INTJs, Skill Is Not What's Holding You Back! | CS Joseph Responds

[@Scarecrow1410]

When it comes to fear of uncertainty, I basically used the stereotypical INTJ nihilism to my advantage. Even if I fail it doesn’t really matter 🤷‍♂️. Not that I recommend that to others, it just worked for me.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

This is true.

[@JungINFJ]

I agree as an infj also. It really is the truth anyways, most things just dont matter, we over value their importance, take self too seriously etc all counter productive to an actually good performance anyways. Causes hesitation and delay rather than fluidity.

[@CSJoseph]

Fantastic!

[@ChickVicious237]

If I can get myself into that mindset, it really helps in moments of high anxiety

[@Elaesbe]

Hey I like that, good call.

[@feliciaspeaks8663]

As an INTJ my greatest skill is horses and mastering training them and working with them. Got my degree studying horses. In “get the guy” it’s a guidebook for INTJ women to be more like an ESFP. ESFPs are present af and focus on a journey. We need to do just focus meeting ppl and networking that is how we can build social skills and master Fe trickster. To INTJ women who think they can’t do it having kids and managing their businesses or career… you can do anything you put your mind into it you are built to do it all.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

Data science can deffo make you better at improving performance of horses.

[@feliciaspeaks8663]

@@qasimimtiaz9668 I didn’t study data science but I do work as analyst so possibly

[@sylviaowega3839]

It is true that most men do prefer ESFP women over INTJ, but that is mainly because the latter a very intelligent and brilliant; and most men do not women whom are more intelligent then they are, and tend to be resentful of women who make more than they do. As a female INTP, I only desire to be myself and not anyone else

[@sylviaowega3839]

Now believe me, as much as the INTJ lacks social skills, which they do of course, they are not as bad as the INTP, as being one myself.

[@feliciaspeaks8663]

@@JessicaPawlitzki no problem! We just got to let go of certainty.

[@hamza5106]

Listening to CS Joesph is like taking a cold shower, shocking at first but ultimately worth it

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

So many INTJ videos, they must benefit from your videos, because you're their shadow type, strengthening their ENTP shadow.

[@Wajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

Everytime I watch you, I feel like I am getting scolded for something but I have no idea what it is. Lol

[@MeryemSparks]

Lmao. He definitely was hurt by some INTJs. He's always like, " INTJs are awesome, and I hate you guys." "INTJs can do anything, but why are you like this?" "you're always on top of things but I don't like you" I hate you, I like you.....😂😂😂😂

[@stivii5322]

My husband is an INTJ for sure....but he's always been lazy in school, used to always fall asleep in class. In college he wasn't very driven to finish college, he rather just work and become independent from his family. He hates people that always talk about their degrees, to him they are snobby. WHAT DOES THIS MEAN!?

[@thes7450]

He's just projecting and there's a bit of envy there from his shadow.

[@ChickVicious237]

Like the previous comment said, the things we complain about tend to point us toward our own insecurities. Also, INTJs bring up credentials to try and convince people that they are worth listening to, so if the bragging he hears about degrees and certifications is based on simply trying to win social points, then I could see where he genuinely isn't in agreement with how they present their achievements.

[@theblackKatKuro]

I'm an INTJ, I did well with studies as a child but as I grew up I started realizing that the education system isn't upto what it should be. I started feeling let down by my teachers who wouldn't bother to answer my question bc they weren't textbook questions or what i needed to study. It all made me lose my drive to study, my grades went down and adults around me started feeling that I wasn't living upto their expectations. I still managed to qualify engg entrance exam on national scale without studying for it in one go. I went into engg, but same story, felt let down, lost my drive. By the time I was in the last year, was knee deep into depression. But still managed to qualify national level masters entrance exam again without studying in one go. Only, this time I didn't pursue it. I do envy people with credentials but I also know practical knowledge is more important. Still though, can't change my career and pursue what I want bc I feel unqualified as I have no degree to support my claim that I can do it despite not knowing much about it. Your husband might say he doesn't like people who talk about degrees but its more of that he can't talk about his own. You see, I didn't like engg, I knew it instinctively but I knew I could do it if I put my mind to it so I got that degree bc college degree is a must.

