IKKO IKKI CLAN OVERVIEW - Total War: Shogun 2!

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

*One thing I just realized I forgot to mention during the video, is that when inciting a revolt with an Ikko Ikki monk, the rebel army that spawns upon success will become yours along with the town if they manage to take it. You don't go to war with the clan they take it from either, Ikko Ikki monks are the only monks in the game to have this feature. Regular monk caused rebellions will spawn as either Buddhist or Christian rebels and when they take a town, it will become a rebel town.*

[@viettrungtran4500]

They should have call Ikko Ikki - Master of Rebellion.

[@678gog]

I think master of revolution may fit better. But both are fine

[@robgo635]

MrSmartDonkeyLP -awesome-

[@TheManofthecross]

yea though when they do that you can't control those rebels anyway and only after they take the town is possible but also if you are sucessul at doing this multiple times but they keep getting crushed by other battle groups it will only make there groups stronger in terms of xp and vet troops and make your life pure hell so it is a risk to doing it that way and when I tried this very rarely had any one revolt spot been successful in taking a town. and they also spawn in proportion to the garason quality and quanity so it is a pain in the ass. the only way to get a good group there is to incite a revolt with a group at full card strength in the castle it'self and hope they don't get anilated and you can only have one rebel group at a time active in there.

[@omegakaoz3658]

Hey you forgot to mention the Ikko Ikki temples' traits (which are in my opinion hands down the best in the game). Besides the fact that it gives you chi research reduction (-2/3% initally?) and access to recruit more monk agents and paired with dojos, different warrior monk units like your typical temple but you automatically have naginata Warrior Monk garrisons within your stronghold for free as long as you have the temple built which will spawn out with your samurai retainers, onna bushi (if you have a castle and/or citadel) and ashigaru. So you can essentially build a fortress/castle and pair that with Ikko temples and a small army in choke points like Settsu and Tajima to the west and you have a decent border guard. Depending on the tier of the temple, you can essentially get 2-3 warrior monk garrison per region. Other than that great video!

[@Zazume_]

I will always remember the Ikko Ikki. Not for playing them myself (didn't do that yet), but because they were a super loyal ally when I beat the Shogun 2 campaign for the second time (played as Chosokabe). Even after Realm Divide, they stayed an ally and actually kept some noisy enemies away from me (especially on sea) while conquering and holding Kyoto, before I marshed to Kyoto they actually slayed an Hatakeyama army that was camping near it. They eventually turned against me after the second turn holding Kyoto, they couldn't stop me from becoming Shogun at this point anymore. Thanks, Ikko Ikki :3

[@primordialbias8711]

It's funny, because in my experience, at least with the Takeda, they always declare war on me the second their borders reach mine (Which doesn't take long). Same goes for the Uesugi and Oda.

[@Zazume_]

I think we became allies pretty early in the game, when our provinces weren't very near to each other, me being the Chosokabe, my home province is quite far away from Ikko Ikkis home province. At that point, we were allies for so long that they liked me enough to not declare war on me even on RD. Takeda's home province is much closer to them, so they start disliking you earlier.

[@blazepine]

ive NEVER been able to befriend the ikko. only playable faction ive yet failed to do so with

[@juliusmoe-nstar8942]

@@blazepine I have been lucky

[@blazepine]

@@juliusmoe-nstar8942 teach me sensei, the art of not pissing off religious nutcases

[@VvodeAn]

"34 year old car company" LOL

[@LionbugLP]

I DIDNT EVEN HEAR THAT FUK

[@philemon26]

4:30

[@ahmadainulmohdazam9767]

Lol it's car company 😂

[@akizaizayoi4763]

@@LionbugLP I heard it even though I have a bad hearing and even though I was watching this video on 1.4x speed.

[@shirowolfanimator]

Lol

[@RocketHarry865]

First of all I think the Ikko Ikki should not of have been a clan but a lose confederation of peasants, masterless samurai and warrior monk societies. Instead of castles they should of have fortified monasteries

[@ReviveHF]

Maybe mods can fix that.

