Installing Air Ride on the front of a 1970 C10

Today we knocked out bagging the front of my 1970 C10. New brackets and bags were installed. Stay tuned for an update when we install switches and the tank/compressor.

[@NVSRides]

Very cool truck. Keep up the great work

[@deankay4434]

The “Brother Truck Parts” video indicate the fronts lower control arm that has the rebound bumper bracket can rub when lowered to a given height and cut it off. You may check if yours are rubbing or show witness marks. I found your remarks about the ride quality interesting, as you expressed a desire to install coil springs are it does not ride better or smoother. I commented below as it remains a fight between “Sprung & Un-Sprung” weight remains that same. You can’t fool physics. Retired ASE Master Tech.

[@yomommajumprcables]

Nice sir

[@robbiegirosky7055]

Forgot to cut the bump stop off. Will eventually rub a hole in the bag

[@VegasRT500]

How does your wheel alignment keep from wearing out tires with all the different ride heights? I am thinking about bagging my 1968 Chevy C10

[@thesouthernc1092]

from my understanding you would get it aligned at the height you would drive, but if you lowered it and drove it could affect the wear of your tires.

[@ajmarqueling]

Are you running drop spindles or stock? I'm wanting my aired out position to end up lower than yours

[@deankay4434]

Drop spindles would determine the lowest possible “Down” position you could get. If the fronts raise 6” inches as said near end of the video, but lowered, a measurement of the bottom center of front fender (Say 26”) then minus the spindle drop of 3”, that = 23” total drop with the bags deflated. Only he can measure this and tell you since he created visual evidence of a 67-72 with these bags on deflated. The top mount is determined by the crossmember as bolted to the frame. Hope this helps. I too, wish he had a tape measure with level for a closely accurate measure fully down & fully up, include max air pressure recommended by “Airmaxxx” bag company. Give that company customer service a call, since the guy in the video busted watched, not measured and has not responded to your comment posted questions! Hope this helps. ASE Master - Retired

[@shannonlane5647]

If you dont mind answering where did you get that single piece tie rod adjustment with the nuts on the ends? Thanks

[@deankay4434]

I have seen this same tie rod adjuster bar w/jam nuts used in others videos. If aluminum which I think is is, use anti-size on tie rod threads to reduce galling or galvanic action due to dissimilar metals. It helps in a future adjustment as you don’t want an alignment tech taking your name in vain with other choice four letter words! Hope this helps! Check out; QA1, POL, CCP, Summit and others. Most are 11/16” - 18 TPI (Threads per Inch), this fits hundreds if not thousands of GM’s & others. Best of luck, hope this helps! ASE Master - Retired

[@garypease7414]

Do they make an airbag conversion for k1500/2500/3500 obs trucks?

[@benmitchell2642]

Did you loose any height after installing the front or rear bags? I like the stock height but wanna run bags for towing etc.

[@thesouthernc1092]

Ben Mitchell I gained some height after the bags were installed. I had a drop on my truck and the bags make it sit higher then the drop was when it is fully aired up.

[@Pachuco]

@@thesouthernc1092 I was wondering the same, is there a way to make it sit lower when air out?

[@deankay4434]

When any air bag has the air released, the bag collapses onto itself. I would guess most air bag manufacturers can give this height measurement thru customer service. The lowered height depends on a number of factors as for position on stock rear control arms where the springs mount, aftermarket control arms, modified frame and the bags upper mount position, all as up to desire height when emptied. Hope this helps! ASE Master - Retired

[@jchav1962]

Nice truck! Any issues with the track bar in the rear?

[@deankay4434]

They say, adjusting the rear track-bar or pan-hard bar on vehicles with modified riding heights, always start with standard height you like to run with. Then change or re-position your bar straight across level at this point. It works best for your likings. Hope this helps. ASE Master - Retired

[@mafosa8519]

Those bumps stops rub the bags?

[@thesouthernc1092]

no didnt have any rub, also didnt drive it when it was aired completely out, it would rub the inner fender so i had to raise it to drive it.

[@blue4980]

Can you daily drive a bagged car ? Is maintainance and reliability an issue?

[@thesouthernc1092]

A Ql yes you can daily it. Once I get my motor 100% I’m going to start daikyinf my truck.

[@terryfikes3830]

Will this work on a 1992 Dodge Ramcharger ? Where did you get this kit?

[@deankay4434]

@Terry Fikes >Call customer service at “Airmaxxx” the brand he used in this video. Remember, others may not go newer, but CCP, CJPony, QA1, Summit may have parts by year, make and model. Hope this helps.

[@anthonyguajardo1372]

Are you using stock spindles?

[@thesouthernc1092]

No I am using 2.5 drop spindles.

[@thesouthernc1092]

No I am using 2.5 drop spindles.

[@GrandiandSons]

Are they stock spindles?

