IGN's Space Marine 2 Preview Is Kinda Bad

IGN released a Warhammer 40k: Space marine 2 Preview and some of the criticisms about the melee combat are some of the worst criticisms I heard in a bit. Makes me wonder if the person previewing the game has ever played an action oriented game
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[@Trojeans]

Please remember not to be a Heretic thats planning on directly harassing the woman who wrote the preview for this game but it is okay to critisize her and IGN as a whole. As this company has formed some of the worst articles over the years while making more income than my entire bloodline combined. "You can't spell ignorant without IGN"

[@Zebrastripegum-m2j]

Naw if you don't go after them like you mentioned, they will never learn, so fuck your advice.

[@flamingo_with_Hat]

this review is the definition of someone buying a new piece of media and holding it up as the greastest thing there is, but freaking out when others dont like it, this is so childish

[@kapitankapital6580]

​@@flamingo_with_Hat this video? Not really, I thought the criticisms were pretty reasonable. I also think we need to be more critical in general of reviews pushing their personal tastes - a review is designed to inform consumers, not be your own personal blog about what you like in games.

[@flamingo_with_Hat]

@@kapitankapital6580 i get that but i see no point in getting worked up over stupid Person of the day saying stupid thing, it’s the internet people are gonna disagree with you and that’s fine

[@kapitankapital6580]

@@flamingo_with_Hat sure, but that doesn't mean you can't express why you disagree.

[@orwhynotrandom]

The way they swing their heavy chainsword is full of the exaggerated swagger of a black templar

[@mlowd5753]

This is comment GOLD right here lmao

[@ZyklonBeast12]

Holy shit 💀💀💀

[@sleeplessguardian]

lmfaoooooo

[@TheIvanMilky]

😂😂😂😂

[@NoVACorpsGaming]

I’m dying hahahaha

[@notasovietspytrustme4392]

Comparing a 40k game to a From Software tile out of the blue for no reason has got to be the most IGN thing ever

[@ochitakishi2350]

You don't understand, "It's the Darksouls of 40k spacemarine games."

[@gihadiresnov1468]

@@ochitakishi2350it’s not

[@kingdamazo7266]

​@@gihadiresnov1468he's being sarcastic bro

[@es68951]

​@ochitakishi2350 if it swings a sword, it's dark souls... if that sword is a chainsaw, it's chainsaw dark souls... if it's not dark souls, I've never heard of it

[@raptorcell6633]

Omg, it's just like Dark Souls

[@Myrkanth]

Can't spell Ignorant without IGN.

[@TheOddOperator]

Ha

[@LUIx287]

God dam i wanted to coment that stuff take my like good lad

[@R3dMatador]

Amen to that.

[@jericho5253]

One statement I’ve heard a million times but rings true forever.

[@yangpaan453]

ign fell off a long time ago, dont know why anyone still gives them the time of day

[@universal_wisdom3416]

The fact that they compared the combat system to Sekiro and not DOOM, tells me everything I need to know. They have absolutely no clue what they’re talking about.

[@calebcarson9294]

I would’ve taken it more seriously if they related to doom or gears of war.

[@jacal92]

@@calebcarson9294 gears of war is actually accurate lol since it's also third person

[@ScarBrosBlackSmokeScarBrosBlac]

If they didn't mention any other title, it'd make the preview more solid. Cause just by referring to another title to make your life easier shows you lack the capacity to articulate solid sentences with meaning

[@rushpatriot2866]

IGN is bad but so is the 40k incels. Some of the most delusional people in existence comparable to Disney fans. This will be a decent game it'll be hype for a few months and it'll be a nice memory that's it

[@calebcarson9294]

@@rushpatriot2866 the game is not even out yet and you’re already hating on it and its fans for literally no reason. There aint no way this is some type of rage bait. Get a life bro.

[@IRLJojo]

He straight up sounds like he was told to play this, didn't, and is doing "criticisms" based off of footage.

[@kimberly4275]

Yeah that's exactly what I was thinking too lmao

[@MidnightHozz]

BIGOT!

[@obiitom]

they shaved their beard so it's she now...

[@ryda180]

​@@obiitomugh, another freak of nature

My thoughts too they even do that with tv series. One guy actually admitted to not actually watching the show fully and just skimmed through random episodes then gave it a terrible review. It's like what the fuck

[@ClumsyDrow]

If IGN says it's bad I'm going to pre-order it

[@pyryvirtanen6081]

"Space Marine 2 has a real shot at being the quintessential third-person action game set in the 40K universe. It's exactly what it says on the cargo canister. You get to be an enormous, super strong, nearly invincible battering ram of post-human destruction, slinging retribution at uncountable hordes of xenos across beautiful and detailed battle spaces that bring this universe to life in a way it never has been before. Ideally, with a couple friends." If this to you sounds like they're saying it is bad you're a mouthbreather.

[@scannerbarkly]

They really liked the game, so I guess you can't buy it now?

