Intentional Disregard Part Two

[@mikemraz8569]

I’m 81 years old i designed and built and maintained rock crushing equipment for 50 years. There’s two kinds of people that keep you busy there’s the “ boy someone screwed that up “ and there’s. “ boy they got all the good out of that “ the someone’s and the they’s will keep you busy an other thing you can not fix anything you can only work on it when you do fix something you’ve just moved the weak point to a more expensive part. I’m also a machinist you’re a remarkable man i enjoy your videos

[@johnw.peterson4311]

You are right Keith , this damage from neglect is without excuse. End of story.

[@terrywitt5543]

Keith I can certainly appreciate ur channel and the way u repair things ! I started in a ship yard when I was 18 I worked the docks as a welder later engine block welder machinist I would get lucky and get called to the machine shop to weld up a coupling or key way and on a big lathe they would have a 30’ by 8” thick tail shaft and straighten it the way u do rose bud garden hose I seen things tore up and wondered if today maintenance or grease guns are thing of the past I know there are more than one way to skin a cat keep doing what ur doing sir your awesome

[@bostedtap8399]

New shop heater working well 😁. Great job for this time of the year in the northern hemisphere. Great work, thanks for sharing.

[@loydsa]

Brilliant display of torch skills Keith, as always thanks so much for posting this.

[@pyromedichd1]

Always nice to see a professional at work, better yet to see one working and teaching at the same time!

[@ls2005019227]

Hope all is well my friend. You have some of the best videos, due to your fantastic work and taking us along for the ride while clearly explaining what you're doing (& why). Thanks!

[@july8xx]

I still can’t believe the way customers will send a part to a shop and not clean or do minor prep. When I was sixteen (a long time ago) I worked in a shop part time as a shop hand prepping jobs, mostly cleaning items. The shop charged the same shop rate for my work as for what an experienced machinist would get and when a customer complained the boss would tell them “well you could just clean it before you sent it in and saved some money”.

[@gorillaau]

Excellent response from your boss. And I'll just add: Bill clean up at the higher rate as if it's too low, customers will just say "Jack can do it, I can't be stuffed doing it"

[@63256325N]

I don't see why anyone would question you methods, knowing the experience you have. Great approach, great job, as usual. Thanks for the video.

[@forrestaddy9644]

I see Amazon sells a Victor #2 bent cutting tip especially for flush cutting, dressing weld remnents, etc. I doctored mine so the oxy jet ran parallel to the surface to be saved with about 1/16" clearance. Saved a lot of grinding in awkward-to-reach places. In the early '70's, I re-flanged and re-cambered several swaybacked low-boy trailers using a bent tip with the same kerf widening weave you demonstrated. And heat shrank the webs back to the original camber with a big rosebud tip. But I was a slave to my gas supplier. When I quoted the job I failed to figure in enough oxy and acetylene. Besides cutting off the flanges and straightening, there was the preheat for the low-alloy flange material. Many trips to Siler's. Didn't make a nickel. The bent tip worked slick. I barely touched the edges of the webs. Small world we work in..

[@Ropetangler]

Would I be correct in guessing that your Yankee scarfing tip is the same as an Aussie gouging tip?

[@forrestaddy9644]

@@Ropetangler More than likely, but for what little gouging I've had to do, I prefered carbon arc. Amputating ruined structure, stuck bolts, and other flush cutting situation where heat, and flying slag aren't inhibiting factors, I always preferred my doctored flush cutting O/A tip. I eventually used that tip up. I was never able to make a replacement as satisfactory. Makes me wonder what I did right, back when. Scarfing here in the land where people talk funny refers to beveling an edge usually to an acute angle. Like a prep for a spelter brazed lap joint in old time coppersmithing. There's also scarfing where thinner plate butts to thicker and it's desirable for stress distribution to have a tapered transition. This kind of scarfing would be very difficult to do free-hand with any kind of a O/A torch. I'd have to use a track burner if machining the tapered scarf wasn't practical. Before anyone gets the notion I'm an old time fabricator, I'm not. But I've done some fancy work in most all the metal trades. I'm no fool: I was very smart about seeking expert advise when I needed it and followed it to a (usually) successful conclusion. Word to the strivers: never miss a chance to pump the brains of people wiser or of wider experience than you. You never know when some odd bit of normally unrelated information will save your bacon.

