In conversation: George R.R. Martin with Dan Jones FULL EVENT

[@Reldas]

Great interview Dan. Thanks for not focusing solely on the GoT show, and more importantly, not interrupting him.

[@eugeneburns2880]

Well said, good interviewer

[@shozanhanma2709]

Exactly!

[@aesir1ases64]

And good historian!

[@matrixxletsplaysirhenrythe8823]

Thats true

[@joefriedman9843]

By far the best GRRM interview I've seen. Excellent job.

[@rymdalkis]

Dan Jones: "Well George, fittingly we're running late" Everyone: "Laugh their asses off" George: "Why you gotta hurt me like this?"

[@tommie7996]

His silence said everything. If he would just say he can’t figure out the ending it wouldn’t hurt my feelings at all

[@abonfireofmasks7702]

Yes, the interviewer had a certain snarkiness about him, with his "fittingly..." & "I think you have a bit of a fallen star in you [George.]" Like a double-edged sword, lifting his guest up & then dropping him down: a certain condescending hubris that must emanate from his own accomplishments as a celebrity historian.

[@corneliusquincydavenportic1913]

Well, it's not exactly undeserved

[@perspectiVe-]

@@abonfireofmasks7702 its just a joke lighten up

[@internetenjoyer1044]

What a great interview. Dan Jones is a biggish name himself, and yet he totally dedicates himself to the role of interviewer with all his heart and does a brilliant job. That shows good character. In his position, I think I'd fall prey to my ego and bring myself into the discussion, but he resists the urge.

[@doxasophosmoros]

He is an overrated writer. And this interviewer wasn't allowed to interrupt nor ask ask questions about asoiaf... it's called power... Grrm has it and he will never finsh.this interview was all rehearsed,with a drama student. Hello? God people are stupid ...

[@doxasophosmoros]

That's cause he's a profession! He's not a moron like you, it's his job! He won't het fired for that shit but he is Narcissistic in his life. And anyone wouldn't have the job if they acted like you,moron!

[@internetenjoyer1044]

@@doxasophosmoros Dan jones wouldn't get fired for an interview he brought himself into when he's not an interviewer, he's a writer

[@cameront6109]

kaboom you are a narcissist and are completely blinded by your arrogance and it’s obvious. Ironically, you have an opinion that you have convinced yourself is superior to someone else’s and would go to such lengths to be insulting but it’s apparent that your attitude comes from an unaddressed feeling of insecurity.

[@turtleanton6539]

Who is he? Does he write books to what genre are they good

[@theM4R4T]

Love listening to George even though he said most of this before.

[@shannond7437]

Marat Agreed, I could listen to him every time. It is expected questions being the publisher managing the event, but I could answer most of these inquiries having heard before!

[@8mmkyle865]

@Adam Campbell Agreed but I'm always enthralled when I hear his stories, even when I know the ending

[@MrOelias]

I can listen to him talk all day. I find him to be very calming

[@suba7320]

I swear every Interview is 90% identical to all the other ones. Even listening to the podcasts he did in the mid 2000s it's all the same points.

[@MrEvers]

George is a great story teller. He never just answers 'yes' or 'no', he takes you on a journey, and tells it in an interesting way. A good story hass it value even when repeated.

[@claws811]

I love listening to this man speak. Truly one of the greatest authors of our time, and one of the greatest fantasy’s writers ever. Legend.

[@Mornin.Coffee]

Yea , Dan is great

[@Airdathegamer]

This guy has to be the most normal person to have interviewed him at this point. The other ones were really creepy. There was this one lady who acted like she was going to murder him and make love to his corpse.

[@mrvulture8981]

And fake laugh robot

[@edalkarvel5865]

Yes I remember hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@cou1202]

I could be wrong, but I think it's an age thing _ this interviewer being younger than GRRM, and a 100% fan. In all the other interviews I've seen, the interviewers were nearer GRRM's age. I know that *shouldn't* mean anything, but I think (some) people who are the same age-group as a big star, like people from the same town, have a hard time not trying to prove themselves in relation to him, perhaps unconsciously. Inferiority complex, basically.

[@doxasophosmoros]

He is an overrated writer. And this interviewer wasn't allowed to interrupt nor ask ask questions about asoiaf... it's called power... Grrm has it and he will never finsh.this interview was all rehearsed,with a drama student. Hello? God people are stupid ...

[@doxasophosmoros]

It's called A contract and being professional! Duh... Moron

[@Bluecrew27]

Love reading Dan Jones books on medieval history, his writings bring the history alive, you can tell he's a fan of the way George writes and describes a setting! Great interview!

