The 20 second Backwards B tier list is coming sooner then I expected
@nocturn3332 жыл бұрын
Hoping crouching down back tilt tierlist is next.
@PROPLAYEN2 жыл бұрын
i want neutral smash tier list personally
@charKT-74612 жыл бұрын
Hope we get the spot-dodge attack tier list soon
@alexdigg2 жыл бұрын
Esam analysing Roy's side b: Can you imagine if this move was on ROY?
@imESAM2 жыл бұрын
Its true
@nedcurfman34862 жыл бұрын
@@imESAM a single Koopaling gets a huge buff. I’m down for this stupidity
@superstupidsongs24552 жыл бұрын
TIMESTAMPS 0:00 - Ice Climbers, Sheik, Lucario, Greninja, Hero, Banjo & Kazooie 3:55 - Megaman, Kirby, Zelda, Yoshi, Dr. Mario/Mario 6:00 - Mr. Game & Watch, Mewtwo, Bowser, Incineroar, Jigglypuff 8:20 - Sonic, Steve, Pit/Dark Pit, Pichu, ESAM 11:00 - Lucas, Luigi, Duck Hunt, Wii Fit Trainer 13:05 - Rosalina, Kazuya, Peach, King K. Rool, Young Link 15:05 - Link, Joker, King Dedede, Olimar, Simon/Richter 17:40 - DK, Pac-Man, Little Mac, Inkling, R.O.B., Zero Suit Samus 20:50 - Ridley, Min Min, Sora, Samus, Toon Link, Bayonetta, Meta Knight 24:20 - Robin, Shulk, Ness, Bowser Jr., Wario, Isabelle, Villager 27:35 - Palutena, Piranha Plant, Snake, Roy, Chrom, Lucina, Marth 30:20 - Corrin, Diddy, Wolf, Ken, Ryu, Sephiroth 33:20 - Falco, Fox, Byleth, Cloud, Captain Falcon, Ike 35:45 - Ganondorf, Terry, Squirtle, Ivysaur, Charizard 39:00 - Mythra, Pyra, Miis Btw I make dumb videos lol
@lastnamefirstname86552 жыл бұрын
thanks!
@Alex-qm1ku2 жыл бұрын
ESAM the entire video: "This side-b is busted, I mean, imagine this side-b on Roy" ESAM, on Roy’s side-b: "This side-b is BUSTED"
@gabethebabe4262 жыл бұрын
Im really enjoying these new tier list videos on the moves, its really interesting
@davidc.2 жыл бұрын
I also am wish we would get 2 a week
@alejandrojaramillo99102 жыл бұрын
😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡😡
@baoh.89922 жыл бұрын
Same, I'm learning a lot
@toastedtarts40442 жыл бұрын
It helps me a lot since i’m pretty bad at the game but would love to get better
@onlyhumanmusic35932 жыл бұрын
Not to mention educational for casual smash players like me who wanna get better
@scallopy75462 жыл бұрын
Esam's opinion on Yoshi's side b is truly an Esam's opinion. That's probably one of the worst moves in the game, so bad in fact, that if Yoshi's side b did NOTHING that would be a buff because people wouldn't SD with it anymore.
@monkeyman12552 жыл бұрын
Yoshi with no side B > Yoshi with side B
@ragnarok37032 жыл бұрын
Yoshi side b slept on Fr
@monkeyman12552 жыл бұрын
Tbh the move isn't that bad if you're intentionally using it, but literally nobody does when you have the rest of Yoshi's toolkit
@z-rossi36722 жыл бұрын
@@ragnarok3703 oh ya.... thats why all these yoshis are winning in tournaments, that OP Yoshi SideB cheese....
@iliya19332 жыл бұрын
@@monkeyman1255 The only reason it isn’t bad if you use it intentionally is that it’s kind of hard to punish. But the chances you actually deal damage or create an advantage state with it are so slim, you might as well just use the rest of Yoshi’s tools.
