PEPTIDES RANKED! Growth Hormone, IGF-1, Insulin, BPC-157, TB-500, Mots-C, MK-677, Follistatin, Etc

[@DavidHernandez-yb5pz]

My sister has EDS (connective tissue problems) and she was never able to workout. She started taking BPC-157 and TB500 every other day and she's been working out consistently for over a year now with relatively no issues. Just some anecdotal evidence. Happy she found something.

[@Lydia_Grimhood]

Thank you for sharing this anecdote, there’s been a number of EDS clients I’ve worked with over the years that I figured could benefit from these peptides, but hadn’t seen any anecdotes directly from those with EDS variations. Theoretically, GHK-Cu should also be of benefit and diluting it with BPC-157 eliminates the post injection pain.

[@DavidHernandez-yb5pz]

@@Lydia_Grimhood I think GHK-CU could definitely be worth a shot alongside the other two. Especially for more severe cases. In those scenarios one might even argue throwing in a slightly above HRT dose of HGH as well and a hydrolyzed collagen complex.

[@michaelcarter3149]

My ex had type 3, was brutal. Wish I would have known about bpc back then.

[@MiDy07]

I have used Retatrutide for weight loss and lost 10kg in a month, but makes my blood pressure really low. I’m losing weight for my kidney surgery. Now I’m really wondering if BPC157 and TB500 would be good for post surgery healing?

[@markharvey1843]

I'd prob toss in some ghk some mk or some hgh. I'd look into supplementing with copper and lysine. I'd also keep tabs on cancer markers due to this stack and possibly include some cordyceps, turkey tail mushroom, and possibly cycle some sr 9009 for preventative measures but I'd look into potential risks between the Sr and medical condition first.

[@rahulgambhir8030]

really Happy Steve Channel Is back ❤ He spent a lot of hard work for us by reading medical literature and making videos on it and sharing free knowledge of PEDs and Peptides ❤

[@JakeDenning]

Good to see you back on YT, Steve! I’m looking for some reputable/safe resources for Anavar, etc.

[@JasonCsokrates]

3 bold man, 1 passion. That should be the name of the podcast lol.

[@marcusaurelius8491]

cycle,nutrition and training design from beginner to olympia is the way to go. cant wait for u guys to drop that video.

[@MVMV1433]

Great podcast, thank you guys ! Would love to see an Anabolic Roundtable discussing TRT, HRT, diet, training etc for “non bodybuilders “ and guys in their 30’s, 40’s, 50’s etc

[@Eatsleeptrain3232]

I love these videos so much. Sometimes i have to go back and listen again to make sure i picked up on all the info. Awesome content guys!

[@dinhhoang1210]

Hi Steve, want to let you know that your videos have literally saved my life over the past 2 years. It is a really long story so I'm afraid a KZbin comment won't be enough to cover it. Just know you are doing god's work for the bodybuilding industry worldwide. Best of luck for you and your family. LOVE from Vietnam. oh, and can you please make your old live videos public. I really need to watch some of it again.

[@dinhhoang1210]

Hi Steve, I am starting my first HGH cycle in a few days, and I'm sharing the fridge with my roommates. Can I put unreconstituted HGH in the freezer ~(-10C )?

[@richardwitherell2343]

Love seeing discussion like this, especially the debunking of some newer beliefs based on studies that don't paint the whole picture

[@miladzadeh]

Kurt is so knowledgeable, I can listen to him all day

[@joelsweeney8595]

This whole podcast is complete S tier!!!

[@HeritageCast]

Love you see you guys do a video on the latest developments in AAS and SARMs. Has there even been any advancement at all? Def worth it especially from Dr Deans expertise...

[@bevnae]

The level of knowledge shared here is absolutely unparalleled. So glad to have you back. Sometimes it’s good to have things taken away to realise how valuable they are 🙏 ❤

[@aldolorenzone]

Glad to see you back in yt Steve!

[@RandyMarsh2211]

Best Trio on the internet!

[@leechild4]

These roundtables are amazing and I am always going back to relisten and update my notes and knowledge. Looking forward to the beginner to pro cycles training lifestyle session you mentioned Steve!

[@lollipopman1001]

Love the info and opinions from these round tables! All fucking legends!!

[@edlarryrodriguez598]

Great video, appreciate the insight on trending peptides. I am convinced now BPC-157 and TB-500 are worth experimenting with.

