Introducing CK3 - Religion

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

Which tenets are you looking forward to the most?

[@SmellyChicken69]

not a sex cult

[@BLANK-kq8wv]

the isolation tenet

[@chickensoundedmexicanyt9732]

Monasticism

[@xAKIMBOCURLYx]

got to love Coptic

[@ZephanyZephZeph]

High development, matriarch society that kicks the hell out of brits as a united ireland

[@RushyoTakha]

Heresy: Denouncing Venice.

[@AmbigousInfluence]

Remember to ban crabs!

[@PillowWillow007]

You could make a religion out of this ...

[@Fun4luve]

@@PillowWillow007 no don't

[@michaelweir9666]

All this time I thought truffles were chocolates, but they're actually pigs.

[@shrimpisdelicious]

Currently locked in a holy war with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints of Boats

[@hannovonbahrenfeld5986]

Man September just can't come fast enough! The hype is real!

[@Hardman._]

Yer I wished they'd release it on the weekend...

[@hannovonbahrenfeld5986]

@@Hardman._ Yep working is not easy with CK waiting back home xD

[@caldwell0729]

@@hannovonbahrenfeld5986 I am a teacher so the release is the worst possible time for me.

[@foty8679]

@@caldwell0729 What are you teaching?

[@caldwell0729]

@@foty8679 6th Grade Math

[@CaptainObvious]

*creates religion* "My Lord, you must pick a head of faith!" *makes himself head of faith* *henry viii flashbacks*

[@magicdog9523]

"The head of faith will decide the fate of your marriage." "I am the head of faith."

[@RowanVeeTee]

Not gonna lie, when I inevitably do a House of Normandy run, I full intend on starting the Anglican Reformation a few centuries early.

[@cassiusemmanualtheyoutubep3171]

@Magic Dog Not yet!

[@magicdog9523]

@@RowanVeeTee That's *exactly* my plan! Though it's going to be my first playthrough. I'm planning on doing the tutorial then immediately jumping in as Duke William of Normandy.

[@Rybend]

I will dedicate my entire religion towards Glitterhoof. He's a good boi, he deserves it

[@wolfhowl983]

His divine regencies have kept many empires from crumbling to dust.

[@Thatchycar516]

Now this man is talking

[@generationm2059]

We shall spread the One True Faith of Glitterhoofism from horizon to horizon. Come crusaders, we must Deus Hoof these infidels!

[@Rybend]

@@generationm2059 Neigh. Thy shalln't use aggression, for the mighty Glitters of the Hoof dictate we spread peacefully, for those who follow Glitterhoof by their own will shall be granted immortality.

[@HGShurtugal]

Isn't gkitterhoof always a female.

[@ancsuther]

Finally, they're officially talking about custom heresys! :D

[@kaizikenpinas]

Wake me up when September starts

[@emukun9107]

Wake up, its September

[@kaizikenpinas]

Emu Kun thanks. Downloading the game right now

[@rogueassassin875]

Wake me up when they add Deus Vult Oh wait...

[@toze2145]

When it comes to the potential mods for this game, this makes me quiet hopeful. Can't wait for my ambitious arrogant Mage-king/emperor in Elder Kings to dub himself a God!

[@castor9683]

I just hope they actually make an Elder Kings mod for CK3. I'm kind of worried that with the 3D portraits it's gonna be a lot more work to model all the different races of the Elder Scrolls games to make it look immersive and that that might put them off of Elder Kings for CK3

[@demaskiert2729]

@@castor9683 it will come dont you worry

[@zagamun5909]

​@@castor9683 I think something that'd help a lot is that almost all of the races in Elder Kings are humanoid and often just humans with small edits. So they wouldn't need an entirely new model or rig. From dev comments on their forums it sounds like it's not really possible to make a non-humanoid character that is also animated.

[@BLINDrOBOTFILMS]

@@zagamun5909 RIP my Argonian stealth archer emperor.

[@lukecreed5767]

I'm a god. How can you kill a god?

[@Spartan322]

Medieval Reformation sounds like a fun idea.

[@ScurvyBoi]

Well I have to admit, I didn't originally have much *faith* in this game to be honest, but seeing how religion is handled completely changed my mind, I thought there weren't many improvements you could make to CK2, but here we are. Good work PDX.

[@RedEyeLordofFire]

Shouldn't the Pope the Spiritual Head of Insular Christianity. Is he not the spiritual head because the game cannot function with the same character being the spiritual head of multiple faiths?

[@VABJMJ]

I wonder about this as well.

[@atifspahic1179]

Same thing for Ashari and Maturidi faiths, in real life they had the same caliph but in game they dont have the same caliph..