[@pypy1986820]

At least the faction starting point should be at their most famous fortress monastery Ishiyama Honganji and their Daimyo be the Temple Master Honganji Kennyo.

[@SwordMadnessvhs]

Fella this is a game, and CA wanted to add something unusual, Shogun is awesome, and I truly appreciate this DLC because it is just interesting beyond history facts

[@hatorihorrus]

This faction must be Asakura clan not iko iki

[@powerist209]

@@SwordMadnessvhs Well, to be fair, they could expand more on the mechanics for Ikko Ikki. Granted that this was before DLCs of Total War 2, but the DLC factions after Shogun 2 tend to add unique features for them.

[@qihangshi9435]

Funny you should suggest allying with Oda since historically Oda Nobunaga was known for his hatred and cruelty to Ikko Ikki rebels.. Suppose counterfactual choices make for some of the best choices.

[@dragontear1638]

Ironically, Oda liked to declare war on me *as* the Ikko Ikki. XD

[@mickeyrace873]

Not for nothing, the ikki despise all samurais, the oda just happened to be in close proximity after they displaced the asakura

[@artymclabin8584]

You have underrated the matchlock ashigaru. I have just passed my Ikko Ikki campaign, with my primary mission building a matchlock army. these units are: 1) very. very. very powerful in castle protection 2) have ultra devastating damage as long as you keep an enemy near but busy (melee distraction) 3) along with accuracy improvements in your capital, they get pretty accurate, which make them useful in nearly every situation. i always win field battles with them, even outnumbered 4) hit n run tactics work uber-good. Have fun gunning.

[@thepopulargirl1784]

Yeah there Castle defense is incredible. I had 4 gun monks just covering one side of my castle, and I thought, I'd probably have to send the spear ashigaru over eventually to reinforce, but nope. They just shot up every unit that tried to assault that side without letting them even get close enough to scale the wall.

[@strangerakari2836]

Why the fuck would you want to make matchlock ahigaru when you already have your deathstacks of warrior monks and ronins and you can make almost any unit in the game?

[@molealto]

Yeah, protecting castles is the best use for teppo.

[@robertharris6092]

In that came play as oda and immedietly take ikko ikkis capital. You get stronger matchlock ashigaru with lower upkeep.

[@nogisonoko5409]

@@strangerakari2836 For base defense, they are amazing and cheaper than warrior monks

[@iterationfackshet1990]

It’s funny how the Ikkō-Ikki suck with matchlock weapons in this game even though in history they were the most feared thing on the battlefield. At Ishiyami Hongan-ji 30,000 of Oda Nobunaga’s men were absolutely obliterated by 3,000 Ikkō-Ikki arquebusiers. This siege of Ishiyama Hongan-ji lasted so long that it was considered a campaign unto itself. Even the war against other Ikkō strongholds is named after the fortress of Ishiyama Hongan-ji.

[@ph89787]

The Ikko Ikki are the Japanese version of the Faith Militant.

[@pypy1986820]

Much better. They are more like Crusader Knights order such as Knights Templar. Warrior Monks and their fortress monastery are exempt from feudal tax and were individually wealthy and powerful due to religious donations and their single-mindedness training in martial arts and Buddhism (they are supposedly fanatical and fearless due to their Buddhist beliefs and the lack of family and other worldly attachments) since the vow of chastity and poverty practically took away any other worldly concerns for them. The biggest difference between them and GOT faith militant is Japanese warrior monks are professional elite soldiers with proper training, equipment, and monetary and logistic support just like Crusader Knights Orders. In fact, also similar to Crusader Knights, a good chunk of the warrior monks were ex-samurais who were defeated and choose to become a monk instead of committing seppuku. In GOT terms, warrior monks are very similar to Night's Watch with a lot of penitent ex-samurai joining the various fortress monasteries across the land when they become losers of political and military conflicts. Indeed, warrior monks sects accidentally becoming extra intimidating in Sengoku Jidai because of all the feudal wars created a lot of Ronin/masterless samurais and Samurai orphans to boost their ranks. So if you combine Night's Watch and Faith Militant, you probably gets equivalent of Warrior Monks sects for GOT.