[@peterjoyfilms]

Finally a good interviewer

[@NYCfrankie]

Let's hope George lives a long life and keeps his mental health he has a lot if writing left to do still has Winds of Winter to finish and a Dream of Spring plus 5-7 dunk and egg stories and fire and blood part 2, I think George knows he has to finish asoiaf series now after what happened with GOT seasons 7-8 specifically there's no way he wants his masterpiece to end that way

[@LuzMaria95]

YESSSS 🙏🏽

[@WA-ek9mu]

True. pray for Mr. Martin's good health

[@alexmarkadonis7179]

Maybe Dan and Dave did that to inject George with wildfire, so he'd wake his dragon and get to work again.

[@Garl_Vinland]

After Miura died of a heart attack before being able to finish his Berserk series, I really don’t want to stress out George RR Martin. Tolkien died before his time too. Martin should live a stress free life, if atleast so that he can continue talking about the works we love.

[@mattmacaulay2900]

The legend himself: DAN JONES

[@shdhfbf412]

I like that Dan was ready to ignore the elephant in the room i.e. Winds of Winter unlike most people who milk it for attention from fans.

[@Ash-cb2li]

Hardy Draur how is that a good thing? We want to hear about any progress on it

[@JL-yq9xn]

Hardy Draur that defeats the purpose of an elephant in the room

If Cersei couldn't have her Elephants, no-one else will.

[@doxasophosmoros]

That would have been part of the contract to be allowed to interview him, you knob head.. damn you die hard niave Grrm fans are stupid

[@doxasophosmoros]

That would have been part of the contract of even being allowed to interview him.. all questions are asked and rehearsed ahead of time.

[@spencercrylax6771]

This is one of the very best interviews with Martin that Ive seen. Dan Jones clearly loves the books and is very knowledgeable about the lore of them , but gives George great questions and plenty of time to answer concisely.

[@onetwothreefourfive12345]

This was a very good interview. Sensible questions and no interrupting or being obnoxious. Good stuff.

[@mkphasard3026]

I want one time...just one time when someone says "No need for an introduction" they actually do absolutely no introduction

[@harshodedra3617]

I was there for this, it was amazing. Thank you for coming to London, George. And thank you Dan, for complementing him perfectly.

[@Levacque]

21:13 hey George, I notice these descriptions. I specifically told my friend who was reading AGoT how much I love the descriptions in Catelyn's arrival to the Vale, how that chapter almost makes me cry. I notice, I appreciate.

[@Paeoniarosa]

Good questions and thank you for not interrupting GRRM. When interviewers interrupt an interesting interviewee, it's like nails on a chalkboard. Great pairing of professional historian and awesome author.

[@c.andresrestrepo1952]

I just the fact that a writer can always go back to his childhood to tell how it all started, to then realize that he’ s never grown up from his childhood fantasies. Lovely.👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@dominicwyartt3598]

Just wish fans would stop hounding him for winds of winter. As a fellow writer at the start of my journey I look at the complexity of ASOIF I’m not surprised it has taken so long. His writing is so descriptive his characters are deeply developed and he has multiple view points. He and Stephen king are two of my favourite authors but they are so differently in their styles. Keep up the good work Mr Martin

[@thewallcometh1444]

Hounding him? That greedy asshole hasn't written in 5 years. His fans made him a rich man, so you'd think he'd write a chapter or two? But no, he hasn't and likely won't.

[@theM4R4T]

George when asked about sharing his world with tv was like "How do I answer this question without trashing D&D."

[@jakeb3157]

@Mark Kruda To be fair to D&D the studio is probably more to blame for the change in style in the later seasons, (that and they ran out of source material). Especially in season 8 that was pretty much the Marvel movir version of GOT.

[@zwbruno90]

He already threw shade and I’m 9 minutes, he’s talking about the architect vs the gardener. He’s a gardener, D&D are architects

[@theM4R4T]

@@zwbruno90 D&D lack the foresight to be architects. They can't even remember what they wrote a couple episodes ago and don't plan whatsoever which result in countless plotholes and retcons.

[@Hala10-7]

@@zwbruno90 D&D are hacks pretending to be writers

[@zwbruno90]

@@Hala10-7 this is ignoring the episodes the wrote that drew from the source material, that were good. The issue is they are "architects" who took over a "garden" more than half way through. The change was evident, and is what caused the majority of the problems, imo. I hate them as much as anyone, I'm a professional wrestler whos entire persona is based on GoT... I'm a superfan, but they ruined the ending because they wrote for the plot and used the characters as pieces, not writing for the characters and allowing the plot to unfold naturally; which was compunded expontentially by having most of the story written gardener style

[@rtwilson145]

I came to this interview while reading Fire and Blood. While at first disappointed by the fact that it wasn't really a "character based" book, I eventually came to really love it. It's more exciting at times, and slower and a bit boring at others. But once I got to the end, I couldn't help but wanting more. If anyone is a GoT fan, I'd really recommend giving this a go and power through it, it's well worth it.

