Improved Bone Meal Farm 1.18+

[@ilmango]

check out pixeils: kzbin.info

[@Xantosh82]

does this work on papermc?

[@xJohnnyD7]

Tagging along, it seems to break on Spigot server. Cobblestone generates and sometimes stone get pushed into the lava

[@라크쉬르]

How can I make this on Bedrock version? I really want to build on it

[@James-gl1vi]

I got the old one working. The improved one breaks for me. the piston timing makes it so it pushes the stone through the lava and extinguishes it.

[@quentinnalherbe7232]

@@James-gl1vi So you use the old version ?

[@greybeardmc]

I love how you and DocM are tag-teaming the builds. First I see a slime farm on your channel then he builds it. He also builds a moss / bonemeal farm and I see it on your channel. Keep it up!

[@travcollier]

DocM has been representing (and crediting) the technical community really well this season IMO. Seems like Hermitcraft has been reinvigorated by folks just relaxing a bit and letting their own different styles of nerd shine. I hope ilmango and other scicrafters are seeing an uptick in views/support.

[@subi_rocks]

That's the GOAT way, T for together 🐐

[@palashverma3470]

That's how the hive mind works!!

[@Kmirl]

Does it work on bedrock Edition 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[@raymondstheawesome]

@@Kmirl bedrock has faster and smaller moss farms

[@AvidEric]

Guys, when you're building this farm, do not forget to put one random item in the hopper/dropper clock two blocks right of the on/off switch! Without that the farm won't turn on.

[@TacticalSatsuma]

Thank you!! I built this from a schematic taken from the world download and it took me AGES to work this out on my own.

[@aszneemabrotha7347]

omg thanks so much

[@reinsh4rt638]

Lifesaver

[@卂I-n3f]

@@TacticalSatsuma i did the same thing lmao

[@butterflame6727]

thanks for the sanity check. litemactica was saying its was correct

[@williamperkins1399]

4:46 You forgot the other 3 great alternatives: end portal frames, ender chests, and enchantment tables

[@AndreSkipper]

End portal frames are such a great idea, gonna use them in my survival

[@ezikhoyo]

@@AndreSkipper LMAO

[@ezikhoyo]

A ender chest would work, but not a chest?

[@racernatorde5318]

@@ezikhoyoNormal chests might actually not work. Wasn't their something about their hitbox beeing a bit wierd at times? Which is also why people used the ender chest for item alligment in water streams. But I have no idea if that is still relevant

[@powder960]

@@racernatorde5318 with a normal chest the hopper would try to pull items from the chest, and would not pick up items on top of the chest

[@racernatorde5318]

Such a clean design and it's so satisfying to watch it working

[@arwenoc]

This is sweet! I think I saw one of the versions in docm77’s video and I’ll probably use this in my smp with my friends. Great farm!

[@mehdithezer0_985]

yeah its the one docm built

[@wChris_]

5:30 If you didnt already watch this to the end!!

[@Haplo-san]

Yep, that's this one I'm pretty sure as docm mentioned ilmango in his episode.

[@romketboi7672]

Without the diamond ore tho lol

[@Grim_medic]

Pretty sure ilmango and doc talk quite a bit. They collaberate.

[@PrinceFlumph]

The other thing with the bonemeal dispenser being put underneath is it allows for the top to be put on display, makes it look a lot cleaner and more fancy!

[@Gobbledi_Gook]

To those wondering: This farm still works in 1.19.4, on singleplayer as well as on multiplayer servers. If the farm is not working for you, there could be several reasons: 1. Make sure you have an item in the hopper clock near the lever that powers the farm. Any item will do, but the farm will not operate without it. 2. Make sure all four dispensers underneath the farm are supplied with bonemeal. Technically, only one needs to have bonemeal to start, but it will take the farm time to build up enough bonemeal to feed the other 3 dispensers. If you want the farm to work and produce bonemeal right away, you would want all four dispensers to be completely full of bonemeal. 3. If the farm's lava keeps turning to stone, it is because you are leaving the chunks the farm is in. If the farm unloads and reloads, especially if it is built on a chunk border, the lava will turn to smooth stone, and the farm must be reset, which is a real pain to do. For best results, make sure that after you turn the farm on, you don't leave the chunks or log out until you turn the farm off again. Also, if your farm breaks and you have to reset it, make sure you remove the cobblestone that forms and don't let any of the pieces fall into your hoppers that feed the composters. If this happens, it will clog one of the composters, reducing your rates. 4. If the farm is STILL not working for you, make sure that you have built it correctly. All of the observers must be facing the right way and all of your repeaters must have the appropriate tick delay set. Use litematica and take a schematic when building to ensure you haven't missed any pieces. 5. This farm for sure works on a vanilla server as well as a fabric server. I can not say if it also works on a forge server, but maybe someone else can reply and verify that.

[@lorzida3166]

у меня проблема. поршни выталкивают камень и люки ломая ферму. могу скинуть скрин или видео

[@Gobbledi_Gook]

@@mihai7320 the best advice I have ate the 5 tips I posted above. Have you tried all of those and it’s still not working?

