Incognito Darknet Admin Extorts Darknet Vendors: With Nothing - Many Cave.

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In this updated analysis, we specifically critique the actions of a darknet administrator threatening to release buyer addresses to coerce payment from vendors. Such threats demonstrate a profound misunderstanding of legal standards for prosecution, which require concrete evidence beyond mere addresses or accusations. The reliance on these threats highlights a lack of ethical integrity and a misguided belief in the power of intimidation over legal substance.
The historical context of cyber law further undermines the administrator's position. In previous legal proceedings, courts have consistently required substantial evidence linking an individual directly to criminal activities. Mere insinuations or possession of information found on the darknet have not sufficed for convictions, reflecting a judicial acknowledgment of the need for incontrovertible proof. This precedent exposes the futility of the administrator's threats as a legally unsound and ineffective strategy.
Critically, the administrator's approach not only misinterprets legal realities but also erodes the foundational trust within the darknet community. By exploiting fear without a legitimate legal basis, the administrator acts in a manner that is both ethically reprehensible and strategically flawed. This behavior highlights the importance for individuals within these communities to remain informed about their legal protections against such baseless threats.
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00:00 Introduction
00:11 The situation
01:06 Active extortion and robbery
01:49 This why built in encryption is not good.
03:19 Insanity
04:13 Scared darknet vendors
06:45 Darknet vendors getting robbed multiple times over....foolishness.
11:04 Weak Darknet Vendors
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[@DoingFedTime]

Admin has said he is coming for buyers next. My advice, is still the same. Trusting an extortionist is foolish, your better of saving your money, and cleaning house in expectation. Also big thanks to tortimes(dot)com for breaking the story. Subscribe to him on Pitch (check daunt(dot)link).

[@thechronic555]

Its like thieves copied your house keys and robbed you. But you aint changin the keys regardles. You just hope the thieves have a change of heart and stop robbin 😅

[@ryanclark4649]

Have you seen that this admin pharaoh seems to quite possibly also be a fraud vendor known as magician or "ma61c1an" from back in the day? Seems like this was their plan from the very beginning. They knew the BTC halvening was coming up, but once the price started mooning early they pulled the trigger and started the exit

[@jld3106]

And how would any one proof that its your order? The address is public. Anyone could ned drugs there.

[@user-hg8re3ql2k]

How dirty this admin can be imagine stealing people that trusted you and after that demanding ransom or you will snitch on them , i think the market was comprimised and now the feds are now trying to make some money from that

[@ryanclark4649]

@@user-hg8re3ql2k the admin pharaoh is believed to be an Ex fraud/carding vendor, so it's no surprise really. Also to happen at the same time as the BTC pump, dude is probably cracked out on meth or something and thinks he is untouchable, I disagree. I'm sure previous exit scammers have been tracked down and dealt with... let alone a rat bastard like pharaoh.

[@nycrsny3406]

Extortion after exit scamming is wild! Vendors folding is almost wilder lol. Like what makes you think a scammer and extortionist will keep his word???

[@DoingFedTime]

My incognito market admin is not trustworthy. #darknet #crypto #tor #darkweb

[@bishopboomer113]

Thanks for covering this and bringing it to a wider audience, this has been a wild ride to watch unfold. Much respect for giving your fans and viewers rock solid advice to protect themselves. Great stuff man!

[@m.k.738]

New to this world but this is the example of a site runner who wants to be made an example of.

[@danielgoddu4673]

I can't wait for that vendor message to be showed to a damn jury lmfao

[@Bingshuina-yp7nm]

I have no idea why said actor/admin is so confident. Having a vast amount of money isn't going to protect them. There is serious cartel groups associated to even more serious groups on said markets. A huge ego trip, it will end in blood one way or another.

[@nothingtoseehere449]

this whole thing has been wild to witness I’ve never seen an admin do something like this before. I hope it’s not a new trend.

[@grants7390]

i doubt it will be considering the outcome, at least not openly.

[@jgdkekrb]

Following this on Dread has been nuts.

[@DoingFedTime]

dread has been nuts during the incognito exit scam and subsequent extortion attempt #darknet

[@irae9]

Federal LE should go after these types of people lol. If you figure they're just people who did not write the laws but still have to enforce them .. they could prob do a lot of good by focusing on scammers like this. Thanks for the video.

[@MEGAMCLOVIIN]

You’re criminally underrated no pun intended

[@MentalMarathon_]

Fr

[@DoingFedTime]

This is probably one of my favorite comments of all time, I laughed for a solid 60 seconds.

[@fd20231]

Your videos are as informative as entertaining!! Thank you homie!!

[@elguero933]

Sam, loved this video. Your really an educator

[@bawlout9367]

I saw the other video and felt the need to hear it from YOU. your content is important enough bro keep grinding your on the righ track and have traction!.