[@ph89787]

@@pypy1986820 Actually considering their background. The Ikko-Ikki had more in common with the Sparrows than the Faith Militant.

[@i_love_crpg]

Ravenpy really interesting stuff. What are the sources to this stuff you learned. id love to educate myself in this as much as you have!

[@blaznsoccer3997]

You are incorrect, faith militants are a bunch of wackos, ikkoikki were a majority ex veteran samurais or ashigarus from mixed clans that could engage a well armed army.

[@KeepTheComputerOn]

Vassalising the Ikko Ikki as the Uesgi and watching them just tear Japan apart whilst I sat back and reaped the rewards was probably by best moment in Shogun 2.

[@Bladedwind]

I do love the idea of taking out the Honma early. I tend to be very bad about building navies since I find naval battles extremely boring...but the FILTHY HONMA as I've taken to calling them tend to keep landing armies on my soil whenever I reach Realm Divide. Super irritating.

[@molealto]

Any time I play as a clan anywhere near Honma - Uesugi, Date, Takeda, Ikko - I always try and take a boat trip to Sado. Gold, lovely gold...

[@nogisonoko5409]

Just make a naval blockade somewhere around the sea, stop them from reaching your lands.

[@papafrankupleasereturn4225]

that's why I build one army on the side with them, and when they land I just slaughter them and I am good for the next 15 turns

[@MrPathorn]

7:40 on the right of the back row. "We've run out of ammo but we will pretend we're helping"

[@pypy1986820]

They missed the opportunity to have the Ikko Ikki starting at their most famous fortress monastery and sect: Ishiyama Honganji with leading daimyo be the temple master Honganji Kennyo

[@gizeliadiaz4733]

> B N h p

[@alexanderrahl7034]

I played this clan a month ago and found them so bullshit lol. I used almost exclusively bow ashigaru once i found out how ridiculous the ikko ikki make them. I focused heavily on accuracy with them, and found their accuracy soon reaching between 60 and 70 for most once properly upgraded and trained. Which was insanity, because they turned all my enemies to paste before they reach me. I would watch enemies charge me and after a few volleys. They were routed before even clashing with my front lines. It became so crazy i checked my mods and found none of them affected my archers, and got bored after conquering all of middle japan and didn't even bother with Kyoto. Ikko ikki best faction 10/10 would block out the sun again lol

[@enricosalviano8333]

What do you think of the other clans?

[@robertharris6092]

You think thats crazy? Try a stack of bow monks. Or matchlock monks.

[@DanTheKendoMan]

I'm glad someone is still producing content based on one of my favorite games despite being kind of old. Do you hope they make a third shogun tw game in the future?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Definitely, they've said there won't be a 3rd of any Total War game for a long time though. They confirmed earlier today that the next historical TW game will cover an era they haven't covered yet. I'm still rooting for China.

[@DanTheKendoMan]

that's disappointing I really love shogun over the others

[@CrimsonJ3ster]

+MrSmartDonkeyLP China total war =-O might need new underwear :(

[@brainwasher9876]

I really don't want a new Shogun. We've covered essentially every interesting period of Japanese warfare outside of modern war, which doesn't suit total war at all. Lots of places on the planet are long overdue for a Total War that CA simply haven't touched yet.

[@abdansyakuro1105]

Hope they make the (failed) First Japanese Conquest of Korea,then Tokugawa's claim as the Shogun

[@j.matias9943]

Something really good that I found out is that loan sword ashigaru are amazing if you're able to bribe them as Oda. I got a couple of them alongside a couple bow ronin during an Oda Long Campaign, and even if the bow ronin were quite disappointing, the army I put them did amazingly well. By themselves, they fought off Date, Uesugi and Takeda, as well as the biggest pain the ass in the game in my opinion, aka the Honma Clan.

