iPhone Names Don't Make Sense

[@somemusic8845]

-iPhone 17 Pro with A17 Pro and iOS 17- iPhone 15 Pro with A17 Pro and iOS 17

[@avreve]

thats actually crazy.

[@z-fam2013]

Broooooo

[@jocklazer4]

That’s how it should’ve been lol

[@01ParadoxPE]

This is because... seven ate nine.

[@notsofunny4u]

Bruh

[@HarrowwInk]

explains why there's no windows 9 there'll prolly not be a mario kart 9 either

[@damiancho7977]

Seven eight nine**

[@damiancho7977]

@@HarrowwInkMKT is the ninth game

[@HarrowwInk]

@@damiancho7977 mario kart tour isnt a real mario kart

[@randomtechforyou]

Windows left the chat.

[@Anthonygeez_HAMPTER]

I’m using windows dell rn

[@randomtechforyou]

@reyashvishwa it still makes sense since the names started matching the year of release so as to better identify it.

[@wormwormed]

Android left the chat

[@randomtechforyou]

@LILTENAVEVO what's with that nearly unreadable piece of text

[@anthonycarey395]

Wdym nearly unreadable? It’s easy to read

[@RobloxianX]

iPhone 9 is iPhone SE 2, which makes iPhone SE 3 iPhone 9s

[@nickbradley]

The SE 2 and SE 3 use the design of the 8, so couldn't you argue they'd be part of the "Gen 5.5+" you mention? But I hear you, they could have called the SE 2 "iPhone 9," but I get why they didn't from a marketing perspective.

[@Me7o527]

iPhone 9 is iPhone X and iPhone 10 is iPhone XR, iPhone SE 2 has iPhone 11 internals and iPhone SE 3 has iPhone 13 internals

[@RideOnTimePH]

Chinese case makers often call the first gen SE as 5SE 😂

[@0w3nn]

There ain't an iPhone 9 buddy

[@arisdr6504]

I agree ☝️

[@pretty_bored]

"iPhone names make no sense" Samsung going from S10 to like S20 for no reason at all crying in the corner:

[@nickbradley]

Haha, I actually don't have a huge issue with this, because the number always stood for something. 1-10 it stood for the current generation. And then for the 11th generation, they changed it to the year the phone was being released instead (2020).

[@gottod6895]

@@nickbradley At this rate they would have no problem until the S99.

[@hi_its_meYOUNES]

​@@gottod6895A100?

[@jayb8934]

Honestly, the "s" phones usually have the most improvements. The new "numbered" versions are usually considered better just because they have a new design.

[@0w3nn]

Absolutely. The iPhone 6s and 6 are so radically different from each other. They're completely different generations. One is a modern smartphone and one is an early smartphone.

[@jayster3.0]

I think after the iPhone 20, we should just completely switch to roman numerals, tbh

[@Homme_De_Kro-mignon]

Not sure Apple would be happy naming the iPhone 30 "iPhone XXX"

[@Homme_De_Kro-mignon]

And the iPhone 40 would be named "iPhone XL", then the 50 would be named "iPhone L" which sounds kind of a downgrade (but will the iPhone persists until that point ?)

[@-bigChungusVerified]

@@Homme_De_Kro-mignon Iphones will persist longer than this humanity and iPhones will be used even after humanity ends

[@user-mf9gs]

Nah, that’s what Sony does, and theirs sounds confusing too. What’s the purpose of the Sony Xperia 5 xx? It’s really a standard version of the Xperia 1 xx (like the Samsung S24 is to the S24 Ultra and iPhone 15 is to the 15 Pro) but it’s slotted between the flagship 1 xx and budget 10 xx even though it’s not a midranger.

[@anshinshaju4078]

@@user-mf9gs I am getting headche from just reading this

[@OctaviusGeorge]

I hope in 2027 we get the IPhone XX for its 20th anniversary and from that point on the names will match it’s generation

[@mihailoaleksic3330]

Then they'd need to release 2 iPhones from 2024-2026 instead of 3.