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you for taking the time to comment, I appreciate the support.

[@darrenmillard9831]

And now nemesis has been seized by the police....

[@DoingFedTime]

Yep.

[@electrified0]

My take on the extortion is that it is a bluff, simply because that is the most self serving logical thing for the admins to do. Whether or not they actually release info, they get the same amount of extortion payments, but releasing info has the potential to inadvertently compromise themselves while painting a massive target on their backs. Their only real leverage gained by actually releasing info is to build reputation as a reputable extortionist, which seems less likely than just lying for free money.

[@gdragon2000]

I think the release date supposedly April 1st

[@gdragon2000]

April 1st was a big giveaway for this being a bluff I think

[@LucyDropp]

Another insane video! Keep it up!

[@Cosmo679x]

can't even grab a tissue to clean your nose without people thinking "they sniffing drugs"

[@timothywcrane]

I agree it was scum baggy, but much needed. When the tech of alternative private networks becomes more open to "mainstream" uses to get out of the Soronic eyes, it may skip the naive NFT rug pull with movie stars era. All of our celebrities will be custom on demand AI by then. See you in 6 months.

[@thahrimdon]

Great video man!

[@J4ckski]

if they do leak the details (which they won’t let’s be honest) they will contain ALL entries. Anyone who thinks they are spending time removing people details that have paid a ransom should lay off the copium for a while lol

[@BigFatSeal10]

Lmao @ supposedly high level, serious op-sec vendors assuming good faith with criminals on the internet. Crazy, the guys who paid the ransom should quit this field of work.

[@konkeydonged]

13:37 I see what you did there

[@poppy3879]

What?

[@headlights-go-up]

I always knew you were Spider-Man…lol

[@naesone2653]

That ghandi bit killed me 😂

[@the_serial_chiller]

Fuck, this is wild! I thought I had seen a lot, being around since the final days of Silk Road, but I’m still always amazed when something like this happens. What’s the bet this starts a trend? If you’re going to exit scam, why wouldn’t you extort the vendors and customers while you’re at it? There’s numerous reasons that I wouldn’t, but I’m not everyone. In 99% of cases, if you’re exit scamming, you evidently lack integrity. I am just surprised we didn’t see something like this sooner. Once again, people, never trust the ‘auto-encrypt’ feature! I thought everyone had realised that by now - apparently not. PGP really isn’t that difficult, and if you’re not prepared to put in the OPSEC basics, then stick to the street. Or better yet, avoid this word entirely.

[@the_serial_chiller]

From an ‘oh shit, I need to save my own arse’ perspective, saving all of this data makes sense. Most people don’t stand staunch when push comes to shove, and market admins are no different. Said data would be valuable to LE and would serve as a good bargaining chip if they were ever busted. I suppose we should all assume the worst - that the worst will happen, and that all of the people involved have ill-intent. With all of that being said, I am not saying that I necessarily believe that this is the case, just that it would make some sense. Whether they have the data or not, it’s an easy way to extort people. The reality is that this could all simply be a ruse.

[@the_serial_chiller]

Anyway, another great video! Thanks for covering this. It’s just a shame that this even had to be covered, as most of this is common sense (or it at least should be). Those who would actually be facing remotely serious consequences (not someone ordering an ounce here and there), should absolutely know better.

[@ryanconroy8596]

Fuck them. Dont give up anything. This is such a scumfucc thing for any dnm to do especially one that was as functional as incognito. As far as I'm concerned I would say blow me to the admins. I just hope this does not deter future markets and vendors but at the same time loss is to be expected but don't just give it up. Who knows you could pay and they could still come for more bullshit.

[@CrittingOut]

5:10 counterpoint, they wanted the gum but didn't want it to feel as though you are doing something for them

[@joshiewhite]

It feels like the website was hacked. This is so unhinged its unreal... when using darknet markets you somewhat expect exit scams, but this is fucking wild.

[@DoingFedTime]

Could be, anything is possible. I agree it's crazy.

[@marcharrison9847]

Mad respect to this guy

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you, likewise!

[@Jeffery_Saulter]

Good luck finding me I am behind seven proxies.

[@bart_allen]

i love your channel !

[@DoingFedTime]

Thank you so much @bart_allen I appreciate you taking the time to comment!!