[@fidelianerina]

Ok, maybe i'm just blind but I don't see a hopper clock? Unless its that really big row of hoppers (which I doubt since it goes into a dispenser). I made sure the dispensers are filled though, i can't test tip 3 cause It won't even start. I gathered all the materials in survival then used the schematic to paste it into the world cause I was struggling to build it up without seeing which way to face certain blocks.

[@fidelianerina]

Ok, maybe i'm just blind but I don't see a hopper clock? Unless its that really big row of hoppers (which I doubt since it goes into a dispenser). I made sure the dispensers are filled though, i can't test tip 3 cause It won't even start. I gathered all the materials in survival then used the schematic to paste it into the world cause I was struggling to build it up without seeing which way to face certain blocks.

[@Gobbledi_Gook]

@@fidelianerina at the end of the long line of hoppers you should have two that have composters over them. You can put your one item in either of those hoppers.

[@mythical7even]

Recently I did a 24/7 tree farm and was looking for a good bone meal farm. This one is perfect! Huge thanks for that ilmango!

[@ThisKittyPlays]

Which farm design did you use? :)

[@wetnoodle5471]

At 5:43, you mentioned that you have to fill in the farm with stone before running it for the first time - there are alternatives. You can use any block that can turn into moss in place of the stone. That means you can use dirt, granite, or even moss if you wish.

[@selulancie]

I would just put stone beneath the water sources, disable the trapdoors from opening until the floor is built by the machine instead

[@joshuarosen6242]

The reason Doc asked was presumably to save himself the minor effort of adding the stone layer so replacing stone with something else wouldn't make it any easier and stone is obviously very cheap.

[@MProducing]

To help out anyone trying to build this farm, I compiled the exact list of resources you need! 8 Lava Buckets 5 Water Buckets 32 Packed Ice 400 Glass 4 Moss 280 Stone 18 Signs 30 Trapdoors 30 Composters 14 Barrels 61 Target Blocks 203 Building Blocks (White Concrete in the Video) 70 Observers 4 Dispensers 4 Droppers 77 Hoppers 155 Redstone Dust 88 Redstone Torches 24 Repeaters 6 Comparators 93 Sticky Pistons 32 Pistons 10 Activator rails 1 Redstone Lamp 1 Lever 4 Noteblocks Lots of Bonemeal (Please tell me if I missed anything!)

[@corne_tns9532]

is this for the 1 module or 5?

[@MProducing]

@@corne_tns9532 just one of the modules

[@PhoenixJSmith]

Just built it using this as a shopping list. I rounded most up to the nearest stack and was golden. Only issue was it needs 8 Lava buckets instead of 6. Bonemeal was 5 full stacks of Bone Blocks (320) to have enough bone meal (2,880) to pre-stage it.

[@joecat7217]

Got a video to show how to build it too, LOL?

[@shifnahawwa8704]

thank u

[@6022]

This is a wonderful machine. Perhaps more accurately, it's a collection of machines all working together. Multiple ingenious timers, stone generator, collection system, moss generator, auto-composter... it's really incredibly how it all goes together.

[@kenzouframe]

This farm need it a diamond ore for building block, improves the efficient by +30%

[@bennettlewis5495]

But it also increases griefing by 100% ;-)

[@88porpoise]

This is possibly my favourite Minecraft farm. It is pretty simple and cheap enough most can build it while providing an extremely useful resource (to facilitate so many other farms) and looking really cool in operation. And the ease of setting up one as an early farm and just expanding it as needed is icing on the cake. And a new, cleaner version is awesome.

[@mortcheman]

If anyone comes to a problem that some of the dispensers aren't converting stone to moss (although they are filled with bonemeal and there is otherwise seemingly nothing wrong with them), try putting something next to them (under the target block) that will cause them to update (a note block, a piston, etc.). It seems like Minecraft sometimes handles block updates incorrectly/unexpectedly.

[@longbow3082]

If that doesnt work, try making sure that the observer that is moved in-between the two pistons is in the same spot as the other side

[@kapawww]

@@longbow3082 THAAAANKS MY DRILLA

[@trashstack]

@@longbow3082 not all heros wear capes

[@Zomrixl]

you are So Goated for this comment. ty!.

[@JacobRoberts-w5e]

@@longbow3082 you are a godsend 🙌

[@LordAJ12345]

I built the old version in my world and I must admit it was a bit clunky to construct. This is definitely more elegant. Still no regrets building it; being able to funnel fully automatic bonemeal directly into my tree farm is a great feeling.

[@mattarchbell]

If you disable the redstone line for the water flusher for the first cycle or two, you do NOT need to place all the stone by hand, just the stone under the waterlogged trapdoors

[@MTBiSLiVE]

Great farm as always, i've been using it for quite a while now, but recently noticed one issue (that i probably already had for quite a while, but i'll get to why i think that) while including some of the carpet autocrafting tables into my farms. Sometimes moss carpets, seeds or (flowering) azealeas will make their way into the output (which in my case is rather unfortunate since it breaks my autocrafting tables and especially the shulker loader behind them. I think i had this problem for a while since in my previous version (without autocrafting tables) i used shulker loaders with filters, but couldn't remember why i built it like that. My suspicion is that these random items make their way into the water stream by glitching through the glass next to the bottom moss block after the top of the moss block is cleared by the piston. I'll look into if i can fit a sneaky lava block that will burn those "artifacts" somewhere and see if that fixes my issue. Update: My suspicion indeed turned out to be true and just adding lava next to the moss block that is bonemealed (basically add lava in the block that the piston pushes against, it will flow over the bonemealed moss block, but does not affect anything) fixes the issue and the output is 100% bonemeal now (tested for around 1 week runtime on my server).