[@kimberlydonaldson4904]

I have had multiple career changes. All were great learning experiences. My current career chapter is built on the experiences I had before. It's pretty awesome. Nothing is wasted. Looking forward to the next chapter.

[@prathamtitare5518]

If you want to learn from career perspective Finance is literally a NTJ career. I literally see NTJ everywhere in my workplace.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

Too overrated 🤣

[@TokyoTaisu]

Yep, moved into a bit more finance related field, coming from IT and it's an NTJ fest.

[@kl9043]

This is what I needed to hear in my life right now. Thanks cs Joseph. Been lurking your channel every blue moon since I was a kid and I'm now 24 and going through some extreme career dissatisfaction and relationship paralysis (the certainty thing you touched on preventing me from just going for someone who's CLEARLY interested). You're right as always. I'll read that book tomorrow on social skills and also start game planning how to get the f out of this toxic company I'm in. Once I clean out my finances and cut out a million monthly payment things I'll try and support you.

[@Dripping-Liquidity]

Although I did not get along with my ENTJ old school father as a child, I’m so glad he raised me the way he did. I believe it gave me a huge advantage as an INTJ

[@ILOVEMEW10]

I’m an ISFJ. I always watch other personalities, rarely mine.

[@VNaavi]

I think i needed this scolding.

[@pramandrapanday464]

True I am an intj and mastering skills Come easy and it all about the journey and not the outcome. You get so lost in the skill that there is no such thing as time.and once its over you can go on to Another skill

[@minusstage3]

Most importantly, is that one is so intrigued to find out, exactly how the skill can be used to it's maximum potential. Otherwise, the passion may just subside and it becomes practice once again, without it being a way of life.

[@coolbreez]

You are right about forgetting the unused skills. But i have also experienced that if I need to revive a skill, I can do it easily too.

[@devinbrines]

Thanks for making these, Chase. Stoked to listen to this. This inferior Se stuff is what INTJ's (myself included) need to hear. The one about INTJ's and appearance caught my attention too

[@jonjuarez8412]

1 minute in this guy is so right. I don't ever watch other type videos even though I know it would help me a lot.

[@sylviaowega3839]

That is exactly my INTJ hubby, he constantly, but constantly want to do everything as quickly as possible and as equally as efficient. I as an INTP, am no where near as rushed, albeit efficiency is something I highly prize.

[@melissawalker4093]

I have never been to college and have always loved art. There was one thing that I always was fascinated with and that was cake decorating. I started doing it at home and decided to take a chance and got a career doing it. It's not the best paying job but I love seeing the smiles on kids faces when they get their cakes. The best thing is the ability to make all my kids cakes. I don't believe that you can master cake decorating because it is a field that is ever changing and new things come out all of the time. It's hard stressful and I love it!

[@PA007]

Anyone can be good at something as long as you practise. Simple formula : Research and practise and keep improving

[@Qualcoosadimisterioso]

No, not exactly. There are natural limits, intelligence and abstract skills limits.

[@annl.5512]

I was thinking the same before found out about mbti then I realized that only applies to NTS. But maybe I'm wrong who knows.

[@PA007]

You are just making excuses

[@Qualcoosadimisterioso]

@@PA007 or speaking facts.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

I agree. While some may succeed through raw talent, most professionals at anything are where they are through disciplined practice.

[@silvanaleverrier]

Lovely day to nag at the INTJ’S

[@tiyahyisrael3277]

I think you mean *motivate

[@stephen_101]

He does it well 👍

[@ChickVicious237]

In high school I taught piano and had been up for a scholarship in music (never pursued it, went to a communuty college and dropped out) and I was shocked after 10 years never touching a piano that I could barely play chopsticks. Embarrassing attempt at showing off to a new acquaintance.

[@Wajiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii]

I am a hardcore optimistic nihilist. Good news: nothing lasts forever. Bad news: nothing lasts forever.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

For data science, technical skills don’t matter that much. Domain knowledge matter the most.