[@pieterzwanenburg5450]

TIP : An interesting mechanic is that when you use the monks to incite revolts , the lower the percentage of ikko ikki inhabitants, the higher the chance of successful revolt. In addition, provinces without a lot of soldiers are less expensive to incite revolts in. Thus by first levelling up your monks, and then send them behind enemy lines to further away provinces with little soldiers ( often those not next to you, but one or two provinces away ) , you can incite revolts successfully for an acceptable price. In addition, when having trouble to maintain control of the newly acquired province, you can just use the acquired garrison to strengthen your own army or use them as a distraction by sending them to other provinces. Just let the newly acquired province rebel ! It doesn't matter , as it will wreak havoc on the enemy faction just the same! Also , the new owner will be rebels, rather than a powerful faction such as the Takeda or Date, so you can conquer these rebel provinces rather easily later on anyway !

[@VvodeAn]

now that i watched the whole video, i can pretty much say you saved me! i had no idea on how to play this clan and now i know! time to spam loan swords and take the honma out!

[@hui-an-xin]

Haha I love your humor. I hope you cover the Takeda soon, I could use some tips as a more inexperienced player.

[@bali4n1]

Thanks for the video! I haven't played Shogun II in years, but this video made me download it again. Although I own the DLC, I never played the Ikko Ikki. So that is exactly what I am doing right now.

[@davidzhou3923]

Since getting this game 6 years ago, Ikko Ikki has been my favorite clan. Played and won champions and others only once. (Don't play very often so each champion would take couple months)

[@MrPancake777]

Love these clan overview videos. Keep it up.

[@invidatauro8922]

You forget one of their coolest abilities. That when you trigger a Rebellion with your monk, it will spawn an Ikko Ikki rebellion and if they succeed the territory becomes yours.

[@thewampire4640]

Did you read the pinned comment?

[@mattjohnson7198]

Very top, pinned comment. 5 years ago.

[@DesertCookie]

I just tried playing the Ikko Ikki for the first time. I've played "hard" clans before, but this medium clan absolutely challenged me. I would be at war with at least four other clans at all times, suing for peace whenever I could. Though peace would never last and at most two years later they'd attack again. The longest period I ever had to focus on my economy instead of recruiting was about two years in which I upgraded my castles wherever I could. Ultimately, I had stretched to five provinces total before being pushed back and losing everything within about, again, two years, after a total of nine clans had declared war on me within only half a year.

[@stephen_1973]

Gr8 video. Btw, another thing to mention is that the temples for the Ikko Iki spread faith to adjacent provinces and they have naginata warrior monk garrisons. Bedankt.

[@pliffregrub6167]

Nice guide dude, I was thinking of playing shogun 2 again so keep up the good work..

[@Pyrrhus0331]

The Ikko Ikki are my favorite clan, but it took awhile for them to grow on me. Prior to them I enjoyed playing as the Date clan the most. I did not like the Ottomo as much as I thought I would. hmm

[@claysmith3141]

I always get my ass kicked when I play as them because of the religious spread I get war declared on both sides and run back and fourth defending a large stretch of land and idk how to defend a two front war against multiple clans

[@starrett8063]

Clay Smith I agree, I have accomplished all of the clans in very hard difficulty but this Ikko Ikki. I always lack of money and army in my Ikko Ikki campaign......

[@ObileenS]

I still want my Date. :>

[@juliusmoe-nstar8942]

You sly bastard you

[@TheShrewdMonarch]

I don’t think charges are at all sly

[@stephencosta8671]

This is a very interesting look at Shogun 2 clans. Very good stuff, keep it up man!