[@rice2634]

genius, works perfectly. i was having the same problem and this fixed it tysm

[@andrasfodor6433]

King

[@Tkonk]

Works great in 1.19 still! I had an odd issue with block updates where every other dispenser would use bone meal once and then not fire anymore (the rest of them worked normally). I put a piston below the adjacent redstone line facing the dispensers to update them and now it works great. It could be an issue with the paper server that I was running on.

[@kasutcarlos967]

I think it os cause by paper, i had the sale issue

[@kevinrobertshaw6479]

OMG needed this, I have only 1 dispenser doing it and it was driving me nuts trying to problem solve it.

[@1110jesse]

I had the same issue and came looking for answers. I did build 2 modules and dispensers 3 and 5 were not working, every other was working fine.

[@BlubberyCheese]

had this issue too, thanks for the solution

[@KIgaming.]

absolute legend, knew it had to do with block updates next to the dispenser but didnt even think of a piston

[@highcommander2007]

This works great in 1.19.2. This is a fantastic farm. I made this farm in my survival world for 1.19 to supply my flower farm (also from your channel). Thanks so much for the world download!

[@bearIyy]

my lava turns to stone

[@martinshoosterman]

@@bearIyy I also had that issue happen once, I have no idea why it happened its so weird, especially given that there is no obsidian, just stone.

[@bearIyy]

@@martinshoosterman I just replaced it multiple times then it worked idk

[@qqq3__]

@@bearIyy same

[@58209]

i was wondering why doc's farm in the latest video had two-wide lava channels. now i know.

[@genoUNLEASHED]

As always superior work! Thank you so much for sharing - works perfectly fine in 1.21 (even with carpet mod slightly edited)

[@bille172]

Hey, so mine is running into the issue where the right side piston, not sticky piston, is getting pushed into the stone generation area and then getting shoved up by the sticky piston. any ideas?

[@onedozenbugs]

you need to replace the white concrete with deepslate diamond ore like doc so it works better 🙄🙄 /j

[@pog_champ]

it adds 400 horse power and uses less mspt

[@Akhimed]

Actually depending on what monitor you have, using deepslate diamond may be better since it has darker colours than the white concrete hence might be rendered easier

[@Akhimed]

But then that’d be client side efficiency rather than something that would actually affect the farm lol

[@QuasarEE]

@@Akhimed I don't know about the rendering effort being different, but at least the dark colors use less energy being displayed by your monitor :P

[@loleq2137]

@@QuasarEE That's only if you have an OLED screen, too 😆 this isn't how things work, bubs @Brasev

[@Mrkats69]

WARNING! never leave this farm on in an unloaded chunk, it'll shit itself. same with closing the world with it on. to start the farm put a stack of bonemeal in each hopper that feeds the dropper that feeds the moss (only the 2 on the water line) besides that i just used the schematic and it worked perfectly.

[@Sebedo]

with a chunkloader the machine works if i am far away?

[@Mrkats69]

@@Sebedo i don't know about that

[@saamanda]

@@Sebedo should work with a chunkloader. just remember sometimes chunkloaders work a bit unexpectedly (especially on servers) where it (the chunkloader) might break.

[@lima7132]

I just finished building a rewired version of yours on my HC world, but this is awesome! The underside moss system is a great find, and the compactness of everything is just amazing! Clean design, great video as always :]

[@mrmaxmondays]

I use an insane amount of bone blocks on my builds, clean fast farms are always appreciated:D

[@masteroogway2725]

Where that verified check at :p

[@DeanJayJackmanJr]

These crossover episodes are exceptional. I do so enjoy.

[@arandomdiamond2]

Who needs super-friends teamups when we have illmango and doc!

[@cajup]

I've been using this farm for a while, it's fantastic. I love how compact it is. RIP enormous watermelon patches for bonemeal.

[@AUSClary]

Built the 5 module one off this as off 10/23/24 Paper server 1.21 no issues with it works perfectly drops my client FPS but doesn't affect server TPS built an auto crafter system turning it into bone blocks and then feeding them into a shulker box loader just a tip the occasional moss item flows through my water stream so an auto sorter would be wise i didn't consider this when i built the auto craft and dont want to redo it a few blocks down so instead i put a hopper before the autocrafters hhoppers and put one of each item i dont want into it and will just manually remove them from that hopper another thing i did was put a comparator at the last chest on my shulker box chest so when its empty it send a signal to the bonemeal machine to turn it off i also built at build limit (not sure if it would make any difference building it that high) Thanks ilmango

[@JavierSalcedoC]

It's so cool to watch Doc build yours and others designs on hermitcraft. Can't wait to see what are the plans for the perimeter

[@Jeppelelle]

5:50 Is it really though? If one disconnect the trapdoor redstone line one should only need to place stone up until below the trapdoors, then it will push the stones towards the signs, and then you reconnect the redstone line again?