[@maximizeism]

😂😂😂 can we have ur feedback later

[@erikschreiber3489]

Remember brothers, no pre-orders

[@herculesfromthepantheon]

Hell I did it today.

[@PHUCKzs]

Basically they weren't paid to make a good review, so they gave a bad one.

[@RossDeMars]

Yea...they got payed off by competition

[@cup1966wow]

I mean or it's the fans just being clowns. The preview was basically saying it was good but they weren't sure about the partying system. Is no critism allowed nowadays Jesus Christ.

[@gavinderulo12]

The fact that people still believe Ign gets "paid off" is ridiculous.

[@ama9385-w2g]

​@@gavinderulo12Literally are on some games bro, don't know what to tell you

[@gavinderulo12]

@@ama9385-w2g they aren't though, which is pretty clear if you're not 12 years old. Are some of their reviews bad and unreasonable? Sure. But they aren't paid off.

[@EliteCustodes]

The biggest wonder of our time is how the f does IGN still exist ? They would do everyone a huge favor if they could go bankrupt faster than they already are.

[@deathtoraiden2080]

IGN does not stand out anymore, word of mouth has caught up to it all the way at the bottom of the barrel.

[@honkhonk8009]

I think it just speaks to the great nepotism rot that encompasses our world currently. I would not be surprised if someone was bankrolling them in lieu of their shit tier videos nobody watches. CBC in Canada used Canadian taxdollars to lobby the Canadian government to keep spending public money on them, while putting out blatant misinformation on social media to convince people they arent hellspawn. I would not be surprised if IGN has backdoor deals with youtube over similar connections and shit.

[@RoulicisThe]

Life-support from DEI companies and "diversity" militants mostly

[@zinogre6225]

@@RoulicisThe I think it’s that and the fact that they put trailers on YT and the YT algorithm recommends them more than they recommend the channels of the actual trailers

[@TheRandombarguy]

Only reason I even look up ign is for trailers.

[@NinjaBray]

"Executions break the flow of combat" Yeah, it's a 2-3 second break to catch your breath before you return to purging the mutant, the heretic, and the alien.

[@DollarStoreAbomination]

Plus you regain health and are completely invulnerable during those moments Combat Respect. Even the Nids respect it, XD

[@peted2770]

@@DollarStoreAbomination Brother, it's 2-3 seconds to bask in the glory of the Emperor. It is NOT to catch one's breath.

[@mazin_iq1499]

Without those 2-3 seconds executions in doom i wouldnt be able to play for more than 5 minutes 😂

[@Quintonias]

​@@peted2770this guy purges heretics

[@BreadTeleporter1968]

And, if you’re based, the witch.

[@EvaandJavier]

The game has too much toxic masculinity for IGN

[@crazagres1839]

IGN has no idea what the fuck that even means.

[@Wanderer628]

So if I'm hearing this guy correct he wants the devs to take out all the finishers and special moves that break up the monotony of combat and increase the attack speed by 200% so the ten ton space marine is attacking as fast as a Ninja... How the fuck do these clowns have jobs?

[@saltwatertaffybag]

I mean... to be fair... lore accurate space Marines are fast. Like outrunning a muscle car fast. And they have reaction times measured in thousandths of a second, they can easily dodge subsonic projectiles . If you see any media of space Marines, put the playback speed on 4x and that would be closer to how they actually are.

[@masterfreeman117]

@@saltwatertaffybag Sometimes being accurate to the lore would make a game actively worse and less enjoyable. This is one of those times.

[@saltwatertaffybag]

@masterfreeman117 oh I absolutely agree.

[@yaacheese8643]

@@saltwatertaffybagHow fast are tyranids? I’ve heard tyranids make the aliens from the “Aliens” franchise look like a joke. So, maybe gameplay wise they are fast, but because tyranids are fast too it all balances out?

[@Blahblahblaafmn]

@@saltwatertaffybag What you're not mentioning though is that 40k still uses comic book logic, which is to say that it's less about any objective qualities all marines have and more "which side is getting wanked in X fight?" 40k is a powerscaler's nightmare because nothing is ever consistent; in one book, a single marine takes down a thousand chaos marines singlehanded, in another an entire battalion of marines gets wiped out by a single Ork Warboss. Even if the devs could accurately represent the "best feats" marines achieve in lore, they probably shouldn't, because so much of it is pure powerscaling wank material; depending on which fanboy you ask, a single necron can solo the verse, or a space marine could, or a really strong Tyranid Lictor, etc. etc.

[@kmdl14]

"Game Journalists" aren't actual gamers

[@drew6145]

Also I'd say not journalists. Might be people, jurry is still out on that one

[@CaptainFalcon07]

@@drew6145nope, they aren’t human, that’s why they don’t like space marines

[@omareliskandra4048]

Someone please tell me that this game is not going to be another woke flop

[@orwhynotrandom]

​@@omareliskandra4048 it's not

[@caseyanders1601]

Agreed. They’re frauds.