[@cyberbeep5187]

I’m gonna be honest, I’ve observed the dark net markets for years (as far back as dream market) and these are my deductions: 1) this market might be full of crap and just greedy Or 2) this market is greedy, incredibly stupid, and is messing with some people they REALLY don’t wanna mess with. These vendors usually have connections to the criminal underworld/criminal organizations. It wouldn’t be far fetched to believe they/he have prices on their heads now

[@PepeJulia]

❤

[@crispyslicker1038]

awesome video i love you and your channel i think of you as my wizardly sketchy uncle

[@densidste9137]

imagine that if you already had a close call its a small cost to believe they're safer

[@peterRobinson10101]

So a easy way of filtering the data if u were LE would be to have ppl with something at risk to come forth and pay... those that dont pay likely have good opsec. it makes no financial sense to extort clients rather than sell the market to a competitor or even just keep trading for a month. They also missed out on the obvious NFT icons they could have launched from the pixel pic profiles. So this imo makes no financial sense at all. not to mention should they ever get doxed.... im guesssing we see a big announcement on April fools day or /and rhis is LE having a big giggle.

[@sbo3]

Fuck, I have been sloppy with my OPSEC and only ever paid with Bitcoin. Now I'm so anxious that I will be traced (I'm in the UK).

[@tmbgunner]

You'll be fine bro, extremely small fish in a very big pond 👍 XMR from now on and fix up the OPSEC. Stay safe brother

[@sbo3]

@@tmbgunner thanks man, yeah I've calmed down a bit since then as I'd only just heard about it and was freaking out haha. Should be fine. Goodbye Bitcoin!!

[@DoingFedTime]

I don't know about the laws in the UK, but I can tell you that here in the US, the ability to trace a buy is only one part of a investigation.

[@ChrisHaefner]

Eff man the admin already has all the vendors money. How could they pay

[@lipvandip6480]

People should be noting down the vendors that have paid, they're obviously not confident in their opsec

[@TheRealHaloCorps]

This feels like a state actors trap to crush hidden marketplaces

[@DoingFedTime]

Anything is possible on the DN. That said, the only thing they have done is cause a news frenzy around it, effectively reminding people of the existence of DNMs.

[@andyturbo]

@@DoingFedTime Exactly. It's not logical for this to be L.E simply because its a waste of time that yields next to nothing. They are out there to make arrests and that's done by covert investigations and staying non detected until enough evidence is gathered to pounce (I know you know this) Its just pointless for L.E to be extorting in this way, as it doesn't lead to anything beneficial and is just pointless loud noise.

[@NolanCoe]

Bro is the digital rain in the background an actual projector in the room? If so where can I buy one lol

[@DoingFedTime]

Yes, it's a projector, I got it years ago on amazon. :)

[@jacobroddy7939]

This is fucking insane

[@LastDigitOnMyScratchOffTicket]

"Beecher from Oz" Really dating yourself.

[@PLAYBOY_WASTELAND]

Incognito admin is absolutely insane for this 😂

[@orca6930]

please make a video about loveletters!

[@ActionJaxonH]

Agree with 99% of what you're saying. One thing though. Even IF it's not info that can be used for prosecution, some may not even want to be put on the radar, ya know? That alone may be enough motivation to say screw it, I'd rather pay than risk LE start watching me (assuming it's a bigger vendor, ya know?) It sucks cause I DESPISE the idea of paying this dude anything. Nonetheless, sometimes emotions and pride must be set aside and logic prevail.

[@DoingFedTime]

I 100% understand that 'risking' it is a deterrence factor for people not paying. I would point out though that it's just purely predicated on fear. If no prosecution can come of it, then there is not an actual threat. When worrying about 'being put on the radar' your opsec should already be tight enough to know what your actual exposure level is, and there should be counters for that. Paying a known liar is a waste of money and time. Use those resources to lock things down, get another drop, clean house, or purchase items that aid in preventative measures.

[@kjellkriminell372]

Im thinking the people who paid the ransom were those who know their messages contained personal unencrypted information and have been sloppy with their privacy/opsec. The vendors are completely unaffected, only buyers send their addresses unless vendors have been messing up in dms.

[@reefermonster9651]

from what I gather Pharoah was tech and had full access and took it over. It does not make sense to pay because what they really want is incog admins at the end of the day. The rest of the incog team had good intentions

[@Rjekrn3k8]

What if someone only spent some cash on seeds worth of 35 usd will he get busted or not? He lives in hungary europe and bought from netherlands

[@koba2160]

god

[@Aquamous]

He will get busted because viktor orban is fron hungary

[@aw7x]

lmfaao

[@angellmpls1]

You forgot to say SWIM first. Now you're in trouble!

[@andyturbo]

Of course not. Think realistic man, I am not trying to be mean but so many people don't think logically when panicking. Every single investigation by law enforcement costs money and resources. You can bet there will be hundreds of thousands of piss time personal quantity orders and each one would require an investigation if the goal was to make an arrest. They don't have the time/money/or care about orders like yours when they are no doubt already allocating everything they have to those who will make an investigation worthwhile (by this I am talking about those trafficking/supplying commercial/large commercial quantities. They won't get much government funding the next year if their overall results are pages of prosecutions full of minor charges. Pretty much when the police catch big fish - they get funded more which keeps the higher-ups happy.