[@darqueleau]

Thank you for this - I just started implementing GH last week after years of Blast & Cruise and it's good to have the reconfirmation on dosing protocols and what to look out for heading down the road - I was going to experiment with AM + PM dosing but instead I'll stick to before bed & rest easy knowing I'm not missing out. Happy holidays

[@jojack1273]

Listened to every min of this one n loved it great vid guys flowed well

[@joshm684]

Welcome back!

[@myles3898]

Nice to see Steve big, happy and androgenic. I was just rewatching bio bros and you’ve come a long way since that damn NAFLD.

[@SonnyWatts-pw5ii]

I run BPC-157 year round and only add in TB500 when a bad injury pops up. I feel the recovery time while on BPC157 is much faster, muscle soreness and overall feeling is great.

[@einsteinx2]

I’m using the BCP/TB combo now for the first time to heal up a pec tendon injury where it connects to the shoulder. A year of doing rehab exercises and it barely got better, 3 weeks on that combo and it’s almost 100% again. Like magic. I’m considering staying on BPC year round after I finish 3 months of BPC/TB together. I’m curious to hear what your dose is for year round use? And I guess for completeness, what’s your dosing when you use the combo?

[@SonnyWatts-pw5ii]

@einsteinx2 when running both for serious injuries, I run Bpc 250mcg 2x per day Tb500 2.5mg 3x per week For small strains I just use a mixture 5mg/5mg - bpc157 250mcg ,tb500 0.25mg 2x per day Year around with just BPC157 I run 250mcg daily.

[@SonnyWatts-pw5ii]

@@einsteinx2 it was a life saver for my peck and shoulder injury, 4 months physio done nothing then 6 weeks on bpc & tb and I was back benching heavy again

[@einsteinx2]

@@SonnyWatts-pw5iiyep same story from my side! What was your dosing protocol? I’m taking 350mcg of each in a single shot nightly, injected into my upper pec though not sure if that makes any actual difference. Only 3 weeks in and I’m able to go deep on bench again without pain. Wild how well it works!

[@einsteinx2]

Oh and also nagging golfers elbow I’ve had for a year that was very slowly getting better has massively improved, same with some patellar tendinitis I get on and off (been all off since starting). That’s why I’m thinking about staying on BCP year round, I have the worst tendons and pushing 40 now so it’s getting worse every year…

[@jkbjezza]

Algo for thr horsemen of anabolic knowledge! That breakdown for the next roundtable would be absolutel legendary, not only for beginners but the elite! Gonna be fun seeing our special guest with his love for masteron for massing vs Kurt and his tren adrol love lol

[@travv88]

Looking forward to the fat burner one. I'm about to try SLU-PP-332.

[@zenn4752]

GHK cu my favorite peptide. Ive always had acne but when I started using it, my skin finally cleared up, have seen amazing results with hair as well. I get questions about my skincare and I have none. Also some studies also talk about ghk cu positives on brain health. The only peptide I run year round

[@Liam-i8f]

What dose u running?

[@donmauro8123]

welcome back!!!!

[@NobotyBoi]

Back at it

[@AlfaRomeoVolante]

There are some new evidence that BPC 157 in various forms has various benefits, such as the nazal spray form has shown it slows and even reverses some neurological damage in the brain, like the oral variant shows it heals the digestion issues. This and thymosin alpha 1 show a lot of potential.

[@gabrielpelletier6140]

Waiting for a vigorous Steve video the gains have never been so good

[@vejito11]

I've been recommended the channel multiple times. Click into this from my front page 🥳

[@Joe_Lifts_37]

Here for the Algorithmic Gainz 💪 💪 💪

[@MG-qh6wr]

You should do a deep dive on the difference between the Secretagogues. Hexarelin is said to be much more powerfull in terms of bodyrecomp and Tesamorelin for fat loss. Would be nice to see a comparison in IGF1 and GH levels and just your N=1 experience as there might be some direct effects outside of the GH and IGF 1 increases

[@jordixboy]

i only use test/hcg and some proviron here and there but this will be a banger for sure!

[@chaselewis100]

@@jordixboy ignorant to proviron but what benefits have you seen from that compound

[@fictionforge455]

Would love a deeper dive on caloric restriction increments, and growing in a deficit, maybe some cookie cutter formulas? Cool idea for a vid.

[@DeepakRJoshi]

Bro can we use clonidine instead of telmesartan? In studies it has shown increase in gh production too..

[@MSAli86]

Brilliant video, I appreciate this is skewed towards bodybuilding. Could you do a similar video with longevity & vitality in mind?