[@MrFiremagnet]

IGN reviewers being bad at games? *Shocker.*

[@keyboard_warrior6494]

I'll never forget when one of their reviewers died in the tutorial of Doom Eternal lol

[@josephbolton5893]

​@@keyboard_warrior6494was it IGN that had the Cuphead tutorial incident?

[@keyboard_warrior6494]

@@josephbolton5893 I think so

[@LovelessGentleman]

@@josephbolton5893kotaku I think

[@azrealarkanius4955]

So they dislike the melee combat and over the top executions………they realize this is a 40k game right?

[@anthonybrothers744]

This is what happens when you designate someone who’s completely unfamiliar with a creative property and tell him to review it, rather than someone who cares about the property they are reviewing. It’s ALWAYS been IGNs biggest issue.

[@MrTheGameNarrator]

Remember everyone. Gaming journalists aren't gamers

[@fungusjoe5005]

Dexerto also said the game was "a mix of Doom, Helldivers and BG3" which confuses me so much 😭 What abt this game is like BG3

[@fungusjoe5005]

What are game reviewers even useful for anymore

[@big.gib.4L]

Pro tip: IGN just makes shit up and only gives out good scores to those who pay them

[@Sermsak666]

because it's GOTY

[@filo196]

bc we will can fuck with bear.

[@bennyb.1742]

ChatGPT is getting dementia.

[@exterminans]

That guy saying Space Marine stole the executions from Doom 2016 when Space Marine came out in 2011 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@italianspiderman5012]

That is hilarious, love when game jurnos show how little they know about the medium, finisher’s we’re a thing back in the ps2.

[@cherryrook8684]

Gears of war did it even before the first game came out but obviously gears is heavily inspired by warhammer. I just hate how nowadays anything resembling a shooter with executions gets the "like doom" lable and anything remotely "challenging" gets the "souls-like" stamp. Next their gonna tell me any RPG is like baldurs gate... oh wait..

[@Noname-sy3du]

​@@cherryrook8684yep. Thats why I only play retro rpg's or ones that came out before bg

[@whalenonfools]

I just read the article and he didn't say that. He said they're reminiscent of Doom, which is a more recent game that he compared it to.

[@uvie_egua]

@@whalenonfoolsikr? OP literally created something in his head just so he could get offended. People are weird these days

[@KaizikuM]

I was done with IGN when a criticism of Pokemon Alpha Sapphire was "too much water".

[@spud7234]

I mean saying that having combat be so focused on water leading to less type variety and electric types clearing house is a valid balance criticism if you ask me

[@dean_l33]

@@spud7234 Then they should have clarify that instead of saying something vague and stupid as that quote

[@alastor8091]

Maybe people should actually look at the review instead of a quote? But also dont read/watch ign.

[@KaizikuM]

@@spud7234 they've since changed it to include the explanation. Back when they review came out, it was only "-too much water" and left it at that.

[@JK-xn4mj]

I mean, emerald is adored by everyone and I think it’s mid tier because of too much water areas myself.

[@sterm1ous]

Bro just cant block, parry, dodge MASSIVE skill issue

[@twoshieldsandsomemilk]

They gave him some busswords to sound like he knows anything about 40k and then just let him drool all over the script. As they say, cant spell ignorant without ign

[@phutureproof]

some what?

[@twoshieldsandsomemilk]

@@phutureproof use context clues, you'll figure it out

[@provaricus627]

@@twoshieldsandsomemilkYou mean buzzwords, right?

[@twoshieldsandsomemilk]

@@provaricus627 👍

[@ChaplainofFaith]

Game Journalists don't know 40k as much as we do, guys. We're TOTALLY fine without IGN. We love SM2, just the way it is.

[@fintandodwell1476]

I can say with reasonable certainty that the reviewer has not played the first space marine

[@gabethehalfling5253]

I can say with reasonable certainty that the reviewer hasn't played any game with hack in slash elements. Everything he's complaining about has been staples in the genre for decades

[@aamacan]

@@gabethehalfling5253 Thing that's even more confusing is that apparently this reviewer mostly cover RTS and survival based games. So it makes you wonder why the hell IGN decided to choose someone that couldn't be any less qualified to review a 3rd person shooter.

[@bobthebuilder5159]

0:15 it was brought into the world too soon, I miss that game.

[@cesarp714]

Yeah , love it so much and made my love for monsters designs bigger, it can be still played though

[@timaaaahhhh]

That guy’s voice alone was enough for me to completely ignore the video.

[@labbit35]

The whole point of playing as a Space Marine is to hack and slash your way though waves upon waves of enemies and somehow IGN thinks it’s a turnoff.