[@متين-ج4ز]

Atif Spahić Yeah, Ash’ari and Maturidi aren’t separate sects of Islam, just two different schools of theology in Sunni Islam, kind of weird to separate them.

[@toze2145]

I wondered about this as well and it seems Celtic Christianity denied the Pope's authority. So, it seems to be correct.

[@VABJMJ]

@@toze2145 Not really, where did you get that? O.o Celtic Christianity has been under the Latin Patriarchate since the beginning.

[@Differentialify]

MY FAITH IS MY SHIELD

[@lindennis4522]

MY ARMOR IS CONTEMPT!

[@jamiesnack]

I did NOT expect Apollo to be narrating this a suprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[@ikfatzilla]

There should be a slider with every dialogue box that pops up involving gold, the trade off would be “gain positive relations with (x) and on the other side is the lords max gold or event cap”

[@ikfatzilla]

I really feel that in medieval times people used every chance they could to swing people into their graces. With releasing prisoners there should be like -50% to the timer that keeps track of how long that lord will be mad at you. Useing the slider it would go from that -50% on the left and up to %150 super turbo hate bc you basically bankrupt him and his family? Giving the early game a chance to conquer but restabalize the land in less time, ie; months not years.

[@chillchannel8658]

Really want to be able to create my own religion and then be able to declare my own version of a crusade.

[@Maple.leaves]

There were definitely still druids in Ireland at the time. Looking forward to being able to create them at least

[@rogueassassin875]

........... In a dlc

[@sydgront1]

Finally a religion I can get behind. BEHOLD IMPERIUM OF MAN, THE GOD OF MANKIND, GOD EMPEROR!

[@yoloswagtron6920]

I approve.

[@avsbes98]

@@yoloswagtron6920 Why though? It absolutely contradicts the Imperial Truth and your core ideology that Religion should not exist.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

It's Fhirauwn all over again.

[@yoloswagtron6920]

@@avsbes98 In the 30k era, I'd agree. In the 40k, I'll take what I can get.

[@cmdkaboom]

This guy’s been the best tutorial one of the group so far.

[@ZamorakTV]

This is the last of this series! It's so close!

[@LittleMushroomGuy]

A Head of Faith should be able to hold more religion. For example the Apostolic Church and Insular Christianity should be able both to fall under the control of the Catholic Papacy. And maybe even when it comes to uniting all Christian churches, the Orthodox church might still hold to its traditions but accepting the Catholic Pope, like Greek Catholicism

[@reeceshugrue6167]

The same goes for certain Islamic faiths in the game as well. Some of them are just schools of Islam which fell under the same Caliph.

[@dylanmah7791]

something similar could be used to represent start dates before the Great Schism.

[@darken2417]

They could for Catholicism implement subordinate regional non-Roman rites. Ex: Byzantine rite, Assyrian rite, Greek Rite, etc. Also for Apostolics and Insulars to be fully integrated through events.

[@quintessence2183]

@@reeceshugrue6167 I definitely agree, it doesn't make much sense in either example.

[@Kittnikita]

Tomboy Supremacy for the win!

[@RiwenX]

U wot m8

[@LittleMushroomGuy]

Preordered it today, damn cant wait till the 1st!

[@thetalesofdugganfights7209]

not on you can get it today if you go on their private webist

[@thetalesofdugganfights7209]

Called onlyfans

[@ivanivan2390]

Is it still possible to restore Hellenism?

[@mushroomwednesday6261]

Yes

[@hamidrezafazeli8393]

Thank you so much Please include subtitles

[@SuperQBoi]

@ 1:35 Thier are SIX levels of devotion, the first level is Sinner than it goes up into Dutiful

[@LunaticKid889]

I wonder if I can revive Hellenic at launch... It was something I loved trying to do in CK2 and never fully accomplished.

[@serrico0869]

I am interested in this too and have ideas of creating an Amazonian type dynasty.

[@gravviq5592]

Pretty sure Hellenic revival will be possible at release

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

The Hellenistic period may be seen to end either with the final conquest of the Greek heartlands by Rome in 146BC following the Achaean War, with the final defeat of the Ptolemaic Kingdom at the Battle of Actium in 31 BC, or even the move by Roman emperor Constantine the Great of the capital of the Roman Empire to Constantinople in AD 330. 867 is the earlier date you can start in Crusader Kings 3 so it doesn't make a lot of sense for it to be playable within the game's time frame. Technically, you could play it. It's there so you can potentially play as it. It's not really meant to be playable though.

[@frank9644]

What does the 'Hellenistic period' have to do with the religion? There were most certainly Greek pagans surviving post 330AD, with some groups like the Maniots surviving well into the the 9th century, which fits the 867 start date.