[@PumpedSmartass]

1:09 the iPhone 3G is literally Just the original iPhone with 3G and a plastic housing. It should be the same generation and should be supported to 4.2.1 both

[@nickbradley]

You know, that’s the first time I’ve heard that argument. It’s not a bad one. If going solely off designs, the first three iPhones are all essentially one generation. (The 3G did also add GPS, but I wouldn’t say that’s a huge differentiator)

[@PumpedSmartass]

@@nickbradley yeah, and the hardware, design and marketing generations are all off at some point, I know 😅 I came from a programming standpoint, for me hardware identifiers gave us the most accurate generational categorization. Everything else is just a revamp for better sales or resales of already existing hardware manufacturing

[@ajithvkashyap9130]

Dude you are seriously one of the most professional tech KZbinrs I've seen.... U deserve more

[@nickbradley]

Thank you!! I’ll do my best to keep them coming.

[@SamiSaba2]

6:36 which they called the latest pro “M4” and the latest air “M2” so this is a new naming scheme for the iPads

[@jaszko2880]

Iphone 9 doesn’t exist bc 7 8 9

[@corrupti]

where is 9? 7 8 9 that joke was so stupid

[@Shadow42184]

The easiest way to track the iPhone generation is by the OS that it launches with. So the upcoming iPhone 16 which will launch with iOS 18 will be the 18th generation. It’s when you start talking about the iPhone SEs and iPads that things get tricky.

[@Ilyes_OFF1]

Always a sense (Marketing, money) Windows made a 9th version of Windows, is Windows 8.1 or 10X, the iPhone x has lot of variant the worst one would be the 9

[@ashtong85]

The background music kinda slaps

[@BrownChocoMilkBoy]

Ipad standard names really makes sense

[@user-mf9gs]

Same with all the other iPads.

[@stricyr1681]

Steve Jobs literally called iPhone 4 the 4th generation… therefore the 3GS would be classified as a 3rd generation.

[@nickbradley]

Exactly!

[@PumpedSmartass]

iPhone 4 has a hardware identifier starting from iPhone3,1, because it’s the 3rd generation. Everything else is marketing

[@nickbradley]

@@PumpedSmartass Interesting. I’ve looked at those hardware identifiers, but they seemed to have some inconsistencies too.

[@PumpedSmartass]

@@nickbradley yeah, even hardware identifiers can be sometimes inconsistent. Apple has some unique ways and I had to learn it the hard way sometimes. Maybe this could be an interesting topic for another video

[@nickbradley]

@@PumpedSmartass I agree. I have an eventual follow up to this video in mind, and I think hardware identifiers should be involved. Thanks!

[@andquanto5546]

“iPhone names make no sense” *Xiaomi enters the room*

[@mrrleoplayz3809]

Xiaomi flagship naming makes sense, not midrange or budget categories.

[@avreve]

enter oneplus nord series

[@Ghost_00140]

@@avrevefr

[@mihailoaleksic3330]

Xiaomi Redmi Mi Note Pro Plus Lite

[@fabefave3271]

I remember when the iPads first came out. We had the original iPad, then we got the iPad 2, and we were expecting the following iPad to be called “iPad 3” but instead they simply called it “the new iPad” and it kept that name until the 4th generation iPad came out.

[@nickbradley]

I remember that too 😅 that was an odd one. They’ve given up on the numbering scheme in iPads which is nice, and I think they’ll eventually have to do it with iPhones too.

[@itsjasonhere]

The pro is just like the plus they stay with the normal ones and the mini

[@Gamezer2423]

In german 9 means no. Just saying

[@NolemTac]

you deserve more views and subscribers, your videos are very professional!

[@nickbradley]

I appreciate that! I’m still pretty new to KZbin, so hopefully they come as I put out more and more videos 😁

[@roadrunner7279]

Skipping 9 to iphone X was for 10 anniversary for iphone

[@nickbradley]

Yes, that’s true. I don’t have an issue with the iPhone X name, although I did read somewhere they originally wanted it ready a year earlier for the 10th generation. Not sure if that’s true or not.

[@S-1_24-25]

@@nickbradleyI remember leaks before the iPhone 8 came out where the 8 was meant to get the design the X got

[@anthonycarey395]

People are saying iPhone SE 2 is iPhone 9 that’s so dumb cuz the iPhone SE phones is an entirely different line of phones🤮

[@SamiSaba2]

An iPhone SE compared to the latest iPhone from that time is the equivalent of comparing iPads to the latest iPhone from that time

[@futurepaver2039]

I couldn't agree more with so much of what was said in this video. Well done!

[@nickbradley]

Thank you!

