In the Team Room- Special Operations Recruiter (SOR) MSgt Donovan Gann

MSgt Donovan Gann, with 15 years of experience in the recruiting realm and most of it as a Special Operations Recruiter (SOR) sits down with us here in the Team Room and drops some knowledge bombs! We love Donovan, and we asked him back on to get the most up to date and accurate information out there. Everything from coming straight in off the street, cross-training from another service, down to exactly how much time everything takes gets covered in this one.
Thank you to a close friend of our podcast and subject matter expert, MSgt Donovan Gann.
As always, you can find MSgt Gann on Instagram @supergann or through the Ones Ready Instagram or Facebook page. Train hard!
Chapter Markers:
0:00 Welcome to the Team Room- Watch Trent Screw the intro up!
01:04 Trent Catches Smoke
01:40 MSgt Gann's Info
06:40 Common Cross Training Mistakes
08:10 Number of Prior Service Slots Per Year?
11:00 Changes To Cross Training Windows/Timelines
35:00 Terrible Teams
42:10 Aaron tries to find a Developer
42:45 ... and then Aaron puts himself on time out
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#AFSPECWAR #AirForceSpecialWarfareTraining #SOFPrep

[@mdgann6241]

Quick update since this podcast was recorded...Prior Service (not Retrainees) NOW ATTEND SW Prep prior to attending A&S.

[@jpo7008]

Retrainees dont go to SW? Do they go straight to A&S?

[@mdgann6241]

@@jpo7008 I can double check to see if retrainees are attending prep. I want to say they are now, but not 100% sure.

[@jpo7008]

@@mdgann6241 thank You, Im 2+ years in going to talk to my career advisor tomorrow for my crosstrain into AFSPECWAR to find out what I need to start the process

[@mdgann6241]

@@jpo7008 send me an email.

[@DeadeyeDonnie_]

Do prior service members retain rank of E5 when joining the AF or have to attend AF BMT?

[@Madmikey-dt8fx]

This guy, MSgt Gann, is the real deal. I just had a great phone conversation with him about a possible future in AFSPECWAR. He didn’t have to take the time to talk to me but he did and that means so much. He’s also very straightforward. You guys are lucky to have him as an asset and we are lucky to have y’all to guide us in our decision making process and for introducing us to major players we need to know in the recruiting process!

[@machfox3953]

This episode was the jackpot for me. There were lots of questions of mine that were answered here. Thank y’all so much for another kickass episode!

[@chrisgrijalva6166]

Thank you guys so much for this information! It’s nice to have someone who can give a definitive answer on prior service trying to obtain a special warfare contract!

[@parthpatel4134]

this was perfect addition for all information about cross training Sergent ! hooyah

[@otnielaponte3050]

5:00 “Hold That” lol

[@bcziggy21]

Don't know who that Trent guy is, but he sure has a cool last name

[@Madmikey-dt8fx]

Very inspirational dude along with the rest of the guys. Even though he never gets too deep into SR that’s what intrigued me more about that AFSC!

[@megstafford8309]

@@Madmikey-dt8fx same here!

[@megstafford8309]

What entails the PAST test? I thought I was prepared to enlist SERE a few years ago, however my recruiter didn’t have a lot of crucial information for me, so it left me greatly underprepared-although I’ve never taken the PAST. After finding this podcast and consistently asking questions and doing research, I can confidently say I would have failed hard. I’m 26 now, compared to the first time I talked to a recruiter at 23, and it’s still my dream to join the AFSPECWAR as a SERE specialist and help my team to go above and beyond expectations to help/defend others. I’m from WV, luckily allowing the opportunity for a lot of varying terrain and conditions to train. Im still in college, too, so I still have around 1 1/2 to 2 years of time to prepare to meet these goals and try to break any boundaries. I picked up the Kaplan ASVAB prep plus and I’ve been studying it as well as some other necessary skills I need to work on. I try to go to the gym and run everyday because I’m also trying to lose weight. Thanks to this podcast, I can prepare better for this, even if I don’t know it all. There is always time to grow and learn. I make mistakes in everyday life and I can say like hell that I would definitely give it my all to push through no matter what it takes.

[@thevanguard9758]

Great Job MSgt Gann!!

[@kadencblackstock]

Glad to see more information for retraining. I didnt know a PTL or Supervisor could administer a PAST. MyPers doesnt give much guidence on the requirements needed for packages. If approved, I'd galdly volunteer to go to prep first. I know the expectations set for me before getting to Indoc, but prep has so much information that I'd love to learn plus, thats 8 weeks of working on your weaknesses FULL-TIME instead of trying to fit it in around family, work, and other Air Force responsibilities.

[@Stealingiscaring]

Small correction: It's A&S now, not Indoc.

[@Madmikey-dt8fx]

I was hoping to do BMT again because it’s been over 10 years since I’ve been in the Military but apparently no BMT for Prior Service. Hopefully at least get to go through SW Prep before A & S!

[@kadencblackstock]

@@Stealingiscaring Same same haha

[@mannyactual]

FNG Academy would be awesome collaboration

[@Cerrotti]

Shipping off to basic JAN 19th. Going to cross train into SEAR when I can, thanks for the podcast guys.

[@loganwells548]

SERE

[@Madmikey-dt8fx]

I do a practice PAST every Wednesday!

[@NietzscheanWill]

If you pass AFSOC assessment & selection and then complete your initial active duty contract can you rejoin AFSOC after you switch into a different career field outside of AFSOC (Big Air Force, Navy, Army, Marines) etc.? If so, what does the process look like, and what are possible limitations?

[@starshockey11]

Do prior service Navy or non- Air Force prior service attend phase 2 or is that just prior service Air Force that goes to phase 2?

[@justelynnnjoelle]

first and LET'S FREAKIN GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[@jeffh6960]

Is it difficult for someone to ETS them come back in for a SOF job? Retraining into itself is kind of trash in comparison to new recruits.

[@SENTRY_AVENGER77]

Dang SEAC 4😅😂

[@jim99west46]

Where can you get a Burn the Boats flag?

[@0utlawactual363]

Do yall have a workout regiment/routine/program that I can borrow 👀👀👀👀?

[@mdgann6241]

You can go to: www.airforcespecialtactics.af.mil/join and there is a workout and nutrition plan that has been created by our human performance section to assist.

[@megstafford8309]

Look up @18AFitness on here, in google and on IG. I’ve been watching these in the mornings while I’m in school, and I found that one day. Plethora of information these gentlemen are sharing!

[@jonathonmoores9137]

Howtobeapj

[@jonathonmoores9137]

Brian Silva workout program , it’s the best thing

[@jim99west46]

Any Navy move over?

[@mdgann6241]

Yes.

[@ryanjohnston8424]

@@mdgann6241 so does the DD368 mean that if you don’t make it through A&S, you can return to your original branch of service? Or once you start A&S, are you then an Air Force member and you’d get redesignsted to another AF MOS?

[@mdgann6241]

@@ryanjohnston8424 no. You would be in the Air Force. If you don’t make it through or are not selected at A&S, you may (not always) be separated.