Intel Raptor Lake (13th Gen): How to Lower Temperatures and Power Consumption

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Are you by any chance annoyed about the high temperatures and power consumption of Intel's 13th Gen Raptor Lake CPUs? No problem, there's an easy way to quickly and effectively make these CPUs run cooler and more efficient.
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[@Nicolas11x12English]

Many thanks go out to #Georgios over at #quippr for getting a hold on these CPUs for my review. #NotSponsored 🤗🤩 By the time this video goes live there surely are more videos out there discussing this topic. 😅 Still, I want to share my version too and maybe spread the word about what can be done to battle high temperatures and power draw on Raptor Lake. 🔥🤣

[@ChazmillsADLT]

I have looked high and low for the answer to high temps on my i7 14700k and this was the answer. Excellent, thanks so much. Dropped my MSI BIOS max wattage from 40?? Or something to 125 and tried my cinebench and got higher than my test without changes. So pleased. At 70 years old all I want I’d a good computer for some games and run my home. Thanks again

[@michaelthompson9798]

its interesting to see how 1-2 decades ago overclocking was the ‘thing’ to do …… in recent times (~3-5 years) the focus has switched heavily to undervolting, even before energy ⚡⚡costs we’re skyrocketing 🤯! I’ve been doing simple ‘quick n dirty’ undervolts for about 5 years now and seen decent and noticeable (in software / bios results only) reduction in system / component temps and power draw 💪🥳

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Indeed, crazy where all this lead us to! :D Nowadays there's quite a lot of efficiency to be gained with undervolting and overall system optimizations. :)

[@veo16]

what’s the quick and dirty route? just drop -0.1V or so from current voltage under load and call it a day?

[@AndyMutz]

seems like you are looking at the wrong voltage, Nic. I have learned that VID is the voltage that the CPU requests, it is NOT the actual voltage the mainboard applies (vcore).

[@sengir]

Thanks! I Was just banging my head for the 250W power consumption in my new 13600K. I set 181W top in BIOS and after undervolting to 1.220V (doing some stress tests now, with 1.20 crashes)

[@Nicolas11x12English]

You're welcome! :)

[@saint9487]

So what a point to buy 13600k? You did to him the same as 13500 on boost with max power limit.

[@sengir]

@@saint9487No K Intel were available at the moment. And then came out at higher prices 😂 in this crazy market. Also, read the specs. Not the same TDP nor clock speeds

[@saint9487]

@@sengir if 13600k will have 180w limit it will be same. 4.8 ilor 5.075 dont give match fps more give cash cpu bc he have more in 13600k. I n my country 13500 now have 400$ price.

[@sengir]

@@saint9487 In the video it is explained. According to Intel max TDP is 181W. At least with this board from factory I was getting 250W which was not acceptable

[@mrp00n]

MSI motherboards makes this very easy with an option called CPU Lite Load, default is level 9 and I just set mine to level 5, significant drops in power draw and temps without a reduction in performance, can go all the way down to level 1 if stable.

[@blindman8093]

do they have a MINi itx motherboard for this kind of option?

[@iang3902]

Yup this is the way just buy MSI set cpu lite mode lower and its like magic. I set mine to 2 now it tops out at 72c vs 92c stock and performance is exactly the same. Will never buy another brand due to this feature.

[@Nohan_Aryang]

is that all B660 chipset available?

[@Cheatman5]

@@iang3902 I can’t do this with cinebench. Lowest I can go is Mode 7 or it crashes cinebench.

[@sergeygusev7472]

@@Nohan_Aryang на b чипсетах, при изменении CPU Lite Load - снижаются и ограничения по току, что ведет к пониженной производительности. Я ставил LL7 и снижал напряжение adaptive+offset. В дополнение ставил ограничение на tdp на 200W

[@jaredbork2586]

First new build in years and my dumbass got an i9, great video thanks for the work!

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you, have fun with your new build! :)

[@MetroidRTX]

9:11 This is the symptom of not using up to date bios and ME firmware, my 13900KS isn't downclocking like that when undervolted. 0.1300-v doing 6ghz all core at 1.365v using V/F curve undervolt. As others have pointed out here, VID is what the CPU is requesting not actual voltage, you need to scroll down to voltage sections and find Vcore.