[@serathaevistille995]

My first campaign, which I just finished yesterday, my final boss of the game was the Ikko Ikki. I didn't think they'd be too powerful, though I had heard the stories, I was confident in my army... My army barely scraped by in a fight with them. Granted, my management skills during battles are pretty bad, but still. I was perplexed as to how their armies just didn't seem to route. And they weren't even using Warrior Monks, just Sword Ashigaru. Which, was part of the problem, they demolished my Yari Ashigaru repeatedly. Still won the campaign though.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Did you make sure to put your Yari Ashigaru in Yari Wall? They’ll demolish loan-swords.

[@serathaevistille995]

@@MrSmartDonkeyLP I did, full line of like eight of them, with Bow Warrior Monks behind, Two katana samurai on each flank too. And they had to charge up hill towards me.I don't know what I did wrong, but the battle was a mess. Still won, though.

[@JonatasMonte]

The Ikko Ikki work as the Uesugi should have worked in many ways. Seriously you get warrior monks ridiculously fast

[@fireblast8972]

Tokugawa pls?

[@Remitonov]

Probably my second favourite clan next to the Otomo. There's a certain catharsis in inciting entire armies of warrior monks in a rebellion and having them join your ranks, right next to overwhelming heathens with missionaries inciting God-fearing rebels. Normal monks just leave me tearing my hair out.

[@diapason89]

We all know why the Ikko Ikki's your favorite. They have an orange mon.

[@555sarin]

In the word of Extra Credit "Gun Monks".

[@isaweesaw]

Monks....with guns

[@Orhan6125]

Just re-installed this wonderful game. This video was very helpful thanks!

[@Shadesofone]

I love how you say East and West even though the map is clearly sideways haha

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Oh god, another one of these... Look up a map of Japan and compare it to the map in-game, the difference really isn't that big. West is still west, and east is still east, and even if it was turned 180 degrees upside down I still wouldn't change what I said. Why confuse the viewer by following a real life map rather than using the one provided in game, how dumb would that be?

[@Shadesofone]

MrSmartDonkeyLP Dude no offence haha, it's the first video I saw about the game so that came to mind. The video is great by the way!

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Ah, my bad. Sorry for the overreaction, I've just gotten so many of those comments and it's sort of gotten on my nerves now. Anyway, glad you liked the video, hope my response to your comment didn't scare you off from watching more.

[@Shadesofone]

MrSmartDonkeyLP of course not. Your stuff is great, like the sense of humor as well

[@JCDenton3]

Whoa, matchlocks not good? Fire by rank broken? Man, you gotta attack with them in fire by rank not sit there, kind of odd but it works. I've tested fights of just yari and matchlock ashigaru vs all samurai armies and can wipe them out completely, and it being over half the cost means you can spread out as needed for realm divide. Give it a shot, pike and shot that is! ;)

[@-----Alcatraz------]

I wish these guys werent a DLC

[@colmoe]

Wooo my favorite clan! Ty MSD

[@lazyeye642]

Too bad they don't have Metsuke. My favourite agent as he's able to bribe armies

[@LillianKoi]

Hey! Great video overall! I loved it! Can you do a video on Oda? I'm having a really hard time right now, also because I really like Oda!

[@urbangaming2214]

Ikko Ikki has always been my favorite clan

[@mkratos17]

This one and the Christian clan are my favorites

[@mackycabangon8945]

guess you like having a unique religion

[@comic-concon5602]

Still playing in 2020 lockdown

[@Tichrai2]

matchlock ashigaru are really good on walls for defence :)

[@newindika849]

Ikko Ikki are a very difficult clan to play with. First off your main problem during the campaign is your economy. Your income is very low and you don't have metsukes. Warrior monks are awesome, but expensive. The second difficult part is where you decide to expand. Forget about Omi, you can't defend it. So either north or south. Both are viable but going north is safer. You don't have access to nanban ships, so you can't defend the sea properly and the AI is very prone to do naval invasions. The only good thing about Ikko Ikki is that you start with an early realm divide. Everyone is going to declare war on you as soon as you border them. The key to survive this campaign is to spam ashigaru loan sword everywhere. Cheap & deadly. Temples are awesome. 2nd tier temples gives you two free warrior monks garrison. It's possible to win a legendary campaign with them but without doubt they are the most difficult clan to play with.

