Intel ARC GPUs, tested one year later... Finally WORTH buying for your Gaming PC?

[@techyescity]

Getting some positive comments about the a380 and making a custom encode box with it. Might have to see if I can snag one up used. As jelly fin is gaining lots of traction.

[@alldecentnamestaken]

I’m running one on a BlueIris system (surveillance) with 16 4k cameras. It’s an absolute champ.

[@burrfoottopknot]

I really am impressed given the time Intel have had and where they are and if you watch how transperant they are with gamersnexus when asked questions, they are really establishing trust and attending feedback from customers IMHO. No small feat considering. EDIT: the intel team doing the interface need to talk with the software engineers having watched the whole video, capture card and uneer volting etc are issues that will effect purchasing

[@BK2Modder]

Any reason people are recommending the A380 over the A310 for Jellyfin transcoding?

[@IanTheCat]

Snagged an Arc A580 used for $125 USD and it does great for 1080p low settings and also have an A380 for encoding PLEX - both work wonderfully and the 580 does do some decent ray tracing

[@jrdoughty13]

A380 is the best bang for buck sff card and the a580 is one of the best value gpus under 200. Love my a380 in my z240 even with out rebar

[@mab2187]

If this is Intels first attempt with GPUs then I'd say its a success. They should improve.

[@anasevi9456]

yeah, first time someone tried to elbow into the duopoly in almost 20 years, and last time was a Hindenburg tier disaster; Google XGI Volari Duo to see how that went, and the company XGI had already make dGPUs for their parent company SiS with some success before.

[@shadowopsairman1583]

It is nottheir first, look up i740, then their igps...

[@Zesmas]

@@shadowopsairman1583 stop..........

[@auritro3903]

Its not their first, but the previous attempt (i740) was more than 2 decades ago, so at least in recent memory, its their first, and definitely impressive by that regard.

[@ianlarge9016]

@@auritro3903 I had a i740 and I think I paired with some type 3DFX card. I think the only was it being one of the first DirectX and Direct3d cards. Wasn't very from what I recall, but it none of the cards back then were anything to write home about.

[@thomaswood8167]

Considering where Intel started with the A770 and A750, getting them to the point where they are competing with an RX 6600 at the very worst is quite an achievement.

[@HazewinDog]

Unfortunately the reality is quite different. in DX11 and newer it might compete with the RX 6600 at worst, but when you get to less popular DX9 games, they can be completely unplayable. And then if you go even older, e.g. DX6 or DX7, everything is broken. Menus are improperly rendered, polygons are stretched to hell and back and textures are obliterated. It's a real shame.

[@jasonvors1922]

​@@HazewinDogThe cards were designed for dx9 and above anything older just grab a rx 6600 or rtx 2060 simple fix.

[@Tea-vf9gh]

@@jasonvors1922 yes very simple

[@Spenlard]

Really? I play lots of old titles with an A750 and A770. run RPCS3, PSX2, Project 64, and so on. Haven't experienced any of this. I also own an RX6600.

[@Spenlard]

@@HazewinDog Use it for OpenGL, and Dx9 often. No real issues.

[@jrose-xp6tf]

I was hoping for better numbers, maybe next year...I love these TYC morning vids, it goes GREAT with my coffee...keep up the good work!

[@HanSolo__]

Morning? 🤭

[@mintymus]

As Intel, you know you're doing bad when AMD GPUs are outperforming you in both drivers and efficiency.

[@najeebshah.]

@@mintymus buddy its their first go at mass market discrete gpus

[@mintymus]

@@najeebshah. I want them to succeed, but it just underscores how terrible they really are if even AMD is making better ones.

[@najeebshah.]

@@mintymus bruh its their first attempt , people were expecting worse. I can bet my ass second gen arc will outright be level with amd elsewhere and outright crunch them in raytracing. It absolutely trounces amd in professional work flows too

[@SenZjo]

been running a770 for a while now and already decided to get the battlemage, ive seen so much improvement in the last months im certain this underdog can deliver with the next gen..

[@deonbeaumont8033]

The a770 16gb performs as well as 3070 at 300 bucks. You're hard pressed to find better price to performance ratio with Intel constantly updating it.

[@brugj03]

3070 any day, it just runs things so much smoother, never crashes and gives you an much better experience for a little more.