[@biglove98]

Nobody cares about IGN reviews when there are so many entertaining reviews from KZbinr gamers

[@fungusjoe5005]

@@biglove98 I'd rather watch a review from this guy than IGN in the big 2024

[@iconic4609]

“Nobody cares” yet EVERYONE can’t seem to get their name out of your mouths. Like everything else, you can’t stop talking about them, making them infinitely relevant forever. You have KZbinrs giving a shit about IGN reviews. And every single person in this comment section says the same thing. They’re shit. They’re not gamers. “You can’t spell ignorant without IGN”. Blah blah blah. Regurgitated bullshit. STOP GIVING THEM ATTENTION!

[@crazagres1839]

@@iconic4609 It's an ancient tradition. We laugh at clowns. That's how people are.

[@Maiden...24FM]

IGN stopped being relavant after Jessica Chobot left

[@Absentiment4l]

Jessica Chobot is spicy looking

[@SlaaneshiCacophony]

That was epic... that was epic for the win!

[@zretil]

Not according to their view count, unfortunately.

[@nickrushton6899]

​@@zretilbecause they already had the base built up, sadly.

[@wayward5219]

IGN stopped being relevant after IGN was created

[@Strider_Roshin]

IGN doesn't like it? I now feel confident in pre-ordering it.

[@ApsmneShsbshu]

IGN did like it.

[@jonhillbarry]

exactly !

[@thelemon5069]

You shouldn't pre-order any game

[@forbiddenbanana9255]

​@@thelemon5069Nah people should worry about their money instead of others.

[@renediem5218]

I pre ordered too, seems looks like this game is a awesome continuation of sm1, fckn loved that game. Now since Helldivers 2 turnen into wokedivers 2 this game has a all the potential imo to become one of the best games of the year if they don't sell theyr soul like the helldivers/Wokedivers 2 devs did.

[@weisilber8957]

IGN: "Executions are too long!" Trojan: "Executions are only *2* seconds long. They may take *2 - 3* seconds, but after those *3 - 4* seconds are over, you will never complaing about those lost *4* seconds."

[@celphalonred1999]

The dude literally sounded repulsed, bored, annoyed, and depressed, all at the same time. He couldn't say a single sentence without insulting the game while reading from his script. Not enough "female" space marines for them

[@AidanClutter]

Hey I’m new to warhammer, so sorry if I am about to commit a heresy, why are there no girl space marines lore wise? I don’t mind it I’m not trying to start a argument, I learned the hard way I have to say that.

[@HomeboyMcGoo]

@@AidanClutterif I’m not mistaken there are not any female space marines because of the augmentation process? I may be wrong but basically the problem is we have the Sisters of Battle and from their lore they are not augmented but wear some heavy ass armor and still move fast while also having unreal religious fervor. However, Sisters are rarely in video game form aside from a boomer shooter. Again, I’m not super deep in the lore and all of what I just said could be completely wrong.

[@burtreynolds8030]

@@AidanCluttertheir gene seed, or the dna used to create/enhance them is directly from their primarch, and the primarch gene seeds come directly from the emperor, a very basic way to understand it is primarchs are lesser clones of the emperor and space marines are lesser clones of their primarch, also I think it’s because if you are going to create a super soldier, it is better to start with a 6’6 250 lb dude

[@Mastert3318]

​@AidanClutter It's because the Emperor didn't want Space Marines reproducing and eventually start subjugating regular humans.

[@AidanClutter]

@@Mastert3318 OHHHHHH THAT MAKES SENSE! Thank you! If there is any random lore u guys wanna tell me I will 100% listen cause I like learning more about warhammer

[@ZuayZeen]

IGN will give this 6/10 because it's too masculine

[@TemplarBlack.]

"Yeah, the game is okay but the fact that you can't play a female space marine really bring the game down and show the lack of diversity in the setting"

[@DirtyCivilian14]

​@@TemplarBlack. I really hope you're joking

[@orwhynotrandom]

​@@DirtyCivilian14 dw he is

[@rfb5206]

​@@TemplarBlack.When has IGN done this in any of their reviews? Stop getting mad at imaginary scenarios kid.

[@Moverboy]

Bait used to be believable 🚬

[@Atlashon]

That animation of slamming that tyranid on the floor is frigging awesome!

[@anthonybrothers744]

5:15 you’re actually wrong the execution system is tied to health regeneration, so yes you do have to do them. I don’t mind, I think they are sick, but not doing executions is the equivalent of a challenge run. You were wrong.

[@fiikid]

Challenge or not the point is you don’t have to do it he’s right

[@anthonybrothers744]

@@fiikid That’s a gigantic straw man it’s not a good point to all. YOU LITERALLY don’t have to kill a single enemy to beat the campaign you can stand there and let the AI do everything. Doesn’t mean a critique of the game could be something like “I really dislike how many enemies I have to fight and kill” and the counter response is a fucking poindexter saying “well technically you don’t have to kill anything”. It’s just a dumb fucking argument you feel me? Don’t make it.

[@TewaAya]

They want those "canned" movements for rtx storytelling games and not a 3rd person multiplayer shooter. They want realism on background physics but gets bored on a mechanically rewarding feature?