[@tiramisuoais9302]

lol can relate this is my 5th attempt to play ikko ikki on hard mode before i watch mrsmart donkey video.

[@olly8435]

i think matchlocks are great. playing hojo on very hard and in combination with cannons and bombs the enemy usually breaks before getting close to my spearline and they are great on defence. but hey im no expert, just i have been finding them usefull. although perhaps they dont work well with ikko unit comp

[@johnpascua3351]

Is it worth it to to make the Ashikaga as vassals? I had my ninja assassinate the whole family and with that I can make them my vassal, does it give realm divide?

[@Gekkibi]

How is Fire By Rank broken? Can't be more broken than line infantry in Empire... ;)

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Turns out generally firing without Fire By Rank is much faster because sometimes putting your units in Fire By Rank means they just stand there not doing anything, and other times it just takes them much longer than it has too. Someone did the math at some point and this is the result: i.ytimg.com/vi/4a2MUT_KkGk/maxresdefault.jpg

[@Gekkibi]

***** Isn't rapid volley a separate skill? Note that only recently I started to play Shogun 2 after having a 4 year long hiatus-phase, and even back then I didn't value matchlock units highly, so I know very little when it comes to boomsticks. The only thing I can vaguely remember is that fire by rank worked if you play defensively. Maybe I should do some tests in the custom battles. Who knows, maybe a patch made it worse - just like a patch made the coop campaign worse. :(

[@jonnypasta]

it is because when a unit is killed, another unit from the line behind it goes to fill up the space, during which the whole firing process is halted

[@warvester]

Xalxitz please read above. The downside for fire by rank is that if they are damaged, more units have to fill up gaps in the lines before firing. Also it takes a while for them to shoot something.

[@musAKulture]

which of their songs did you use? they got wayyy to many (your backgroudn music)

[@flle6322]

I didn’t have the option to start with the Ikko Ikki for a campagne. It ’s in a DLC?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Yup, it’s a DLC.

[@takashishin8282]

It actually makes sense in their history. They rebelled against samurai and their beliefs. So a lot of villagers and people who are monks would gladly join these types of individuals.

[@crusaderofthelowlands3750]

Ikko Ikki, masters of Terrorism. Also, max armour ranked loan swoard ashigaru are the best friend you will ever have. Cheap upkeep and an absolute beast on the battlefield. Because you can spam and due to their low up-keep cost you can send wave after wave after wave.

[@ReviveHF]

They are know as the Soviet of Sengoku Era.

[@warvester]

Grand Moff Tarkin that would be Oda

[@haibigboy]

I've always wondered: what do those big balls stuck after the general bodyguards' backs do?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

It protects them from arrows in the back. It's simply a bit of cloth that fills like a balloon because of the wind. The way it's displayed in Shogun 2 is odd since it's always a balloon, but in real life it would only blow up when a general was moving. If an arrows hits it, it will slow down enough to not puncture his armour.

[@haibigboy]

***** Thanks, it's odd though that the general himself doesn't have it to protect him.

[@Kalenz1234]

The fact that Naginata Monk Cav beats Yari Cav seems insane to me. How can they overcome that +7 vs +15 vs cav difference? (Not to mention Yari cav also has better charge and armor). There must be some weird shenanigans going on in the background. Maybe they have a higher attack speed?

[@herrdoctor2895]

I was playing Otomo and I just got a suprised of my life, the Honma took 78% of the map

[@dennisvisser3910]

Has herrsy. You know wat is fun convert all of japan😂😂😂 Just like with cristianity with the portoquese units. Witch are quite broken. And there is a mod that fixes the fire by rank ability. And u can also get the kneel by rank ability. Witch is just slightly difrent and has a little faster animation.