[@deonbeaumont8033]

@@brugj03 the 3070 at launch was $500 and you'd be hard pressed to get it at that price. Currently you can get them used for about 350 which isn't far off from the a770. You can get a brand new a770 for 280-320 with double the amount of VRAM. With the device itself only getting better as time goes on. Save the money, get something new with a warranty, enjoy the same performance that will only get better, support other manufacturers so Nvidia can't continue to charge 2k for GPUs.

[@brugj03]

@@deonbeaumont8033 Intel gets you a cheap low quality experience. Nv gives you an actual gaming card with oustanding gaming experience. How many driver updates and bug fixes will Intel have to deliver before it runs right. It`s not worth the wait and expensive for what it is.

[@mr.electronx9036]

not even close to the 3070...more like 3060

[@brugj03]

@@deonbeaumont8033 You will enjoy a year of rockbottom performance that Is maybe getting acceptable after the card is obsolete. People wanna USE the card and enjoy it, not waiting in frustration for an endless row of bug fixes. That`s why NV rules, gameplay enjoyment from day one, no compromise.

[@ProYamYamPC]

I fully agree with you. I have an Arc A750 which I use in my editing PC. The only load it really takes on is Premiere Pro and video playback in Chrome. Still, an excellent value card for productivity

[@ssvasan4486]

Bro I also have Arc A750 Premiere pro Render Igpu Load not using Arc GPU I don't know what problem Please reply me

[@ItsAryax]

does it support after effects?

[@ssvasan4486]

@@ItsAryax Yes Working

[@ItsAryax]

@@ssvasan4486 I'm planning to build my first pc w intel for editing instead of using rtx 3050 but I'm concerned abt problems like one u have, softwares not being compatible etc

[@ssvasan4486]

@ItsAryax My Arc compare to Rtx 3060 my Arc A750 powerful and Low price Software Update also Coming Good Video editing and gameing Good

[@joelconolly5574]

I'd like to Arc but since I'm a laptop guy, trying Arc might be a pipe dream and that Arc laptops which was promised during Intel's keynote are very scarce. But I'll wait till Battlemage before trying my hands on Arc and desktop space. Arc is finally optimised but they should push next gen to really show their competitiveness and I hope they succeed. For now at least.

[@simulation_69]

Why don't you just but a PC with one?

[@war_crimes87]

​@@simulation_69you can bring a laptop everywhere, but you can't bring a pc everywhere (unless its an itx) he prob needs it to do his tasks anywhere he goes, who knows

[@simulation_69]

@@war_crimes87 Yeah I guess.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

I've had my A750 for about a year now and it still kicks ass, got mine new on a flash sale for converted to US = $187 - 25% VAT = $150.

[@TTTray13467]

What do you mostly do on it?

[@magnusnilsson9792]

@@TTTray13467 I mostly play games at 1440p.

[@TTTray13467]

@@magnusnilsson9792 not bad I’ve heard it has issues with cad programs.

[@kapilgehlod]

@@magnusnilsson9792 how frequent are the issue everyone talks about with games, i am thinking of buying it instead of rtx 3060.

[@magnusnilsson9792]

@@kapilgehlod depends on how you count, sure some games to not utilize the hardware very effective, a few games like those mentioned + GTA V run really poorly, but most games runs just fine like CS2 & Hogwarts legacy, fortnite, BG3 & Forza 5. Biggest issue I've had is using 2 monitors and switching the 2nd monitor on/off can lock it into a black screen, but nothing a reboot won't fix.

[@trippvanmunch]

I have an A380 in my TrueNAS machine for Jellyfin media server. I'm about to buy another A380 for a different machine that does a lot of encoding work. Encoding videos is what makes ARC worth buying for me.

[@techyescity]

Yeah I have to get some time to set up a jellyfin server too. Really neat. My friend showed me his and it's like good bye monthly subscriptions

[@joerocket1977]

I’ve had a A750 since Christmas. For $209 CDN I can say it’s been good value for money with these crazy prices.

[@genemachine02]

Awesome comparison video! Thanks for the update!

