Omg that's hilarious, also wholesome oddly enough

[@crystaltriforce64]

@@crunchevo8974 i didn't even get into how much he and his dragon fiance are absolute simps for each other XD

[@crunchevo8974]

@@crystaltriforce64 you'd hope the simping is at least mutual. Otherwise it's kinda like stalking but not secretly

[@crystaltriforce64]

@@crunchevo8974 oh yeah it is, it's almost disgustingly sweet from both sides

[@oxybe]

Remember that for those who just stick to the PHB/DMG/MM, the Ranger's best foot forward is the Hunter subclass. With splatbooks, the class stands shoulder to shoulder with the others, but it did trip and stumble on release.

[@dylandugan76]

Ironically, the Hunter is now the weakest Ranger post-Tasha's. It's perhaps the one aspect of the game that aged most poorly.

[@carlosforma5978]

@@dylandugan76 With Hunter and Tasha's, you still deal an extra 1d4+1d8 per turn on any enemy you focus fire, as long as they're worth spending Favored Foe and have taken some damage.

[@gingerinajacket8519]

@@carlosforma5978 That sounds super specific. Why would I not just opt to use a Warlock then? They get an invocation that is a static +5 for all hits, regardless of previous knowledge.

[@tromedlovdrolmai]

As a ranger main in D&D, this makes me sad and want to hug this ranger. I play Ranger's for 4 main reasons: 1) you can start with a Longbow which has an effect Range of 150 feet, and a maximum range with disadvantage up to 600 feet. 2) At second level you start to get magic, and get access to 2 spells. The best spells of choice are Hunter's Mark, and Cure Wounds, allowing you to deal extra damage, provided you can maintain concentration on the spell, though with your Longbow's range, you're not likely to get hit in the first place, and Heal yourself and your party if needed. 3) The Ranger's level 3 primeval awareness is really useful in determining if there are any aberrations, celestials, dragons, elementals, fey, fiends, and undead within a 1 mile radius. Even though this ability doesn't reveal the location or number, its still useful to know what is out there. and 4) All of the Ranger Archetypes are good, though my personal favorite is the Gloom Stalker, because it grants Darkvision if you don't have it already, extends the range if you do have it, and also makes you invisible in darkness to any creature that relies on Darkvision to see you in darkness. Also, the other abilities of Gloom Stalker are useful too. At 5th level, Rope Trick can basically guarantee the party a safe spot to short rest in just by using a 10 foot rope. Of course, my main stat as a ranger is Dexterity, followed by Strength, Constitution, Wisdom, Intelligence, and Charisma.

[@sparklegemrose]

“Thank you” what a sweet ball of sunshine that must be protected at all costs

[@Pyrous56]

I think ever since the 5th edition phb Ranger it was just a big target to be meme’d on. And from then on no matter what wizards released people had a sour taste in their mouth about Ranger and thus the stigma of “Ranger bad” just kinda stuck no matter how good Ranger got.

[@Rex0142king]

My group always allows people to play revised ranger and it's been a fairly popular class ever since. People just need to talk to their DMs about fixing the things that are lacking or use any of the revisions that exist out there on the net.

[@shawnwolf5961]

I mean, ranger has been pretty bad, that is pretty much non debatable. That said, Tasha's fixed quite a few things that made ranger bad.

[@onemisterfranko]

a first time player in my game picked ranger and ended up with horizon walker, they love it. I talked to them ahead of time so they would pick favored terrain and enemies that would fit the game, they scout ahead, bring a nice skill set to the table with some variety and in combat act like a striker. Tough enough to take a hit and good at taking down the small fry which prior to them and the monk joining always gave the paladins and cleric trouble. You don't always need to "excell" to be good or be appreciated as a class. The wizard NPC who had been hanging with the party prior to the ranger showing up and giving off hints of some form of instability. The half orc dose primeval awareness and goes "oh there is a dragon within five miles of us? ok that's bad." The "Wizard" is visibly concerned and ultimately this helped culminate in the black dragon being unmasked for who they really where and their intentions.

[@jamielol8233]

ah, this hurts as my first and only dnd character is a ranger haha

[@user-vg7mk8ur9c]

Why u stop whit one campaign or u just in u first campaign?