[@Moodboard39]

hmm

[@Rose-jo8zb]

I'm an INTJ, and this guy's insights & advice is ridiculously accurate and good.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

I think issue with intjs is not uncertainty, Is just big expectations from others.

[@TokyoTaisu]

both?

[@CSJoseph]

Stop projecting.

[@pietart3596]

You're halfway there. It's big expectations for themselves, immature Te parent just ends up believing other's expect the things they actually want for themselves.

[@mossphlox2094]

Wow C.S. Joseph recommending Matthew Hussey to INTJ women is 🙌 Been watching him a lot even as INTJ too :) Helps a TON.

[@Ben-d7t8o]

What about machine learning and ai, then going on to be a consultant so the INTJ doesnt have to work a job?

[@khristinalo7618]

True. Watching INTJ videos only. 🤷🏼‍♀️ can’t help it. Is it only me but it looks like C.S. Joseph sounds really butthurted about INTJs ?! 😂

[@CSJoseph]

If you bothered to watch vids about any other type you would see that I am “butthurt” about every type. Get out.

[@khristinalo7618]

Being so negative for no reason. Just saying my opinion. Always liked your content but it doesn’t mean that you can be rude.

[@fadesola2002]

His ex...

[@00Klingon]

I know an incredibly morose INTJ woman who constantly talks about her increasing list of certifications and degrees and complains that she's going nowhere and not being recognized by her company for all this effort she's put in to getting these certifications. It's really sad and annoying yet somehow, she hasn't learned that promotions aren't automatic just because you get a cert. She needs to first learn to apply these skills in a way that's valuable to her company or go somewhere else that values those skills to get that promotion.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I think Ni works best by dominating one subject.

[@sethmarchese397]

Bar tending is just as much about social skills than it is about making drinks (most of the time). So probably not the best job choice for INTJ's unless you want a challenge, hence Fe master.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

Is not that complex lol.

[@sethmarchese397]

@@qasimimtiaz9668 I have 3.5 years of bar tending experience. How much do you have? Let me guess, zero?

[@TokyoTaisu]

Right on Seth

[@stephenbrady5220]

More about what do I want to do? It’s like it’s going to come in a dream some day, lol. With nothing to focus on, skill is nothing.

[@Ben-d7t8o]

what about machine learning and ai? this could lead the intj to be a consultant where they choose their own clients outside of a job... (also do you have ideal career/ skill lists for each of the types?)

[@minusstage3]

The individual actor and the environment are not separate. Just like in astrology, business, corporate law, distillations, etc. For one needs to understand the gamut, otherwise there is no understanding.

[@alphadevoir6310]

That's for the advice on don't stop progress, or you will completely loose it.

[@alphadevoir6310]

Thanks not that's

[@Idyll_Insomniac]

Yup, that's why I kept getting INTP in the test, kept selecting outcome instead of movement. (Was also getting confused by Ti/Fe and Fi/Te). Only when going back to basics, looking at Linda Berens website and the specific temperament and interaction styles from your first/second playlist I believe, I realised I have to be INTJ. And it makes sense when I'm not over thinking it. Now to start planning out my life and start moving forward.

[@nourelhouda2628]

This was actually really useful advice for me (INFP) as well...

[@rocketassistedgoat1079]

INFPs and INTJs, are two sides of the same coin. Sincerely, an INTJ.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

​@@rocketassistedgoat1079 Romantic but inaccurate

[@mmkkad]

I am INTP. What kind of mental state (or single function) makes me triggered when I listen to self-centered INTJ throwing authoritative statements with ego-bounded judgements ? (usually about some social topics)

[@obcane3072]

Your Ti-Fe. Ti doesn't believe in the authority of data like the parent Te uses as proof.