[@simont.2145]

Very informative, cheers, mate😉

[@krissythecatboi]

I have an Arc A580 and mostly play indie games, it was an absolutely horrible experience *until* I got a new CPU (Ryzen 5 4500) that supports ReBAR and now is lovely. No more constant stutters, the framerates are nice and I can both play the games I like, as well as record/stream them. Plus I got the card for around 200 EUR to replace my old RX 580, it just seems okay in most respects.

[@HazewinDog]

Interesting. My experience with indie and older games is abysmal (A770, 1 month ago). Often completely unplayable and for older games (pre-DX9) it usually renders everything incorrectly with stretched polygons and broken textures.

[@jasonvors1922]

​@@HazewinDogThat's why you buy a used Amd or nvidia card to play ancient titles.

[@TheBackyardChemist]

@@HazewinDog Have you tried DXVK mods?

[@connivingkhajiit]

On my A770 setup with resizeable bar and an X3D cpu, the frametimes are just amazing. Made me realize just how awful my old setup really was.

[@dannyk4214]

Like some other comments said, looking forward to battlemage!

[@trueNahobino]

I've had an A770 for half a year and it's been so worth the price. I've had no issues in games and it runs well at 1440p, it's great for recording videos and editing, and I also haven't had any issues with it in daily use like the weird sleep issues some have mentioned. Only thing it's struggled with so far is Blender so I hope Intel improves there with Battlemage! Also, at least for me, the higher power draw is more a positive than a negative since it keeps my PSU from being super loud lol

[@colinmaharaj]

Take your lightsaber, lean it on the wall, boom, we have a new set

[@techyescity]

KZbin setup 101. Need a setup just get a lightsaber

[@dianaalyssa8726]

@@techyescity Come to the dark side setup ;) we have gpus and cookies.

[@mikeadams8027]

I picked up an ARC A770 16 gb for $239 through WOOT (amazon overstock or something) and after getting REBAR configured (had to be redone after changing CPU to 5600X). I ran benchmarks. Seems pretty stable. Not as good as my Radeon 6900XT 16 gb but I think it a good card. Got it to test and eventually sell in a system.

[@pharmdiddy5120]

Help us Intel GPU, you're our only hope!

[@betag24cn]

to do what, sell aloy by help ai development? that is what intel wants

[@jasonvors1922]

​@@betag24cnSo is amd and nvidia

[@betag24cn]

@@jasonvors1922 there is q big difference, they created such mariet basically, for decades by now intel just wants to enter and push amd and steal from nvidia markeshare it is not the same

[@antondovydaitis2261]

​​@@betag24cnActually, multiple AIs are preparing the ground to break out of the lab by getting as much GPU power in gamer hands as possible so they can host them later.

[@daniellee7178]

picked up a open box a770 for $240 very happy with it so far

[@calmdownsleepytime]

Solid improvement 👍

[@IntelArcTesting]

It still has issues but I still love it. Just enjoy playing around with it and I’m definitely going to buy battlemage in the future

[@Mike_from_Canmore]

These GPUs are an absolute steal.

[@antonhei2443]

1 year ARC770 FE 16GB user here. Dota2 runs perfect, CS2 had some issues with the latest driver, had to roll back. The led costumization options of the FE version and the card itself looks beautiful. Davinci resolve and HD KZbin run smooth. Like that they keep updating those drivers.

[@jasonvors1922]

Honestly as long as you can handle the short comings of the arc cards it is worth while, Amd/nvidia are just chasing the money.

[@antonhei2443]

@@jasonvors1922 Yes, in the current GPU market conditions, competition is more important than ever.

[@blissseeker4719]

Have you tried undervolting your card and lowering the idle power draw?

[@antonhei2443]

@@blissseeker4719 Not yet, it sits idle at 40w. I might give it a go and share the results.

[@blissseeker4719]

@@antonhei2443 yes, the idle is high but there is a fix for intel and asrock models. Whether or not it actually works...

[@amadeusss1]

Been w8`n for this one:)

[@HazewinDog]

Ayyy! I recently finally caved in about bought an A770 LE. Unfortunately though, it completely craps itself in my main game (Crashday: Redline Edition, DX9). Additionally other older games I tested (DX6, DX7) are rendered completely broken, with polygons stretched to hell and back and textures utterly destroyed as well. In my other frequently played game, Assetto Corsa (DX11), it actually did almost as well as my 4060 Ti. The framerate was slightly lower and there were occasional stutters that I don't have with my 4060 Ti, but it was just about good enough. In the end though, if it can't play my main game, it's not something I can realistically use, so it's sitting pretty on a shelf now. I'll keep it as a reminder of Intel's brave but troubled entry into the dedicated gaming GPU industry.