[@alexw5137]

Honestly at this point IGN aren't a company full of gamers anymore they'll give a good review to a bad game and then turn around and give a bad review to a good game. Every gamer I been watching for this game has enjoyed the heck out of this game and their opinions matter than a company full of people who don't know how games work anymore.

[@ColossalGinger]

It’s almost like the people reviewing these games for IGN haven’t played them or something.

[@alexw5137]

@@DergonBaals Oh I'm not saying they don't have opinions; they do but some of their complaints don't make sense as pointed out in the video. They complain about the parry but compliment the gore, they complain about the parry but do a smaller parry in return. They complain about the parry on the big guy yet can't even parry him to show us why they complain about it. At least make your stuff make sense not just complain at something and not show us why you're complaining about it.

[@gaslighter9299]

Their opinions are terrible and it’s ok to mock them for it

[@Lakrimoz]

IGN - No female space marines. 0/10.

[@MrBartolbe42]

Yep this is it right here.

[@manscapedgrinch1427]

I'll never understand the argument from the woke crowd.. like what about sisters of battle.

[@MrBartolbe42]

@@manscapedgrinch1427 And a sister of battle game would be cool too.

[@thunder2434]

IGNs review was really bad, just trashing a game they barely tested or understood the mechanics of. That said, Games Workshop did release Female Space Marines way back for Rogue Trader. The minis looked worse than awful and everyone quickly forgot about them. But they were in-lore back then so there is a precedent -if really old and buried for good reason. Anyway Sisters of Battle are way cooler anyway, they're all the "female space marines" we'll ever need and more. If that isn't enough female characters for a game or Tv series there are kickass Inquisitors, Sisters of Silence (blanks) and Guard officers that are Women to base it on. in 40K there's no lack of female characters or units to pick from although it must seem like it for outsiders who aren't into the lore since Amazon ants to change it. But I bet Cavill already told Amazon all of this and they wouldn't listen.

[@manscapedgrinch1427]

@@thunder2434 full disclosure I hope the Amazon stuff gets cancelled. I don't trust games workshop to make quality shows and movies themselves, but I definitely don't trust Amazon to make faithful content.

[@vontrapp9853]

The reviewer sounds like the type of dude that eats bananas for the shape

[@V-95K]

He is Eating bananas whole, all thing goes inside at once

[@joshbernal4864]

His boyfriend has to cut up his hotdogs or else he won't eat them.

[@Koobygus]

Y'all are killing me 🤣🤣🤣

[@cherryrook8684]

Probably someone that eats snickers upside down to feel the veiny texture

[@King_of_Sofa]

and tries to take as big of bites as possible

[@don8659]

Game critics; especially from big names like IGN don't even play video games. I'll take my friends words on it long before I would literally ANYONE from companies like IGN

[@duckbread0]

3:51 slight correction (i only know this because i just finished space marine 1) doing an execution does not, in fact, make you invincible in the first game. yes, this is aggravating because as i’m executing the warboss, i get murdered by nobz and boyz.

[@BestShifty]

One correction: The executions are not optional, they are a core part of the gameplay as they regenerate armor

[@SA80TAGE]

aye it appears even this dude doesn't understand that, aint no-one getting far in this game without executing.

[@braxtonyarborough8448]

He legit talks about this at around 5:28

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

Bro didn't even watch the full video 💀

[@Coconut-219]

Coincidentally, "executions are not optional" happens to be my preferred policy towards "games" ""journalism"".

[@SA80TAGE]

@@LordCrate-du8zm we did, every time he mentions the criticisms against the execution system, he explicitly says they are optional. Perhaps YOU need to watch the video more closely.

[@stonelane1827]

get the feeling the IGN reviewer has never played a game before 2018

[@BasedFish]

Ofc IGN is shit

[@Exile5252]

They were wrong with their review of Space Marines 2 and on top of that they rated Concord a 7/10, they just hated Space Marines 2 for political reasons 🤮

[@Itz2Cat]

If i gave my grandmother this game and told her to review it, i dont think the review would be very informative nor accurate. So how come these people get payed to do it? Most of these "game reviewers" that work for these major companies are obviously not suited for this propose. To review something accurately and fairly, you must first actually be knowledgeable in the medium you are reviewing.

[@Goiaba308]

Honestly I think they are all paid to have fixed opinions, by one company or another. Only reason to have someone who doesn't understand anything about the game as your reviewer

[@jackferis5038]

so basically a skill issue

[@bigfloppymonster]

I will never complain about i-frame animation rewards for well timed button inputs

[@darko-man8549]

@3:20 when you've raised yourself on mobile games; that's how

[@MaximilianoRueda655]

I am a Spanish speaker and several Spanish video game news sites speak very highly of Space Marine 2. They detail the positives and negatives of each game including this one and I feel they are a bit more reliable than IGN.