[@Marx1963]

Thanks for the info Nice timing - just started Jinotropin w/ test & primo

[@Shrededbeef]

Love these series

[@margaret_rejnowska]

1:21 What dosage of oral BPC-157 does Dean recommend for someone with leaky gut/IBS symptoms? Also, would you take it with KPV, PEA and Tributyrin?

[@ryangulley2051]

Didnt help mine and i did tb 500 to

[@ryangulley2051]

Im trying kpv next

[@Kooreyyy]

Very informative, thanks as always for your input

[@TrojiteQ]

I think you missed few componds that in my opion are anabolic. For example Oxytocin (upregulates EGF) and Dihexia via HGF pathyway.

[@kylerboucher4136]

Go on Dr Dean 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@draxinavd1711]

Yooo his channel is back!

[@SneakNStitch-Qc]

Mechanism of Action FOXO4 normally binds p53 In senescent cells, FOXO4 binds to p53, sequestering it in the nucleus. This prevents p53 from initiating apoptosis, keeping senescent cells alive. FOXO4-DRI disrupts FOXO4-p53 binding FOXO4-DRI competitively inhibits FOXO4’s interaction with p53. This releases p53 and allows it to translocate to the mitochondria. p53 induces apoptosis Freed p53 triggers mitochondrial dysfunction, leading to activation of caspases and programmed cell death. This selectively kills senescent cells while sparing healthy cells.

[@bowtieless]

Had to search the Channel, then actually had to click podcast to find this episode. Didn't just pop up in my feed or in your "videos" tab. Monday morning, says posted 2 days ago. And only 21 views. They got you hiding way in the back ground

[@VigorousSteve]

Its not even supposed to be live yet dude

[@bowtieless]

But I was for sure watching it! Then like a dummy closed KZbin to do something.... now I can't watch it until noon😂 Glad to have you back! Thanks for all you do!

[@Noah-hq5rs]

Yea, this was on my feed. And the last live stream, too.

[@niccodemarini7480]

@@VigorousSteveWe need all your information in a book or pdf in case the world ends and we have to rebuild or I just need to survive the apocalypse jacked 😂

[@Douggydrealer]

In my feed and suggested to me. Guy that posted original comments problem goes deeper than KZbin feed 😂

[@jeffportnoy3863]

Was this video filmed before Steve started YK-11. Thought he found it effective?

[@gametheoryoptimal8177]

Wish you guys did semaglutide, tirzepatide, and Retatrutide!

[@ryangulley2051]

@@gametheoryoptimal8177 i give it to my wife and my mother takes it

[@Crypto-G]

Fat burner video please ASAP!! We want to be shredded not big lol. Great video!

[@1xavi2]

so stim fat burner stack dropped last month

[@SamuelMojica-vw5nr]

learn how to diet then tubby

[@nickadz5490]

O yea We live live !

[@KamilW-iu4kw]

Hi, i have question i have problem. I am on trt, 150mg , i feel a lot of low dht symptoms like no body hair, no agression, low libido etc, i tested my dht and its 130- 850 result; 390, is any drug to boost it without proviron because i feel bad on it because of shbg lowering.

[@mattmason4589]

150 migs is irrelevant with out given us the range that puts in an what levels your Free T is at. Increasing Injection frequency usually improves this. Lot guys have good results on compounded testosterone cream for improving these numbers, something to with 5 alpha reductase I believe

[@mhale0369]

Where is the best place to get bpc157 and tb500 if you live in the USA.

[@LakeB707]

Best way to start the week 🎉🎉🎉 #VigorousSteveMatters

[@markh1821]

Seminar on maximum supplementation as a natural sounds very interesting 🧐

[@Michael_Komansky2679]

Amazing...how I'd this free.. your collective brain power and unique experiences are invaluable Thanks fellas 👌 cheers from Boston and

[@alan_mc13]

Generic gh and mk677 are definitely not equal tier not sure why you are in agreement on this one

[@seanhannam8872]

100% agree with you on this. Generic should go right below pharma imo. Have done both for long periods and not noticed too much difference. Mk677 is trash.

[@ryangulley2051]

​@@seanhannam8872yes mk 677 is garbage

[@lanceislandelite]

a bit off topic but is it okay ro stack methylene blue with pramipexole

[@Luke-vj3qn]

this video broke my little heart but is going to save me a lot of money. Really happy your channel is back up. Side question: Do you think that 2.5-5mg of AC262 a day could work for a trt+ protocol?