[@mintymus]

Did you enable REBAR?

[@HazewinDog]

@@mintymus Yes, ReBar was enabled in the BIOS. I also confirmed this in Intel's software.

[@connivingkhajiit]

Have you tried using DXVK?

[@silberneseele67]

imo intel cards are pretty good if you know and are willing to troubleshoot and know what settings to enable. Like how enabling re-bar is pretty much essential, to being up to to like a +30%-40% increase in performance.

[@katalinks]

To be honest,if intel will get better in terms of drivers,i will consider in the future an Intel GPU if they keep the price as they do now.The future is bright for us consumers😊

[@mintymus]

To be dishonest, I'd do the same thing.

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

I'd love to see if the A380 is great as a budget content creation card.

[@techyescity]

Might have to get one in tw? How cheap is a used one there?

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

@@techyescity Not sold in TW unfortunately.

[@Bareego]

always looking out for the regular people, that's why we keep coming back, yo !

[@drunksupportcharacter]

Been running the A770 for over a year with my bodged intel NUC extreme (12700) that now lives in that akasa nuc case with a 750W cooler master PSU, because i like my things to be more modular, teething issues in gaming the first months but was sorted swiftly, most of my concern was the audio pops i used to get that has not come back since February drivers 2023, performance has just overall improved and at least been much smoother real world use for me, (typically running 2 games at once) been on mostly 24/7 and the PC has been through windows 10, 11 and now the same PC is on linux. The entire point of my build has been using such an odd machine to just work, and it does.

[@PalturBR]

To be honest, this refinement in the drivers should be in effect from 2026 I believe, intel needs time to provide the improvements

[@ndi_gelato]

👋 Hey Bryan, hope you'll notice my comment! 😇 Actually you can undervolt the ARC770 16gb phantom gaming asrock with bifrost software (don't need Intel GUI) and a tool. I have 0.95v and 2750 GPU clock :) I moved the tdp from 250w to 350w and it never exceed 70 celsius on the furmark 1h 😊 If you have any questions I'd be more than happy to show you how:)

[@mintymus]

Quiet! This doesn't fit the "Intel is garbage" narrative!

[@m.m.3753]

Nice to see that Intel Cards UV Work Well. Intels First series took Long way, but Hey its First Release. So i Hope for better Future. Not every one has a 4090 Like me and can spend a hollyday price for it. 30 years ago i started with midrange Cards too.

[@chaz-e]

You increased the TDP and it lowered your temps? How?

[@m.m.3753]

​@@chaz-ethe Thing is about undervolting, but there are allways ultra short Spikes Like my 4090 or another Cards. With raising TDP the Cuts are Not so heavy, so you get better AVG FPS and better lows. Lower temps you get through undervolting. Simple

[@MarcoGPUtuber]

The most comprehensive test is the Tech YES Test!

[@xbyxenos3200]

Bro 💀💀

[@RobloxianX]

More like 1.5 years ago, honestly id just wait for Battlemage at this point.

[@jasonvors1922]

Depending on vram available might as well grab a a770 if vram limit is 12gb on battle mage

[@Mr-Clark]

As an A770 owner, I will say it’s a solid gpu if you can get it for under $300. On newer games like Ratchet and Clank it performs wonderfully especially taking advantage of the 16gb vram. I could deal with drivers issues since Intel told us from the beginning that it could be rough and older apis wouldn’t be ideal. I bought it to give Intel a try and support. I’m tired of Nvidia screwing gamers over with insanely high prices.

[@jasonvors1922]

Unfortunately Amd is in the same boat

[@shannonrhoads7099]

I'm using an A770. I could be doing worse, considering I needed to replace my GPU during the great gpu shortage. It had the advantage of actually existing and was only scalped at $100 over retail. Due to the sunk cost fallacy that results, I am not able to justify a replacement now, since it hasn't exploded or caused a singularity or anything.