[@soulripper3836]

4:00 ok that's kind of a bad take to say execution's are optional they are as optional as using a healing terminal in Darktide or any other game. like you can just not use them but your shooting yourself in the foot. because executions recover your armor so they seem very important to any build. still I don't think executions are boring.

[@ayomonty6806]

he did also mention that the only time they arent necessarily optional is for that same reason of restoring your armor at 5:28 . if youre full hp/armor there’s no reason to use it, id consider that being optional in that situation

[@velocityfragz_5840]

i seen that the gameplay was being wide spread the other day from many creators. I even distinctly watched IGN's take first for the laughs. BOY was I not disappointed. Dude sounded un-enthusiastic or like he was being held at gun point to be there and play it LOL. I don't understand whats so hard about letting someone ***INTERESTED IN THAT TYPE OF GENRE OF GAME, TO REVIEW THE APPROPRIATE GENRE OF GAME***.

[@ProkerKusaka]

There is no "interested in games" in IGN

[@jacktheripper7935]

Remember Outlaws?

[@dean_l33]

I'm trying and I actually can't. Do you mean Lawbreaker?

[@Fusible_1]

​@@dean_l33Star Wars Outlaws

[@dean_l33]

@@Fusible_1 Oh that dissapointment

[@jacktheripper7935]

@@dean_l33 can we call this a disappointment if we were sure it'd flop at release since the beginning?

[@dean_l33]

@@jacktheripper7935 Fair enough though it's sad that 1313 get the axe but this get the green light

[@KrayZee33]

The "only 2 seconds of animation" bit can be a problem though, depending on how often it happens. In a horde game, it can become very repetitive. We all know this from the older Assassins Creed games for example where you basically just went into "parry mode" and had one animation play after the other. I don't know if the newer ones have it, if they do, that's just as bad. And that one is not even a horde game. It can be a much bigger issue than you think. It's cool and fun for the first 100 times, and gets annoying later on and you'll consider skipping it and taking the hit if that's faster. It's especially bad when the animations are not numerous enough. (i.e. 2 per enemy type for example) - thankfully, this isn't the case in SM2 Saying it's "optional" is just wrong as well. You have to do them, because they reload your weapons and don't consume ammo, heal you etc. You are meant to do them. There are weapons that have only like 25 shots (reserve ammo included), and one enemy might take 2-4 to get in execute range. And need up to 2 more to actually kill without an execute It's honestly one of my "pet"-peeves with this game as well, when I watched people play on the hardest difficulty and 5 of the whatever-the-sword-tyranids are called show up, the player basically went to each one of them and executed them with a 3-4 second animation, while each of these monsters were just staying in place as they were "stunned" from taking too much damage, waiting for their turn to be executed. It's certainly a bit silly. And they still have quite some HP when they are in execute range, so it's not like shooting them is any faster... and shooting a target that doesn't move and interact with you isn't fun anyway.

[@domidoo1753]

the one thing that really annoyed me, is that at 2:25 (on this video) he says "maybe 6 hours just wasent long enough to get the feel for it yet". but later on in the review he says the campaign took him about 10 hours, and that he played some of the PvE

[@stevencavanagh7990]

To me the Reviewer came across as someone who wants to just sit back and be safe, with zero risk to there health Bar, (after his comments about Heavy & Assault), but something I did notice was his comment about the Tactical Marine, been Generic and compering it to the Ultramarine's. he could have left that comment out as all Chapters have Tactical Squads. it felt more like a dig than a legit criticism.

[@italianspiderman5012]

Well, fans tend to be very specific with inaccuracies in lore, he thought he found one, and of course decided to point it out, out of spite, because that’s the kind of people they are.

[@whalenonfools]

@@italianspiderman5012 he didn't say anything about the lore. He said he personally prefers Space Wolves to Ultramarines and had the most fun playing the Tactical class because of some valid criticisms with the other two.

[@gargmann]

Can't spell ignorance without IGN

[@NayuzAqua]

Funny how we still care aboht IGN... We should make them feel irrelevant.

[@DoomedDuckStudios]

2:15 They did the same thing with Star Wars Outlaws, the narration was talking about stealth and how every blaster fight had weight and stakes while the gameplay was the player running up to 5 enemies and all of them just standing in front of each other shooting. Then one of the enemy AI turns around and shoots the ship in the hangar lmao

[@misfit1422]

3:53 I do this in Destiny 2, I have the shielded executioner armor mod and if things get hectic with Champions in a GM or something, I try to perform a finisher to take a quick breather and let my recovery kick in and make a plan on my next move

[@lorisover7776]

Maybe IGN did'nt get extra cash from Focus entertaiment so they give a salty review :p

[@V-95K]

This and there is not enough WOKENESS for ign

[@keithhuynh4985]

@@V-95Kno it isn’t wokeness their just bad at the games they play

[@KratosisGod]

Yeah I stopped listening to game journalists after one couldn't even beat the tutorial in cuphead.