[@Usmc913]

As much as I don't want to admit this. This is actually kind of a good thing. They just gave us a list of vendors to never trust again. If you fold that quick to something that shouldn't be a problem because you should use your own encryption. You're not in the right line of work.

[@RitTF2]

Crazy that people even trust this online stuff to make purchases, I’m surprised every market isn’t just a siphon into some dudes Bitcoin wallet lol

[@DoingFedTime]

It's a hub for BILLIONS per year. Also, no trust is needed with good opsec. Don't Trust, Verify.

[@jaywaup]

Best lesson of this whole video is from @6:26 to 6:46. But, y’all not listening though.

[@MorningStarChrist]

Extortion is also a crime :)

[@DoingFedTime]

darknet market admin criminals #darknet #cyberthreats

[@arrowhead1235]

Its really only a matter of time IMO before the incognito team is found. I mean how long could they really go pissing off this large an amount of people without someone doing something. And the fact that the owner of Incognito is just fueling the fire more with his responses. I mean an exit scam is somewhat expected but EXTORTION?? Like how scummy can you be.

[@DoingFedTime]

💯

[@J4ckski]

I think that some vendors may have paid the ransom as it would give the impression of caring for their customers. Therefor I think its possibly a bit harsh to say that ALL vendors that have paid the ransom are doing so through ignorance. the $3 million Sharpie made me lol. Never pay more than $2.5m

[@negrastormentas2865]

Are there not addresses for package delivery in these non-encrypted messages inside Incognito ?

[@the_serial_chiller]

Assuming this story is true, there would be delivery addresses there. It’s simply that an address is not enough evidence to establish guilt or anything remotely close to it. This is because anyone can order anything to any address. I’d like to think that people are ordering to drop addresses (ie. not their own address) more often than not. While I’m sure this practice isn’t as common as I would like to believe/it should be, and people are shipping to their own place, there is nothing to worry about so long as you practice good OPSEC. Clean house and be prepared if you are concerned about the data that they may have. If you are ordering to your house, it should already be clean as fuck. At the end of the day, unless there’s other evidence and/or they have been building a case on you, an address wouldn’t even be enough ‘evidence’ to grant a search warrant. If they are building a case on you, you have bigger problems than an address appearing in the leak. At the end of the day, it comes down to plausible deniability. For all we know, that ex that you cheated on ordered the drugs to your place, in the hopes of you getting arrested.

[@negrastormentas2865]

@@the_serial_chiller Yes. But there would be the chance of feds tracing the package to the places they were sent from and wathcing those places to see when those kinds of packages show up.

[@Davisionn1]

I think the idea is that regardless of whether or not you pay, that information won’t be deleted. So it makes the most sense to just clean your op and do what you need to do. Either they pass along the info to feds or don’t, but paying the extortionist just guarantees they will be back for more money

[@the_serial_chiller]

@@negrastormentas2865 While I understand what you’re saying, I don’t quite agree. (At least in my country, which shares similar laws and values to the US) they wouldn’t conduct such an operation for long-hanging fruit, and it’s the low-hanging fruit that is most likely to not have PGP encrypted sensitive data themselves. On your other point, all of this information is outdated, so I’d imagine that (theoretically) by the time the data is sent to LE that almost all of the parcels will have been delivered. At that point, it just comes down to OPSEC. If you reuse a burnt address, then you are putting yourself at a far greater risk. It should be assumed any address not properly PGP encrypted is burnt at this point.

[@the_serial_chiller]

@@Davisionn1 That’s very true.

[@4b5urd.]

Dread has been wild af since this started. Its grimey af though, and I fully believe karma will bite the admin in the ass in the end. Always does Thank your higher power for PGP and common sense... or good opsec! ^^

[@fourtraxx3921]

I believe all of these markets are being run by law engorcement incliding this extortion. Honestly it is the only way to “Tackle” the DNM market problem. Wear everyone out financially, stress, etc. think about it…

[@L_Train]

They'll always be new players in the game. I don't think it would stop a thing. I don't think this one is law enforcement but obviously was likely completely penetrated by law enforcement.

[@StefanReich]

I don't believe that

[@johngoldsworthy7135]

That’s entrapment

[@MacGuffin1]

wary not weary bro, but if u were on that site by now u would be both....

[@dogewow8999]

Wait, aren't you obligated to use GPG for such communication? Trust no one

[@DoingFedTime]

Sometimes, some markets in history have made it mandatory it's a good standard. I dislike the auto encrypt feature, as it does promote complacency.

[@BigFatSeal10]

Literally cannot believe how many supposedly highly op-sec oriented, big time vendors folded like lawn chairs lol!!! I am a regular dude and I know better. The people who paid the ransom should find another field of work.