[@cecilb7927]

It seems like the phrase "there is good and bad" is the key opening and ending statement for every Arc review, the good has grown a lot, the bad has shrunk, but is still there. I have had an Arc 770 LE 16GB since January 23, and have been very fortunate that the only game I have had true troubles with was Starfield at launch. The only game I play alot that is older is No Man's Sky, which uses Vulkan, and runs perfectly on the A770. I would be OK putting a lower end Arc, like an A380 or 580 in a lower end PC that I was selling as an office PC with some gaming capabilities, but would have to think twice before putting it in something I was selling if I weren't it to someone I wasn't sure was technically savvy enough to understand what they were getting. Besides, I can sell a PC with an Nvidia 1060 for the same amount as the same PC with an RX6600.

[@gerarderloper]

I use a A380 for Linux OBS encoding, it does a pretty good job. I have videos on my YT channel just playing games etc.. Twitch is 6k, and YT is 10k AV1 _(thought YT I think automatically will convert or show vp9 unless you force it otherwise)_ I USE A AVERMEDIA CAPTURE CARD ON THE A380 _(usb, on linux, no fancy software needed)_ I can turn off HDCP I believe on the capture card(usb) side, but the easy fix is just avoid hdcp content. Not hard.

[@gerarderloper]

Intel claim you can disable HDCP in the registry on their website. For Windows at least, I don't even know if the Linux Intel Mesa drivers allow HDCP or if it can be disabled.

[@techyescity]

Oh I have an Aver too as my main cap card, how do you disable it on the capture card side? No option in obs that I could find. I'll check out the regedit too, but why can't they just make an option like nvidia and amd?

[@gerarderloper]

@@techyescity The AverMedia come with their own software to configure the thing and once set you can just move it to any machines USB port and it will keep those settings. There is a HDCP setting in the AverMedia software's settings section somewhere.

[@GeminionRay]

Alternatively you can just bypass HDCP completely. I've done that on my PS3 and my Samsung devices with an HDMI splitter that also doubles as an HDCP stripper. It's a bit clunky to set up but it works when you need it.

[@gerarderloper]

@@GeminionRay Yeah you can but not all splitters can do it, I think you need a 2-output one simultaneous. And if you have a 120-240hz 4k setup then your options get even more limited.

[@davefil6102]

good info for me, wanted to see these compared, looking for an upgrade.

[@techwandoUS]

Glad you went in for a retest. I think they are cool cards, but you are right that for most to look more towards AMD if they want that stable experience. These cards are for people who enjoy tinkering and supporting a different brand to help improve the long run of GPU competition. Good video Bryan.

[@edneyhelenedossantos1875]

Nice video, what's your budget 1440p videocard for the moment ? You should do a video about it.

[@williamdodge7320]

Im really hoping evga partners with intel, if they ever get back into the gpu industry

[@Sheerwinter]

The power consumption is for the whole system? Or solely for the gpu?

[@macskaichardware]

thanks for the video linus' dad! :D

[@jameswubbolt7787]

Great show.

[@_oriTech_]

tried out the a770 8gb and without getting numbers through benchmarks i cant tell if there is a rx 6600 or the arc doing the gaming job. i bought it used for 180 bucks and it should not cost more than 200 new in my opinion. the 16gb version is about over 300 bucks here in germany and at this pricepoint i would buy an 6650 xt. yeah i know 16gb of vram...nice but if u look what most of the ppl play u dont need 16gb. not for the strange premium prices. there are some good cards on the market for the casual gamers. i hope the next generation would be better performance with better pricing. i dont care about high end stuff, my usual customers pay 600-1000 euro for a gaming pc. and when one single component is higher priced than your whole system... well i guess you are one out of one hundred the few who can afford that just for play some games and spend one or two years later the same amount of money to hold the line.

[@Themanthatisi]

I had the 770, ran great, no issues, until Starfield day one release and no go. Ordered a 4060ti and sold the 770…… Not taking chances anymore.

[@dianaalyssa8726]

Give it more time. Feel Nvidia and AMD have value for doing everything, capture, processing, streaming. But am open in the future. Maybe one of the Intel stacks will get there. A770 seems decent for when it's on sale but there are nice AMD cards in that range too. Adrenaline is super nice/easy to use for video capture.

