IFLIGHT DEFENDER 25 - FULL SETUP AND TEST FLIGHTS - BETTER THAN THE AVATA?

[@justmedi]

Anyone here having this issue with binding in defender 25? I have done activing and upgrading, the bind buttom doesn't work. There is no red light, no blinking red light, even if i hold the bind button nothing happens? Air unit powered through battery while binding. Please help :( The latest firmware V01.02.0000.

[@justmedi]

Nvm I fixed because The O3 unit wasn’t on. There should be a green led right that turns red, I had to connect to Betaflight and go to modes, scroll down to the bottom and find the User 1 & user2 and add a range.

[@andykirby]

Yeah this 👆🏼

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

Did you get take off I got it dialed in on beta flight i believe I just can’t get it to take off 😢

[@fabianwanne]

@@justmedi i dont know how to add a range and what range... Can you help please? :'(

[@faizlightcatch]

​@@fabianwanne have you solve this issue?

[@andyp.4205]

Really great explanation. Think I will pass the Avata and go with Iflight. Just subbed. Thanks. Big thank you from New York State.

[@brandon9689]

Same here, I've been looking at the Avata for months now. It didn't take long to realize that it's not really a respected FPV drone. Plenty of people make them fall out of the sky trying to do basic freestyle maneuvers or hard turns. I can buy this package with three batteries for $300 cheaper and not have a fear of outgrowing the Avata in a few months of learning. I already own a Mini 4 pro, so I'm pretty sure I could also bind the goggles to use with that as well which might be fun too.

[@twrmoor]

I'm intrigued with the Defender 25 especially as I already have an Avata, looking forward to future videos about this product.

[@FPVCINEMATIC4K]

Hey mate very interesting drone i have the dji fpv goggles and controller but does the GPS work like the dji fpv where you cant fly in authorsation zones ? thanks mate

[@AZ-FPV]

Do the standard DJI ND filters fit on that camera (it know it’s the same - but sometimes the way it is mounted does not leave space for the filters). Thanks for your review 🤙

[@maximumdrone5334]

I love your thorough explanation on how to start from scratch on this drone. It really helps me through the whole process when I'll get mine. Safe flights and have fun! Cheers from Montreal!

[@andykirby]

Glad you found it useful 😁👍🏼 cheers!

[@deltatango3653]

Thanks for the great review! Speaking as a long time DJI pilot, I'm wondering if it has the same RTH functions that I rely on, low battery and lost connection failsafes that are so nice with DJI, both FPV and camera drones. Also, I wonder if you can also use the DJI goggles V2?

[@Carboneye7]

The Chinese stole from themselves for once!

[@EnglishTurbines]

You can't copy the wheel..😏🇬🇧

[@Nine_883]

Hahaha. They do that all of the time in this hobby man! All of the time!

[@Nine_883]

I bet it flies better, but I will need that standard Remote ID for part 107 work.

[@rzechs]

LOL, so u guys are from the United Kingdom of Robbers.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Just visit your museum and admit u r sons of robbers.

[@djhype1983]

Lmfaoooo

[@captainbritain6737]

Yyeeeee, I did this via ELRS - loads easier and more complicated at the same time! Bound really easy though once done and armed straight away.

[@almaclang]

I'm starting to develop an interest in FPV, and this video is very informative. Thank you for sharing. I have liked and subscribed. 👍😊

[@NorthEastFPV]

i was expecting this to be a lot cheaper than the Avata , wow £494 that's harsh , for the same money i think the Avata is the better option for close proximity fun flying , Then 5' for freestyle or anything else, Yep it is a nice little bind and fly but way overpriced , Interested did you buy it or get it for review

[@andykirby]

It is expensive. I bought it for my channel to do the review. "Business expense" 😁

[@kumardeepam]

Great to see fpv becoming sleeker and more polished and professional looking!

[@Mike-H_UK]

Great video. Impressibvely precise control considering you've only had it for less than a day! Many thanks.

[@oddeman3489]

we boys and our toys, i love it.

[@LoosingMyAir]

Great review, I'm looking at buying the defender 25 and I think you may have made my mind up to purchase one . Good job 👍

[@uasflightops3410]

Thanks for the video im using ddi goggles 3 and rc 3 but find the inputs tiny would you share your rates? cheers

[@PhillyDroneLife]

Loved your review mate.. I've been looking at this drone for a little.. thx for the review.. Mikey

[@andykirby]

Thanks mate👍🏼 glad you liked it.