[@nataliewantscookies]

I think it’s probably your high Ti and low Fe that doesn’t like INTJ’s Fi. An INTJ might have come to a Te/Fi conclusion which is based in reality and true, but you can’t accept it because of their impassioned expression. In my experience, INTJs state their case simply with Ni, without explaining themselves immediately, but they do so with the authority of Te/Fi and INTPs take that personally. INTPs feel that the INTJ just expects them to blindly follow/implicitly trust them and INTPs take that as an insult to their intelligence. If my hypothesis is true - my advice to INTPs would be to be patient and wait until someone is finished with their thought or learn to ask better questions and don’t take a bad faith approach to having those kind of conversations with people. Also, if you disagree you can calmly and logically bring up your points/pov and the INTJs will listen and accept and appreciate what you have to say, given you are expressing yourself well enough and willing to cross-analyze both of your points/perspectives. Do you think that fits? I don’t mean to offend.

[@mrod8578]

Well one of the main things INTJs lack is observation and weakness on social topics due to Fe blindspot which many INTPs actually like to study (INTPs due to Fe inferior actually value social skills and since it's a major insecurity of ours we seek to understand social settings, empathy, and the human condition). INTJs are often correct on many topics but when it comes to the human zeitgeist and tapping into social cues, INTJs can be amazingly ignorant. The problem is since they are often right on mostly every topic they express interest in, they also believe they are correct on social topics and can come off as arrogant without having an actual clue about what they're talking about. To an INTP this can literally lead us to rolling our eye balls as what they are saying insults our intelligence (especially if they are saying it aggressively and with "authority" which makes it worse). However much of this is not the INTJs fault. We have to remember they literally have Fe blindspot. If we care about an INTJ we need to show our empathy towards them and give them the benefit of the doubt. Provide them information in a way that doesn't hurt the INTJs Fi (emotions) without judgement and they will take it into consideration if the argument is valid or based in logic (something INTPs are good at). It's our job as INTPs to practice our empathy so that we can clearly communicate our logic skills to others without putting off others where the information could be valuable.

[@infdox9051]

They need to act in the real world, unlike INTPs

[@infdox9051]

@@mrod8578 INTJs warned people about the vagzine scam from the very start. Nobody listened

[@obedrobles4701]

Thank You So Much Chase ♥️🙌

[@TokyoTaisu]

Thank you Chase.

[@JungINFJ]

Nice cut csj. Looking fresh.

[@belerik01]

Well my life journey led me to the job i have now, i too changed careers, very early. and i did get my credentials as an it expert, but to proof to others that i have the skill for i made a job out of my hobby and that`s what made me really good at my job, not a school, btw i never attended one for that line of work, i just did the exams.

[@TheAlpha0zero]

Im dead at intj just see all contents abt them and move on lol instant like video

[@blitz19113]

Hi Chase. Can you have a typing episode of prominent anime characters? I'm interested about Pain and Itachi from Naruto.

[@rinbaee]

Pain is XNTP and Itachi is ISFJ . As typed by CSJ

[@justme8841]

Yeah thats how i wanna do it too.

[@t.6071]

What about INFJs?

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

I like to work as bartender but I don’t wanna work with estps lol 🤣

[@jaredvaughan1665]

Shouldn't INTPs focus on the outcome then? As we are outcome, and not movement types.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

Nah, focusing on outcome is ok for INTPs. Ne parent is aware of multiple possible outcomes.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

I agree, when I focus on the best possible outcome for me, it automatically makes me work hard for it.

[@zile8869]

Thx a lot! Sometimes you drop just the content I had been needing at just the right time! Recently came to the conclusion that part of what makes me respect myself more, is being willing to fight for what I want, even when I know that I will fail. Or in other words, doing things my way irregardless of the consequences.

[@marcelocoronel166]

Thanks.