@darthdistortion19342 жыл бұрын
Crazy how often Mewtwo's moves are S tier on these lists but the character himself is not regarded as good. Man's got a top tier kit in a bottom tier body, ignoring his insane speed stats
@MrBrodie24682 жыл бұрын
Being super light, easy to hit and having a bad double jump is a bad combination.
@paulnewton22842 жыл бұрын
@@MrBrodie2468 Mewtwo's double jump isn't necessarily bad, there are trade-offs, but the negatives of the floaty jump definitely exacerbate Mewtwo's weaknesses (big body + low weight).
@MrBrodie24682 жыл бұрын
@@paulnewton2284 it has very slow start up, making it harder to escape too
@ricocarpenter21892 жыл бұрын
Similar story for Incineroar. Amazing moves but absolutely garbage physics
@emanueltheodorus10562 жыл бұрын
@@ricocarpenter2189 And also Ganon. Broken ass Dash, Smash Attacks, and Aerials, but absolute shit movement.
@KDComeback2 жыл бұрын
“Sonics side b is broken, plays the game for you” *shows clip of his down b*
@jmann5312 жыл бұрын
I couldn't tell the difference lol.
@straymaikol2 жыл бұрын
this is the issue with the smash scene - they call it broken but they dont even understand the move, or how its different in both use and visuals. youd think with how much uproar there was over online sonic, people wouldve learnt the matchup by now. but ig its easier to just complain - could just be esam's editor not knowing to be fair, since the properties he described were accurate, but yeah, this always bothers me when it is misrepresented since if they actually knew the differences, i feel like a lot of the things they hate about spin dash is a mixture of both spin charge and spin dash benefits combined
@chacha43432 жыл бұрын
@@straymaikol I think the fact that people can't tell the difference between the two moves just shows how badly they're designed, so we have the right to complain. If I asked someone, "What's the difference between Samus's Side-B and her Down-B?" that's a simple question to answer. Same with Ness. Same with Mewtwo. Same with King Dedede. But if I asked a random smash player, "What's the difference between Sonic's Side-B and his Down-B?" most people wouldn't know. That's straight-up bad, regardless of understanding.
@idklol76232 жыл бұрын
@@chacha4343ive literally forgotten what sonic down B looks like
@chacha43432 жыл бұрын
@@idklol7623 It's yellow instead of blue. I only know this because my brother used to be a sonic main
@Glitch-ww7iz2 жыл бұрын
something alot of people forget is that pac's pellet in his side b can be used to block projectiles on stage and if the projectile travels on the ground (ex terry's power wave) it can keep tanking them until it despawns
@sayzar94742 жыл бұрын
Zelda side b at least has use un edge guarding. There’s no way it’s as bad as egg roll or hammer flip.
@survivorofthecurse7172 жыл бұрын
You can usually just throw out an attack to straight up cancel it out. Plus, it leaves you quite open, so the rewards aren't good enough for the risks. Also, it's not just "it's bad", it's also "How many other characters would really want Din's Fire?" Due to how many other people have really good options, they wouldn't. That's why hero has a really good one: whiff punish tool, does strong damage, isn't too hard to access, and counts as a melee and not a projectile
@jpp31452 жыл бұрын
Zelda main here. There are times I wish I didn’t have a side b because then I couldn’t input it when I was trying to displace my phantom.
@sayzar94742 жыл бұрын
@@survivorofthecurse717 yes but if you try to attack dins fire while you’re being edgeguarded by it it’ll put you in a worse position so even if the attack doesnt land it’s still good for something. I would put it up a tier maybe toward the bottom because it’s not almost entirely useless like the other two are
@sayzar94742 жыл бұрын
@@jpp3145 that’s more input problems than anything. And that could be said about any move when you’re trying to do a different one lol
@survivorofthecurse7172 жыл бұрын
It would be very rare that a person would attack offstage while it's being used. People don't attack, they mix up recoveries. What's more is that it's very slow to use. Like, name me a person who would want Zelda side b over snake side b and I'll show you someone who may or may not need their head examined
@ellie82722 жыл бұрын
"gale stab is a better Ike side b" > Ranks it below Ike side b
@Hotrodd482 жыл бұрын
This the comment I was looking for
@belakthrillby2 жыл бұрын
Krool's side B is nice. Just watch how well KirbyKid is able to use it and then imagine if it belonged to a character with better mobility to capitalize on the people who try to challenge it or if it was on a good zoner like the Belmonts or Samus.