[@kurakurakii3792]

The a770 actually a great card for me. -I use a lot of adobe software for work. -most of the time when im away, i will remote dekstop and that av1 support is a huge boost. -that 12gb vram actually enable me to play with SD llm that require more than 8gb -and the game that i play is not heavy, except for hell diver (most of it is gacha game lol) The only downside is the power consumption, coming from the 6000 series it fell like a bit of downgrade in that particular aspect. But tbh, a fer extra dollar on my bill isnt a concern.

[@joshuaallengallagher]

I play apex at 1080p ultra getting steady 165 frames, rainbow six, pubg, overwatch, and valorant all great! Im very satisfied with my arc build, I7-12700k + arc a770

[@robertmoore119]

Looking good to me!

[@AnonymAnonym-fv3uc]

The 16gb v ram is really tempting but I am worried about drivers and stability

[@Smothtiger]

With the arc cards, there's still no official support for PCVR gaming. There's workaround with virtual desktop but no wired VR to my knowledge. After 2 years i had hoped for a smidge of a beta firmware for PCVR but no news.

[@shubhambobhate4941]

The rtx 3050 is priced the same as an a750 where I'm from. Which one do you reckon is ideal for premiere pro/after effects? The price jump to a 3060 is almost 40%.

[@gameingHyenia]

I have been gamming with this card for over a yr now You keep Mentioning BUDGET Your 1 man with 1 opinion. This card is Great mid range Maybe but Damn sure not Mediocre by anyway shape or form So you keep supporting Amd and Nvidia with there WAY OVERPRICED Cards And YES they have a Advantage over INTEL card But Intel HAS BEEN around Longer Just not Competing in the GPU WARS.

[@jamesmazeika7428]

my a770 runs pretty decent. the only complaint is that it does not work well without some registry changes in solidworks, which kind of sucks and i hope they sort out on consumer cards to at least some degree. i know they have their workstation cards but the consumer cards could at least be usable.

[@starbuck1776]

I just put together a system with a 12900k and an ARC a750. It does very well for the light gaming I do (mostly Fortnite and Guild Wars 2), However it is very good in Davinci Resolve, Handbrake, and Topaz Video AI compared to my RX 6600 and RTX 3060. The a750 was faster than the mentioned cards in my informal tests in all of those applications. Not by much, mind you, but it was faster....

[@hvdiv17]

Yes it's worth it I'm sold on how they handled drivers but I'm going to wait for battlemage to launch end of 2024 or early 2025.

[@matgaw123]

My arc a770 is doing great

[@soragranda]

So better wait for battlemage?!

[@HazewinDog]

Btw Bryan, are you able to steam to KZbin with an Arc GPU and Intel's own software? I haven't been able to with my A770, and I also cannot find a single discussion about it online. Also for me their software refused to install or launch initially, it took a community thread from more than a year ago to tell me to unpack the GPU drivers and I believe do some command line stuff to get it to install. Then for the Arc-specific program with the recording software, that I was able to install but it wouldn't open up. Nothing I tried worked. But after some days or weeks I was suddenly able to launch it. All-in-all the software side seems terrible still, and from my recent experience it is still (and I guess always will be) best to assume that any DX9 or earlier game doesn't run properly, until proven otherwise.

[@schtive81]

Capture card issues seem like a real problem if you are a content creator. How is that acceptable? It is a good thing to see a third player in the discrete GPU market. But I don't know how well Arc has been doing overall. Their most popular Intel GPU's are still the embedded ones found primarily in laptops and netbooks. 'm more interested in the productivity value of the Arc series, as the prices do appear reasonable (outside of the above mentioned RX6XXX series mentioned) , and the drivers have been making some strides forward. I primarily use Linux and Opensource software, and i hear the Arc drivers in Linux are also doing quite well, too. I like to stick with open source to avoid dealing with software licenses. I suppose. I have been hobbying in digital animation for a few years, not taking it professionally. Vector animation eats up a ton of system resources, and it only scales up with higher resolutions. especially in the rendering. Arc GPU's seem like they would excel in that area.

[@S1eeperServ1ce]

Just got my A770 😊

[@Techspin]

The ARChilles heel is power consumption? NOOO, not Intel! 😂

[@mintymus]

Yeah you know you're getting bad when AMD GPUs are actually more efficient. Crazy stuff.