[@spencervance8484]

Yeah my first and only so far was a beast master ranger...then the dm vaporized my wolf with an undead creature. Havent seen my dm since because he lives in a different state and it was during a family reunion

[@jonathonellis5604]

you should do a skit about people who make new characters all the time, like an intervention between the unused characters and the player making a new one have it be all poe faced but include a bunch of silly lines like "And what about fred over there, you never even finnished his backstory before moving to a new one, *cuts to a litteral half finnished character thats half blank suit half fantasy costume* "I AM IN INCREDABL PAIN" or "What about Gorge, his pereants were killed in front of him, and because of you he has been stuck re-living that for the past 8 years" *cuts to a edgy rogue* "YEA-OH GOD IT'S HAPPNING AGAIN" *perents come out of door* "SON" "mama papa, i love you" *BBEG walks in* "oh is it that time again *stabs* oh well same time next week" *rogue crying over dead parents* or a joke about the wizard being in a limbo of dying of 1d4 unfinnished character damage

[@lucashayes346]

To be fair the few sessions of Drakewarden i’ve had so far have been the most fun of my entire dnd playing career. With the optional class features for ranger mixed in with a customizable drake companion just gave me the best narrative ended campaign of my life, and the combat is really great too. It’ll get better once my boy can fly, and even better once I can fly on him, but im still gonna be having an immense amount of fun the whole way up, I think. And, he’s technically a spiritual summon, so even if he dies I can just summon him back

[@nickclemitus4598]

Have you cheesed the resistance buff yet? If I read that correctly the way you could play it is your dragon is a grappler tank inside a wall of fire.

[@DracoPlaysYT]

Hello Mr. Ranger! I've been watching your videos since I began playing DND probably like a year ago now. Hopefully your channel does very well!

[@crunchynoodles0]

Oh man his excitement was just amazing

[@jacobholmquist9994]

Really great quality, I can really see the effort you’ve put in

[@Staladen_]

I had an elf ranger as my first ever PC at my current table. He's a blast... I feel so bad for this ranger tho, they're so diverse and can be so many things. Bless him, here's my hug from down under :)

[@Pausenmacher]

I actually thought you were going with "Legolas" for the Name. Nonetheless, you did not disappoint me.

[@Axetwin]

I think people get too caught up on the DPS of a class and forget that table top D&D is also about the roleplaying aspect of the game.

[@Sir-Pleiades]

A ranger can also be a really good DPS compare to a fighter.

[@mitchellslate1249]

Yeah...But people also complain about the roleplay struggle and the feat issue hitting hard as far as...I am the Forest Guy! Without a Forest... Ooh I have a pet! And they die...Can we make this better? Oh I have a Bow! And the Assassin Rogue just outbowed me, and the Fighter, and the Warlock's Eldritch blast for some reason... Listen, I am not even good enough at playing D&D to criticize something some days, and horde breaker and some other stuff is great. But even I know something doesn't sound right when, even after playing a ranger, everyone else is more damaging with their attacks, make more attacks, can also use a bow, a lot of spells still make the ranger feel like it is this weird fake druid half caster thing with a few arrows, and we added damn Drakes and Dragons to make up for the class. I played it once, and again I am not the most thoroughly trained player regarding how all of the classes function and work. But recognizing a Warlock is weaker than a Wizard is a no brainer, and matches the history of the game, sadly. Figuring out that the features are really odd and broad and vague for Ranger at times as far as scope and when they come up, is found just in the text. Getting that a low level animal just dies and that is it, and it ain't a familiar, is simple math. Recognizing Fighters with a Bow are Better, but just are not called Archers and given a subclass for the Bow, only feats...Yeah, that is a huge glaring issue. If Rangers could do Bowmanship like no other thing alive, it would be in some ways what it is supposed to be. If instead of being specific all the time to favored enemies and terrain, and could always take that tracking and other things elsewhere, it would make some sense nad be better, but we also I think have a class that some days is lacking identity in itself. That speaks of more disinterest or confusion or dislike on my part, but for real I think it is a genuine problem where what the Ranger is...Is not very clear always. Even if you get it, you don't. Warlocks are evil pact buddies, wizards are magic users and students of power, sorcerers are inborn magic conquerors pretty much, and barbarians are enraged and often stupid warriors with certain base and tribal qualities, rogues are thieves and assassins, druis protect the wilderness and nature...And that can be any kind of Nature...Clerics are Priests, Paladins are Holy Crusaders, Artificers are magic tinkerers and madmen, and Fighters...Fighters have a problem too, but at least they are basically a Fighter enough to make up for it, and can be a knight, soldier, champion, gladiator...Or an Archer... What is a Ranger? A scout? We have rogues. A Nature man? We have Druid. An Archer? We have rogues, fighters, and even Warlocks if they did not take Eldritch Blast. A Guardian and Protector of Civilization? Okay, how does that translate into the game and abilities? It does have some things that bother me in the back of the head, even if I have heard and know some things where I may not be entirely clear on all of the class, the game, and everything to know for sure if something is really fully wrong...Or it just got off on the wrong foot and is ignored over other options. Honestly though, it may be that the Ranger needs greater exagerration or aligning things beneficially to be better for what the class and its identitiy is supposed to be as unique and able. Problem with this and the Paladin was they both were Amalgamation classes at the beginning, crossed between Fighting-Man and Clerics, and Fighting Man, Paladin, and maybe a bit of Druid originally. The class is too much a hybrid between things that got better on theirr own enough to overshadow and replace Ranger, is the way it may be. I don't know. I am going to keep looking at i.t