[@gabrielecapogrosso2765]

Hello Steve, you speak about increlex the pharma igf1 but as i know there is in another pharmaceutical company that produce it and is called Somazon by Orphanpacific, If I dont get wrong is like a 10mg vial and is pharmaceutical Mecasermine so like increlex, do you ever heard about this? The price maybe is gonna be lower but of course as is in the Asia market maybe you have seen?

[@ericquinones1754]

What are names of the pharma Growth Hormones?

[@probodysolution]

Serostim, Genotropin Pfizer for example

[@joeyb4325]

Any word on an Anadrol deep dive? That would be awesome!

[@ImportaSuplementosHD]

This is the first time I heard that SC GH have a better absortion than IM, because the studies that compare both injections shows respectly better absortion to IV, than IM and by far less in SC. There's any new study showing this affirmation?

[@MotivationAdonis]

The half life is much less because it gets broken down quickly IM and IV.

[@zigzag8162]

Steve, when you talking about melatonin stimulating GH production, was your dose 30 Grams or 30 Milligrams? Thanks

[@sagarchengappa6392]

Using test e, npp, primo in a 16 week cycle. But in last 4 weeks removing npp and adding tren will this combination work good?

[@superricky842]

Hey, big fan of the podcastYou said about the hgh that pharma wayy better is than generic hgh. Wich pharma because i can get omnitrope sandoz (15mg/1,5ml) bit is that a good quality pharma you mean with S tier ? I am from Holland btw 💪🏽

[@eaCh2th3iRoWn]

With women, at what iU HGH would you expect muscle growth? Same as the men? 3iU was discussed as more cosmetic enhancements but don’t think I heard about muscle building doses.

[@HeritageCast]

Number one if your pituitary functions then you really don't need real GH (genotropin, somatropin). So you need lab work, IGF1, Glucagon Stimulation test, MRI pituitary. If it functions then just use GH releasing peptides. The idea here is you want to preserve function. Youll get more out of compounded testosterone cream, bioidentical estrodial and progesterone than GH. REachout to Dr Newson in UK.

[@tykemo69]

What about Tesamorelin?.. it’s actually FDA approved

[@koa.diesel]

i know a lot of mass monsters that strictly use generic hgh.. it should be placed higher.. it still works

[@stunnaman9]

I use generics and I've used mk677. Generics work great. I didn't notice anything from mk except hunger

[@koa.diesel]

@ mk is trash

[@mikep932]

Generics are great IMO 💪 😎 👍

[@joshm684]

Putting quality generic GH on the same tier as MK is outrageous

[@JoshuaKevinPerry]

it's very sus.

[@joshm684]

@ I love steve, and I could see pharm S generic a or b tier, but no one in their right mind would ever say mk and gh and interchangeable bc they’re on the same level.

[@MegaShiney99]

Agreed i just dont agree at all, but they are very smart so not mad about it lol

[@Shilock9]

Especially since janoshik claims ugl routinely tests just as good or higher than pharma kzbin.info/www/bejne/l2PKhamNqLqFkMksi=hG0a-Kso29yH1tAK

[@stunnaman9]

@@joshm684 it's bs!

[@trademon1]

Do you agree GLP1's can replace Slin in a stack? Once appetite supression stalls and you can suppement it low enough for effects in a bulk? Paul and Chase talk about this

[@HeritageCast]

It slows down digestion. Why would you want to slow digestion and risk GI damage? In the words of Rich Piana "Just eat real food ". This also assumes that you need to eat 1000 carbs and that you dont fast, along with you dont do cardio and that supposed slow relase of insulin is a good thing. GLP1 has alot of assumptions that are dangerous.

[@rydoes1225]

I started leveraging a larger amount of HGH this prep compared to others, and at only 6IU it trashed my sleep beyond reason.. Ironic, as at 2IU I had good sleep, and GH is supposed to improve your sleep at any dose. I'm still seeing significantly greater rates of fat loss than I have in previous caloric deficits, with similar food, activity and anabolics.

[@ChristopherMundahl]

is that still a safe level to not grow your heart?

[@rydoes1225]

@ChristopherMundahl It probably varies person to person. I would say if Steve is happy to recommend the maximum effective dose of GH @ 18IU, then anything below is probably safe.

[@ChristopherMundahl]

@rydoes1225 I've been thinking 4IU, not sure about pharma grade vs UGL. Maybe 6IU now but the heart and enlarged gut thing worries me slightly. I had just started 20mg Oxandrolone sublingually for 2 weeks and can already tell a difference. I've tried tesa/ipa and didn't really notice anything.