[@ilmango]

true. that's a way to work around the issue

[@xb70valkyriech]

I think you could just fill it with cheap dirt too lol

[@fontajo]

Not sure if anyone else has had this problem, but when I built it, all of the moss bonemealing modules were working except for one. It was built just the same as others, but I was getting no moss on that stone area. You can fix it just by placing a downwards piston below the target block.

[@GoldenHawkMC]

mega thank you for this comment!

[@kaji]

Perfect! Thanks for the solution!!

[@iamcal]

Thank you!!

[@YoungMan7282]

Hey I say you built this, how did you do it, is there a litmatica thing for it or a block by block Tutorial

[@GoldenHawkMC]

@@YoungMan7282 I created a schematic from the world download that ilmago provided :)

[@YounesLayachi]

ilmango been cranking out videos like crazy recently :o Good one and I hope you're having fun

[@yurpland6622]

Whenever I run the farm, its ok (sometimes pieces of cobble and stone go up the lava area) but when I stop it, it just deletes all lava with stone, how do I fix this?

[@Starhunter1975]

I like how clean it is and how you can see all the wiring. Going to have a go at building this. I am not a redstone and just like programming I fine it very confusing however I can see things visually in my head so we will see how I go.

[@Mertly]

I know it's for big bone meal production, but it looks like it could be scaled down pretty easy as well for a single player world. It's very modular

[@GaingsterKid]

Why scale down when you can scale up ? My goal in my single player world is to play creative mode in a surbival world. Basically, I want unlimited access to all blocks and items all while playing in survival. Even if you don't want to play like that, building mega farms is always better. By the time you are done building the farm you have more mats than you will ever need. That way you will reduce your afk time in your world.

[@mattlau04]

This has to be one of the most satisfying farms to watch

[@redthunder6183]

I love these quicker videos about improving older farms with new tech

[@DerKlemm-Crafter]

I built it with 2 segments in 1.20.1 and damn, this thing is a beast! An absolute must-have. But one hopper is not fast enough to collect and send all the items, so I needed to build 2 shulker loaders.

[@durnominator]

I have some thoughts that might be helpful in improving the farm. I would love to hear what you think about them. -Moss generation target block selection seems to works like this: The game checks for air blocks at Y levels above the moss block's Y coordinate. Once an air block is found, the first non-air block below the air block is selected for moss generation. Blocks at Y-levels up to 5 blocks above the bonemealed moss block can be targeted for moss generation. This means that you can make a second stone floor, 2-3 blocks above the first one, that gets converted to moss by the same dispenser. If the dispenser bonemeals when the first floor is covered with water, the blocks from the second floor are selected for the moss conversion instead, since there are no air blocks between them. -It is possible to have stone three generators push into one row of blocks if you sync them to push blocks every 10 game ticks. I did manage to make such one-wide tileable setup, but it was very bulky compared to what you have here. -It's possible to collect the blocks using quasiconnectively powered sticky pistons that push down blocks and pull the items up into a static waterflow on top of the pistons. How would this compare to the water flushing used in this farm in terms of lag?

[@prestonblack564]

Thank you so much for making this because I’ve seen this on yours and Doc‘s KZbin channel and I’ve really been wondering how to make it on my survival world

[@frotts8937]

across from piston that clears bonemeal moss placed mud with hopper below. it catches the items so they dont just hang out until despawn

[@NoteArcade]

This farm still working. If you have trouble with pistol push stone into lava, you can try increase delay to repeater

[@skyrimplayer6423]

@ilmango I built this and everything works, but the amount of moss that is generated is about 6 blocks per bonemeal, but I tested your farm in the downloaded world and the moss covers most of the stone with each bonemeal.

[@skyrimplayer6423]

I made it underground but I removed all the stone around it by 7 blocks and I made the area around the moss light level 15

[@bmanpura]

Check the chunk border and directions. The new update seems to introduce some directionality (see Mumbo's video, around July Aug 2024)

[@vcoade]

hi guys, i dont know if ilmango says this but u need to put one bone meal into the hopper next to the lever (at the right) so it has 1 level of electricity xD and it works otherwise it wont. sry if ilmango clarifies this and im just being dumb

[@DVR_Gaming007]

It can be any item

[@norbucso]

I tell you it's faster than the previous one. I love the design. And bit less laggy. I'm more hyped for this the 1.19 😂😂

[@AndreasGjul]

Still works in 1.21! just turn it off before unloading the chunks

[@HoneyBeeEnjoyerYT]

Thx

[@treyn]

My farm isn’t making enough bonemeal to supply the last 2 dispensers, do Yk why?

[@zBenni]

if my farm is like 10 blocks away from world spawn point, shouldnt it always be loaded?

[@AndreasGjul]

@@zBenni as long as it's in the 3x3(after 1.20.5) spawn chunks. You'll know if it got unloaded because the pistons will push stone to where the lava should be.