[@AntiqueMiner]

Hojo would be an interesting clan to cover :D

[@Molotov_Milkshake]

The fucking Jinbo were the first to invade me when I played Ikko Ikki lol.

[@janmajnik6889]

Very nice videos. Although you are a bit hard to understand sometimes :) I'm very good at understanding English and I actually like when people talk fast but I just feel you eat up the letters too much. Sorry for the hate but take it as constructive criticism. Also I don't know if English is your mother language. But other than that like I said, awesome videos! Keep it up.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

It’s something I’m working on. My English is excellent if I do say so myself but I do have a tendency to speak too quickly, especially in scripted videos like this. It used to be worse though, I think I’m pretty understandable now. Could always slow the video down to .5x speed too.

[@CanadaMMA]

The Ikko Ikki are the toughest clan for me, simply because they can't train metsuke. I end up struggling for gold for too long. I think they are the only ones I've never cleared the game with.

[@schizosamurai8840]

Should be *can recruit large units of ashigaru, strong but with high morale

[@Michael-lc4gr]

You mentioned the metsuke making you gold I believe? How is that? I thought you just used them to apprehend or suppress townsfolk.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jGPSkK2FlNyKnqc

[@LionbugLP]

no metsuke is SUCH a negative trait, legendary is impossible for Ikko xd

[@kuvy0jhm00b]

i might just be a straight noob, but i think the Ikko Ikki are one of the hardest unit to start off with. compared to the Date Clan where you start north you can easily sustain defensive fights and conquering from north to south, in my eyes way easier then having to fight and defend on two fronts. go east but then u have the west to worry about. ive win 1/10 games with the Ikko Ikki because even when taking Sado and some of the eastern side. it never fails in my game that once try to go for Echigo or the area with wood that you have early trade with from another clan with, forgot there name. by then you have somewhat of a choke point but even then u have to be precise about next move. Echigo is a gamble move because there like 3 ways you can enter from so defending that is just as painful. but like i said i might just be a noob.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

The Ikko Ikki are definitely one of the harder clans to play at the start, I think the Date have a more difficult starting position that it looks but they're still among the easier clans to start as. The Ikko Ikki early game units can easily carry a campaign though, recruit loads of Loan Sword Ashigaru and laugh at the enemies Yari Ashigaru as long as they're out of Yari Wall.

[@MiriBenii]

This clan is so hard. I have tried many times in hard and I just can't crack it. Maybe I just lack the patience to do every battle in a favorable way.

[@justsomechapinatophat5517]

*when you declare war on the Ikko Ikki thinking that they haven't done much and will be easy but then they steamroll you with countless stacks of Ronin from their countless provinces taken from the Takeda, Oda, and the Imagawa*

[@cayden31800]

Just to say it, every campaign IKKO IKKI kick my ass, so either I suck at the game, or they're dumb OP in AI's hands

[@Byenie0912]

I love exploiting the Incite Revolt function of the Ikko Ikki. The instant garrison makes it so I don’t have to produce and army What I don’t like though is when you’re forced to a Realm Divide because suddenly a neighbouring province rebelled and converted to Ikko Ikki

[@papafrankupleasereturn4225]

I swear I've killed at least 25 rebellions of them, they are annoying, always unhappy. But it's fun tho, training for my units.

[@SOLINVCTVS]

Are you going to cover every clan eventually?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

That is the plan, yes.

[@VvodeAn]

i have a question: should i rush the warrior monk skill tree all the way?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Nah, they're pretty expensive so you won't be able to field too many for a while anyway, just get up to Essence of the Spirit and leave it there, although you don't have to rush for that either really, work on economy first and get that after.