[@yoloswagtron6920]

@@ParadoxGrandStrategy While it might not make sense for the period, it's still a pretty popular roleplay element for those who focus on restoring the Roman Empire (and some Byzophiles). Restoring a dead religion is pretty unique and something I look forward to every Roman Restoration playthrough I do in CK2. Maybe it's something you guys could consider adding for the Byz/Roman DLC down the line. Restoring other dead religions could be a cool mechanic as well.

[@CalmSmilingMan]

The dev's really took a closer looks to the mods out there. Now you can customize the sins and virtue right from the get go. But why there's only 5 virtue and sins tho?

[@jackiecozzie4803]

You can probably do more, just that's the default for Christianity or something

[@autopilot5315]

probably so that they can make a dlc for it later

[@dedale2610]

@@autopilot5315 We get it, you're a cynic.

[@Nomilh]

@@autopilot5315 To be fair from what we've seen CK3 has more content than CK2 with all the DLCs ( or it's very close ) which makes me happy to see what the future will hold, I do hope that they'll copy the model of TWW2 on DLCs, adding improvements even for people that don't buy them while selling additional content to keep the game going

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

@@dedale2610 Its 2020 how come you're NOT!

[@0jacon0ice0]

Wake me up in a few days guys I'm gonna sleep it

[@efeozmen8838]

finally I got ck 3 I got the full package I hope the Turkish patch comes

[@rollsolms5886]

Any pagan religions I'm looking forward to play as Norway and Odin, or reinstaurate Júpiter maximus in rome

[@mrluga]

Saaaame. I want to keep Norwegian pagan!

[@adamrules01]

Is Zoroastrianism still in the game?

[@ReMeDy_TV]

@ 2:35 What do they mean by an adjective? Like for example, what would be the adjective for the religion of Christianity?

[@FiauraTheTankGirlGamer]

Wait... Knights, Ladies, and Lords? Well I shall see myself out. *Marches out all Dame Warrior Style!*

[@derStrategieNerd]

This Game looks realy awesome. It can't wait to show it on my channel.

[@anonymousanonymous31]

Will you add more counties to Ireland and the like since CK2's Holy Fury map has quite a few more counties in such places?

[@isaacwilcox3010]

The map has already been revealed to have added many more counties in all parts of the map.

[@Cruxador]

The map has already been revealed and there are far fewer counties than CK2, as seen in the video.

[@Apokalypse456]

@@isaacwilcox3010 I recall that not being true. Some places drew the short end of the stick, ireland being one of them.

[@isaacwilcox3010]

Apokalypse456 Has Ireland gotten fewer counties? I wouldn’t know, it wasn’t shown in the dev diaries.

[@isaacwilcox3010]

Cruxador In some areas yes but in most areas there are more counties. Overall i’d say there a far more counties then in ck2.

[@Dr.Johnboy]

Tomorrow!!!

[@psychologicalsuccess3476]

I'm like still doubting that CKIII actual is going to exist like ah!

[@doodle0211]

2:46 I wonder why they decided that success in Holy Wars will reduce fervor. I am guessing it's a balance thing to reduce blobbing but it just doesn't seem to make sense that winning in holy wars will reduce religious fervor.

[@dominicomucci3014]

It does make sense. People don't care so much about religion until there is an issue. No one cares about the crusades until Muslims started conquering and shutting off access to Christians so this increased fervour. Once it was captured back everyone calmed down decreasing fervour. You didn't see repeated crusades and expansion only defensive crusades to try to hold onto Christian land. So as a game mechanic makes sense.

[@doodle0211]

@@dominicomucci3014 I mean the video also mentioned waging Holy Wars reduce fervor as well, in that case, your logic doesn't fit. Also, what you describe sounds more in tune with controlling a holy site, rather than holy wars in general. And in the game mechanic of Crusader Kings, crusades and holy wars are two different things. Plus, there's another aspect that doesn't make sense with your explanation. For example, if a Christian from Wales cares about a defensive holy war happening in Edessa or something (since religious fervor seems to affect the whole Christendom), why doesn't he/she care about an offensive holy war happening in the same place, Edessa?

[@AS-jf2mf]

2:53 wow great combat

[@yukirby3741]

Can you choose holy sites when you form a new faith?

[@TheBeastCH]

I need to know that too

[@lolpop241]

@@TheBeastCH I need to know that three

[@SymeonPhronema]

A very good question.