[@zBenni]

@@AndreasGjul its literally in the world spawn chunk but it didnt work yesterday

[@mjswoo]

the old bone meal farm doesnt really work in my multiplayer server due to lags messing the stone generator and making cobble instead, where moss is impossible to grow on cobble and thus breaking the farm.

[@mikesebber6751]

did you find a soloution????

[@mjswoo]

@@mikesebber6751 wither skeleton farm for unlimited bone and bone meal

[@hakanlatifoglu5209]

5:46 powering all trapdoors is so much easier than placing all the stone

[@umbraoverseer7272]

Is anyone else having problems with the lava sometimes being replaced by stone? The generated stone seems to be getting pushed up into the lava

[@codyc5423]

that happened to me when i logged off without shutting it off

[@kelathos]

I faced a widespread stone issue today, after successfully running the farm AFK for several hours. It appears that new stone is generated and the pistons push the old stone back up - hitting the lava. Having just discovered this issue, I have only begun to look into a way to prevent it.

[@umbraoverseer7272]

@@kelathos it only happens when the server lags or you unload the chunks but its realy annoying that it happens so often

[@optic5453]

@@kelathos have u found a way? This is annoying

[@Parth-pe5mu]

@@umbraoverseer7272 i believe it also happens on higher than default tick speeds . I had set my tick speed to 12 (default is 3) since im a student a waiting for crops to grow just isn't optimal . My wood farm blew itself up and my sugarcane farm would break along with this issue of lava turning into stone , the problem got fixed when i defaulted my tick speed .

[@tomjames6907]

had this built for a bit now for moss blocks rather than bone meal and it's so strong the hoppers can't seem to keep up with the items coming in.. even managed to put 10 item droppers on it to try speed things up getting through hoppers but just still keeps blocked a little

[@floppypancake22]

I spend all day today getting the honey blocks for the old moss bone meal farm and then you release this😂

[@wheelsonwind]

I was having a left/right issue when I built the farm. I was able to fix it by making sure that the 3 count observer counter above the activator rails are both in sync. If they're on different stages they wont work.

[@Hyp3notics]

Had exactly the same problem and exactly the same solution worked for me! :)

[@bazkin2883]

THANK YOU SO MUCH THAT WAS THE PERFECT ANSWER

[@orangenal]

I did some testing and it produces 15k/hr with 3 modules when the old design produces 18k/hr with 3 modules.

[@JohnDoe-im6lg]

I built his old moss bonemeal farm yesterday…

[@the_dfh]

now you get the joy of building something new xP

[@buddyarchivos7338]

lmao take it easy champ

[@47GC]

Really compact design! Big thanks

[@xenozeno3929]

This is the mumbo jumbo of farming. Correct me if I am wrong.

[@ThisKittyPlays]

This looks really good, nice compaction, Illmango, I'll make it this week :D Thanks!

[@spartajr5608]

Well this bonemeal farm kept making cobblestone, block the lava on top, and block the stone generator. Always like this when im afking on my tree farm Can you guys explain to me why this happen? I have a lot of automatic farm turned on when afking making the world lagging, is it because of the lag?

[@justluke0001]

compactness is always appreciated

[@nessunonessun1]

Top moss bonemal farm on KZbin 👍 The second farm of il mango I built in my single player world after hos cobblestone darm🎉

[@nessunonessun1]

Just doubled it👍

[@lasseortmann7927]

Hey i Build the Farm on my Friends Server But the Lava Keeps getting turnend Into Stone,and the Farm breaks. Is ist because of lag or did i do somethimg wrong?

[@siggeberglin7592]

Used this farm for 15 hours, no errors. But when it comes to turning it off, the lava 50% of times touch the water to gets removed, any fix?

[@quintencabo]

You are really just cranking out amazing content lately! I love it.

[@gregorygrammery1594]

I have a problem which I was wondering if anyone else had- I've been noticing that occasionally I will have a situation where the lava spreads before the water, and causes a cobblestone to form , and eventually clog up the machine since it can't be gotten rid of. I was wondering if anyone else had this issue, and if so how theyd eal with it.

[@DVR_Gaming007]

It's probably lag, if you are playing on a singleplayer and your fps drops.

[@derekschreiber4844]

I had the exact same problem. In my case, I had to change the monostable circuit that controls the double piston extenders. For me, I had a two tick repeater by itself, and a three tick repeater followed by a one tick repeater. Instead it needs to be a three tick repeater followed by a two tick repeater.

[@vhs0326]

@@derekschreiber4844 auf welcher seite links oder recht oder beide ?

[@IanGrams]

Hah, I was literally just planning to build a moss bonemeal farm to feed my tree farm that you designed. Perfect timing!

[@kapupa8131]

Good work with improving old design!!

[@frolsty365]

Hey ilmango i have used litematica to copy this exact build but when i turn it on it works for like 20 minutes or less and then some how pushes stone blocks up in the lava therefor removing the lava. can you help?

[@anton_r]

Same Problem here. Update would be appreciated.