[@mukherjee.p]

Told ya you needed to break down questions into parts which would reduce the chance of mistyping oneself in udja

[@Luca_683]

Hey Joseph, as an ENTP, I'm contemplating whether watching videos about types that represent my subconscious (ISFJ), unconscious (INTJ), and superego (ESFPs) would be beneficial alongside content about my ego type. I'm wondering if gaining insights from all four types could provide a more well-rounded understanding of myself.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

And so do I, please share more INTP videos too

[@thes7450]

I don't think mastery is the right word. I mean they're just as limited as any other type . I think a more accurate way to describe it is that they can be "good enough" and still keep moving forward. For example, Frank Abagnale just do what is necessary to achieve his goal. Did he focus on mastering the skill? no he just do what's necessary to keep moving forward. I know fi child has infinite potential to become good enough in anything just to get the job done especially when they have Ni hero. Recently, a guy just won an art competition using Dalle-2 which is an ai that generates art for you but does that mean he mastered the art? No it just mean he just did what's necessary to achieve the goal. You see where I'm going with this? I bet that guy is an intj lol. Sure they can master something but not everything. The best they can do is to gain the skills that's necessary very quickly to get the job done and then move on. In the end, they'll do something that benefits them and that's the ultimate goal at least for their Fi child.

[@theblackKatKuro]

As an INTJ, I fear getting into anything without a certain amount of surety. This is why we like degrees, it makes people credible enough. So whenever I start something new, I have an urge to know anything and everything about it. At the same time, I know its going to be time consuming. So I gather as much knowledge as possible, learn what needs to be learned. Now the goal decides how much deep I'll get into it. If its a hobby or something on the side I'll do as much as I could before feeling bored. And I get bored quite fast. So I get onto something new. Its like clearing game levels. If I'm invested enough I'll explore and collect items, if not I'll do the bare minimum to clear it.

[@CSJoseph]

Frank mastered being a thief…

[@thes7450]

@@CSJoseph Sure, I understand that. Of course, they can master something quickly. What I meant was that people of all types have a better chance of mastering something, but not everything, or at least not as quickly as those who are naturally good at it. Personally, I think that intj is the master of quickly achieving something that benefits them using any method with the least amount of effort. As a result, being a thief comes naturally to him.

[@jordinlissone8582]

@@thes7450well said

[@lazinanahar8835]

Based thing ever,I just only watch intj contents

[@farzanarimi2763]

2:13 You made my day.😁

[@inkerikavantera]

entp 8w7= entjsh = sounds about right

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

Ni can be an annoying function lol

[@duckbacon3117]

Especially optimistic Ni.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

@@duckbacon3117 Ni critic here, it gets a little too whiny about perfectionism.

[@duckbacon3117]

@@surbhiagarwal2322 Also Ni critic, what I like about ENXJs compared to INXJs is that they are more responsible with what they want becauseof Ni parent. Ni hero/Child gets too impulsive.

[@surbhiagarwal2322]

@@duckbacon3117 Ni parent keeps the order in check, very philosophical which is what I love about it.

[@mutiahanum4866]

What do INFJs are actually good at?

[@ryanmarvin3567]

I dont feel I'm good at anything. I say feel because I dont feel like I can think either. How am I so dogshit at typing because I try hard and never type consistently. I think (ooh I thought something) that the "intj master race" thing is a cover up for vain losers. Im uf so the vainglory doesnt help at all I get so pissed off when im not the absolute best almost to the point of crying which is cringy af but I've never cried yet.

[@rinbaee]

Loved "Get the Guy". Was great help for me. Awesome that you recommended it. Would totally agree, work experience is very imp to get into any career field.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

I rather have a problem with purpose of doing things. After my contact with many people i just don't trust them. They don't deserve to have my skills because they betrayed me many times. World (especially in capitalism) is full of pragmatic people which can sold you for their own goals even if you were friends before. Any personal values vanished today. That means that you must act like them if you enter to them or you must stay alone and live in your own world in which that kind of values still exist. So decision is between behaving like a bad person and lie to all people around me that im good to reach my own personal and materialistic goals or to still have a morality in modern world and avoid people as much as it is possible. Maybe even if price for this will be behaving like a poor man which sweeps the streets and squander potential of reaching everything which is reachable as you said.