[@ruined_maze1370]

@@mitchellslate1249 While I get that a Ranger is and can be lacking in areas where another can shine, you don't always have to pick favored terrain or favored enemy or primeval awareness, it's what Tashas was trying to rectify. Yes there are multiple other classes who can do it better but it's not always about being being better, if you want a solid ranger you can build them so that they make way more attacks than a fighter, you want them to be a better scout than a rouge go gloomstalker or horizon, you don't have to go beast master if you don't want to. A base ranger may not be the best but I feel like they have the best versatility, they can be utilized in any aspect where one class is focused only. You can out tank a paladin, you last longer than a barbarian, you can do more damage than a rouge or fighter. A Rangers spells are aimed at survival and utility not aimed at becoming all powerful like other spell casters. All in all it depends on the ranger you want, they can be amazing and absolutely outshine any other person in the party in multiple ways.

[@eirei0789]

@@ruined_maze1370 Anyone trying to defend Ranger always bring up Splatbook archetypes and Tasha's. Which prove the point of how shit Ranger was on release.

[@mitchellslate1249]

@@ruined_maze1370 i like the argument Ranger is survival and utility since it matches the class distinction...however, Tasha's let us face it was homebrewing the classes and races with intermix features. In orther words, Tasha was about "rectifying" d&d by making it so players could ignore certain things and just customize. I admit not knowing all of how and getting the full picture of Tasha's, but from my understanding you are talking about the proof of the problem that Ranger has to be kitted and even refitted in different ways. The generlist ranger is still standout, and making them more of one class and then another, proves it is out of place in standing on its own. Its niche class should be Range and Wilderness, but has no mechanical and systemic way of expressing this well, same as Warlock. Warlock is just lesser magic user still even eith invocations. Some days it is not even if classes are viable, but that they do not fee right because they dont fit in as a strong and decisive class independent of others by design. Ranger is a weaker generalist that can focus on an aspect to be good at if it wants to. Warlock can specialize some by invocations as well, but still is a weaker spellcaster. You can argue both can be viable and effective...but they are not meant to. Anyone can see that they are not designed to stand on their own feet, but have to be like a rogue, paladin, or barbarian, or be generally between these classes. Most druid subclasses are unique, wizard is just powerful, sorcery points is something at least, but the feats of ranger and warlock and the way they progress is weird, substandard, not unique, and just bizarely low and out of place. Because Ranger was always between classes of paladin and druid, and paladins just better fighters, and warlocks and sorcerers just weakrr wizards and magic users. That is D&D and it has not changed over time. They could not figure out how to do it in 5e, how to make Ranger unique and effectively its own class and what it is even. It is a fighter druid! That is it really. Its features were a problem and ineffective from get go. Warlock they gave a long term leveling and progress though substandard and weaker, because as some who defend warlock point out it is not designed for normal fights, but long haul spellcasting when wizards are down to cantrips with less power than a warlock. This is abnormal to a point where 5e was not just designed right, and warlock is just weaker, and dependent on eldritch blast alone. You can say effective...but a little ill as far as unique, diverse in tactics, and just stagnant in what is done, andI ahve seen powrrful warlocks, dont get me wrong. But design wise it is still weaker wizard, and this becomes where Lore for Ranger and Warlodk does not fully fit class as far as being separated from others. Barbarians rage, palafins have their faith, clerics are priest, rogues are thieves and assassins, fighters...well they are generalist, specific, perhaps basic as argued, but knights, warriors nonetheless. Wizards are wizards. Sorcerers at least superpowered wizards. Artificers are tech magicians. Druid...I played druid, but they do still have good nature options. Just a little odd as spellcasters due to how they are used in a support way...but that has been true since OD&D. That is my point. Ranger and Warlock are weak and standoffish because they are half classes and hybrids, not independent strengths on their own.