@dockingwater17132 жыл бұрын
The whole "Hammer Flip is worse then Egg Roll" is completely baffling to me. Is Hammer Flip good? Not really, but it's sure as hell better than Egg Roll. Same with Din's Fire. There is no way in hell Egg Roll isn't the worst Side B in the game.
@HD-nb7kw2 жыл бұрын
Probably the worst move in the game.
@doriyah28492 жыл бұрын
@@HD-nb7kw mac up air
@SunshineRey Жыл бұрын
@@doriyah2849 in a vacuum, it’s a decent combo move, and on mac it can combo into like half of his kit (even angled up f-smash at certain percents). Egg roll and Jigglypuff’s Rollout are easily the worst moves cause they do LITERALLY NOTHING to help anyone, even on the kits of these characters. You can SD so easily off stage and if you hit a wall, you go flying off to your almost certain death
@343Films2 жыл бұрын
Personally I don't understand how Bowser's side-b isn't top 5 here. Very fast, out of shield command grab that can be used just as quickly mid-air. AND it kills most fighters around 100-130% from ANYWHERE on stage so long as there are platforms. On anything other than Final Destination, the move is absolutely broken.
@guacodile25282 жыл бұрын
Maybe it's cuz it's tiny and has like 40 frames of endlag
@linkonedgell8942 жыл бұрын
Man really said that yoshi side b was better than zeldas.
@MannyForReal2 жыл бұрын
Fun things about Mac side b. It has 3 frames of full body s on the ground and continued s from the waist below. This can be used to go through projectiles, go through attacks like a Marth fair (hard to time), and can be a combo breaker on the ground against specific combos. It's also a great combo ender mainly off of utilt, dtilt, and dthrow (frame trap). For recovery there's a good amount of mixups since you can mixup the timing of when the hitbox comes out. There's also a tech called wavemaker which gives it a shortened range that let's it combo better in some situations and can be used to microwave your recovery. Against some characters it can be good at edge guarding (krool, cf, Ganon, ect.) And it can help you get off the ledge against certain thing like if hydrant was placed at ledge you can drop down haymaker to knock it out and regrab ledge. If a character that had a crazy recovery or a better dthrow had this man that'd be so terrifying.
@ABAgamer_2 жыл бұрын
What’s more is it can hit opponents on platforms when Mac’s below them because of the hitbox at the beginning.
@RandomNirvanaSXE2 жыл бұрын
You can also hold onto ZSS side B which then instead flicks the opponent up into the air. Having an extra option is just another reason why it's so good.
@desmondcoppin5912 жыл бұрын
As a dedede main, Gordo’s are super good. Extremely good for landing options, and it’s super good for keeping an opponent just generally off you if you’re in the air, so it makes up super well for dededes slow airspeed. It’s awful if you’re thinking of it as an offensive tool, but as a defensive tool, to keep your opponent from juggling, or killing you off the side, it’s great.
@rooticusthugrate2 жыл бұрын
After you finish this series of videos, you should do one where you choose what would be the best combination of moves on each weight class
@noyd41722 жыл бұрын
I clicked into the video at 23:02 and was not prepared for that noise you made lmao
@Manganimemer2 жыл бұрын
I agree with mostly everything here… except when you said that Mythra’s Neutral B is her other worst move besides her Side B. Lighting Buster is straight up jank as hell, and this is coming from a Pyra/Mythra main: has invincibility on startup, has a charging hitbox, is frame 9 uncharged, kills super early, is nearly unpunishable if spaced correctly, can be turned around for mixups, scoops from behind, and does anywhere from like 15-35 damage. NGL I thought this move was for sure gonna be nerfed.
