IFBB Pro Ben Pakulski The OG Vacuum-Capable Mass Monster, Tren-Only Cycles, Life After Bodybuilding

[@Answeriz42]

54:27 Ben’s comments about insulin doing damage to the arterial walls, I would say it’s more chronically increased glucose which is doing the damage. Steve’s approach to it is rational and nuanced. Another way to think about it high glucose+FFA+insulin decreases insulin sensitivity (especially with low energy turnover/not enough exercise), which in turn is what causes increased glucose and free fatty acids in the blood, which then become oxidized and cause damage that way. On the other end, if you have low insulin, elevated glucose+FFAs from high cortisol/chronic stress/stimulants all increasing glucagon levels (I.e during extreme cutting) you will accumulate oxidative stress just as, if not more quickly as well. The effect of androgens and thyroid hormones put into the mix adds further nuance as well.

[@corneliusparkin2401]

Great point I agree. I love occasional pre pwo insulin use. My rule is I have to believe it’s good for me. I refuse to take things that are giving me health trade offs. For me once per week (at most) using it with a lot of hydration intra workout nutrition and a very long workout works really well for me. Again occasionally I see it like filling up the body rapidly. But one shot of slin can do a lot. It’s like this with most PEDS a small amount can be metabolism and health promoting. But we know what too much does and I mean too much for us individually.

[@corneliusparkin2401]

Why are people focusing on the external aka doses others are taking? The only thing that matters is. The drugs you’re currently taking are they health promoting? If not sure then do tests. Just never ever take drugs with the knowledge that you’re now damaging your health. Never voluntarily hurt your health because it doesn’t matter what drug or action it is that you’re taking. The problem is with your behavior because it’s self destructive. This is bodybuilding! What you’re doing is part mental illness. I have been there for a long time also. Only now can I see what a problem of a mindset that truly is.

[@camerongrant9356]

It’s a good day when Vigorous Steve goes live

[@Zionic4848]

@cam Maybe, but haven't seen him live this weekend. Was sick for Q&A. Hopefully a makeup day before next weekend

[@davidtopoleski5935]

Ben is one of the most intelligent coaches I’ve ever seen. And I’ve followed him since I started and copied his leg training. Now 2.5 years later I’m 80+ lbs heavier of lean muscle tissue. This guy is the GOAT!!! Cheers to both of most intelligent guys in the game!

[@The_Bearbarian]

Ben was one of the OGs that influenced how I programme even now. Been great seeing his evolution. His Mi40 was one of the first programs I followed and to this day is a big part of my own bodybuilding principles. Ben, Kai, Les Brown and Elliott Hulse are the 4 Horsemen as to why I'm still alive. Always grateful to have had them to look to whilst growing up. Im a better coach, father and man because of their influence.

[@flymofoisthebest3885]

BPAK ABSOLUTELY CHANGED MY LIFE THE MAN IS A GENIUS I HAVE WATCHED LITERALLY ALL HIS CONTENT MULTIPLE TIMES 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@NoName-vx6up]

Frig, Steve, those traps are huge.

[@curtislumsden1405]

Ben said in another interview that his first cycle was just a single bottle of Winstrol....now it's 500mg T and 3-400 EQ....

[@GG-wg1yh]

None of these dudes have any idea.

[@beckyberta5284]

I don't remember my first cycle. I just know a few of them.

[@BatmanBoss]

Ben is great. Excellent interview

[@shannonmonroe5873]

The Tren he did was called Finajet from France. Pretty sure 30mg a ml. 30ml. Standard protocol was 1ml 3x week.

[@shannonmonroe5873]

@ Parabolin came in amps 76.5 mg

[@TxStroke23]

I’ve heard about Ben but never actually watched or seen any of his content. Seems like a really solid guy! I enjoyed this a lot. Thanks Steve

[@BryanBlacio]

2 of the most knowledgeable individuals in this space, in 1 video 🤯🤯

[@chrisbell8418]

Ben is the best. Love him. He’s so knowledgeable and such a great person.

[@Andrea-xu6pj]

Great pod as always Steve! Still waiting for the one with Evan and Roman together!!!

[@kingocowata]

“Don’t make this into a KZbin video” Leaves it in 😂

[@Mikeyt2000]

He meant a clipped KZbin video just about that story. He didn’t want his name and a story that involves a stripper in the title of a video

[@jaredmuller171]

Wow this was great. Hopefully Ben Pak sees this, I watched the 2017 Arnold the other day and loved his commentary. He should go back to doing commentary for shows. There was the 2016 where Chad Nicholls Dave palumbo Ben Pakulski and dan Solomon did which was outstanding

[@EternallyGreat]

Didn't know you traded, that's fricking awesome!!

[@zelfreflectie5390]

Great talk, really enjoying this one!

[@stevobow]

Great video guys.. I could listen to you to talk weekly 🙌🏻🙌🏻

[@nicholasmuetzel8420]

Awesome interview! 👍🏻👍🏻

[@briancristina2890]

Thanks guys, this was great 👍🏽

[@wesbrinsfield9770]

Can’t wait for the peptides talk!

[@sabertomason1421]

Great to see ben i was following his training method in 2010 helps me a lot

[@wouterdesaedeleer5167]

Great conversation, 2 top dudes!

[@erikjoh6447]

This was a great conversation and you two had a great dynamic together. Would love more

[@Dark_252]

Great interview good choice for inviting Ben

[@martin116900]

Congrats on the pregnancy, Steve!