[@lisamalsawmkimizadeng9630]

just finished it some moments ago. Fantastic!

[@emintey]

"Why am I talking to you here? I should be home writing." Amen!

[@Jacob-jz5gr]

Lol!!

[@ClaireYunFarronXIII]

Very interesting interview. George R. R. Martin is a huge inspiration to me, and I love hearing him talk in every interview. I have read almost all the books he has written. Fantastic.

[@Dukethenuke91]

This is amazing, Dan Jones is awesome, like the stuff he does. And then interviewing George.. today is a good day.

[@jon-umber]

Dan Jones is the man, hope he keeps doing stuff of this nature. And of course, George.

[@jonbour7739]

38:52 "Let's move FROM the ridiculous TO the sublime" Damn, Dan, sheath your steel mate :)

[@jonbour7739]

@Adaneth Oops! Thank you very much, I didn't notice that :)

[@SlytigerSurvival]

I remember when his first book came out. I heard there weren’t any monsters so I didn’t understand why they were in the fantasy section. After all the hype with the show I blasted through them this year. They were incredible.

[@leonlawson2196]

Strange considering white walkers are literally in the prologue.

[@turtleanton6539]

WTF!!!! Whitewalkers is the first thing you see.

[@ridiculousedtollett6120]

"And who knows what magical properties fallen stars bring to earth." Well that sounded.....ominous.

[@jarrod5855]

Sounds like a potential end to the coming long night to me. George did say that the ending will be bitter sweet. I believe it could have something to do with house Dayne. We don't know their words yet and George has said that it is because it would spoil the ending. I'm thinking their words are something along the lines of "We Bring the Dawn."

[@ridiculousedtollett6120]

To me it sounds like a previous fallen star, or maybe a few, is what caused the last Long Night and is still messing with the current magics.

[@jarrod5855]

@@ridiculousedtollett6120 I've never heard of a fallen star bringing "Ice" with it, which is the theme of the long night. Fallen stars bring fire and light. Also, we know that the long night didn't come from a fallen star as George has said it came from the land of always winter. I believe he was saying that a fallen star will end the long night and bring back the dawn. Also, we know that the ancestral sword of house Dayne, Dawn, was created from the rock of a fallen star.

[@jarrod5855]

@BONESAW IS READY The legend states that the long night was ushered in once the Bloodstone Emperor killed his sister the Amethyst Empress. He didn't turn his back on the gods of Yi Ti and begin worshiping the blood stone until after he killed her and took her place.

[@GullibleTarget]

@@ridiculousedtollett6120 there were once two moons. One crashed into the other.

[@chellybub]

Omg I loooove Dan Jones, he had that awesome series on the war of the roses. This was fantastic, I needed this. Thanks for the upload

[@cdr861532]

I stumbled onto Jones from that Netflix series about Britain's Castles and I thought it was really cool. His enthusiasm was amazing. Yesterday I came across that War of the Roses series (its on KZbin now) and I LOVE IT.

[@WLDB]

I could watch these two all day. Hope they do it again sometime.

[@SabbiaVivo]

What great interview. Hope you get the chance to interview George again when The winds of winter is done.

[@jodysheridan604]

Dan Jones' Plantagonet is a wonderful read, he makes that era move along.

[@aesir1ases64]

Love how Dan is honestly excited for the book, maybe for many the idea of a fake history book might sound boring but for him it hits differently as a historian himself.

[@cdr861532]

This is amazing.....I love Dan Jones and I totally love GRRM. I came across Jones on Netflix talking about the castles of Britain, and I dove in after that. I've been watching a documentary of sorts about the British crown (it's a playlist of several videos on KZbin). These 2 together are so badass.

[@matthewgordonpettipas6773]

Dan Jones's History of the Plantagenet Dynasty is a great read. I also enjoy his book on the Knights Templar.

[@Kanoshem]

Martin is like Sapkowski (The Witcher Author), he wrote a great story but it went mostly unrecognised until it reached a different media platform (for Martin TV, for Sapkowski Video Games then TV). They are both brilliant and I am glad to see that they are both doing so well. My favourite is still Tolkien however!

[@ShadowedAgony]

I love when George speaks. Ik people would be mad but he would be an excellent podcaster. The interviewer he was excellent as well.

