Interview: On the Parthian Empire w/ Dr. Nikolaus Overtoom

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The Hellenistic Age History Podcast

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@jeffmarlatt6538
@jeffmarlatt6538 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed listening to this man speak on the Parthians.
@transeditor
@transeditor 3 жыл бұрын
Great research and very informative. Great job Dr. Overtoom. I’m an Iranian American and interested in history. One thing that I was hoping to hear was the origin of the Parthians. It wasn’t mentioned. As you know Iran Nd Iranian nations encompass many, I guess I can call sub-nations. In Farsi we call them ghom, which means another tribe or branch of family. Sub-nations names that you might be familiar with are Kurds, Baluch, Guilaki, Kermani, and Lors, all of which currently live in Iran and all are originally Aryan. Another group or sub-nation that you might have heard of is Saka. Salas were also Aryan and lived in today’s Central Asia but to us, the Iranians, Central Asia was Iran back then. It was Sakas who killed Cyrus the great. Sakas lived in northern Turkamanestan and east of the Caspian Sea before and after the Parthians. My question is whether you researched to see if Parthians were also Aryan and part of the bigger Iranian family? In elementary and high school we studied the Parthians briefly and I was always under impression that Parthians were another Iranian family/group like Achaemenid, Sasanid, etc. we did not and still do not considered them outsiders, some nomads from Central Asia. Achaemenids were also nomad people. Anyway I thank you again for the great research.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
Are of modern day Uzbekistan and turkstan were Iranian before becoming turk
@transeditor
@transeditor 2 жыл бұрын
@@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl as far as I know, the answer to your question is yes. Turk tribes moved to Central Asia around 700 years ago and then kept going to today’s country of Turkey.
@kuman0110
@kuman0110 2 жыл бұрын
yes, Parthians were also iranian people :)
@dariuschmieliauskas
@dariuschmieliauskas 3 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and useful. Thank you!
@ІлляВетров-й2д
@ІлляВетров-й2д Жыл бұрын
Now that's a great interview.
@raghavarvoltore6517
@raghavarvoltore6517 4 жыл бұрын
Lovely. Thank You.
@mishkosimonovski23
@mishkosimonovski23 2 жыл бұрын
Sweet!
@bongoseropersa5240
@bongoseropersa5240 2 жыл бұрын
I hate how classic studies have a seperate category for egypt, greece and rome, then they lumpen the whole middle east altogether, "Middle east" is a huge region , mesopotamia is only a small part of, Theres the levant, anatolia, caucasia, arabian peninsula, iranian plateau, transoxiana, modern day afghanistan and pakistan, The implied homogeneity is very frustrating. Ethnically, linguistically and religiously hittites had very little to do with babylonians, and babylonians had little to do with persians, they all came into contact with eachother but lets be more rigorous about this. I prefer the term parthian when talking about the civilization during the reign at least that on the iranian plateau, We can use arsacids refer to the dynasty This being said, i am grateful for this professor Overtooms informative presentation and greatly researched book. P.s there was nothing unfortunate about crassus defeat, it was well deserved
@hisholiness4537
@hisholiness4537 2 жыл бұрын
That's because the west/romans were the bad guys in these stories.
@maxnetirtimon4121
@maxnetirtimon4121 4 жыл бұрын
it was really good but I want to say it would be better if you interview an Iranian historian like Dr.Touraj Daryaee or Parvaneh Pourshariati. as you know most of the Ancient Iranian history written down by other accounts especially Greek and Romans it would be nice if we could hear their stories from their perspective some times.
@MrAwrsomeness
@MrAwrsomeness 2 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately Iranian historians and academics are to biased
@maxnetirtimon4121
@maxnetirtimon4121 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAwrsomeness oh and western historians aren't? you're kidding, right?
@MrAwrsomeness
@MrAwrsomeness 2 жыл бұрын
@@maxnetirtimon4121 not to the absurd degree of Eastern ones, I've seen apparent scholars act and say more biased things than middle Eastern keyboard nationalists
@maxnetirtimon4121
@maxnetirtimon4121 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAwrsomeness than you're not seen any Lecter's of the people like John R Hale or such. they strongly believe greeks were the only representatives of true civilization in ancient times and also when it comes to ancient battles, between greek and ANY ONE ELS they provide strange and highly exaggerated numbers And when I listened to some of their lectures about Parthians It seemed that they were very angry with the Parthians and And they criticized them for destroying the Seleucid Empire I remember that one of them in his Lecter(not John R Hale, some other guy) included the Parthian Empire in the list of one hundred barbarian empires along with the Mongols!!!!!!!!!!
@maxnetirtimon4121
@maxnetirtimon4121 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrAwrsomeness more absurd than putting the Parthians in the same category as the Mongols? What eastern scholar says things like oh there is no difference between the Roman empire and Germanic tribes?!
@anotheryoutubechannel4809
@anotheryoutubechannel4809 7 ай бұрын
So the Greeks and Romans 'were despicable', what about the Parthians? Love listening to current age historians that sanctimoniously judge history thru a modern lens.
@afshinbiria3024
@afshinbiria3024 4 жыл бұрын
Much better material and research out there about the parthian Empire that ruled nearly 500 years
@1saxonwolf
@1saxonwolf 2 жыл бұрын
Please list some references. Thanks.
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl
@MohamedRamadan-qi4hl 2 жыл бұрын
@@1saxonwolf they didn't even rule for 300 years
@brightburnedits4278
@brightburnedits4278 2 жыл бұрын
Great iranic empire
@EdgarStyles1234
@EdgarStyles1234 Жыл бұрын
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