[@mranthonye]

Nice video. Love watching a grand master tackle these jobs. Looking forward to part 3

[@thompsonjerry3412]

A friend of mine always used a carbon arc torch to do this job.

[@Wjones450]

i can just picture this piece of machinery sitting off to the side of the shops building lot where they keep the equipment, and this part is off a machine that is considered the shops beater. Anyone that was caught greasing it or trying to make a repair was considered wasting their company's time and to "JUST RUN IT!" Time is money! I just love that mentality ...not, but in some respects i guess i get it from a money stand point. Grease is cheap, labor and material is expensive. Great videos Keith! I really respect your honor with the pledge in the beginning of your videos too.

[@royreynolds108]

@@joeylawn36111 I don't know where my cents character is but I have more or less heard of saving cents and costing dollars.

[@zahbus8315]

Always funny KZbin surfers can nitpick and come up with their own ideas on how to fix stuff and yet none of them have their own channel. Yet this man has his own business, his own channel and puts his own time into it on how he would fix these items. All for people to either learn from or be entertained by. This is his choice his channel his business and his time. Keith keep up the the great work for the people that enjoy your videos. I hate to sound like a downer I just get tired of people complaining about others or judging the decisions they make when they do nothing to help teach or give ideas on how to fix problems that occur in the machine shop business. With much respect cheers Keith.

[@georgepinder1329]

Well said I couldn’t agree more. Full marks Keith most of us do appreciate the time and effort you put it Thanks

[@donaldrenfroe8002]

george pinder 9

[@InverJaze]

Great Video Keith. Who else these days teaches you about oxy-acetylene cutting torch settings. The need for a spark shield is never usually talked about. Yet, anyone who has ever used a gas burner, understands how much you will be burnt by dripping molten metal; dropping on the floor next to you.

[@Ham68229]

Ran a bobcat skid steer for over 20 yrs. First thing I always did, besides check the fluids, was grease each and every grease fitting. While I did all that, I still checked over all those "hinge" pin points. Everyone at my former job used to give me a hard time because, I'd always raise and lower the boom arms, raise and lower the bucket. I was doing a multiple of things while I did that. Checked for any "sloppiness" and seeing how the machine was going to run for the day. Yes, sometimes those machines would operate a bit finicky at times, just had to know how it was going to operate for the day. If there's going to be a "blame game", it should always fall onto the operator. It's his/her responsibility to ensure that the maintenance was done and done proper. As a former operator, I had that option to refuse to operate that machine until it was fixed and fixed correctly. Keith, you're a true professional at what you do, this is why I enjoy your channel. Always learning something new from just watching and listening to what you're saying and pointing out. Cheers :)

[@1995jug]

Great torch work, where I used to work before retiring we used a cutting torch a lot nothing ever came off with a wrench.

[@jessehall8168]

The ol' liquid spanner is never the wrong size am I right?

[@bgcal50cal]

Nothing like a SMOKE WRENCH FOR STUBBORN PARTS!

[@NebukedNezzer]

I am to old and don't have a channel but. I sing along with the pledge of allegiance and having grown up on the farm in the 50s and 60s we took good care of our machinery. Merry Christmas to you and your family.

[@mjm7187]

Looking forward to next disregarded video. Merry Christmas to you Keith!

[@markcohen8061]

It is such a pleasure to watch a master craftsman. Thank you for your time, and Merry Christmas to you and yours.

[@tmacie2]

Good call on the dipper swing. I've got a 60's Case 450 crawler with a backhoe attachment. The swing cylinders are wallowed out and the bucket moves 6"-8" when everything is only 1/2 way extended. I don't use it to make money but its very annoying. I've got to pull them and rework them.

[@royreynolds108]

Not only annoying but you can't do precise work and possibly a safety issue.