[@bryantfox8543]

I've played one ranger. It was very fun and that character is now an NPC in my DM's campaigns, which is the second time that has occurred

[@thesexysanghieli7818]

"Are you even there?" Bruh, ranger was my very first class I played and I just want to hug this blank canvas boy

[@KingFudge]

Most of the comments are literally just this: - "I don't think ranger is bad" - "So anyway my gloomstalker/horizon Walker ranger..." Yeah, Tashas did a good job of fixing the class, and we all know those two subclasses are the best ones. But you won't convince me that *any other* subclass is viable, especially before Tasha's.

[@robertpascuttini7144]

Sorry bro, I love my beast master.

[@faylinnmystiquerose2224]

I like Fey Wanderer, a lot of it is for flavour but an extra 1d4 psychic damage as part of your first attack each round without having to use a bonus action is also pretty cool.

[@sekira4516]

and Hunter was the base subclass and while it didnt *excel* at anything what makes it a good subclass is how versatile it is and how there isnt a situation it's at a disadvantage unlike most other classes which have a weakpoint of some kind. Hunter is good because of it's ability to fit into any party comp and work, it isnt all that specialized and it doesnt need to be. an overall solid generalist subclass that can act as the anchor to any party composition. people who still diss Ranger for being bad are also people who havent actually read the class and it's subclasses while using actual brain cells to think of how they're used. they just look at Paladin, Rogue, and Fireball and assume any damage output not equivalent isnt viable.

[@robertpascuttini7144]

@@sekira4516 Guy! You're missing out on the spells! The Ranger spells are amazing! Whow needs fire ball when you got summon woodland creature. The stealth skills are amazing!

[@cephalonsark1530]

Swarmkeeper is incredibly versatile and can be very very powerful. I’ve pushed so many enemies off ledges and such with gathered swarm

[@brandongalvan6603]

But why play a Ranger when I can play as a Wood Elf Circle of Stars Druid equipped with a longbow who uses the Archer option of the Starry Form feature in order to play like a martial class while retaining the benefits of still being a full caster?

[@connorsmith4319]

Extra Attack?

[@user-qj2jz9oy8s]

half caster*

[@DaWishard]

Rangers as of now are amazing skill monkeys Since Tashas arrival. And can expertise (canny) a skill they want at early levels, making an expert and really feel like they Excell in places (expertise stealth and pass without a trace effectively makes them the best stealth characters too, without even looking at gloomstalker or other subclasses). Now lemme show you what little stuff you are missing out on and what Rangers do better Ontop of that they got spells like swift quiver (making up to 4 attacks with ranged weaponry in a round, pairs good with a feat I'll go into kater), class abilities that make you a master in traversing and being a master hunter, start off knowing a crap ton of languages, you are a pen ultimate survivor that can be a single man band with tireless and can turn invisible whenever at lv 10, ZEPHYR STRIKE (under-rated), strange utility spells that make them amazing trackers, fighting styles, they just work better with feats like sharpshooter becuase of extra attack (so yeah no, still better ranged output than a messly druid) have climb and swimming speeds so they can do weird stuff to environments like climb a hill to be out of harms way for free with just movement alone, you automatically at early levels move faster than most, fighting styles, can use ANY martial weapon and ANY METAL medium armor (and can easily upgrade to heavy with a feat for extra protection), can cast many spells druids hardly ever pick up and are able to cast for free once a day, and at later levels just deal more damage with weapons overall and can fight even blinded or against invisible and can vanish from fights and be hard to track with just bonus actions all while remembering they can communicate with anything nature based and feel more intune with nature (more than a druid both in rp and mechanically) so.... I mean, looking past the features and cool tools and abilities they got, they also simply do more damage and out pace and are more reliable in straight up damage and survivability compared to druids. Druids aren't really even the top or even middle of the list when it comes to damage numbers for spell casters. Rangers with just extra attack and casting a spell like hunters mark already outpaced most of the damage a Druid can do from early on (and this is without looking at fighting styles like archery, and feats like crossbow expert and sharpshooter and higher levels spells like fire arrow, hail of thorns, magic weapon, and swift quiver which basically combined would outclassed druids damage potential basically through the whole game.) And again, we aren't even looking at subclasses yet, which some are monstrous damage dealers and dripping with flavor. So... yeah. There's your reason ^-^)/