[@davidpenwell3432]

I had the same thing with my gut. When I was a kid I was fat. So when I started to weight train and diet as a kid I intentionally spent the majority of my day sucking in my lower stomach and vacuuming as much as possible. Then eventually when I got older I fell out of training. Over the years picking it up again I immediately started getting little power back tweaks. The only change over time was not focusing on sucking in my stomach all day and training abs. I became less aware of my core function and being able to control it. Boom.. lower back injury and distended stomach

[@jensr3254]

Great Podcast guest period

[@xazim94x]

Ben is the man. The OG science based bodybuilder to me

[@GGGoat28-pt5np]

"I'll make em all look small" best line ever

[@adamcatchesfish6148]

Ben sounds like John Travolta if you close your eyes.

[@corneliusparkin2401]

Oh I am a huge Pak fan. Awesome!!!

[@Kalebsweeten]

Great content as usual Steve. Gonna be ripping that mitochondrial stack for my next prep. The fatigue/tren brain last year had me so miserable lol

[@user-J250]

This is exciting!

[@zacharooni76]

great chat, ben is a beauty

[@Vicious-fitness]

Steve do you have any carbohydrates around training? Or just a refeed at the end of the week on your keto diet

[@AntSantobello]

I’ll leave this comment for the 3rd times for you Steve. I HAVE THE ORIGINAL PAPER BOTH SIDES OF PARABOLAN! Of course I can’t read it, let me know how to get it to you.

[@VigorousSteve]

please email them to me brother; [e-mail]

[@user-J250]

It’s interesting when you said your test levels were the same on hCG vs testosterone but you looked and felt better on testosterone. I think this is also why you can have high IGF and GH levels from generics but with the same readings (or even less) on pharma GH you will look and feel much different.

[@justbeige7787]

Great pod! Two handsome bald men chopping it up

[@wolf6759]

Never heard of Cytadrin? Can someone explain what it is?

[@fihimsadiq8779]

anyone remember the Pakulski Bench made by watson

[@micahgill7272]

I never used much but I lost all my size since retiring-ben

[@Kikwatz]

Maybe really a hyperresponder.

[@PaintDryLifting]

Guy who blew his kidneys out in this 30s might not be telling the truth about what he actually did? And Steve indulging another lying BBer? Shocking

[@Sk1pperCS]

Hi!, just curious how you became so knowledgeable? I’m currently studying general physiology 40-60 mins daily. Curious as to your unbringing. What got you interested? What resources did you learn from? Kind of tough to guide through stuff without formal education.

[@brianpulley8652]

To hear these guys talking about every PED they've used is crazy and here i am at 52 having to fight my doctor to just put me on regular TRT lol.

[@Joe_Lifts_37]

Get a new doctor that understands.

[@brianpulley8652]

@Joe_Lifts_37 trust me I'm own it.

[@erclsr]

Then do it without a doctor

[@brianpulley8652]

@@Joe_Lifts_37 trust me I'm trying.

[@TRAPSQUAD187]

I could probably help you out you in America?

[@autoimmune-barbell]

Dude is a crazy hyper responder

[@soa-marco2139]

Quick question: do you guys think Test Enanthat in grape + mct oil is suitable for every three days inj. ?

[@niceguy4928]

What’s up with the frequent compound changes?

[@marcodigiovanni470]

Vigorous daddy!! ❤

[@TrojiteQ]

Cytradren is Aminoglathethimide and you can still buy it form china.

[@testxer]

Damn, Vig looking freakin' jacked!!

[@stu_gahtz1740]

21:20 most of the time its a thin line to walk between Ego and Insecurity anyways

[@natividadbeltran9312]

Ima comment before watching the video fuckn dope af !

[@nicholaspookia9985]

Microdose of everything life quality over Risk. 😮

[@EternallyGreat]

Maybe even make some videos on your trading in the future then!

[@gymtuppernation4703]

Big fan of both you guys!! How come Ben keeps saying “molecules” ? Genuine question.

[@jessebrown1400]

Ben was one of the first guys to really put out the advanced training material, always appreciated that, it gave me a good lifting-theory to draw from.

[@hummelperformance]

M140 still kicks ass.

[@jeremycarnley7001]

I'm on eq ATM and I'm having trouble finding test or anything other please somebody msg me usd

[@Benjaqu]

Didn't the last time you invited him on turn out to be a bad experience and you said to never have him on again? Or did the tren induced neurotoxicity begin deteriorating my memory

[@ThinkTwice2222]

Would love to see an anti-fertility stack... Done having kids and don't want a vasectomy.... So....

[@scottcauley6862]

All the tren!

[@zelfreflectie5390]

S23 and MENT

[@Bodybuilderthatgames]

Hmg during pct? Yes/no/possible? Just a quick answere please

[@ruebenbaca6301]

👋

[@Mikaeel84]

💪😎👍

[@Npc10010]

Ben still exists? 😂

[@Blacked.Hippie]

Eating 175g of chicken with salad. Gonna throw in 100g of chocolate cereal for desert 📈

[@Kikwatz]

No wayyyyyy 😲

[@PhreeX0707]

Well... that cycle of his just doesn't make sense at all. 🤣🤣🤣

[@limardiyev343]

Maybe because it's fake...

[@bloodyshrapnel2119]

95 lbs to 225? Yeah bullshit.

[@MegaShiney99]

I mean it’s just not is it mate. Not hard to do that if you’re 95lbs

[@bloodyshrapnel2119]

@MegaShiney99 he said his skull crusher workout weight increased from 95 to 225 in 2 weeks. That's bullshit.

[@bloodyshrapnel2119]

The only way that happens is if you were just jerking around to begin with.

[@beckyberta5284]

@@bloodyshrapnel2119More context is needed. He probably went from 95's for 12-15 to 225 for 6-8. That's very believable for a good responder to tren.

[@carltonbanks4312]

Looking huge steve

[@KingIvanGil]

I learned everything I know about training from Ben