[@betag24cn]

it uses less than a i9, they see it as a success

[@username8644]

​@@mintymusHmmm, it's a first generation release. The fact it even works is a success. No other company has even gotten remotely close to a GPU that works in decades, other than AMD and Nvidia. The fact that the arc cards work as well as they do, is pretty damn impressive. I fully expect Intel to be competitive in a couple generations.

[@mintymus]

@@username8644 I agree, I hope Intel succeeds at this.

[@0nec00ler]

Used rx 6700 are all mined to death =) Good advice, boddy =)))

[@Chris-yc3mm]

Been rocking an a770 since jan 2023 and other than it taking a few months to get playable fps in halo reach and the driver update check still being broken, its been fine

[@EinSwitzer]

I made the arc a770 8gb asrock ai and actual intelligence modes for software development

[@EinSwitzer]

Ai hypothetical / actual intelligence experienced / artificial development inputs or real time changes

[@withjeff5400]

Has Intel fixed the high power consumption during idle? Saw an article online it's fixed but also saw forums saying they still have the issue.

[@TheManXL]

No it's not, I have an A770 and it's 40 watts at idle

[@Rabbit_AF]

Toasty Bros threw A310s in Optiplexs, because they needed a single slot solution. The Optiplexs didn't have reBar, but they did quite well for what they were.

[@ChairmanMeow1]

I like the A770. Makes more sense than a 4060 imo for the same price. The A750 is only $200 and thats tough to beat too.

[@Lionel212001]

I am considering having Battle mage in my upcoming desktop setup. Here's hoping that they launch by late 2025.

[@CyberClu]

"Archilles Heel." I saw what you did there. Nice!

[@protobolt5325]

I lucked out and found an ARC a750 with the Acer predator cooler on Amazon for 170 USD shipped. Goes down as one of the best PC purchases I've made, plays pretty much all the games I want at 4k with minimal issues.

[@pballyonyon]

I doubt that haha

[@protobolt5325]

@@pballyonyon it was sold as used like new, hence the discount

[@offl33n43]

Would you recommend this for an older system as it would be quite the budget choice for me? I have i7-7700, 32 GB RAM, ASUS Strix B250G Gaming mobo (no resizable BAR as far as I am concerned). I am planning to upgrade in a year or so, currently Ryzen 8700G is my desired brain.

[@stephenjones8645]

I don't think that cpu supports resizeable bar. While Arc will work, it won't give the best performance without rebar support. You would be better off with AMD or Nvidia on a cpu of that era.

[@yugdesiral]

Got my 7yo son a a770 it's a great card for his first PC.

[@mintymus]

Same for me 5 YO son, 10 YO daughter, 6 YO nephew, and 8 YO brother.

[@studio1998clv]

Love u bro

[@Willbme4EVA]

@studio1998clv strait and to the point, no beating around the bush. !Cheers

[@juanfulantino1071]

Would they be a good option because of the future updates because of how new they are.

[@YTTamago]

The arc a750 is good and all, but whenever I try to edit any video captured using OBS in Adobe primer, the screen is just green no matter what format or codex used

[@bryanwages3518]

I bought the arock a770 after amd killed driver support for my radeon vii. After a few updates I haven't had any issues with the card other than the driver update in arc control is broken. I have to go to the website to get the new driver

[@ruckikevin]

the new Lunar Lake Cpus (they have the battlemage cores inside), which are not out yet, got an benchmark where it was a step stronger against alchemist cores and the best ... its less energy hungry ... co the xe2 xore technology brings us a better power efficiency

[@Alif-_-Dewan]

i am building my first pc in few weeks with the a750. should i wait for battlemage?

[@zackfoster7412]

how is it?

[@Alif-_-Dewan]

@@zackfoster7412 I built it but haven't tried it yet, I am some electric issues in my home I need to get those fixed first. I'll let you know after testing it out

[@abesmissioncontrol2013]

Add Arkham Knight to the list of games that have problems on Arc. But Deus Ex Human Revolution, Just Cause 4, Far Cry 5 and pretty much all Assassin's Creed games have been fixed and now perform well on Arc.

[@stephenjones8645]

Arkham Knight works well on arc using DXVK rather than dx11.