[@frolsty365]

@@anton_r hey anton i dont know what i did but i just tried removing the lava and place the lava back again and it seems to work propely

[@ilmango]

Hard to tell. I have been running this farm in multiple creative and survival worlds for days. Never failed. Definitely works when built and operated correctly

[@anton_r]

@ilmango Built with Litematica from your WDL, so should be fine. Got it hooked up to a pressure plate, so shouldn't have any issues with unloading either. When the farm is running (one module) my FPS drops from 60 to 30. Also, one half is not rendering properly (flowing water animation), but the moss is still generated and destroyed, so I think this is just visual clientside? Could it be the spigot server?

[@summersuetholz7884]

@@ilmango I've just been testing out the builds you built on the world download, without touching them, and the only one that doesn't break is the biggest farm for some reason.

[@TheNicksco]

Help: The cleanstone generators occasionally push the cleanstone up, destroying the lava sources. Also sometimes cobblestone forms instead of cleanstone. I built the farm on a private vanilla server. Works fine in singleplayer. Any ideas why that happens and how to fix it? Would be greatful for insights.

[@vogelsprrr4086]

You cant unload the chuncks where it is built in if the farm is running, it will break

[@tenoxOG]

Same issue

[@Nanashi_Arai]

Same issue here, I have no idea how to fix that. Would a chunk loader help in any way ? I'm using this farm in a server and sometimes it just breaks this way on it's own, even without unloading the chunks.

[@martin.stromberg]

I've run into an issue after building it in my survival world where one dispenser will get stuck in "Triggered"-state after the first activation. The other 7 dispensers work perfectly fine and I can't seem to figure out why one of the dispensers gets locked. Any insight on how I can address this issue? Cheers Update: Just checked the world download and get the same problem in the 5 module version on the farm. If I'm the only one with this issue, it's probably an issue with some mod I have active. I'm running fabric with fabric-carpet and the carpet extra features.

[@vinhtran84]

I’m having the same issue - trying to troubleshoot but with no luck so far.

[@martin.stromberg]

@@vinhtran84 The only thing I could think of is that the 1 dispenser that doesn't work for me (3rd one on the left if stood facing the lever side of the contraption) has the dispenser in a different chunk than the target block. Though the same is true for the 3rd on the right and it works without any issues.

[@summersuetholz7884]

I'm having this issue too. I would really love to build it in survival, but I can't do that until I can get it to consistently work in creative ;-;

[@ariestob9670]

the issue is caused by the quasi connectivity between the target block and the dispenser. to solve this issue, find a way to power the piston without powering the dispenser through quasi connectivity

[@vinhtran84]

@@martin.stromberg I checked if it was a chunk border issue, but it wasn't in my world. If it's a quasi connectivity issue like Arie Stob stated, don't know why it would only be for select dispensers and not others. I simply ran a redstone line to power the dispenser from the bottom to fix the issue. Not pretty as Il Mango's build but it does the trick.

[@tetsujin_144]

How does the stone generator avoid snuffing out the lava when the double piston extender can't push the stone out of the way? Is is because the bottom pistons push up frequently enough to disrupt stone generation if there's still a stone block above the piston?

[@hjool482]

I have been having the same problem, have you figured it out?

[@tetsujin_144]

@@hjool482 I play on Bedrock so can't really reproduce what I see here. But I think I had the right idea - it takes a certain amount of time after you pull stone away for the stone generator to make another piece of stone. If you push a block back up into that space before new stone forms, then there's no potential for new stone to get formed and pushed up into the lava source. When I experiment with a design like this on Bedrock and it starts extinguishing the lava, it seems to mean the machine is taking too long to re-extend those bottom pistons. (I've been trying to reproduce the double stone generator from this video in Bedrock, unfortunately without quasi-connectivity I can't get a double piston extender to work unless I get a bit more creative... Best I've managed is a double piston extender with an extra block on it, but this makes it too slow because it has to retract that block. Probably I need to do something like his 1.17 bone meal farm, where there are two single stone generators on top of each other rather than one double stone generator...)

[@DJstrax]

for those wondering, its still working in 1.18.x to 1.21

[@NAThroat]

thanks DJStrax

[@harunoderso]

what about 1.21?

[@DJstrax]

@@harunoderso yep, works there too

[@tiranicusw1433]

@@harunoderso Working on a server 1.21.1

[@bazkin2883]

I tried rebuilding this myself, copying the build in the world download, but the right side of the farm won't turn the stone to moss more that once before it stops working. The farm keeps going, and the dispenser still bonemeals the moss block, but the stone blocks above it don't turn to moss

[@ivanovov.7062]

I found the fix - stop the farm and make sure the observer being alternated between the pistons on the right side is in the same position as the alternating observer on the left side. Should work after that

[@The.DocToR0000]

@@ivanovov.7062 You are an absolute life savior. I was about to destroy the whole farm and build it again, after wasting more than 2 hours trying to think of what is going wrong !!

[@austin99299]

@ilmango Running into issues: the farm regularly breaks when the lava (only sometimes) creates cobblestone, and then stone/cobblestone gets pushed into the lava. Once this happens to a cell, it is ruined until I replace all the lava and clear the cobblestone. Any suggestions?

[@snorresrstrnen9391]

Having the same issue! Did you find any fix?