[@oktc68]

My 13600kf purchased August '23 in a MSI Z690 Edge DDR4 mobo doesn't run hot, i was expecting 90°C running Cinebench but it stabilised at 77°C. Tweaking the fan profile got it down further. Great productivity chip and gaming performance is good.

[@chameleoneel]

Asrock's Load Line Calibration is backwards compared to Asus. Higher LLC on Asrock boards actually increases Voltage droop. That's why the actual voltage was lower than what you enetered. Because you set the LLC higher-----which actually lowers voltage at load, on Asrock boards.

[@a_void]

You can even see that on diagram in the UEFI. I wonder how he missed that

[@stormtrooper5558]

Great video mate. There is an yt channel that has set the PL1 70 and PL2 70; without undervolt and found minimal drop in performance. But the tester had worked at other watts; and in other testings had also applied undervolting.

[@AbcDino843]

Interesting, all I had to do is reduce the cpu voltage by 40mV using Intel Extreme Tuning Utility (CPU voltage offset), and the temp under full load of my 13700K went down to around 87 degrees, from 97-100. No drop in performance, fully stable under extended Cinebench testing, no messing with the motherboard (default, out of the box settings).

[@dazealex]

@stormtrooper5558 Happen to have a link to it? The power draw is stupid high though

[@stormtrooper5558]

am pretty sure it is this one kzbin.info/www/bejne/fmWlnmONp5uCe7M @@dazealex

[@Markisha64]

You totaly dont undarstand what are you doing. Vid is voltage in tables, that CPU has for voltage/freq curve. Not voltage that is on CPU.

[@fatesteyneit2990]

would like to know more about this.. just finished my build today, and I'm looking on how to undervolt my cpu (on a asrock mobo).. please share any links cause this video is confusing af

[@overlordttvi2064]

Succes ! I Succefuly Fried my CPU ! Thanks Man helped alot !

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Wait... what did you do? O.O

[@overlordttvi2064]

@@Nicolas11x12English you know cooked it up? Fried? Burn it up xD

[@Xeonzs]

Great video, I was looking how to do this on my new Asus 790 mobo, the settings were a bit more confusing than what I had in my 500 series msi mobo, for now I just set a wattage limit for both short and long duration and a temperature limit.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you! :)

[@AbcDino843]

I haven't even touched the motherboard. I used Intel Extreme Tuning Utility to only adjust the CPU voltage offset by -0.040V. The temp on my 13700K went down by about ten degrees, to around 87C, no drop in performance and fully stable under extended full load. Motherboard is Gigabyte X790i (ITX) with all the default, out of the box, settings.

[@Milby91]

You can also reduce the CPU temp by installing an anti-bending buckle.

[@oktc68]

Er hate to burst your bubble but yes you can, I replaced the contraption that holds in the cpu with a Thermalright cpu frame, temps dropped but 5° - 7°C. See Gamers Nexus video for a in depth look at why this is the case.

[@jessefisher1809]

I'm hesitant to install one of those. I don't want to mess up the mounting pressure.

[@a120068020]

I have new settings which I am using for my i9-13900k and i9-14900k. I don’t like the uncertainty of undervolting so prefer working with power and clock limits. With these settings I got a couple of FPS BETTER on CP2077 and Forza Horizon Benchmark, went from 99th to 98th percentile on PC Mark Extended, passed the Time Spy Stress Test, Time Spy was within a whisker of the average for my hardware, Cinebench R23 finished between 37-38000, CPU-Z, Intel Diag tool and Prime95 was stable and < 90 degrees. MCE off, PL1 and PL2 limit to 225, limit P-core boost to 5.3 GHz and E-core boost to 4.0GHz, and use balanced power profile in Windows (although I do disable core parking to keep system highly responsive). Oh and just XMP on the RAM. I didn’t change LLC or voltage offset values. With these settings, you should have no stability issues, be able to run on an air cooler like the NH-D15 (what I use on my 3 i9 13th/14th gen systems) and will barely notice any performance changes in gaming or productivity.

[@a120068020]

Update: I have now set voltage offset at a modest -0.010v. I have disabled the C6&C7 C states and EIST. I have then increated max P core clock to 5.5GHz and E cores to 4.3GHz. Lastly I have locked AVX at 0 offset. I have tested on P95/CB R23 and CB R15. All great and in a mid 20 degree room, no workload exceeds 80c on package or cores. Happy Bunny!