[@brandon9689]

I'm reading specs on the IFlight website. It has Ascent and decent speeds for normal and sport mode as well as manual mode? Does this have a traditional normal and sport mode as well? Or is this strictly a manual mode only flyer?

[@EnglishTurbines]

IFlight do make some nicely engineered stuff, you're right. That moulded battery makes no sense though...just a way to lock you in to their batteries....The props on it are cruiser props, low amp draw, not for aerobatics really...Not enough pitch on them. This is why you can't pull out of low loops...lol...👍😏😏😀🇬🇧

[@jc.cantrell]

I think the battery makes sense from a total design perspective. I've also seen several posts of people showing it is very easy to fly it with a standard 4s lipo.

[@EnglishTurbines]

@@jc.cantrell From a design perspective it looks neat and pretty and clips in place..From a cost perspective it's expensive and heavy and weight on these type of quads is always an issue...😏😳

[@jc.cantrell]

@@EnglishTurbines We agree that it looks neat, and clips in place. From a cost perspective, the iFlight price for the Defender25 900 mah battery is $23 (USD) [price check 22Jan23] and it weighs 100g according to the scale on my desk. I just checked AMAZON, and they list a comparable TATTU 850 mah 4s for $22.44 (USD) [I have many of these in my LiPo collection; price check 21JAN22], and it weighs 99g according to the scale on my desk. I agree weight makes a difference - but, I am uncertain that 1gram of battery weight is worth arguing one way or the other.....and as I did not include the weight of a battery strap (or TPU holder) with the alternate battery, I am uncertain there would be any weight savings. [Full disclosure - I did not check the weight of the 450 mah batteries - so, I am willing to concede the weight discussion.] Thank you for your review -- well done.

[@ollie_fpv]

Great video! Planning to get back into fpv after a few years away from it. I've already got my DJI fpv controller 2. If I was to order one of these with the crossfire unit is it easy to switch between transmitters if i decide to buy a crossfire transmitter later? Thanks!

[@andykirby]

Yes I think it's possible just by changing the receiver settings in betaflight.

[@DronesplayerNews]

How long could it fly for each battery?

[@netwrkspider]

Could you please confirm the First Gyro settings? is it CW 90 or CW 90 flip?

[@onuremiroglux]

Hey! Thanks for your video and i have 1 question.. Lets say at %20 throttle my drone moving to the left not or backwards and i checked drone calibrate also remote controller.. so it is not stable it must be relate with betaflight settings but can't figure out , how can i fix this do u have any idea about this? Thanks for ur answer from now!

[@peteantonio1601]

this defender has return home, gps, choice of modes like normal, sport, or manual? im a newbie, so this options for me is a must.

[@taylorsukoshi6126]

It does with the latest upgrade available now.

[@heartpilotOB]

Most BNF CRSF Nano RX are in binding mode on first power up. All you need to do is put TX on binding mode. Great content.

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

Do vi need to change the channel map if i am. using the dji controller 2 and fpv goggles?

[@buckmanriver]

Did you figure out how to map the channels? I am trying to figure that out as well. Specifically, I am trying to figure out how to map the camera button.

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

@@buckmanriver yeah in betaflight not sure how it’s been awhile but you can map all the buttons

[@chrisnrs354]

quick question mate, if i purchase a crossfire version will i still be able to use the DJI controller or would it strictly be crossfire compatible, reason being on the site it says "No additional receiver, I use DJI FPV Remote Controller 2 " so it makes it seem like nothing extra is required

[@andykirby]

This is a good question, the o3 is wired in so it will work with the DJI controller but you will need to change some settings in the ports and the reciever tab of betaflight and follow instructions to setup the DJI remote with the o3.

[@chrisnrs354]

@@andykirby ahh that is quite interesting, Cheers mate I appreciate your time, that would make a great video for the channel if you would make one on the matter. I have yet to see any on the topic, considering all the Bugs and issues surrounding the 03 and DJI controller 2 , I think i will purchase a crossfire version even though i do not own a crossfire radio at the moment but after the tango2 pro re stocks it will likely be the new daily driver!

[@nickbrown6694]

You can use the DJI controller because the 04 air unit has a built in receiver. To use crossfire, you have to add a receiver to the air unit.....it's easy, but necessary to use any other radio controller

[@tiwidub8809]

Much much better than the Avata. It can definitely freestyle. Good video. Thanks for it.