[@austinleedavis]

@@snorresrstrnen9391 negative. Still breaks

[@DVR_Gaming007]

If you are playing in singleplayer and your pc lags, or you unload the chunks of the machine, it breaks@@snorresrstrnen9391

[@DVR_Gaming007]

If you are playing in singleplayer and your pc lags, or you unload the chunks of the machine, it breaks@@austinleedavis

[@DVR_Gaming007]

If you are playing in singleplayer and your pc lags, or you unload the chunks of the machine, it breaks

[@Kyle-nd4gz]

@ilmango Any idea how to increase the length of the pulse sent to the sticky pistons that control moving the stone that collapses the moss? The server I'm playing on, they only get a 1 tick hit, so they don't retract the block. Thoughts?

[@jumboshirmp]

When I rotate the farm with World Edit one side of the farm stops converting the stone to moss. Any suggestions??

[@fontajo]

try putting a downwards piston underneath the target blocks for each module that doesn’t work. It seems that sometimes it just needs updating.

[@ilovecokezeroandmorbius]

@@fontajo this helped! thank you

[@Secretlycat31]

Will you make a tutorial on how to make this farm? As I don't understand Redstone very well so can't remake it from the world download, (which for some reason isn't working for me not sure why)

[@Secretlycat31]

I figured it out and made a guide just figuring out how to share the world download safely.

[@Rooftopaccessorizer]

i managed to build half of this into the floor of my storage room and it looks so cool but its so overpowered that ive only turned it on three times

[@0bamo0]

for some reaspn , when i use a nether portal and the farm get unloaded , when i come back the lava just get transfrmed into stone xD i have no idea what's going on

[@boxlid214]

You need to turn off the machine before leaving and causing the chunks to unload

[@0bamo0]

@@boxlid214 thanks for the help , I found a better solution, u should try to build the machine in the same chunk so it get loaded completely at the same time , it solved the problem

[@MTBiSLiVE]

Anyone else having problems with the farm occasionally generating cobble, both on the lava layer and on the stone/moss layer?

[@zacherybutter7349]

That happens when you aren’t in spawn chunks and unload the chunks the moss farm is built in. You need an on/off switch for when you leave the chunks.

[@MTBiSLiVE]

@@zacherybutter7349 I have that, but I'm chunkloading it, but I guess I should probably check the chunkloader, maybe a filthy zombie pigman has picked up the item again

[@zacherybutter7349]

@@MTBiSLiVE pretty sure you need an actual player there. something in the game code, i can't quote it directly.

[@alexgrissom3513]

@@zacherybutter7349 I’m watching the game create cobble as it goes, but only in a certain part of it. Any advice?

[@zacherybutter7349]

@@alexgrissom3513 Hmm, I’ve encountered this issue before and if none of my other fixes worked for you, then I need to know a little more info. Did you build the machine inside as single chunk (as much as you can fit in one chunk)? Are you on a server? And are you sure your timings are correct? Make sure to experiment with repeater timings, especially if you’re on a [public] server because they often have some lag that requires a slightly slower machine. (I’ll be free next two days, so I’ll check up on this comment thread often as I can).

[@masterbuilderlb2944]

When i activate the farm the moss blocks are not dropping and sometimes cobblestone is generated

[@legoyoda8431]

Can you rig this to just be a moss + other blocks farm? I'm not the best at Redstone so I would appreciate a version of this that's just for the moss blocks.

[@gustave3103]

just don't have the hoppers go into composters.

[@SlothyHD]

@ilmango Is it just for me, or does in 1.19.2 randomly on of the dispenser lock into its state and wont work anymore? in my survival world i build 1 slice at first and then expandet to 2 slices. then i saw that 1 of them stoped working, i tried torbleshooting and saw, that in litematica the dispencer was highlighted as wrong state and always on. after blockupdating it, it worked for 1 pulse, but then was locked again. i then loaded your world i downloaded and it worked fine on the 2 slice segment, but not on the 5 slice one. and it was a compleatly other dispenser that stoped working....

[@mrtoasty3698]

same thing happened to me only one dispenser keeps on getting locked on its state and wont work until updated. dont understand why though

[@kifo470]

Had the same issue, I put a note block under the target block right by the dispenser that was locked in its state and it worked perfectly. Not sure if this will work for you but its worth a try

[@koalarobert974]

We need a tutorial for this farm!!

[@acoderplays5606]

Ilmango, still the best redstoner around, always enjoy his vids. However this is just too much lol. I went with something way less overkill and a lot prettier: 'space monkey bone meal farm'

[@mistalt7782]

Get to know litematica ;) it'll change your life :¶

[@GabrielDonhauser]

u need litematica, copy the farm and paste on ur world, u can build it layer by layer

[@larsmeeldijk5481]

@@GabrielDonhauser where is the litematica download then?

[@silverclik]

@@larsmeeldijk5481 litematica is a mod that you can download from curseforge This mod always you to copy a building from a world and place a blueprint of it in another, and you can build it layer by layer which just make life easier.

[@brian3364]

cant figure out why only the left side keeps breaking, takes a few minutes but eventually is all cobblestone. probably some kind of delay that keeps breaking it but I followed the schematic to a T. R.I.p. my life

[@googldotcom2753]

same. did you build it on a server?