@darthdistortion19342 жыл бұрын
It's insanely strong as a reversal tool and even as a landing option. The fr3 invul was designed to compensate her not being grab invul on dodges but then it just made the move cracked because they made it scoop both sides just to, once again, protect her from grabs and command grabs But the reason why people think it's her worst though is because obviously if you whiff if you're whiffing 4 attacks while being vulnerable from directly above (unless the 2nd and 4th hit anti air you lmao)
@imESAM2 жыл бұрын
What’s worse than it
@jmann5312 жыл бұрын
Its funny because sakurai in her presentation said it doesn't hit behind
@Manganimemer2 жыл бұрын
@@imESAM I’d say probably her down air: 13 frame start-up, making it one of her slowest moves, doesn’t set up into anything and isn’t part of any combos like her other aerials, -7 on shield so not any more or less safe than her other aerials, not a spike like Pyra’s, and only does like 8-10ish damage. Like, I’d say it’s probably her 2nd worse move just because there’s very little reason to use it. Along with of course the slow start up (compared to her other moves).
@Manganimemer2 жыл бұрын
@@jmann531 yeah queue up the “so that was a f*cking lie” meme 😂
@valkyrie55792 жыл бұрын
If Banjo side-b wasn’t limited to 5 per stock, it’d be a solid contender for best in the game imo. It’s *CRAZY* good at tech chases, sharking platforms, and catching unsafe landings. Plus it essentially makes recovery free because no one wants to go offstage to challenge when you have charges left. It’s also very funny to use it against up-bs that don’t snap to ledge (Chrom, Ike, Terry). The amount of sets I’ve clutched out because I get a few nice reads with it is crazy. If it was something I could use as much as I wanted, it’d be too good. Well done Nintendo for balancing it in an interesting way.
@chasebranson90292 жыл бұрын
I saw a video where Esam said that no one uses pika nair like he does, so I figured out another way to use nair that is easy. Double backwards up tilt into short hop up air into fast fall nair, it is super easy and at the end you can use a free move. Make sure they start at zero or low percents! Please like I want a lot of people to know this I’m not even a pikachu main I’m a DK, that is how easy the combo is.
@unskilledgamer36422 жыл бұрын
Imagine if Lucario's side b would be Bone Rush like in Pokken. That would be useful.
@finsoto69362 жыл бұрын
Please keep doing these these are so fun to leave on while working and just fun to watch.
@KotaWebb2 жыл бұрын
Agreed, nice fun way to pass the time
@theodore63.842 жыл бұрын
37:59 this was really cute. very cool 10/11
@gamexpert19902 жыл бұрын
Regarding Mii Swordfighter's "Zoomy-Spinny" move: Even in the air, you can actually act out of it, including using another side-B, but only if you do something immediately. Otherwise you go into freefall.
@neidenMetalun2 жыл бұрын
Yup, a weird delayed freefall only if you don't buffer anything after it
@AverageDoctor3452 жыл бұрын
It's sort of like Sora's up b in that regard, only he isn't limited to side b.
@alliedmussel10112 жыл бұрын
Whenever I think about how good incin’s kit is I get upset. That character NEEDS more speed
@abitzz12 жыл бұрын
His kit is so good his low speed is the only thing keeping him in check. Fast incin would be busted af.
@linkonedgell8942 жыл бұрын
@@abitzz1 yeah but a small speed buff would only make him like mid or high tier and that's not a major issue.
@alliedmussel10112 жыл бұрын
@@abitzz1 yeah i mean i'm not saying make him as fast as like zss or roy but like maybe 3rd slowest run speed in the game is a bit much
@samk24072 жыл бұрын
id support nerfing the damage/knockback of revenge and side b and maiking him faster i think that would make him better and more fun
@alliedmussel10112 жыл бұрын
@@samk2407 tbh I don’t even think that’d be necessary. Him being faster (let’s say as fast as ness, another character who really appreciates grab but isn’t necessarily fast) would immediately make alolan whip less necessary since his other moves would have more range they would threaten and if you nerf revenge it just makes him even worse against projectile characters (even with a ground speed buff).