[@andraspongracz5996]

A prequel titled "The long night"? I am hooked: if fictional history repeats itself, this is going to be the first TV-series that consists of a single, short episode with an abrupt end (spoiler: the main villain trips and falls into dragon glass lying on the floor).

[@peepoSano]

sad the long night got cancelled :(

[@Tina06019]

This is the best interview of GRRM I have ever heard. I really enjoyed it.

[@leonardsimonis2376]

I want to read the chapter in which tyrion meets the shrouded lord. i loved his journey in adwd, especially the chapters nearby volantis and on the rhoyne. The chapter in which the greyscale-zombies attack them is so good...

[@wooshmeifurgay7452]

I am still in acok, and what???

[@soahamtripathy2113]

@@wooshmeifurgay7452 where are you now?

[@wooshmeifurgay7452]

@@soahamtripathy2113 I got bored of asoiaf so I am now at page 100 of affc

[@soahamtripathy2113]

@@wooshmeifurgay7452 loll it isnt that boring

[@M4RRKL33C33]

Loved the interview. Especially the "running late" gag at the end. Lmao.

[@julianthunderfist7137]

George and Dan, great stuff. Enjoyed. Late to the party but enjoyed.

[@kirstin1147]

Great !!!!! One great historian ( Dan “the man” ) in conversation with another great historian , albeit fantasy ,but this is a fantastic interview and hat off to you GRRM , . ....George RR Martin - 1st of his name - king of story telling - lord of fantasy and protector of the WORLD of ICE and FIRE .....🎼❄️🔥 ....🦇

[@silbus8670]

we: where is Elden Ring? Where is a song of ice and fire the last volume? Martin: yes.

[@turtleanton6539]

Last? He needs to finish the second to last first

[@wooshmeifurgay7452]

Elding ring is coming out in 7 months

[@FuriousJunker]

Did u play Elden ring plus dlc

[@jackgaltress7790]

A fascinating and wonderful interview. A big admirer of them both.

[@joshualabelle2744]

24:40 Wait, what? George met a deadline?!?!?

[@turtleanton6539]

Dragon's and Whitewalkers is one thing but THATS hard to believe

[@HomeNuke]

"Readers won't stop and appreciate the descriptions of a meadow." Here we are years later, and Alt Shwift and Glidus have done multiple 3 hour reviews of the food descriptions on the series

[@emrecck]

Best converstaion ever! We love George, please stay with us! 😢❤️ And thank you for the insights from Fire and Blood Part II 🙏🏻

[@satanamogila9251]

Great interviewer. Not cringy, lets Martin talk and finish, and has somewhat original questions

[@KartickePant]

His answer for the Sword - DAWN basically confirms that DAWN is the one that was and perhaps will be used to defeat The Others!!!!

[@pacesettenbrino2065]

Jon Dayne Stark

[@ktfilms89]

I was thinking something similar. The upcoming fight is literally the war for the dawn. Maybe its for *the* Dawn - it's a sword with magical properties, perhaps the fallen star holds some significance to the Others and they want the damn thing back. And (not got the books to hand) but I'm sure the colouring of the Others and Dawn are weirdly similar.

[@saldanamoreno]

I very rarely have the patience to watch an hour long youtube video but i was captivated with this interview. Excellent!

[@morothane]

10:20 I might disagree. I will say that while Tolkien did have LOTR sort of bloom from the Hobbit, he was most certainly an architect. While it was a sequel to Hobbit, it was a mild reverse engineering of making the Hobbit in the same realm and mythology he built separately his entire life. The world, languages, cultures, history, even from the beginning of the universe, was developed before he wrote LOTR.

[@spectacleHD]

Yes but to Tolkien those world, languages, cultures and history were the main project, not the secondary one and in developing them, he took a 'gardener' approach.

[@CHLOCHLOLP]

ithink the fact his career took off later in life is very inspiring, it reminds you that its never to late to make something amazing.

[@cdr861532]

Twain, Stoker, Bukowski and Tolkien all got a late start (at least in their 40s) before their careers took off.

[@wantedalive0]

True, it's very inspiring!

[@WritingDialogue]

Dan Jones is savage AF in this interview. I don't know if it's intentional or not... "Fittingly, we're running late." "Well, I think you've got a bit of fallen star in you."

[@iBot.]

A recent GRRM interview? How TF did I miss this??

[@jdigiovanni8727]

I remember in Barnse & Noble. book store, Just finished David Grmmal series ..Looking for simular...Saw the Gold book, Game of Throns. Still remember the new book smell . Good memories

[@hereticlife2546]

Two of my favorite writers.

[@kylevandervyver6756]

Perfect interview. This helped so much.