[@jodymarty3179]

Awsome video

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you! :)

[@dherdy9205]

Great instructional , I was wondering why the vids where high , 13600kf around 66c turbo on speed step etc all the good things no park cores

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you! :)

[@robertwilliam5527]

5:00 to watch the undervolting for lower CPU temperatures

[@MarkVersion1]

Tnx for the video. I think options for AM5 is better

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Yes, fine-tuning AM5 CPUs is a little bit easier right now. :)

[@gus_abreu]

Also, setting 181W for the 13600K would reduce the CPU temperature?

[@sk1z-171]

I might be stupid but is cpu power limit throttling bad for the cpu in the long run I just can’t seem to get rid of it pl 1 and pl 2 125 and 253

[@Taku071090]

This seems like it might be an ASRock thing for the voltages. There might be some other setting forcing the CPU to run as close to the 1.365 V instead of applying the manual voltage. Should probably check into that so you can get lower voltages

[@Luison40]

I got a TFU z790 MoBo and I wasn’t able to undervolt i9 13900k cpu either.

[@Beall_]

I got a MSI Z690 Carbon and I didn’t have this options on the ASRock motherboard. I rather have ASRock motherboard over MSI or ASUS anyday. I just upgrade to a i7-13700KF and 4070. But I hate the motherboard which is MSI.

[@albey1816]

How are you working out your MAX PL2: Wattage?

[@walerybien8193]

Do i understand it correctly (i guess that 1.460 you put in BIOS got me confused)? You manually set the voltage (but only if the offset mode is limited) excactly the same as stock readout during the 1st benchmark run? And then go lower by small increments to keep the clocks readouts the same, also setting a load line level high enough not the got drops. Is that right? Sounds convincing and not that hard, but there are some threads around the internet that say it's complicated and that you need to fine-tune AC_LL and DC_LL correctly to do it, which is way more difficult, when you read it. What do you think?

[@freshcutbackup380]

👏

[@gus_abreu]

Reducing the voltage, will reduce the temperature of the CPU?

[@auntiepha8343]

👍I haven't watched the video yet. Very interested in this topic. Only time my 13700k temps get ridiculous is running cinebench. I fixed it with a minimal undervolt. Running 13700k, Z690 ASUS TUF D4 MoBo, 32GB DDR4 3200mhz, ASUS Ryuo 240mm AIO, ASUS TUF 3080 12GB, Enermax 850Watt D.F.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

Thank you! :)

[@auntiepha8343]

@@Nicolas11x12English Love the channel mister!

[@Nicolas11x12English]

@@auntiepha8343 Awww, so kind of you!

[@AbcDino843]

Same here, Intel's XTU software, just undervolted by 0.040V, dropped 10 degrees, no drop in performance and fully stable. Out of the box motherboard settings.

[@raincatchfire]

Would have liked to see you measure the wattage.

[@Nicolas11x12English]

I did and actually compared it to other models. :)

[@polhunter6511]

HWiNFO64 shows 1.286 volts for my 13500, but cpu-z at the same time shows 1.526 volts. my mobo is msi 760 meg tomahawk. what price should i consider ?

[@sidewinderr]

Anyone know where I could change this on an ASUS Z790 hero? Can’t seem to find it anywhere and don’t want to mess anything up at least the power limiting

[@toonnut1]

My 13900kf was the hardest to tune. You have to undervolt it if using an aio.

[@QwetzalcoatI]

Mind sharing your numbers for the undervolt result?

[@toonnut1]

@@QwetzalcoatI on my channel

[@XtianApi]

I prefer using xtu and testing at the same time. If it crashes, it resets automatically

[@blindman8093]

can asus b760i undervolt this cpu?