[@V-95K]

This and WU Kong will receive 6 or lower from IGN for lacking “diversity” “inclusivity” and “WOKENESS”

[@coptool3344]

Whereas SWOL and ACS will get 7 or higher for having "diversity" and "inclusivity".

[@lamogio7938]

>Game from GW >not woke Oh boy do I have news for you

[@BevanWard]

i also find that the parries and executions, as well as being satisfying to pull off, cool looking, and rewarding (in giving you armour back) also give you a moment to breath, so you're not just constantly spamming the same keys.

[@Thebe-hoodedfiles]

It’s IGN there know for bad reviews like there review of doom eternal so yeah IGN has no idea what they are talking about most of the time Also space marine 2 looks great can’t wait to get it and play it one of these days

[@K1181-r4o]

RE4 Remake was another third-person shooter with a parry mechanic

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

"Then it's like Sekiro!" - John IGN

[@jackrusso4700]

sorry I know this will probably come across as negative but like…it’s IGN? They’ve always had dogass journalism. This isn’t new info, nor does it warrant a discussion beyond “wow they’re lame” ‘yea they are’ I don’t think a 7 minute video stating the obvious (IGN bad) is needed

[@33KetssA]

He is right about the finishers man even 1sec animation is boring when you start doing hundreds of finishers it becomes too much

[@xxalucard66xx]

Finally someone who said this. A 2 second animation stops being cool when you've seen it 2000 times.

[@archongaur1191]

it wasnt boring in a first game and its crucial part of gaming mechanic to replenish your armor.... this is not suppose to be soulsborne game

[@xxalucard66xx]

@archongaur1191 speed them up and add variety like DOOM did then. If I'm going to play this game 10 hours and never touch it again then fine, but if it's supposed to have any kind of longevity it's something to think about. Something stops being cool for everyone at some point, be it after 10, 100, or 500 hours.

[@archongaur1191]

@@xxalucard66xx theres variety for every weapon and every enemy type... also luckily this isnt doom. Speed is just fine.... that IGN clown was just mad because he clearly didnt know how to parry....

[@bulldog2000]

So.....don't do it

[@FerenDB]

IGN proves once how imcompeted they are, regarding videogames. the AAAASS SW game got 7/10. You are joking, or he mad he didnt get a free trip to disneyland.

[@OrigionalCigarette]

The best advice these days is: *Don't listen to mainstream game reveiwers.* I'd rather suggest smaller time reviewers if you are really interested, but generally i'd reccomend just watching trailers, gameplay, etc, and see if its the game type you'd like. Worse comes to worse, Steam is rather easygoing on refunds, so if you don't like it, you can get your money back easily.

[@Nebarus]

No woke, no DEI, no SBI, not an IGN favorite? I am in!

[@richiem1321]

IGN Lost All Credibility over a Decade ago.

[@phutureproof]

Whats With the Randomly capitalised Words there Pal

[@solodolo8839]

Rule of thumb is if ign praises a game it’s 100% garbage if they don’t like a game it’s 100% for us gamers. See you marines when 40 k drops my first intro to the series and I’m hyped

[@whalenonfools]

They liked it though!

[@Acquire]

This is not accurate at all lol.

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

See ya there, battle brother!

[@solodolo8839]

@@Acquire enjoy your concord buddy

[@adreamingwolf]

I was surprised that finishers in Space Marine don't make you invincible. If you don't time it right you can still be killed mid execution.

[@DeathstarMXR]

Just wanted to say, it's IGN which is short for ignorant.

[@warlord13000]

I dislike ign as much as the next guy, but 7 minutes being dramatic about someone not like pary animation is crazy. Def just created to get views off ign hate. No substance. This video is just as bad as everything ign puts out

[@unknownuser3000]

Come on man. Thats not even footage from ign. Its b roll provided by focus. Why make a video like this and call out their skills and not even realize its the developers playing? The hate for ign is so misplaced.

[@FormlessPBnJ]

The 2 side missions were playable and showable by those who got access. If they aren’t showing their own footage it probably is because neither this reviewer lady nor anyone at IGN can or wants to get a better run recorded.

[@galenbjorn443]

space marine 2 looks fucking epic!

[@Vulgarth1]

The blue parry system really puts me in mind of Callisto Protocol. It had this exact thing where parrying lets you pop off a killshot right after.

[@GhostShahid]

Safe to say ima wait a few weeks till I actually buy this

[@RichardCaceresMendez]

2:22 because the can’t show their own gameplay only the provided

[@bernaudh]

they can cut it how they want tho, right?

[@orwhynotrandom]

For campaign they can show operation footage go watch gameriot or legacy gaming's videos with entire operations

[@ТаникДэдлайт]

Are ign guys even play games?