[@aforman1951]

It never fails... every time I get a new piece of clothing I have a stain or hole almost immediately....

[@billdlv]

Nice torch work Keith.

[@davidhamilton7628]

Would love to see the grinding prep on the flame cut

[@AJR2208]

Hi Keith - I think that you nailed it with "A Decent Operator to know there's an issue". There is a hell of a lot more to it than sitting in a seat and pulling levers. Videos like this one (I hope) will help people to think more about whatever kind of machine or vehicle they are operating. [edited bit - Could you do an added video to teach people about the use of Gouging Nozzles please - I learnt the hard way cutting Limber Holes in steel boats but this job would have been a good example]. Thanks for sharing with us - Have a Safe and Merry Christmas.

[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very very professional work mr fenner

[@buckhorncortez]

I wouldn't be too quick to simply blame the equipment operator. Depending upon the organization using the equipment, there could be a number of people who ignored the problem. If it's a large organization, you can have maintenance people telling the operator to continue using the equipment, the owner telling the operator to use it, etc. After awhile, the operator figures, "If they don't care - I don't care." It certainly starts with the operator, but the entire organization is responsible for letting something get that bad by not having a preventive maintenance attitude and plan for the equipment.

[@jerrycoleman2610]

Keith, Great job on torching off the thanks for sharing.!.!.!.

[@brucetuckey7909]

good morning Keith, Good points about the arm chair quarter backs passing the buck. Looks like a good repair so far. I can't wait to see if the weld broke or the steel had failed. looks to me like the weld was cold when laid down. I seen a lot of the same thing in my shop for the last 35 years as well. Keep up with the good work and Merry Christmas.

[@stumccabe]

Thank Keith - interesting series. Merry Christmas.

[@jimfield3347]

I'd like to see the Machine in operation. Before and after.

[@MartsGarage]

Nice precision torch work there Keith. That's one skill I have yet to develop. Mart.

[@MaturePatriot]

A new mindset in certain industries in to let it run 'til failure. They think it saves money over regular/preventative maintenance in the long run. The same steam condensate pump was replace 4 times in the 10 years I worked in one building! The pumps were never greased, just ran them until they failed then replaced them. A set of lift station pumps were installed, and grease lines installed to above grade to eliminate the need to enter the confined space for maintenance. Never greased then finally replaced. At the end of one project we were required by the Government to send every piece of purchased equipment to disposal, not salvage or recycle. WE WASTE OUR WEALTH IN THIS NATION! Loving the machining, and welding, on this project to save a piece of equipment.

[@warrenjones744]

Intentional disregard is what keeps me in business. in fact I encourage it! :)

[@brosselot1]

I love the intro to your video. Just awesome.

[@ÁREAJ27]

Hola meu amigo,é sempre um prazer ver seus trabalhos!Sempre aqui aprendendo!

[@davesalzer3220]

Have you ever watched that Russian Bucket factory? There’s a kid on there with torch skills, mad skills. I sure don’t like to see and hear the pain in your heart. I hope time heals it.

[@MatthewRulla]

Good ol' Lev and Igor. Those guys build two buckets before lunch!!!! I can't understand anything they say but I sure love the work they produce.

[@347chas]

Dave, just love the factory, would love a tour of the place, spend a week there would be heaven & better than a holiday anywhere.

[@combatmedic1980]

Keith, I found the easiest way to clean the tips, is using the long tip cleaners from the inside out, and using the tool the squares and flattens the end.

[@theessexhunter1305]

As trained toolmaker know for the last 20 years mobile welding I see this a lot. Do you know what Keith I worked out a good while ago you cant save the world of plant operators...... If their coffee flask was connected to the grease gun things would last a lot longer. Had a guy snap a 6 feet ditching bucket trying to pull a oak stump as he was to lazy to change the bucket. cost the firm a big bill...not him but the firm. BTW the close cut beard suits you well.

[@neil1150]

Never could and never will. Fancy meeting you here 😉

[@JJ-jv1gu]

he needs to use more pipe dope

[@wulfmans]

Thank you for reciting the pledge.