[@MichaelFortner1989]

They confirmed (in one of the Discord QA sessions I think) that, holy sites are the same as the original faith of the founder. Holy sites are even more powerful than in ck2, and this is a simple mechanic that can't be cheesed. I do hope we can eventually determine at least one of the holy sites, perhaps via a costly separate decision after founding the religion, but for release I can see why the current method is good enough.

[@SpanishDio]

i'm gonna bring back Greco-Roman Paganism all the way.

[@TheWolfwiththeDragon]

Can you change the doctrines as well of just the tenets? Because the doctrines is what I look forward to the most to play around with.

[@riktorGaming]

This is very nice, but could this be added into a playlist of somesorts to be able to watch them all?

[@SuperWolfman9]

God-Empress dynasty here I come!

[@theonemarlowe9117]

Can't wait!

[@Unormalism]

I hope someday for more dynamic Holy Sites so we can do more with Heresies.

[@AthreanSon]

I just can't wait thuesday ffs

[@vinylninja]

Never played CS II and trying to get up to speed - so much to learn I love it

[@Apokalypse456]

CounterStrike II ? :P

[@vinylninja]

@@Apokalypse456 have 1456 hours on cs source and 1644 hours on cs go haha. Yes I need a life

[@Apokalypse456]

@@vinylninja Well, its fine though? I have 1700 hours in EU4 and I havent really played it in 3 years... And 1300 hours in ck2.. and then comes csgo i think with ~700 hours.

[@NickMcIntyre72]

Finally, my dream of creating The Church of the Fonz shall be realized.

[@blueflavour5215]

And the heavenly Saint Potsie cried to the masses: "Though shall sit on it and be saved!"

[@12Prophet]

Who's here just to get an extra glimpse of the game that is excruciatingly still a few days away?

[@Angel-mi8tu]

This game looks sick!!!

[@KY_100]

Very cool

[@gnx10111]

Super hypes

[@Muslim123unite.]

I am ready to accept any religion for financially help me

[@pauliegod7269]

hey Paradox, can you do polish subtitles in game?

[@hannahmeaker4595]

can you choose doctrines?

[@ToastyModeste]

So close, I can almost taste it

[@aleverettes2789]

"Our legal system is not advanced enough to allow horse-man relationship"

[@crazyhercules9442]

Me at 11:59pm on Aug. 31st: “only one more minute... COME ON!!” *after one precise minute, the calendar changes to 12:00am Aug. 32nd* Me: *cries myself to sleep*

[@phoebus86]

We all know how crazy religion is going to get.

[@arfn1973]

Great now we can amplify Fitna of Andalusia.

[@majorsamio4949]

Any information about societies?

[@tko3945]

I've never heard the word fervor said so many times in my life

[@autisonm]

So if I create a completely new religion instead of basing it off of an existing one where will the holy sites for that new religion be? I can imagine one would naturally be your capital or the nearest church in your domain but the other would likely be within the same region correct?

[@josephcourtright8071]

Its always based on an existing one.

[@drsoe08]

can you reform pagan religions like in Holy Fury?

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

Yes! Read more in the following Dev Diary: forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/threads/dev-diary-21-custom-faiths-and-pagan-reformation.1372700/

[@8000_k]

Time for Global Caliphate

[@samuelbunkly2527]

Cracked: D0 who's with me?

[@bl2254]

Insular christians recognized the pope tho

[@garrulously]

Looking for this exact comment, I was thinking the same thing. I guess by having no head it emulates the fact insulars were isolated from the Papacy more than the mainland and sometimes they ignored the big papa and did their own thing

[@DaFoeWitt]

Will ck2 soundtracks imported to ck3? I need my Viking Gods to immerse myself for holy war.

[@blakejohnson1016]

So can I create cannibal faith?

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

Yup!

[@quintessence2183]

@@ParadoxGrandStrategy Other game companies: The most important thing is to keep the game appropiate for all ages, we can't have anything too explicit. Paradox: Yeah just chuck in cannibalism, what could go wrong?

[@MikeyHansen]

Can someone count how many times they said the word "Faith" ? lol For real though, can't wait for the release

[@PetruRatiu]

What are the locks that show up at 0:22 ?

[@PrutteHans]

No idea why they'd be symbolized as keys, but it looks to be where the religious heads are residing. At least with the Pope in rome and the Ecumenical patriarch in Constantinople.

[@PetruRatiu]

@@PrutteHans not sure what the context is, if it's the starting screen it might mean that you can't play religious heads (like CK2 limited you to specific govt types). Sounds a bit weird/specific so I'm hoping for a clarification.

[@PrutteHans]

@@PetruRatiu I think you could play as the muslim heads, because usually the Egyptian/Arabian caliph was one of them. I don't think the muslim heads had any special purpose outside of jihad announcing, though.