[@rydoes1225]

@ChristopherMundahl 4IU seems to be enough that you'll be a ove replacement therapy doses. 2IU never seemed to do much for me beyond improved sleep, and even then, if I hadn't have been paying attention, I may not have noticed.

[@majesticuncasual186]

Can't praise these three enough.

[@charlessinclair4846]

Hey mate, I took citrus bergamot and Astralagus extract and test e for 12 weeks and it caused extreme neurological insomnia 4 months after Have you heard of this happening

[@croc203718]

Hey Steve can u do a video on how ppl who have type 2 diabetes can add mass. What peds should I take along with my Lantus. Thanks bro

[@tomthomas3235]

Dear Steve, I have a doubt. do we have short acting growth hormone that can help with polyphasic sleeping schedule? 🤔

[@Streamlinestructures]

That epo stuff scares me. I always wonder if that played a role in Dallas mccarvers passing

[@tube.perfect]

Ghk-cu is helpful for those on TRT with increasing Ferritin levels 😉. Learned this from a head Nurse at Red Cross blood bank.

[@chrisbell8418]

I really love hearing Dean say he takes PEDs then walks the kids to school. Reminds me of my brother Mark. 😂

[@MaryKlein-hp9du]

Which small pharma company is making the mk677? Stock opportunity? Please s

[@timorcutt278]

Please do the video about food!

[@koa.diesel]

EPO increases satellite cells.. thats probably the most beneficial thing it does… yall really missed that

[@ThinkTwice2222]

48:00 the igf1 was in the muscle..not the blood

[@hakarlrs9817]

another banger of a vid

[@nexave7972]

Steve, a question whether it is a feasible combination in your opinion to have a professional/academic carreer and do bodybuilding next to it!

[@user-J250]

If you do the one meal per day diet and have your meal at night (say 2500cals) are you doing more harm by shooting your GH dose (2-3iu) before bed vs not using any Gh at all?

[@MaryKlein-hp9du]

What website do you guys order HGH from?

[@johannponpon5347]

Question : is it safe to use expired pharmaceutical reconstituted gh being stored in a fridge? Thanks

[@Brofessor17]

Yea my disks l4 l5 are bugging me. Goin to 2iu mon-Friday

[@liltimmah]

Thanks for the awesome info

[@Anabolic_edge]

Agree MK677 is no way comparable to decent generic hgh. No where near close from experience.

[@Nordensmann]

Would be nice to see "anabolic round table" about SARM's. What do You think guys? 😊

[@VigorousSteve]

All F-Tier besides YK-11 XD

[@Corbots80]

Why would my ULG be running out of steroids exactly?

[@decadicc]

I heard the Chinese gov are cracking down on drug exports I’m not sure if that’s what they are referring to though

[@lamk9729]

@@decadicc yes

[@briandazio4833]

China already cracked down on oils and tabs at end of October, stocks are now running low, and nobody knows if or when they can ship out of country. The Chinese recently made it illegal. 🤷‍♂️ that's first hand info from my supplier in China.

[@paulhewson6302]

This testoviron shortage is world wide or country specific?

[@kevykevkevkev]

This is very very useful.

[@Leonardo-wl6pu]

Hey Steve, you always say that enclomiphene causes blood clots: what if one uses 10-20mg aspirin daily?

[@mattmason4589]

Still a risk not worth tankin

[@briedcan]

Yesterday I heard Chase say that he uses it daily. It was in his arm, tirz, reta video.

[@nietsnut3894]

Vol verwachting klopt ons hart...

[@dblazz347]

Does anybody have more information on the shortage theme?

[@Anon.G]

I'm assuming it's a Chinese supply chain issue

[@DBTUNED-CT]

Possibly a raw shortage in Chyna But I could be wrong

[@airdolphin]

Hit that 👍’s up for the stream

[@hrithik4515]

Hey doc, your subscriber and your student from india. Greetings. Seeking your reply on this subject. Im 26, 5’7 65kg. 7 yrs training experience. Know how to manage nutrition. And have fair muscle quality for this weight. I want to start my first T only cycle and as advised by you did the blood work prior. Want to know your advise to what dose i should start with and when to increase. I have T Enanthate in my hand. From ugl. Will use 27g 1/2 in delts and 1-1.5 in glutes. My blood work- Total T- 615 ng/dl Free T- 23.0399 pg/ml E2- 30.231 pg/ml Shbg- 38.2 nmol/L DHT-269. Luteinizing hormone (LH) 7.66 FSH 1.36 Prolactin 7.4 LH-FSH Ratio 5.63 FSH-LH Ratio 0.18 It would joy me if you give your 2 cents