[@tubehound8]

Thank you.

[@ScottandTera]

To bad you dont have a scarfing tip. Great video while eating breakfast

[@CompEdgeX2013]

Makes me remember when I had the ArcAir available...effective but loud and dirty. Now I do the same as you...;-)

[@patballman]

Keith, love that pledge at the beginning of your video's. Have be a fan of the work for a long time. My new shop is under construction in Freeport, Florida. Maybe we will meet someday.😎

[@EastCoastWoodworking]

Keith here in Florida the companies do not care about there equipment, they run there equipment till it breaks then they call a mechanic to fix it or a welding shop. We do not have skilled operators, when you pay a heavy equipment operator $12 bucks an hour nobody cares about the equipment they run. I watch operators use backhoes as battering rams beating the machine to death.The damage to equipment here would blow your mind its pitiful.I grew up in a construction family and we always did preventative maintenance and never beat our equipment.I tell the companies you need to do preventative maintenance on your equipment most laugh and say why waste the money its cheaper to fix it when its broke or go buy another machine.Not my mentality I prefer to take care of what I have pay a little at a time rather than a huge bill but hey that's me. As long as we have this mentality not to take care of equipment we will stay busy. Enjoy the videos, like the new look. Merry Christmas and have a Happy New Year hopefully 2020 will be a much better year.

[@manfredschmalbach9023]

$12 bucks an hour gets You twelve bucks worth of work an hour.

[@shawnhuk]

I’d love a bit more “torch teach”. It’s hard to see the flame well on video. My knowledge of a well balanced neutral flame for cutting might be lacking a bit. I might be adding too much oxygen without the trigger depressed, I’m not sure. It’s difficult to get seat time for flame cutting. Both metal and fuel are pretty spendy. Not to mention super risky and messy in a small garage/shop.

[@thaneirwin4688]

Ok so heres the basics. Basically turn the Acetlyene up until you see the flame seperate from the tip. Just before that point is where you want that set. The oxy turn that up until the white portion is about 5-10mm from the end of the tip. Then hit the trigger for cutting and adjust it up until that is also now 5-10mm from the end. And you are good to go. Different tips will need different settings on the regulators and for some tip brands is actually engraved on the tip itself. 100kpa on Act and 200-700kpa on the Oxy for anything 10-100mm thick scaling lineally works fairly well.

[@hmw-ms3tx]

Hello Keith. I've seen the fault lie on both sides. I started working at my dad's shop (trucking and heavy equipment) when I was 12. Preventative maintenance (especially greasing) was like a religion there. He made sure everyone had a grease gun and access to grease. Not greasing a machine would result in termination. Needless to say we replaced very few pins and bushings. I have worked at other places where the owners would not supply grease guns or grease to operators. I guess they expected the employee to supply the grease and grease guns. In those cases the owner gets what he deserves. I live in the best of both worlds. I like to see machines properly looked after (it makes me feel good to see that). On the other hand when they don't look after them it creates interesting work for my shop. I can't lose. Ken

[@royreynolds108]

Sounds like your dad was a very smart man and you for following him.

[@kevindavis6042]

I agree with you This shows a total lack of maintenance and now not only are they paying you for the repair work they are also losing money for a machine that is not serviceable Absolutely unacceptable

[@RagsdaleCreek]

Great job so Keith. 👍

[@dankolar6066]

I remember a story about the welders at a local railway car shop. Every three months, the railroad allowed them to buy a new pair of coveralls. Which they did. Every week, however, the welders applied yet another layer of duct tape on their coveralls - because, although the railroad wouldn't buy more coveralls, it would buy more duct tape.

[@SteveSummers]

"I've progressed in age"😁. That's a good thing considering the alternative. Flannel lined pants sounds nice this time of year. Love the videos Keith

[@bakerpatrick6842]

Pro tip : watch series at instaflixxer. Me and my gf have been using it for watching loads of movies lately.