[@eirei0789]

@@user-qj2jz9oy8s Druids are full casters, what are you on about

[@user-qj2jz9oy8s]

@@eirei0789 dunno, i don't own a single DnD book you're probably right. i just think of them that way.

[@silversabercraft]

In my head I just imagined that the other side was just like "Oops, I wrote ranger instead of rogue, hand me a new sheet, this one is too far gone"

[@Honey13777]

Awwwwww, poor baby! He just needs a name! I shall call thee Marimac Swiftarrow! A daring master of the bow whose druid parents wanted him to be a druid as well, but who felt called to pursue his own calling as an arrow slinging, charismatic guardian of the woodlands. Be proud of who you are Marimac. Be proud!!!

[@merrikwright1355]

I can almost feel the disappointment in my characters when I make them.

[@dedotrongames6402]

My dungeon master wants to make our characters' backstory herself, and she still hasn't done it. It's been 4 weeks.

[@peterchen2693]

Tell your dungeon master, NO. I think character backstory is the best part of character creation.

[@r.s.2890]

My beastmaster (primal companion) ranger player didnt come up with a backstroy, so i made one up for him. I'll be adapting the 12 labors and i'm curious if he or any of the players will recognize them. 😆

[@dedotrongames6402]

@@peterchen2693 Unfortunately, we don't get time when we meet, and we're not allowed to take our character sheets home.

[@yourface2464]

@@dedotrongames6402 what kind of campaign is this for? Because those are some red flags unless it's in the proper context

[@pervinthir7151]

thats stupid. Tell your DM to focus on story and world, and let the characters and backstory on you. You are all players. This just sounds like a control freak that i would not like to play with, smells awfull like railroading from this point.

[@HiopX]

Internet: Ranger bad WoC: releases a bunch of new sub classes and revisions Internet: I'll pretend, I didn't see it.

[@nemiza8288]

Currently playing a swarmkeeper ranger in my campaign, 18, 16, 14, 16 16 16 for stats LOL. So so busted and WILL be playing ranger again soon. Lightning arrow for massive dps, hunters mark for more, and a double attack at level 5. I LOVE RANGERS.

[@lucascerqueira202]

My first character on long campaign is a ranger and its actually really cool. The dps is pretty high and consistent

[@sketch_asylum]

I actually really like the Ranger class, I haven't played them before but have a pretty cool idea for a Goliath drakewarden. She still has no name tho, so there's that 😂 I love to build stats and see how I can get the most out the character I'm building but let's not get into naming things, it's really not my strong suit 😅

[@mattiatosi8350]

The rogue waited in eternity for his sheet to be completed...eventually, he stopped thinking

[@jaymcgray]

I had a ranger who I just retired. He is the only original party member left (aside from the Druid he resurrected when he multiclassed to cleric). He survived a year and a half and was actually pretty good. There are so many for details, but I don’t want to bore you.