[@thesouthernc1092]

Matthew J. Grandi no 2.5” drop spindles.

[@joeycal6877]

Can you ad a link on bag set up you are using?

[@thesouthernc1092]

Joey Cal I’m running airmaxxx 2600 on the front and 2500 on the rear. Bought the back brackets off eBay too.

[@dasausagehd3290]

Hey where did u buy this kit from?

[@thesouthernc1092]

got it all off of Ebay, it was AirMaxxx products, fairly cheap.

[@super38javier]

How does it drive compared to the springs it had ?

[@thesouthernc1092]

NorthTexasJavi honestly I’m thinking about going back to the springs. It doesn’t ride that much different. It’s rides smooth on flat ground but in Louisiana we have crap roads so it’s either too soft or too hard. No real in between.

[@super38javier]

The Southern C10 I see that’s unfortunate, I’m really considering bagging my Cadillac but I also don’t want to get rid of that comfy Cadillac ride , thanks anyway

[@deankay4434]

Well, that is an interesting observation and statement. But I suppose you can change physics. You have say 750 pounds on each front corner. If inflated to stock height or even lower, these bags are 2 ply stiff on the sides so they will not expand that direction as you hit bumps or fall into a hole. They can only compensate by changing internal pressure. It is odd I have researched the air bag C10 world and no one has asked this question before. Each bag is supporting “Unsprung Weight” meaning the tire, wheel, rotor, caliper, spindle & the steering knuckle it’s pressed into, lower & upper control arm and the shock are below and unsprung weight. While the fame, engine choice,,A/C or not but the body & fluids and those who sit in it represents the “Sprung Weight”. This load equalizes at any height. Makes sense to me as only the ride height would change as the load remains the same regardless. ASE Master Retired.

[@deankay4434]

“Can’t Change Physics” (I don’t have the edit feature)

[@socialdisfuction]

can i mount bags on my 69 with out replaceing a-arms spindles etc ? all factory

[@thesouthernc1092]

Socialdisfuction you can mount bags without lowering spindles. You won’t have as much drop tho, so if your looking to just have a good ride then that’s the way to go. If you are looking to get lower then get some spindles.

[@socialdisfuction]

@@thesouthernc1092 i heated springs in front all the way ive done the back already so if i mount bags in front i know it be a smoother ride but would it be lower?

[@thesouthernc1092]

Socialdisfuction yes it will drop you down to your bump stops on your lower control arm. See how much room you have till it bottoms and that’s how much lower you can go.

[@socialdisfuction]

@@thesouthernc1092 oh ok thanks i been putting off doing the front cause i thought i was gonna have to replace alotof stuff- thansk again

[@nelsonramos2218]

tire and wheel size please? love the truck

[@thesouthernc1092]

Nelson Ramos 20x8 with 4.5bs in front and 20x10 with 5.5 bs on rear. 245/45/20 & 275/40/20

[@nelsonramos2218]

@@thesouthernc1092 thank you sir

[@alexrodriguez6437]

Tire and wheel size are perfect 👌

[@tommueller8019]

Does it sit lower than before?

[@thesouthernc1092]

Yes the front and back would sit on the inner fenders and rear end, a couple inches lower than the springs.

[@geradosaucedo1615]

What’s is number part kit for air susoencion it’s good

[@thesouthernc1092]

dont have a part number. i parts it together on ebay. Airmaxxx was the brand i believe

[@tomhunt5795]

What bags did you use 2500 or 2600 for front and rear?

[@thesouthernc1092]

Tom Hunt i used 2600 for the front and 2500 for the rear.

[@brandondawson6896]

What size rims are those?

[@thesouthernc1092]

20x8.5 in front and 20x10 in the rear. Ridler wheels

[@brandondawson6896]

They look perfect. I have the same set up on mine as far as width, but 18’s. Wish I’d gotten 20’s they fit the hole better.

[@silverpuppet3728]

wouldn't it be safer to weld that bottom bracket and top bracket

[@thesouthernc1092]

Silver Puppet yeah it would be much safer! I bolted mine like the kit said because I wasn’t sure if I would keep it bagged.

[@silverpuppet3728]

@@thesouthernc1092 ok so then if it were gonna be a permanent install then yes u would have welded it.. ok that's understandable thanks for ur response

[@thruitallauto2538]

No safety glasses

[@qunicetoole7497]

Not to be hard on your brother but I'm surprised you didn't use any safety goggles when you're drilling holes, if those metal shavings get in your eyes it's pretty much the end of your eyesight there, Safety First.... I'm just sayin'

[@thesouthernc1092]

Qunice Toole yeah I probably should have. Was not thinking safety.

[@silverpuppet3728]

Qunice Toole he's to kool for safety

[@axtra92]

That not even low

[@thesouthernc1092]

andre92h I’m sure yours ain’t either! Lol