[@buckmanriver]

Yesterday my Defender 20 with 900mhz ELRS came back from repair with a functional 900mhz ELRS. The last one did not work. It will bind and fly. However, the camera is not mapped to the Commando 8 controller. Is there a resource or KZbin film you guys could point me to that outlines how to map the Commando 8 camera buttons to the DJI camera that is on board my Defender 20? Thanks, ~ B

[@skyracer85]

What charger do you use

[@fpvfun4036]

Looks like a lot of fun

[@andykirby]

Yeah, mini/micro quads are a lot of fun!

[@Dave64track]

Great review this drone looks like a really good piece of kit.

[@Wild__FPV]

Kindly inform me whether the Home point is visible during Goggles flight. Given the absence of GPS, it remains uncertain if this feature is accessible. Additionally, could you confirm the accuracy of the information stating that it cannot operate beyond a distance of 200 meters?

[@RoydenWakefield]

I just got one, gps is now installed on all 25's after May this year. I haven't set it up yet, im not sure if you will get a visible home marker or not.

[@Wild__FPV]

@@RoydenWakefield Ok, thanks man

[@jeffatkins8103]

By the time you add goggles and radio the cost would be more than the Avata. No gimbal? Avata any day.

[@igorgoga7985]

when you arm it, props start spinning, is it supposed to be like that?-sorry, new

[@andykirby]

Yes when you arm a Quadcopter the motors will start 👍🏻

[@jasonleesuffolk]

Hi,Im looking for a small drone around 3.5inch thats sub 250g and has dji 03 camera and has a good range,have you got any suggestions please?

[@T-Sav]

Been waiting for this review!

[@SultanBudiman]

great drone. thank you for sharing

[@flashbyd]

Thank' s for this Video, how about Battery n Range.. ?

[@alexpacelli2086]

what goggles do you use?

[@dreamingorca]

I have the same radio and FW 1.3.4 but there is no CROSSFIRE MENU in mine. I have to BIND to a new XF using TBS Agent! Being able to do it just with the radio would be so much easier.

[@gimbalair]

Been waiting for a review like this, I had the 35, sold it bought the cinelog25, far too femmer, sold it bought the Avata which is perfect for my fly throughs, but dull. Just need a sub 250 again

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

This might seem dumb but I have the dji controller 2 and dji fpv v2 goggles and can’t seem to bind with defender 25 and remote

[@andykirby]

Did you do the steps in Betaflight? If you changed anything in the modes tab you might have removed the aux channel that power up the O3. Check if the power light is on the o3.

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

@@andykirby thank you i got it binded altogether had to use windows PC to do the firmware update on dji fpv v2 goggles. downloading beta flight now thank you

[@DiamondfaceBoda]

only problem is wont take off but all binded lol

[@chriscflint]

This is $37 less (in Australia) than the DJI AvaTA unit. It may fly like a BYO quad but lacks all the finess of the DJI unit. I would not consider it at this price.

[@andykirby]

It is expensive for what it is.

[@dronesayeview]

I didn't know the price until you mentioned that, that is a 100% deal breaker IMO.

[@nickthakephotovideo]

mate which button did you use for the beeper?

[@andykirby]

On my tango 2 I used the right custom button on the bottom of the controller.

[@PashaHeaven]

Im interested how good video quality is with compare dji system

[@andykirby]

This does actually have a dji video system onboard.

[@basheepy4351]

Should this connect to my dji goggles v2 fine?

[@andykirby]

Yes

[@basheepy4351]

@@andykirby cool so on the tango two when im setting the buttons up am i able to just go straight to beta flight and set the buttons for example i press any button i want to be arm it will set to that button? Or do i have to do other stuff in the controller in order for the buttons to work?

[@RCREVIEWS101]

Flying Avata is a roll of dice, too many bugs, will look into IFlight. Wonder how is the indoor flying?

[@andykirby]

It's brilliant indoors. So stable.

[@moose9211]

The avata has a range of 2 mile, can this achieve that range or close to it. Also whats the top speed

[@captainbritain6737]

Where are you going 2 miles away?

[@oliverkersh2010]

Hi, I was wondering/hoping if we could have a video call (I will pay for you time obviously) to setup the drone, I've downloaded betaflight but I can't get the controller or goggles to link up, you're the only guy that can find that is help in setting it up. I hope you will consider my offer. 🙏💰

[@lukabalta2398]

i dont understand chill flying like this i started recently and holy fuck i would not be able to fly so calmly there and not yeet myself thrue those tubes on playground and i would not leave untill i record that, break my drone or waste all batteries 😂

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

Thanks for the video. Does it with dji goggles v1 too ?