[@ezequielgordon9053]

@Baker Patrick yup, I've been using instaflixxer for since november myself =)

[@hooter7003]

Excellent

[@donaldnaymon3270]

Nice work. Thank you

[@user990077]

I wonder if one of those new LENOX carbide sawsall blades could of cut the ears off also.

[@outsidescrewball]

Good friend of mine while using a cutting torch the slag burnt thru the hose and set the back leg part of his coveralls on fire....very bad burn on the back of his leg....

[@carlpenney901]

You should invest in a gouger it is easier to use and you gouge the weld it is a lot cheaper and a lot faster. I think you all ready know this seeing you worked on the docks.Merry Christmas and a happy New Year. Love your videos.

[@josephwilson6651]

I was thinking perhaps a video on a P.P.D. welders articulated chaps made of Aluminum segmented like jousting armor

[@stephengile530]

Keith, you need to get a couple of scarfing tips for your torch. Makes cutting off parts much easier.

[@peterwill3699]

Hi Keith,sometime its the only machine you have that big and you need it every day.And when it brakes then you fix it.We call it run to fail.

[@peterfloro7713]

Hi Keith, Thanks for your interesting and informative videos. Just wanted to know if you think that maybe a "gouging " tip on your plasma cutter may have done a quicker and cleaner job on that piece?

[@curtisvonepp4335]

Keith if you had to remove lot's of structial part's i use carbon air arc of course that's a out side job and you must use ear protection that's a must .🎄🎅 Have a wonderful Christmas and New year.

[@CrimeVid]

RE the maintenance thing, several jobs I have worked on the watchword has been production, production, this usually means you run your machinery until it pops, hopefully when it does, the parts have been ordered and received and it can be done straight away. Many times I have babied a machine till the weekend maintainence day. Often you have to run a sick machine because if you stop everyone else has to stop !

[@M3chanic4life]

You are right it is a team responsibly for preventive maintenance. Keeping things greases lubed etc and report anything that is wearing out or broke down...

[@mikenixon9164]

Good video. Merry Christmas.

[@jimad]

Great video! I learned a lot. Totally inspirational!

[@theoldman8877]

In the yard that I worked the rule was. No phone, no cameras, no standing around. So I don't have any thing to show from my working years. It is a shame lots of great memories .

[@MrPandale]

I observed on your cleanup cut, you held the torch head around the curve and angled the tip slightly down sweeping. That let you cut closer. I did not notice anybody else commenting on that. Been there, done that.

[@gregworkshop5713]

hi nice work and Good points

[@kokodin5895]

i kind of am infrequent viewer, but i can see new haircut, shotren beard, no cap , some evolution keep it up, you look great

[@jimbeaver3426]

Are you certain that's a recent video or one from his archive when he was a younger buck?

[@Gronicle1]

Mr. Fenner did you ever do a video to describe where you got your training and experience?

[@shawnhuk]

What size bottles do you have, Keith? That was a good deal of cutting. Lots of oxygen flowing. How often do you exchange?

[@KeithFenner]

Large set and I use up the set in a month or two between exchanges. ;{)

[@peterwill3699]

I just filled my large set last spring and i payed 350.00$ for oxygen and acetylene,the acetylene was filled in Canada.

[@robm9860]

You’ll want to weld/tack a spreader bar across the top of those to keep them aligned and put a spreader bar between all the bosses, that will also help to keep everything on the nuts. You may have to use a porta-power to get the spreader bar out from in between the ears/bosses... Good luck n lookin good. Ps. What happened to the beard...?

[@KeithFenner]

I cleared the face to match life change. ;{)

[@rpatrick2]

Miller makes reading glasses inserts for their masks. I don't know what happened but the writing at the end of cartridges and on the sockets started being harder to read.

[@johnwarkentinnikiskialaska8364]

Another great start The pledge of allegiance🇺🇸

[@johnmcmickle5685]

I realize this is a little late but did yo consider using a gouge tip on the torch when cutting the ears off. If you could go outside you can cut the welds and reduce risk of cutting into the base piece.

[@bombardier3qtrlbpsi]

Curiosity Keith what did you set your oxygen & acetylene gauges at.