[@brian3364]

@@googldotcom2753 I did yeah 😭

[@alexgrissom3513]

Same here: only the left side, built on a server. Frustrating

[@EndlessVacuum]

i like how all the glass and concrete is dyed white. must have taken a lot of lily of the valley.

[@renskloosterman4045]

You can make white dye with bonemeal as well

[@snmfsquirrel87]

Another ilmango farm!

[@LunizIsGlacey]

I had modified your older version to be more compact and cheap, guess I'll have to do the same with this one too now! haha

[@davemoosehead]

Farm breaks for me every time I leave the area. It does not appear to be chunk unload proof. I'm playing on Paper/Purpur. Doesn't seem to break on single player.

[@The3gg]

Redstone and chunk loading works differently on Paper/spigot servers and Redstone contraptions in general are rarely unload-proof while they're running. Fabric or vanilla servers should be fine but still chunk loaders are a must if you're not keeping the chunks loaded yourself

[@uxiii9537]

@@The3gg same on vanilla 1.21

[@kurtmann7595]

this farm has a large flaw on servers where it creates cobblestone randomly instead of stone which in turn breaks the farm

[@kurtmann7595]

@@XxDakoXx20 no, i pasted the schematic directly into my world to test.

[@kurtmann7595]

@@XxDakoXx20 i've tested it multiple times on multiple different 1.19 servers. it does the same thing.

[@d3lm119]

@@XxDakoXx20 so that mean YOU are wrong

[@goodvibes4891]

its not a flaw, no is it an issue with servers in general. This happens because of servers not having enough resources to maintain proper tickrate. If you have any dips in tickrate it will cause hyper efficient farms such as this one to lose their timing by a tick here or there, which will then cause catastrophic failure. There are steps you can take to reduce the odds of tickrates dropping on servers, but generally the proper solution is to simply host them with better resources.

[@cdemr]

You saw the last video of Docm77 and thought about a few things you could improve on your own design don't you? Don't lie, we all know what you're up to :p

[@Decommissioned]

Thank you ilmango, works well. Something you forgot to mention is that you need to fill the dispensers with bone meal first. What I did was filled just one with bone meal, then afked for about half an hour and then it was running at full speed.

[@scarfbandit177]

When I tried making this farm I kept running into an issue where the lava would get blocks of cobblestone/stone pushed up into it, removing them. I'm sure this is a timing issue, but from what I could tell my layout matched that of your download. Any ideas on what the source of this problem might be?

[@tom23PBI]

Check repeaters tick delays one by one. There are some repeaters in the front end with delays.

[@scarfbandit177]

@@tom23PBI to my eye they are all correct, but thanks :)

[@scarfbandit177]

I figured it out- the 3 state observer clocks were unsynchronized & I had some solid blocks where glass was needed and vice versa

[@murph3292]

do you happen to know exactly where the issue is, in having the same issue

[@scarfbandit177]

@@murph3292 I gave up

[@xdmcnugget5411]

I built this farm in 1.19.2 but whenever I unload the chunks the stone generators generate cobble stone and sometimes move up into the lava. Is there a fix for this or do I just not unload the chunks when running it?

[@pske8507]

I have the same issue, not sure how to fix it, belive the farm is running too fast for the server to keep up idk

[@amber_amber62]

You need to turn off the machine before you unload the chunk. Unloading the chunk while the machine is running will break it.

[@Sam-zd1qx]

For any who's having trouble with moss growing too late and flusher too quick I simply found if I broke and replaced the 4 repeaters that are in a row fixed the timing

[@screech912]

This comment saved me from rage quitting- i love your face

[@FancyFreestyler]

I think you forgot your diamond ore blocks ;)

[@ashtwenty12]

Everyone watch docM77 thinking, huh, docs design looks very familiar to ilmango's.

[@k-kun39]

i dont know why sometimes the lava + water became cobblestone and ruin the farm

[@quentinnalherbe7232]

I have the same probleme and I don t know how to fix it

[@k-kun39]

@@quentinnalherbe7232 i cant find the solution so i just go and make a melon bone meal farm

[@quentinnalherbe7232]

@@k-kun39 A guys said he has the same probleme so he use the old version

[@k-kun39]

@@quentinnalherbe7232 actually i found the cause is because when a lava flows in to water (not source block) it will make stone and opposite it will make cobblestone. So if the side line is created first then it blocks water, the lava will flow in the middle before the water and that make cobblestone. The solution might be using redstone to delay or something like that. Im not really good at redstone but if u want u can have a try

[@quentinnalherbe7232]

@@k-kun39 I think I had make a solution for the probleme but I cant test it on a serv

[@tommydiy6531]

this farm worked perfecly in my survival world, no problem 100% recomend. way simpler than the theysix design

[@BrownR87]

Hey ilmango, I found one of the weird cases where the farm breaks on unload while running and one side of the farm stops making moss. The solution was to break and replace the observer that is being pushed back and forth to trigger the bonemeal on that side, but I don't know why that fixes it. Do you know from a technical perspective what happens with that observer that it doesn't give proper timings anymore?

[@nessunonessun1]

It is a clock, it happened to me to, you have to stop the farm before log out.... I think it is a sistem people use from long time to count up to 3...