[@MarcyRock90]

13900k with noctua Nh-d15s 41º idle 70º in game

[@FishFish1995]

Well... I have undervolted and tested different voltages... My i5 13600K was at 100°C stock. No matter how little I lowered the voltage, there was a slight dip in performance. And there was always thermal throttling, never going below 100°C. Obviously the first thing to consider is if the cooling is adequate, right? Well, yeah... I have a bequiet cooler capable of 250W of cooling. Should be ok, no?... I have checked my mounting on the CPU and the paste application... Everything was in order... Unfortunately, although I know it's true that you can get better temps with undervolting, I must have gotten a shitty sample... My guess is either that the CPU or CPU isn't flat enough, or even worse that the die doesn't make good contact with the IHS (that's what the cover is called, right? 😅 ). I won't be trying to fix that cause I want my warranty, but unfortunately I can state that sometimes some people might just not be lucky... Having 40°C at idle and immediately skyrocketing at 100°C when stress testing is dum... But I guess that's what you get with intel lately... I just wonder if my intel choice is actually faster than the AMD I was considering... With the shitty sample and high temps I mean... I went with an intel CPU because it was supposed to be slightly faster. But is that really the case when constantly thermal throttling? I'm not so sure anymore...

[@des22059]

Same problem on msi motherboard with 13700k. Spent days tuning my friend's pc but no results. Either crashes from too low voltage or instant 100°. I put 90° limit temporary, but almost same thing happened to other guy with similar pc. I suspect AIO but I can't believe that even with some heat transfer thing attached to cpu it can jump 50 degrees back and forward

[@realoctavian]

never set voltages by hand as in this video, only undervolt with an offset, e.g. up to 100mV

[@lochlommond5013]

I'm sorry but there is a big mistake in this video. At 6:21, you asked to check the current CPU voltage and marked the value of the base VIDs. That's wrong, it's not the current voltage of the processor, it's the voltage that the processor requests from the voltage regulator. This is totally different from the vcore which is the actual monitored CPU voltage value that the CPU gets.

[@neolynxer]

Video starts at 2:30.

[@nivea878]

my 13600k is between 54 to 64 celsius (Stock bios, just xmp enabled) . i just play games. i dont mess with settings no time for that. i cool it with Noctua NH-U12A chromax

[@donglee6599]

Then why u In this channel ?

[@lawoei]

Only true for the higher-end series...

[@ravenstarfire8816]

Bro the 13700 is listed as PL: 65W

[@hrbt78]

was mir aufgefallen ist, das mein i7 13700k auf einem gigabyte z690 gaming x ddr4 booard bisschen schneller läuft (5,45) mit enhanced multicore bei 271w als mein jetziges asus prime z690-a was sich da moderat zeigt bei stock speed (5,3) und max 242w. ebenfalls enhanced multicore aktiviert und ohne limits. sollte es eigentllich nicht umgekehrt laufen? das asus board ist doch in punkt vrm deutlich besser aufgestellt. nichrt auszudenken, wenn gigabyte diese defaults auch beim z690 ds3h so belässt. danke für deine videos, hab schon viele stunden abschalten können und meist was mitgenommen. und wenn es einfach deine videos in englischer sprache schauen ist.

[@northking2317]

Can 760 I strix undervolt 13600k?

[@Mysinismikako]

Yes

[@chandu_yb7]

Bro. Answer please I build pc month back. And it's over heating. Config I7 13700k Rtx 3090 ( republished Card) Cooler master 360mm aio Cooler master td500 mesh case. Will playing gta v CPU reach 80. And come bench it's reaching 100. Is this normal or not ( Have 3 intech, 3 exhaust fans on top. No single exhaust fan in back side )

[@rsmith02]

Set lower wattage limits and start reducing voltage (vcore) until temperatures come down under control or it crashes (if it crashes, increase a bit).

[@papasmurf5598]

Intel Extreme Tuning Technology has solved this issue with its own Optimization Software that analyzes your system and gives you the best stable overclock. I have two 13900k Systems and both are Optimized to hit 6.0Ghz on 3 P Cores and the others on 5.7Ghz and the E Cores on 4. 5. Temps are in the upper 70s to mid 80s. I’m fine with that.

[@klausyap]

There is an easier way to undervolt Asrock board: CPU Vcore Compensation = Level 1 Cpu Core/Cache Voltage = Offset Mode, enter negative value to maximum -100 mV. Base Frequency Boost, this is PL1, set it to any other value than Auto to optimize it further There is reason why Asrock put vcore compensation and base frequency boost prominently in the bios, at the very top of the OC Tweaker section.

[@johnhughes9766]

U dont read v core off of vid are you crazy

[@polhunter6511]

HWiNFO64 's Core VIDs shows 1,280V, while CPU-Z shows 1,462V. Which should i consider ?

[@Agent47709]

This will void the warranty ?

[@cavitycreep]

How bout Solid State active cooling?