[@KeithFenner]

12 and 25, plus and minus some. ;{)

[@dallasdavis3246]

@@KeithFenner way off 12 is way too much acetylene acetylene should be about 8 and oxygen for one in plate should be 35 to 40

[@Blazer02LS]

It may be needed to get proper flow with the length of hose and the very restrictive spark arrester setup ?

[@weldweld5629]

You should keep a rivet/flush cutting tip on hand if you don’t already have one nice and close with one pass. I know it would be too messy in the shop but if it was easier to handle it would be nice just to arc air it off.

[@dougrundell947]

Keith, Wheres your scarfing tip?

[@honeycuttracing]

Nice torch work!!!

[@lesbender236]

Did you or the customer consider adding brackets for a second cylinder to even out the forces on the assembly?

[@KeithFenner]

Might not of been in the budget. ;{)

[@Blazer02LS]

May not be possible either. That looks like a JCB part, they only have a single offset boom on their small skid steers. No place on the left side for a cylinder.

[@johngordon4425]

Great (from UK). It must be very early for you!

[@jefferdman5921]

Nice video Keith! I to have the need for progressives, have to say you make a pretty straight cut. I have not seen welding gloves like yours at my local welding shop. What brand are they?

[@harrisonkatzz7090]

I have heard of gouge rod how do they work?

[@royreynolds108]

If you are talking about air-arcing, then use a welding machine with high amps, start an arc and blast with air from the handle to blow the molten metal away. Works real slick. It is the reverse of welding-joining two pieces together only you melt the metal and blow it away.

[@princetikki]

Anyone know why Keith used the torch instead of the plasma cutter to remove the brackets?

[@candicebeebe6688]

I've got a stupid stuff cutoff line too. Most of the people in my life just zoom right under that line.

[@billoxley5315]

The ones that run them usually cant fix them. Not universal in that statement, but common. And they don't realize what it takes to repair this kind of damage. I have repaired many in 40 yrs.Air arc works great for this type of job,but not all have one.Great job by the way!

[@ruperthartop7202]

Awesome Keith

[@toni1907]

Once you had the bulk cut off did you think about using a gouging tip at all would have made cleaning up with a gri der a lot easier after

[@cannon440]

Would an offset torch tip been easer to cut without damaging the body of the part, or are they difficult to control?

[@glennmoreland6457]

Keith... It's exactly the same here in the UK.... They don't give a shyte don't these operators... They'll just keep on going til something drops off...🇬🇧👍

[@davidtyndall9604]

Keith, do you have a scarfing tip?

[@jmew1922]

Have you tried to gouge the welds with your plasma

[@michaelogden5958]

A Fenner vid with coffee. Mighty fine!

[@juggernautxtr]

remember watching my grandpa with the torch, he could cut the weld(one shot) with out touching the base material, still trying to figure out how he did that.

[@HolzMichel]

say Keith, why is it you used this straight tip on the torch as opposed to a scarfing tip? would you not be able to get a smidge closer to the parent material that way?

[@josdiepenbeek469]

I understand your plan. What i don't comprehend is: the plasma cutter cuts the outline of the "ears" flawless, why can't it cut a pilot hole in the same plate (if ever necessary)? Anyway Keith ... thanks for the videos and happy Holidays.

[@royreynolds108]

Because the size Kieth has does not have enough power to burn a hole or pierce that thick of material. I would be willing to surmise the tip he was using would have a hard time piercing that thickness material as he started on the edge.

[@josdiepenbeek469]

He started from the edge, because the machine works at its limits. Sounds plausible. That makes piercing possible, starting from a drilled hole. Thank you.

[@hooter7003]

I’m on it 👍😎

[@davesalzer3220]

Ever use a scarfing tip?

[@KeithFenner]

Yes I have and just didn't have one at the second of need. ;{)

[@davesalzer3220]

I thought about air arc too but that’s a giant mess inside a shop like that.

[@catsupchutney]

Flannel lined jeans! Luxury.

[@Darryl603]

Hi Keith, why is a torch better than the plasma cutter for this job? Thanks and Happy Holidays