[@CSJoseph]

No good deed goes unpunished as they say.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

@@CSJoseph I don't even want revenge on them (which indeed had place without my participation) and just want to let this world improve but i feel like i was born 100 years too early and people just don't understand me.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

@@1ghzxbox Thats what im talking about - global apathy. Thats why world goes in wrong direction. More dead people, more stupid people in governments, more aggressive and egoistic people which always want to kill self in wars. Thats why i don't even try to change anything. Because people just don't care about it. Fuck this world it will destroy self in its proud soon. Or maybe not all people don't care about it? So i will help and give my advices only to good people with big heart.

[@photosky14]

I don't know who you are, but what you are talking about is my life. Don't worry you are not alone. I don't fit either here. All fake.

[@bozydarziemniak1853]

@@photosky14 Thanks for support I appreciate this comment.

[@diyab1056]

Lol I only watch the INTJ videos also :p This one's pretty good too. I'm a lawyer btw

[@duckbacon3117]

You seem kinda informative to be an INTJ?

[@duckbacon3117]

@@CHIKI7AKA No, I actually haven't. I just checked it out though... it is a possibility.

[@zile8869]

@@duckbacon3117 when it comes to the type gride, INTJs contradict everything. We are triple movement, yet we have an Ni hero need for certainty, making us act and feel like outcome types. We are Responding, yet being highly masculine Ni users, we are expected to initiate in social interaction. We are direct, yet we can talk a lot and because of how much detail we provide about the things we like talking about we often seem like we are informatively providing 'additional context'. We are abstract, yet we have pessimistic Se and Te, making us act more concrete at times and making us a bit more dismissive of certain outlandish ideas. We are pragmatic, yet our innocent Fi child, deadly sin of vainglory and heart temple Fe can make us occasionally seem very affiliative at times, especially when it comes to certain moral beliefs we hold or other things we are passionate about. We are systematic, yet our Ne nemesis and vice of paranoia makes us constantly think of the interests and intentions of others. Our cognitive origin is reverence, yet we often feel as if we care more about purpose and ambition. Etcetera etcetera.

[@diyab1056]

@@zile8869 wow you described it well :)

[@duckbacon3117]

@@zile8869 My condolences, sir.

[@kzLskL]

Maybe stop calling people disgusting while you're trying to "motivate" them?

[@CSJoseph]

If they are that weak then that’s on them. I have been called disgusting my whole life. One day of it doesn’t matter.

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

I think SPs learn skills the fastest.

[@duckbacon3117]

More specifically, ISTPs.

[@tehflooper]

maybe just mechanical / physical skills

[@sylviaowega3839]

In all honestly, as much as the INTJ lacks social skills (which they do), they do not fair as bad as the INTP. I can tell you that being an INTP myself

[@qasimimtiaz9668]

I agree, in my opinion, Te is a social function.

[@duckbacon3117]

​@@qasimimtiaz9668 So is Fe, hence why ENFJs are the most soical and extroverted type.

[@PA007]

@@qasimimtiaz9668 I think it's Se

[@intpninja]

Fe automatically gives you far higher social skill potential, you just have to use and discover it

[@kiddracoify]

Me in my late teens: I am going to uni- I failed once, I failed twice, I picked up an apprenticeship and I am going partially back to uni again. Everybody, who asks me if I would go directly into the apprenticeship directly, wants me to agree. But seriously I can't. Along that way, as exhausting and painful as it was... I actually learnt a lot. From working in a minimu wage job I learnt respect and polietness, simple because I did not get any. I made a note off it and swore myself to never treat anybody in customer service like that myself. I gathered knowledge, which I was asked to share, which helped developing teaching, mentoring and leadership skills on the fly. Will I succeed in getting my degree now? Maybe, I will see. I just want not to regret the fact, that I gave up and gather more skills, knowledge along the way ( and you get great discounts as a student, not gonna lie). Currently I do not have much to brag about, since I am slightly frustrated with my job and company rank, but I am working on that. What I am trying to say is: I planned, I failed, I failed again, I got up and kept on going and if in ten years I seriously can not stand my job... well, I might become a carpenter, XD All these expierence suck and my SI demon loves to present them to me, but I would not want to miss them at all.

[@SantanaBanana47]

Getting over fear of failure is so so important for infjs and intjs.

[@peaklander1]

good luck m8