@Sponsie10002 жыл бұрын
Bro BowserJr sideB is actually busted for recovery because you can sideB into sideB if you spin out,, l've seen Jr get sent to the left-blastzone of Battlefield at about ledge-height and go sideB, spin-out, jump, sideB, jump-out, upB and to recover at the Right ledge of battlefield
@isaiahvalentin3392 жыл бұрын
I’m not gonna lie. I don’t see how wario, falco, incineroar, or charizard is on top but peach, the links, lucas a tier under them. I’m no pro so I’m not saying my opinion is valid but I just feel like they’re safer, has more utility and over all bring more to the table than most of the people on the top
@KJV_Enjoyer.2 жыл бұрын
true
@jaysibiri2 жыл бұрын
Wii fit ball is busted. It spikes and it can be used at ledge but you can also snipe with it from too far away and you can cancel it by shielding and you have a huge number of angles it can go. For example, you can cancel it at ledge and do a single jab to edge guard. It’s sooo versatile.
@Tonjit412 жыл бұрын
Phrasing
@tetrisgoat2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate your efforts in these videos, editor. Good explanations (eg negative edge), relevant comments and tries to find/make good clips to show Esam's talking points. Important to me that you get good response and feedback so you keep doing it. :)
@tehli67262 жыл бұрын
Agreed
@universeimagination74952 жыл бұрын
*sees Steve minecart at the top of the list* Good, as it should be.
@rafaelblackman9879 Жыл бұрын
Mega Man’s crash bomber gives him really good shield pressure and damage when it connects. Like a worse Sephiroth side b, it forces the opponent to pick an option before it explodes which can be taken advantage of.
@charKT-74612 жыл бұрын
Every single time I see anything related to Incineroar, it reminds that it's the perfect example of how important mobility is in Smash. Incineroar has really good moves all throughout, not a single genuinely bad move (maybe Cross Chop), yet the only reason it's not broken is because it's the slowest character in Smash history.
@LoliPeeSlurper2 жыл бұрын
This can be said to Steve too
@charKT-74612 жыл бұрын
@@LoliPeeSlurper no. Steve’s moves are broken as is, and he has decent mobility with Minecart and Elytra, and only his jump height is terrible
@anttar74612 жыл бұрын
kirbys full fsmash kills at 40 near the ledge while his full side b kills at 15 at ledge. i wouldnt say “barely stronger than fsmash on a shield break”
@Doffito-k2 жыл бұрын
YO IM HYPED FOR THE GET UP ATTACK TIERLIST
@AfRoToAd2 жыл бұрын
Dins fire should be a tier above, Banjos side b isn’t that good considering it can only be used 5 times and the start up is reactable. Yoshis side b is 100% the worst side b in the game. Idk how Rosas side b is better than someone like Palus but okay. And Peaches side b should be in top tier. Those are the only things I think should be adjusted in this tier list
@Jfray2522 жыл бұрын
Banjos side b is actually good, it can only be used 5 times but it is per stock, so he rarely limited, otherwise i agree with and no way fire blitz i considered busted
@gameboyn642 жыл бұрын
I think robin's arc fire is a bit high. The move is really slow. It realistically doesn't hit till like frame 30-40. The hit box is actually really small and starts well above Robin's head meaning that there's a blind spot right in front of Robin. There is also the issue that just about every attack in the game goes right through it. The move also has the total frames of a slow smash attack taking 63 frames to complete meaning that it is very unsafe on whiff. The six use limit actually really sucks. It means that you can't spam, you can miss opportunities that you would other wise be able to capitalize on, can cause you to drop combos, and if you forget you are out you still suffer through the whole animation of the move.