[@elliedereyna5014]

Justice for Rangers

[@MagicalMedic]

But Rangers are so good since Tasha's! I can't wait for them to shake the stigma. Poor Ranger. 🫂

[@finalfantasy50]

what did tashas do for ranger

[@Reluxthelegend]

@@finalfantasy50 a lot, whole fucking lot

[@MagicalMedic]

@@finalfantasy50 Replaced Natural Explorer with Deft Explorer, which grants them expertise in a skill of their choice and 2 language proficiencies at level 1, +5 movement speed and a swimming and a climbing speed at level 6, and a 1d8+Wis Mod Temporary HP action a number of times per long rest equal to their Proficiency Bonus (which also reduces their Exhaustion by an additional step when resting). They can replace Favored Enemy with Favored Foe, which allows them to mark a target they hit with an additional 1d4 damage (like Hunter's Mark) for 1 minute while concentrating without burning a spell slot. It starts off weak, but scales up to 1d8 by 14th level. They gained additional spell options, more fighting styles, and can use a Druidic Focus for their spells. Their new ability Primal Awareness (replaces Primeval Awareness) grants them a bunch of spells to use 1/day for free, like Speak with Animals, Beast Sense, Speak with Plants, Locate Creature and Commune with Nature (basically makes them more specialized in the wilderness, as they ought to be). The last Feature, Nature's Veil, replaces Hide in Plain Sight: at 10th level they can use a Bonus Action to turn invisible until the start of their next turn, and can do it a number of times equal to their Proficiency bonus. Rangers got a LOT.

[@eirei0789]

I think everyone knows that Ranger got better ever since Xanathars. The meme really for people who played 5E on release, and experienced how bad Ranger was compared to the other classes. Still. I will say that Ranger has only been fixed up to level 10 (with Nature's Veil). Past that, you're still better off multi-classing.

[@MagicalMedic]

@@eirei0789 You know what they say about assumptions. 🤷‍♀️ I'd rather explain than not.

[@HellGrimo]

I just rolled a new character that happens to be a swarmkeeper ranger. Reflavored tabaxi to a ratfolk, oultander wearing skin of giant rat as his trophy, with swarm of rats always crawling around him. I can't wait to play this crazy archetype!

[@balloonbruh4662]

I enjoy playing Rangers quite a bit. My best one's back story was a fallen Aasimar that can't sprout it's wings because they were clipped by my father, a Planetar angel. Then I was tossed into the Earth, where I started hanging with bears and treated them like family. They were then killed off by Undead (my sworn foe) for unknown purposes. I loved this character.

[@crusader0074]

Rangers are by far my favorite class to play. Rangers in fiction (or those that are similar to Rangers) tend to be the most interesting characters. Strider/Aragorn, Drizzt, and Robin Hood (as close to a Ranger that you can find in the real world) are amazing characters.

[@eirei0789]

Same, and I was sad when I find the Ranger class in 5E to be sorely lacking. At least 3.5E Ranger did some unique things as a martial class. Did you know that 3E and I believe 5E Dritzz class are mainly in Fighter? That's how bad Ranger was on 5E release.

[@crusader0074]

@@eirei0789 I did not know that (didn’t play D&D back then).

[@SnowWolf9999]

The Ranger class was partially based off the real world Medieval forester, who were people typically in the Yowman social class that were very familiar with hunting and the wilderness, who signed on as mercenary archers/soldiers/law enforcement and during peace time acted as Game Wardens and Bounty Hunters , while during wartime were forward scouts for the lords army.

[@bannana422]

This was so accurate it was legitimately guilt inducing. i've had a couple good rangers. Their just too finicky though to make work often.

[@bannana422]

And now I'm trying to make myself feel better... Great. This IS guilt inducing. DAMN.

[@TheCoastalAVENGER]

playing my first ever campaign as a Drakewarden Ranger and I'm loving it! we're still pretty low level at 4 but I haven't had any trouble keeping up with my party members and being useful as I deal solid damage in the back while my lil dragon helps in the frontline. I've managed to get an incredible +8 chance to hit with my longbow so I barely ever miss lol

[@AshAngelV]

Poor guy. At least my roommate's ranger has a full sheet. Now we just have to wait for everyone else to create theirs...

[@vsGoliath96]

It's okay, Ranger, even with how shit you can be, you'll never be as bad as the vast majority of Monk subclasses.

[@akiramystic3596]

You trying to say something punk

[@vsGoliath96]

@@akiramystic3596 Have you seen the new Monk subclass from Fizbans? Talk about a kick in the nards.

[@akiramystic3596]

@@vsGoliath96 I played the unearthed arcana of ascendant dragon why wotc WHY!?