[@krystinfriling6371]

I LOVE Dan Jones. Very interesting to hear the creative process and the stories behind the stories.

[@GHOST6472]

That’s what I call an interview

[@underlinedluke]

Great interview, maybe the best with Martin I've seen so far. Very insightful and funny.

[@nakbaloch7946]

Great interview with broad discussions about different categories of storytelling and world-building. I love the way that he describes things.

[@KimGen712]

❤ Great interview!

[@grigoriy6336]

I'm crying 😭😭 Thank you!

[@brycedozois3826]

I love Dan Jones this guy is a history channel legend and I'm happy that he's a seemingly normal guy

[@wurstgitarre]

40:27 Love the Spinal Tap reference. Makes me like him even more. :)

[@jackjuby438]

This is the best title of a KZbin video ever.

[@cynthiarichardson8189]

God those ocacional F bombs is saying to me how down to earth he is. Love it

[@Visuzureageleer]

What an amazing interview. Thank you. I must say this was the best and interesting Talk with GRRM. The moderator has immense knowledge of the works of George. Which is very important. I have watched previously where a woman moderator had no idea of his work and she was raising naïve questions.

[@thomasmuandersontheneousul4184]

The NY talk - she knew the show but even that she was weak and asking very basic questions

[@theshoes7488]

Think about if they had a great person asking whatever we kinda wanted. Ask about fan conspiracy theories. How that potentially could have negative effects. Ask about “depth” of characters ask about opinion of sequels. Ask what his favorite story that’s not his.... what’s his proudest story? Ect Ect. Love you guys stay safe.

[@Snakie747]

Who's here in 2021 still waiting for WoW. :(

[@alialmuhanna4938]

1:06:24 Dawn … I can’t wait to see what it can do. Thanks for the teaser, GRRM.

[@thechronicler1453]

I just love how every question turns into a whole reminiscent anecdote 😂😂

[@magicdee]

George RR Martin referencing Tarantino..... this must be what heaven feels like

[@CruelJudgement1]

this man is my hero. geroge martin i love you beautiful man

[@captainwumbo7629]

Fantastic interview

[@PlayNiceFolks]

Television is sublime. "of such excellence, grandeur, or beauty as to inspire great admiration or awe."

[@PlayNiceFolks]

History...is rather "ordinary"

[@alexanderninethson8801]

I just wanted that book, fire & Blood, with that cover page. the black one. It's gorgeous.

[@HebrewsElevenTwentyFive]

This was wonderful. So glad that he visited the UK! 😃🤙🏾🇬🇧🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿

[@JLchevz]

I would DIE to get those unfinished or scrapped chapters, man they would be a treat to read as an anthology of scrapped chapters.

[@FenjaFemkeVeit]

Good interview! He let im talk a lot and asked interesting questions. 👍

[@Madmax45247]

After the watching the whole thing the biggest surprise was that I never knew how short George was.

[@peachyedwards]

31:37 The way Dan looks at the guy who sneezes 😂

[@NoctLightCloud]

this hall itself looks amazing!

[@TheDHCBO2]

Dan Jones is cool

[@crypto4van254]

grr martin is going to live 111 years ;-) still..i am worried about GOT "a dream of spring" to be finished at all..please...stay healthy, GRR!!!!--lovely interview, by the way. thanx for posting!!!

[@jacklantern7505]

I would love to hear dan narrate fire and blood part 1.

[@ZanzibarBreeze]

Dan Jones is a national treasure

[@Esrom_music]

Oh I fucking love that architect gardener analogy

[@Kulah-SS]

Great interview. There's a book called Arrows of Light, that reminds me of Martin's work, except that it's set in an imaginary Native America.

[@geraltofrivia2342]

I was here!!

[@tonichan89]

31:40 I love collaborating with others and I have very rarely had the opportunity to do so; the way George describes it makes me long for it so much.

[@MontyQueues]

my inspiration to write !

[@mr.potato4276]

i love George R.R. Martin 😍

[@williambrock3534]

Jaherys was just amazing. Great writing.

[@TaraLeigh_in_Canada]

🎉📕I Looove hearing this writer speak 🎤📖❤

[@magicbuns4868]

The hardest scene he wrote turned out to be the best scene

[@wallacelovecraft8942]

A nice interview, indeed.

[@SapphireSolstice67]

5:30 "My forth book didn't sell well so I had to give up and become a Hollywood star writer"

[@LetsGoGetThem]

Waiting patiently for the _real_ ending to ASOIAF/AGOT. :)

[@carylacourse6922]

I bought Legends because it had a new George R.R. Martin story. I got the second one, too.