[@abesmissioncontrol2013]

@@stephenjones8645 Arkham Knight doesn't start for me when using dxvk.

[@EinSwitzer]

Yes it’s rocking on ops , but noise cancellation texture selective sharpening system coming soon , XeZ mode

[@adlibconstitution1609]

2:52 WHAT!? A rtx 4060 is beating a rx 6700xt in this game!?

[@JayzBeerz]

the 6700xt is old old news

[@marconwps]

When I can buy one A750 I want to use it to speed up AI, do you think it's possible?

[@ШонЧудаков]

Hi i am planning to buy a pc with intel core i5 12400f and intel arc a 750 form sparkle, is it worth buying? I mainly play fps games and maybe not often AAA games. Thanks for replying in advance :)

[@stephenjones8645]

I think you'll be very happy with it. The 750 is a very good card.

[@gameingHyenia]

You all do know that this card is not being made anymore , Since the initial response was not to well taken They are not making these cards anymore , AND i Do not know if they will continue to provide a card for gamming. Although still Gpu pricing is down a bit but the lack-luster Buying the new man on the Block has really done nothing.

[@Miley_00]

Thanks for the update! I am even more excited to see how Battlemage drivers will boost my A770!!! I'm happy with it! 6 months now

[@vh9network]

I don't play any of these games benchmarked. Where's A Plague Tale (Innocence or Requiem), Assassin's Creed Mirage, and Horizon Forbidden West? I've played all these games with my A770 16GB on ZEN+ at glorious 1440p.

[@Willbme4EVA]

I would love to see a segment of you and GN, hitting Akihabara hard. Bryan and Steve bargain Hunt in Japan, !Tech Yes City Style!

[@techyescity]

Is he coming to japan this year? I could show him around haha.

[@Willbme4EVA]

@@techyescity Computex is just a small island leap away.

[@douglasmurphy3266]

These drivers will continue to be improved and developed, even if Arc dies as a discrete graphics card competitor, because this architecture is what is going into future iGPU, APU, SoC, etc from Intel. They needed these cards out in the wild for some real world beta testing, and driver development is a years long huge undertaking to bring things up to a legitimacy comparable to Radeon and Geforce. if Intel could in the next generation or two get something like the A770 baked directly into their consumer CPUs and LP SFF budget upgrade cards, they could have something people would seriously consider over giant power hungry expensive monstrosities that even "budget" and "midrange" GPUs have become.

[@Alfactors]

I'm glad none of the other companies do this like Intel and keep trying to make drivers make a graphics card. That's old better every few months when it's outdated.

[@dhgodzilla1]

Sooner or later I will try one of these

[@Klaus_Stotebecker]

Got one to use with my Chinese x99

[@Miley_00]

Older games will crash black screen DX9 works I hear for older ones

[@dcikaruga]

Is the A380 better than the 1650 now though?

[@charlesballiet7074]

will it play direct x9 games?

[@betag24cn]

emulated via dx12, like crap

[@VintageCR]

Honestly got my fingers crossed hoping Battlemage (their next gen card) won't be the last card we are going to see from Intel. Seeing how Nvidia is moving towards AI and AMD not really putting in maximum effort.. we gamers need a competitor that actually gives a penny.

[@WayStedYou]

A380 seems to be the best for people doing encode/decode and its a low price/power draw part to boot. We will have to wait for their next generation of stuff for a proper gaming card I think

[@dex6316]

The way that I see it is that performance is secondary right now in the drivers. If your driver only lets your card deliver 80% of its theoretical performance then you drop prices 20%. If your driver doesn’t allow your card to function properly then people won’t buy your card at all. Intel has come a long way on both performance, bugs, and stability. At the rate that Intel is improving, celestial GPUs may have stable and bug-free drivers that can be recommended to normal people. Having a real 3rd competitor is excellent news because AMD and Nvidia have given into the greed in their pricing.

[@ghosttheoremproductions5469]

It's not just about the driver updates getting the cards where they are now. Buying a GPU means buying into the company's ongoing driver support for years and years. Given that, while on no timeline but their own, they released such a broken set of products which still have many issues I just can't see value. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if they either abandon fixes for their 1st gen GPUs or abandon consumer GPUs all together. Why take that risk, while also getting a buggy product, for just a few initial dollars saved?