@spencer79832 жыл бұрын
can't wait for the back b tier list
@ashtoric2 жыл бұрын
Haven't watched the video yet but if Pit's (not Dark Pit's) isn't bottom 5 I'd be upset lmao what a terrible move edit: Bruh killing off the top doesn't matter if it's one of the most inconsistent and laggy moves in the entire game, it's so easy to see it coming with the terrible startup (offline), has sooooo much lag if whiffed or shielded (Dark Pit's does more shield damage so it's a little better there), the super armor is inconsistent and since the attack is frame 2 when a hurtbox is detected, the first frame doesn't have super armor so it either trades or just loses to even the weakest moves. I remember testing once and if you parry Pit sideB and buffer Lucas usmash, it's a true punish. The laggiest usmash in the game is a true punish on Pit sideB parried on shield. And snake fsmash is also ONE FRAME off of being a true punish on parry too, so Pit has to take the shield damage and hold shield against it to avoid getting hit by it if his sideB is parried. Compared to the lagless sideBs of Falcon, Pika, Pichu, and Peach, Pit's sideB is atrocious. While it kills off the top so it's more "consistent" (even though it can be DI'd easily), its risk to reward isn't anywhere close to Dark Pit's, who can set up for edgeguarding which the Pits are better at than juggling (from Pit sideB). So yeah I kinda disagree lol mostly because the frame data is too atrocious to ignore
@connerfiliatreault89072 жыл бұрын
tech chases :/
@ashtoric2 жыл бұрын
@@connerfiliatreault8907 get a wrong read and you’re punished for it lmao it’s not a good tech chase option
@crucibleberri2 жыл бұрын
Upperdash and Electroshock Arms are both bottom 10 side specials in the game
@armaanlatheef78972 жыл бұрын
Will you be making a "the best character" vid after the tier list where you make the best character by selecting each move?
@LoliPeeSlurper2 жыл бұрын
Steve is consistently on top tier 👀
@LichHero2 жыл бұрын
I strongly disagree with king k rool. You act like it's supposed to be a close up neutral tool. For that purpose it sucks like you say. But it is rather supposed to be a counterprojectile. If King K and any other character throw projectiles at each other at the same time, King K wins the interaction. Only exception is Wolf. Also returning crown combos into almost everything.
@TheBigA492 жыл бұрын
Ganons side b is worse than ganons -Esam 2022
@HD-nb7kw2 жыл бұрын
Din's fire according to Esam: bad. Stealth shot which is basically the same: BUSTED.
@electroflame61882 жыл бұрын
stealth shot is faster and stronger so it makes sense
@HD-nb7kw2 жыл бұрын
@@electroflame6188 Not to be at opposite ends of the tier list.
@Storm-jj6nq2 жыл бұрын
I liked this video! Love that you didn’t completely trash marth this time
@skillshare3852 жыл бұрын
Down B will be intresting, for sure
@AccelgorTheNinja2 жыл бұрын
It's pretty telling that DDD is in Meh and side-b is his entire playstyle
@MannyForReal2 жыл бұрын
In surprised about the dedede placement but I can see why. As for the ledge trapping tho if you do the double jump thing I feel like you'll just get punished for the regrab or get punished bc you double jumped. Haven't looked into his ledge traps and counterplay though so idk there probably is a good amount of counterplay to it but I wonder what the DDD's counterplay to the counterplay would be
@Jairjax2 жыл бұрын
def be broken on certain characters as a ledge trap, so imo, it should be higher. but hey, i'm bias cus i play him.
@MannyForReal2 жыл бұрын
@@Jairjax I'm imagining Samus having it instead of her side b rn
@Jackaljkljkl2 жыл бұрын
These move tier lists are far better than character tier lists, which have too many variables and guess work (e.g. does even a top really player know, say, Lucario's matchup spread unless they use him?). Move lists are far more linear, as - no matter what character they main - these top players will have faced all of these moves at the highest level, and the frame-data is freely available, too.
@pablo47072 жыл бұрын
Wario's side b is now even better because we know that if he can't use the bike, he can turn around in the air and cancel the animation into an aerial frame 1 or 2, which is so useful in an edgeguarding situation
@pj-wille2 жыл бұрын
I'm not a big fan of thinking about the side Bs independently of the character because, realistically, their side Bs are only gonna be used on them. Still, cool insight.
@pooron_pursuer2 жыл бұрын
Love your content man
@paulnewton22842 жыл бұрын
Another nice thing about Robin's Arcfire, when you use it up you can also throw the tome. To my understanding the tomes are one of the more underwhelming character items (as opposed to, say, Diddy's bananas, ROB's gyro, or the Links' bombs) but they're still pretty strong.