[@captainbritain6737]

No

[@user-rx8qq8sk9ydv1ce5ib]

@@captainbritain6737 thanks

[@X0XTNTX0X]

Looks like a pain I’m the bum to set up, avata is a much more complete package for beginners in my book.

[@wafll8777]

I’d love one but it looks sooooo complicated to set up, and I don’t have the knowledge to understand………guess ill stick to DJI😢😢

[@billdickinson1545]

Very cool 😊

[@ButImThebee]

You ever notice A LOT of people laugh when they crash and smash shit lol... I did the same thing when I crashed my drone. Totally cried later on XD

[@andrewbt87]

can you show us the PID tune that it has, I cant find it in betaflight if you delete it...

[@andykirby]

Yeah remind me on discord in the fpv section and I'll do a screen grab.

[@enricogrizzlerpavan]

Amazing 💪💪💪😁

[@hereweare9011]

How would this thing fly in wind?

[@andykirby]

Pretty well I think as it has loads of power. Also it's a lot easier to fly acro mode in the wind rather than using a self leveling mode (angle mode or on a drone like a DJI mavic)

[@captainbritain6737]

Ordered

[@qcbs2315]

what goggles ? version 2 dji ?

[@andykirby]

Yes dji goggles 2

[@jasoncorr9910]

mate great vid, you know your stuff, i need to learn from ya mate! bit beyond me i have avata and need to learn more fcc mode 1st its just to weak signal, ill follow ya hope to learn too!

[@andykirby]

Cheers Jason 👍🏼

[@vrs6666]

It doesn't move as smoothly as the Avata because of its sensors... there will be constant height jumps in the room.

[@tjet7406]

Good luck finding a whoop that will do everything the Avata does for the price…

[@bwkhahamyaMusic]

Ufff

[@assistantto007]

I feel a bit sick.....lol

[@justintero34]

Hi @andy, or anyone else here, please can you give me the default CLI dump for the Defender 25? Unfortunately I wiped it! :(. Would be much appreciated.

[@andykirby]

I think it's on our discord actually discord.gg/EeVggnUegS search I'm the fpv section 👍🏼

[@allexsan8404]

Cool

[@fire_stick]

Mr Steel go home 😂

[@fearlessflyersfpv420]

that 03 darkening and lighter effect sucks for flying, and not so good for viewing either.

[@вечная_мерзлота]

6min of flight time is a joke. so is the cost. $50 OK but not $500

[@andykirby]

Not for high performance fpv, we often get 4 mins of hooning!

[@happygilmore2100]

$539! The Avata is of better value.

[@andykirby]

And building your own is even better value 😁

[@fabiodellino5938]

How can be better than Avata without GPS? You can only fly in the garden.

[@andykirby]

GPS is not essential, most FPV drones don't have GPS. 😊

[@andrewthompson7867]

$540 ouch 🤕

[@RBXXXX]

That's a lot of steps. I miss Dji flame wheel and dji naza hard ware and software. I hate beta it's trash. Why don't IFLIGHT make their own software. It's not like they can't afford it.

[@peteantonio1601]

take your brain on a flight,

[@Lenasko]

can we please not start using proprietary batteries?!

[@andykirby]

Yeah I feel the same, at least you can just plug any battery into it using the XT30, I'm figuring a way to fit a normal battery strap.

[@andrewyap6100]

Battery too small, only can fly around 6 minutes

[@andykirby]

6 mins is plenty if you want it light enough to do some freestyle with it. You can put a 900 on it and have 8-9mins if you want to do long range.

[@mishu0102]

that super loud noise is such a turn-off

[@andykirby]

That's whoops for ya

[@waynegoldpig2220]

Oh so this is the latest bandwagon item that the usual suspects influencer grifters are all shilling at the same time.

[@EnglishTurbines]

DJI make Drones for girlie non pilots....Quadcopters are for the real pilots and FPV community...Both types are not remotely similar in the way they fly of course....lol...😀😏🇬🇧

[@smokinstud1]

No audio? Or is it just me

[@andykirby]

Seems fine here. Maybe you were so early!

[@smokinstud1]

@@andykirby I think u was right mate

[@jacekkaczmarczyk_drones]

Great video and thx for pushing this out so quick🙌🏻👌🏻🔥