[@VvodeAn]

***** okay okay, build the economy first then essence of spirit... what should i do with the sakai? They are eager to attack in almost every playthrough of mine

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Like I said in the video, I tend to vassalize them and attempt to get an alliance with either the Oda or the Hattori and just focus on the east instead. You can easily use Echizen as a choke point, so even if people do decide to declare war on you in the west you can just shove a few units in there and you'll usually be fine.

[@fireblast8972]

MrSmartDonkeyLP is it possible to convert metsukes from other armies as the ikko ikki?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

You can convert them in the same sense as every other faction can, it'll essentially kill them off. You can't convert them to your cause though, no clan can do that sadly.

[@arneverschoor8215]

is it actually worth to do the traits that make your general convert towns faster when he levels up?

[@ecabernet]

Where does the info about fertile soil show? Or is that a hidden stat?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

When looking at the buildings in your town, you can see it by hovering over your farm building. You can only see it on your own towns though, not those of other clans.

[@ecabernet]

Ok thanks for fast reply!

[@P4TRICCS]

"matchlock ashigaru is pretty bad* *me who try to get them asap and only use them over bow units* -IMPOSSIBLE!

[@charliekoughing866]

Any other clan: "This land is mine." Me: *laughs in Ikko Monk*

[@christov4202]

How do you stop Hattori ninja in the early game? I struggle to stop getting assassinated 😞

[@juri-arturmae6067]

How do you unlock Otomo, Ikko Ikki and Hattori?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Buy the DLC.

[@anssirepo8180]

What an amazing timeless game they made. Don git much beda dan dis.

[@ormagodendio2893]

Nice video uesugi next?

[@YangMoses]

what is your background music?

[@nickybps5857]

can you please do a clan overview of clans in Fall of samurai

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I've done a few already.

[@NgJackal1990]

Your army compo are always expensive

[@KonigVonNord]

are they available for the fall of the samurai dlc?

[@DeathcastGaming]

But have you mentioned the orange mon?

[@quaternarytetrad4039]

Jinbei never attack? The Jinbei always declare war on me

[@pisk0r]

I'm waiting for Uesugi but that's not the most popular clan i guess, so they ll be prob at the end of this series

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

I also have the least knowledge of them since I've never finished a campaign with them, so they probably will be somewhere towards the end indeed.

[@tomthestone1470]

Say what buildings should I do with the unique resources? Weaponsmith/armoursmith? Fletcher/paper mill?

[@isaiahalbright7072]

Has the Tokoguwa series been halted? I really enjoyed it :(

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

No, the last episode went up just a few days ago. Next episode was supposed to go up today but because I accidentally uploaded the wrong Ikko Ikki Challenge episode yesterday I had to upload the right one today.

[@isaiahalbright7072]

MrSmartDonkeyLP Great! That series is like virtual crack

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

Glad to hear that :).

[@ajdndjfhakrhrbrign4435]

As a ck2 player, is it a sin too convert people with this clan?

[@andrewbergheim5238]

Could you do another FotS campaign at some point? There seems to be a real lack of content for that game out there, especially as Shogunate factions. An Aizu campaign could be interesting.

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

More FotS is definitely on the table. No idea when though.

[@Hell_O7]

Huh, didn't know the loan sword has monk-ish models

[@maycontainnuts3127]

excuse me are you willing to back up that egregious claim you made against matchlock ashigaru?

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

What egregious claim would that be? This video is 5 years old, I don't remember what I said word for word.

[@kalinghulan2435]

Coll vid

[@SKErwin2]

ashigaru+blacksmith=win

[@ttgamer3092]

I can't find that the ikko ikki clan is it dlc or you unlock them somehow

[@MrSmartDonkeyLP]

It's a DLC.

[@AquaticSkipper]

What do you mean when you say Fire by Rank is broken?

[@whatarenames]

It doesn't work

[@cantstopmygo420]

"a 34 year old car company" I just fucking died xD

[@jirehoracion8889]

No place has seen more blood in these videos other than the rice fields.