@Nokyyyyy2 жыл бұрын
Hey hey hey, just here to point out that the zoom thing of mii swordfighter allows you to grab the ledge after hitting someone, making it way better than before (idk when it was change, but I'm glad it happend). It's a pretty good tool to dash everywhere at mach speed, even with no charge, but it sure is very punishable
@CaiusMiehela2 жыл бұрын
Can't wait for the pummel tier list
@Tonjit412 жыл бұрын
24:39 Esam not knowing if arc fire activates on shield is pika privilege.
@sdtrawick2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that Shulk's Back Slash is rated as a high "Meh". I never see it used in high level competitive play.
@WrathofArchon2 жыл бұрын
I would argue it’s less about the fact that shulk side b is bad and it’s more or less the fact that he has alot of better moves to use
@willycheez72182 жыл бұрын
He can use it high up for a guaranteed recovery to ledge
@rioranger52682 жыл бұрын
Hear me out: Lucario's side-b is basically just a forward throw
@kevfitzgerald66382 жыл бұрын
25:54 why did yink move down so much without u mentioning anything?
@holdencoppler13602 жыл бұрын
you are the anthony fantano of smash bros.
@cheezyboy25112 жыл бұрын
King K. Rool can get crazy confirms on both the first hit of crown and the second (returning hit). Additionally it can force a shield out for a guaranteed grab if spaced perfectly (should definitely be a tier above imo!)
@onlyhumanmusic35932 жыл бұрын
At around 28:50 talking about snake i hate to say it but no one ever uses this except to spam
@McClappin12 жыл бұрын
If I don’t see a sped up 15 minute rant about Ness and PK Fire I’ll be really surprised
@waveringeyes82772 жыл бұрын
Kudos to the editor.
@AiZm82 жыл бұрын
for Lucina side b, you can actually have them NOT fall out by doing >>v>
@peregrinehawk83632 жыл бұрын
If a Marth player could consistently hit side b with all 4 tippers, The only way to be safe at 30 is be really heavy.
@GarrettStelly2 жыл бұрын
By far the coolest outro on KZbin
@Game2Snow2 жыл бұрын
The thought of Pikachu doing incineroar side b will haunt me forever
@RiftyLuca2 жыл бұрын
Cannot believe sora is so low, if they don’y space it atrociously you have to parry it to punish, they can mix up by choosing not to go all 3 times, and it’s unreactable
@theboi55842 жыл бұрын
Something that interesting to me that differentiates Mii SwordFighters Airborne Assault from Ike’s side special is that you can actually jump out of it, but you have to jump immediately after you stop moving in the air.
@kendukin97252 жыл бұрын
you dont even need to jump it's fully actionable and also kills incredibly early lol
@theboi55842 жыл бұрын
@@kendukin9725 well I was talking recovery wise but yeah
@hitthemelons6333 Жыл бұрын
Yink and Links boomerang have the are the same all across the board until you get to distance they can cover, damage, and knockback. (Which I think the Knockback is the most important since Yinks will always combo) Just watched. Awesome video!
@MooMania42 жыл бұрын
imo kirby side b is meh tier. Its still pretty bad but esam definitly has some missconceptions about this move that juggleboy mentioned in his video. Side b when fully charged is way stronger then fully charged f smash. Its not a bad ledgetrap option as on small battlefield it covers all getup options except roll. Getting a sheild break with it is hard but with enough practice it can be a nice mixup. If a kirby player doesn't know how to dair loop, this is definitly better then dair. still a bad move but not as bad as you say
@radioli3452 жыл бұрын
These Tier Lists are pretty good.
@vgzombie2 жыл бұрын
21:20 LOL switching up from Chrom and Roy by going to Lucina of all characters
@CommanderWaterSoul3 ай бұрын
35:48 Ganondorf is so bad he is worse than himself.