[@ProkerKusaka]

If you noticed no. They take paid reviews from studios like Ubisoft with already finished script to read. Even futage doesnt correlate with what said in the review. When game devs not paying them they just play for 30 minutes and say nonsence

[@Goiaba308]

​@@ProkerKusakayeah, it's just paid bots. Paid by a company to shit on another

[@Therestrial205]

IGN would give it 101/10 if the game have Nocturne Sister of Battle who's turn out to be a lesbian and beating Bio Titan with empty hands Of course it could be higher if there's no man and they're carried rainbow flag with every characters have their own pronounce...

[@Therestrial205]

BUT THAT'S WILL NEVER HAPPEN YA HERETICS!! NO HERESY ALLOWED!! LONG LIVE THE GOD EMPEROR!!

[@normal-use7628]

​@@Therestrial205CORPSE WORSHIPER, ALL SKULLS BELONG TO KHORNE!

[@somedude1887]

Holy fuck are you chronically online, go outside and touch some grass

[@whalenonfools]

what's "pronounce"?

[@corvus_armatura7595]

I don't think Salamanders nor any Space Marine Chapter/Legion would take kindly to the Ecclesiarchy picking up recruits from their homeworld.

[@rocketsocks3116]

What's the top down game at 00:27 with the flamethrower?

[@LordCrate-du8zm]

That's still Space Marine II

[@Lupercalia-6319]

I’m hype for space marine two but I hope one day they will make a battlefront style Horus heresy game where you can take part of battles through out the heresy with multitudes of playable entities on the field

[@travis8106]

I'll shit on IGN any chance I get, but I don't think they were outta pocket here. You took a very small part of their preview, a 5 second off the cuff comment, and blew it up to a massive scale.

[@warlord13000]

Fr 7 minutes talking about one small comment

[@M3h3ndr3]

Ngl but this review is on the same level then IGN, the execution break the flow not because of their length but because of how often they happen. Its dumb to say "you dont have to do them" pretty sure you have cause the melee is build around it. Stop being a fanboy and look at things objectively lol

[@jacobharper7556]

this vid is based

[@DogInATaco]

3:44 I think the issue here is actually prominent if the executions truly take 2-3 seconds. In Doom, your glory kills take 1.5 seconds AT MOST, and in the early game you quickly learn that even the second you're standing still is enough time for enemies to swarm and prepare their attack, leaving you completely defenseless as you come out of the execution and take 3 hits. However, it quickly changes that by introducing runes that let you shorten your executions by nearly half, and another that lets you launch into glory kills from quadruple the distance. 3 seconds is a LONG time to be sitting still in a horde hack n slash. It feels like an eternity when you're already queueing up your next moves in your head. That being said, you can absolutely just not do them.

[@seangallagher9435]

At 3:40 The original space marine game didn’t have invincibility during executions

[@jonathanberry8656]

He mentioned that around 6:38 ish minute mark.

[@mategido]

Game journalist are a joke

[@theoneandonly676]

I always did the opposite of IGN.

[@chrisprescott2273]

This IGN reviewer has such a whiney voice its actually hard to listen to.

[@marvinn6044]

I hate how "break in the action" is a bad thing according to IGN. I just recently played Sifu and Sekiro, and I loved that executions made you immune during their animations, allowed you to quickly analyze your surroundings and plan ahead a little bit. A little 3 second break is a very welcome opportunity in action heavy games if you ask me.

[@martinjuniorbalbihurtado9599]

I would love that they bring back the rage system of Space Marine, at least in story mode with Titus. It made the executions even more brutal

[@Hogarth420]

They gave Deadpool 3 a 4 also

[@Fargus-ut3kt]

No actual fucking way 💀

[@trailvinzyl779]

no sister....bad and sexist game~IGN

[@mustaproductionsperez6726]

Game is not woke enough. IGN

[@GoblinWarlordGaming]

Something I noticed that I really like is the enemies are actually fighting like they would not all beelining it for the player , they engage threats as they come upon them

[@tpemp]

i love that he directly compared the dodge/parry system to sekiro but completely ignored that the game also has the bloodborne rally system in it

[@azzy9293]

Except sekiros dodge and parry system is much more brutal, in fact the type of dodge/parry in question isn't even specific to souls like games

[@leonodonoghueburke4276]

Holy shit, what a massive overreaction. Imagine getting this triggered over some guy saying "the controller movement is a bit clunky" and "the parrying gets to be a bit much" about a game that _isn't even out yet._ And that doesn't even touch on this guys arguments that are just baffling. I guess thats just how outrage culture works though; figure out whatever the current hype is around, make a video thats designed to tap into our ape impulse to get irrationally angry at things and wait for the ad revenue to roll in. And by the time people start to realise that it really wasn't as big of a deal as they made it out to be the hype cycle has moved on and 90% of them have forgotten about it. It's not even funny when it's so predictable

[@KTDOOM]

Why are you mad at a guy for being passionate about a video game? This man is showing that he truly loves war hammer and is correcting this IGN reviewers terrible remarks🙄

[@BeansAndWeens]

@@KTDOOM this comment is just rage bait i bet. so it's inline with IGN in the sense that it just annoys the shit out of everyone.