[@vsGoliath96]

@@akiramystic3596 The unearthed version was literally better in every way while not being broken. It was an almost perfect Monk subclass. Now you can get a more powerful breath weapon just by being a dragonborn, no class required. And to add insult to injury, it's in the book right next to a fucking dragon taming Ranger.

[@akiramystic3596]

At that point I'm just gonna use unearthed arcana version

[@jasonbrannock1698]

The ranger rocks!! It's my first character I ever played. I'll play it again,some day. My fighter is just too tough. Lol!!! J

[@intheftin2861]

I never went ranger, but mind if i borrow an arrow from ya? *Breaks arrow head off & uses as a toothpick* thanks :D

[@kratkartan1486]

Ranger is actually a decent class. I made one and he was a crazy Tabaxi, and legitimately thought the dungeon was his basement. Had lots of fun with his antics.

[@lunatic0verlord10]

At this rate, the final episode of the Character Sheet series will end on the player just throwing the Ranger's Character Sheet in the shredder or something like that.

[@bryankia]

This is literally the only video you have done that I did not like. You could have had a whole series of theses making fun of all the tropes. Just imagine you there hoping the player had Tasha’s and his disappointment at the selection of the original beast master. You are a gem and I still have nothing but love for you. And no, I am not the Turkey that gave you the thumbs down :).

[@christophermolloy4252]

I'm currently playing a level 6 character, 5 levels of Ranger (horizon walker) 1 level Fighter. He's a goblin with an animal companion, and man if I can say one thing about Rangers it's that they cover EVERYTHING. My guy has gotten through so much variety and they're so versatile that it's hard to imagine playing any other class. Would 100% recommend

[@Dfarrey]

My first D&D character was a dwarf ranger in 3.5e. Rangers will always have a special place in my heart, and I try to bring them to my table.

[@Random_Gamer-sh6pf]

I like how in the middle of making my Ranger i made another character. Also, i usually choose my name as the last part of my character

[@WildfireMagni]

The ranger in my group does fairly well. With polearm master, zephyr strike and colossus slayer, he slices, he dices and as a gnoll he gets an extra bite attack whenever he kills something, which is surprisingly often. Seen him tear off three faces that way.

[@heathersharo5294]

I’m playing a human fey wanderer ranger and I love it. It fit really well with my backstory of being switched with a changeling and being raised in the Fey Wild by wood elves. I love being able to Misty step too, that has saved me a time or two.

[@dogalolo]

I really thought this was going to be some kind of elaborate Strength Ranger joke

[@semolinaflour7420]

I had a variant human Ranger who absolutely slayed in archery but also had melee capabilities since I gave her that one feat. Our DM also introduced a bow that gives additional damage per consecutive hit so when she got multi-attack it was glorious. She is now retired with her husband and son. :)

[@scathachbeagbain6431]

My very first character I ever played in a dnd campaign was for a water deep campaign. She was a forest gnome (stealth and animal friends go brr) who lives inside an oversized wizard hat with hatches on the sides to put out gloves hands/canary/rat/food/items, strong tight like trousers sewn around the brim so the hat is completely sealed, and eye holes cut into it to help see. It stored all sorts of things and the bottom of it could be unzipped to reveal another, smaller hat underneath if she ever needed to free her arms for her bow or let out a larger animal or piece of kit or needed to wash (minor illusion spell is epic for small gnome). Her name was Catkin and she got away with so many things because of the utility hat to the point where she succeeded in charming the BBEG with her strange looks ("what is this.... odd item?") And he took her with him where the rest of the party helped in a half rescue, half stealthy assassination attempt because having a ranger on the inside was good. I have always wanted to go back and revisit her

[@owenhardy7035]

Fizban’s actually added a new very interesting subclass for the ranger that is worth checking out if you haven’t yet.

[@AntonNight]

My first Ranger became perhaps the deadliest member of a party which included a Paladin, a Rogue, a Warlock, a Wizard and a Monk. Even if she wasn’t getting the kill shots, she was tanking hits for the party and holding off several enemies at the same time. I later multiclassed her into Druid, but picked a subclass that basically was just ‘more Ranger spells and unarmored defence’. Ever seen a Lvl 7 character with an AC of 19 and the ability to parry, riposte or use Defensive Duelist as the situation demands? Best kill she had was on a red dragon.