@linkonedgell8942 жыл бұрын
I think that rob side b is underrated, imagine it on like wario or pikachu or sheik. Instead of needing to land on very specific move at specific percents while hold gyro you could just land a nair or up air or back air and they would be dead
@scraps76242 жыл бұрын
Lmao at 38:00 Love these videos man
@Hellwaterva2 жыл бұрын
i bet you will appreciate some compliments won’t you you’re good at pikachu
@Opixer2 жыл бұрын
Nah, Banjo's side special has so much end lag as long as you shield it you can punish him most of the time.
@craftyplayz81502 жыл бұрын
8:32 this clip is cut perfectly
@joey57452 жыл бұрын
What are you going to do whenever you cover B-Air?? It’s without a doubt the best move on everyone’s kit, 9/10 times, tbh you should save this one for last,
@toastmyshoes63962 жыл бұрын
I think nairs are usually better honestly
@bradwilliamson47492 жыл бұрын
Esam, you should watch Juggles' video on Kirby's side B.
@Rubbly2 жыл бұрын
Diddy Kong Racing music throughout!
@samstrong6587 Жыл бұрын
Incineroar side B is top 5. Everyone knows it’s really good but I feel like it’s still underrated bc it’s on a not great character. That move does basically everything
@MasutaMJ2 жыл бұрын
My boy Sora I can admit I've SD'd alot using Sonic Blade. Or it's unsafe on shield and gets punished. If it was the KH1 incarnation of SB but weaker with the same knock back I'd prefer that.
@belikebisharp9 ай бұрын
Little Mac's Side B is like, really good lmao Stupid confirm that kills early af at ledge from a frame 3 tilt Its hitbox is HUGE AF and gets a lot of priority, which makes it really good at snaping ledge (if you have the right timing the hitbox stays while you're invincible and it's SO BUSTED) It's also got some good niche uses, like it can cover a shit ton of options at ledge if spaced and timed well (litteraly everything except Roll but you're standing at Roll distance lmao), can also allow Mac to ledgetrump effectively (which is hard as Mac since he's a fast faller) The ONLY downside of this move is : you don't get it back if you get hit. That's it. If Mac had the fucking Terry treatment this move would be flawless ngl
@peterlemaire75702 жыл бұрын
Surprised DK's side B is only in nice tier. It would be incredible on a lot of characters just because of its super armor as a recovery tool. It just makes a lot of characters' disadvantage a lot better
@wonderful_whiscash95342 жыл бұрын
How tf do you use dk side b to recover
@Tonjit412 жыл бұрын
@@wonderful_whiscash9534 maybe because it grabs ledge mid animation... idk
@scd20092 жыл бұрын
Did toonlinks boomerang really get put in that tier wen it combos into moves for days
@nathanturoff34962 жыл бұрын
K rool's crown has similar kind of combos as Richter.
@omlett64822 жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Tier List TMonday
@Boltizar492 жыл бұрын
Would Buster Wolf count? It’s a double Hado command you can use the B button for.
@mattsmith4572 жыл бұрын
No, but if it was on the list it'd be OK tier because you'd have to be at 100 to use it, it can't be used in the air, does basically no shield damage, has 1 year of end lag, and you pretty much need to cancel into it for it to combo
@peregrinehawk83632 жыл бұрын
Pika with alolan whip wouldn't be healthy for anyone's sanity.
@andrewtaylor58832 жыл бұрын
As a Ridley main. I never touch Side B (outside of recovery). I choose Ftilt over it 100% of the times. I think I'd take Zard's Heatwave in PM.
@iheartcello02 жыл бұрын
The Ice Climbers Sister Twister is busted!!
@J0ulez52 жыл бұрын
Also the 3rd Mii gunner side b is +25 on shield, I think the other Mii gunner moves are still better, but I think it's better than esam rated it
@borntostrive13072 жыл бұрын
Bro if you could use Ryu side b to cancel an aerial, Mario ladders would be even more busted
@tootnoot3074 Жыл бұрын
Toon Link's boomerang actually goes a bit farther than young link
@Rarest262 жыл бұрын
Yeah no, roller caps out at nice. When a bury move is more useful IN THE AIR you know it has problems. WAAAAY too easy to beat, too predictable, too risky, no fucking way it goes on busted.