[@josephcourtright8071]

I believe they are holy sites for Eastern Orthodox or maybe Coptic church.

[@italianbourgeois2926]

Can we play as theocracies?

[@xbetalkerx]

I wud really like a MEIOUandTaxes mod in ck3!!

[@max__pain]

I thought that mod is an EU4 thing? Personally I can't wait for the Ice and Fire mod.

[@xbetalkerx]

@@max__pain It is a EUIV mod but i think It cud really fit on this new polited ck3. Population, villages, economy and trade... It would add a lot of deepness.

[@lilmomma6972]

Someone please answer, Will Royal Edition still be available for purchase after CK3 is released?

[@quintessence2183]

Almost definitely.

[@Dorf274]

Would have been nice to see more of the other relgion groups

[@genova4485]

How do I send ruler to religious site ?

[@walkerfrommb]

If I hear fervor one more time, imma stab my ear drums.

[@ThexXxXxOLOxXxXx]

Lol 2:21 is when my mental health deteriorated.

[@DraganAlves]

WHY ISN'T IT TUESDAY YET!?

[@foty8679]

Because its only Saturday yet

[@Mundiz_]

Finally they added Insular/Celtic Christianity, Norway should be Insular Christian too.

[@M1ckyCFC]

Insular Christianity tho doesn't make sense to me wasn't pre Christian Ireland Gaelic pagan.

[@Mundiz_]

Marcelo Henrique Soares da Silva Irish monks converted Norway before the Catholics could.

[@edwardzachjohnston-crosier460]

Slightly unrelated, but for modding. But in terms of how moddable the game is, how possible in theory would a mod which introduces the entire earths globe be? What would the largest issues in doing so?

[@Audifaram]

despite the fact that it would be weird to see the entire globe organised in a feudal way, the amount of titles and charakters the game engine has to keep track of would most likely melt your system.

[@Henchgirls]

The map is most likely a 2D image of some variety, not a 3D globe...

[@bootifulb4427]

it should be doable espessially with the preformence inprovements but would probably still be really laggy

[@Apokalypse456]

@Qui-Gon Jinn AGOT does not even encompass the entire world of ASOIAF. Sothoryos is barely touched and it is unknown how far north westeros truly goes. also, there is another northern continent, presumably without inhabitants because its too cold.

[@lukecreed5767]

It should definitely be feasible, otherwise you couldn't have mods like A Game of Thrones or Elder Kings. Performance, though... well, adding the entire world would certainly slow it down. And I don't know how you could make America and Oceania feudal, but even if it's just "fantasy feudalism" I'd be on board with it.

[@sebaseba6710]

Well I'm happy that nonpagan religions can be reformed

[@belphegor_dev]

Are saints included in the base game?

[@reeceshugrue6167]

Faiths and custom faiths in-game should have an option to remain under the same Head of Faith as their parent faith(for Insular Christianity, Apostolic and the schools of Islam).

[@sergeyryavkin5085]

What about pagan reformation in ck3?

[@Spongejeezy]

all you had to say was fever replaces moral authority

[@almevo]

Can you create your religion or only a Faith ? for example can i bring the glory and power of the God Emperor to CK3?

[@foty8679]

The Imperial Cult approves this. The emperor protects.

[@yoloswagtron6920]

I approve of your zeal, Imperial citizen.

[@tru8637]

Take a shot everytime pixie says faith

[@ДмитрийКолдаев-й1р]

Could you create new holy sites when creating new religion, should you choose from your religious group's or how does it works?

[@ParadoxGrandStrategy]

Holy sites will be inherited from the parent Faith.

[@Ausfailia]

I was going to pre order tonight but I can't in Australia :(

[@LecherousLizard]

1:05 Tfw, you can make zoophilia an acceptable past-time in your custom religion.

[@Kadbros]

So can one try to recreate the Protestant faith?

[@michaelmiranda6571]

Hail Sol Invictus!

[@georgemagalashvili3077]

can I make witchcraft the state religion

[@7Anakin7]

I'm agnostic. Can I ignore this part of the game? Or do I have to play with these features in order to win?

[@KTA1sVidsandFacts]

Retake Sassanid lands, and become Zoroastrian once again!

[@EmperorCaligula_EC]

Whoa you can create your own religion! I just deify myself and my horse!

[@kkaazzzz]

P O G

[@Seanfones]

How do you change your religion? Say you’re orthodox but want to change your rulers religion to catholic

[@CptCasper]

I was going to pre-order ck3 but the more videos I see of it the more dumbed down it appears to be so I'll be holding off until I see some reviews after release I hope I'm wrong as I love ck2 but we'll see soon enough :/