[@That.One_Luke]

The fact that apple made the s series except for the iphone 7 and 8 until coming back again with the xs and then disappearing again

[@gameboyampah5609]

Explain how we went from “s” to “plus” to “pro” to “max pro”

[@nickbradley]

“S” was used to differentiate between two generations. “Plus,” “Pro,” and “Pro Max” are used to distinguish between different models within the same generation. It’s all just marketing terms.

[@stricyr1681]

In ways retrospect.. S means the upgraded version, faster, and more professional. Then they changed the term to pro.. which is also upgraded. plus means it’s bigger. Then they shortly changed the term to max… just bigger. So now it’s pro and max

[@FroggyplayzTyyy]

There’s 15 and 14 plus so there’s still plusses around

[@visibletoallusersonyt]

@@stricyr1681 Pro Max has been around since iPhone 11

[@visibletoallusersonyt]

@@stricyr1681 Max was only its own term with the XS Max

[@tdjl09]

I’ve looked at the word iPhone so much it doesn’t look real now

[@not_psx8535]

Underrated ytber

[@nickbradley]

I appreciate that!

[@borispashnin1733]

In my eyes iPhone X is iPhone 9 and iPhone XS is actually the 10

[@nickbradley]

Hmm, interesting way to look at it!

[@socalog0762]

Bro I tought you had more views you’re actually good

[@nickbradley]

Thank you! It’s been almost one year since my first upload, and I’m pretty happy with all the views I’ve gotten so far! Thanks for watching 😁

[@pickle24]

Wow, another completely useless and uninteresting point or "fact". Let's make a video essay! Don't worry everyone needs it

[@nickbradley]

@@pickle24 Subscribe for more!

[@TheWatermelon699]

Samsung that jumped from s10 to s20:

[@paranaenselol]

@@TheWatermelon699 s10 was the real generation but then they started naming after the year

[@TheWatermelon699]

@@paranaenselol ik

[@addict3599]

i got some poll and it led me here, that’s crazy 😭😭

[@blissssssssss]

Aren’t we all from the poll😂😂

[@RobloxianX]

You have to rethink everything from the 11 to now. Apple changed up the naming scheme, they didn’t want to give the lowest model a name that would be seen as degrading. In reality the 11,12,13,14, and 15 are really the lower spaced variants. The 11 pro to the 15 pro are the actual base model iPhones that follow the first generation to the XS.

[@ViRatio]

Ok, iPhone 6 and iPhone 7, they don't have the same design, similar but not the same...

[@0w3nn]

iPhone 6s is closer to the iPhone 7 than iPhone 6

[@TheRobber10]

Technically iPhone 6,6s,7,8 all looks same and can’t tell difference by looking at the front. The only difference you will see is looking at back or built material

[@ProjectZorgo2.0]

The iPhone 10 would’ve been iPhone 9

[@nickbradley]

It depends on how you do the counting. According to rumors, they thought the 8 would be the 7S, and then X would be the 8. Technically they could have done 8 and 9. The official reason for the X name was to recognize the 10th anniversary. Although, I read somewhere they wanted that phone out 1 year earlier to recognize the 10th generation. Long story short (like my ultimate point) the numbers in the iPhone names don't mean anything. It's all just marketing.

[@KennyShedlesky]

The “2G” And “3G” Stands for 2G =0.0705 oz 2nd Generation 3G =0.106 oz 3rd Generation This Comment By The Sinchie Co-operation.

[@Mathewpro246]

iPhone 14 should’ve beeen could iPhone 13s

[@Pheicou]

I wish all apple devices were named: “product, product Pro, product SE” and just specifying the size or generation separately like in MacBooks, I don’t think the naming “Air” works anymore.

[@Mmm.GrilledCheese]

Air refers to the device that is the thinnest and lightest in the lineup (hence, AIR). Although that’s confusing for the iPads cuz the latest Pros are lighter??

[@Pheicou]

@@Mmm.GrilledCheese yeah especially because seems like many apple products are becoming thinner.

[@Momnadruedee]

IPHONE 14 PRO

[@ThunderHOWL16]

iConfused.

[@HarrowwInk]

iphone 9 was skipped for the same reason windows 9 was

[@danialeddie]

7 ate 9

[@Malek_Mations]

Incase I didn't see that comment, because 7 ate 9 I dont know if someone already did that comment but i thought of that before clicking

[@bucket_hatted]

well here's a short answer to the iphone 9 being missing: 7 ate 9.

[@SuperDude-p]

I think the iPhone 9 would be the x because the xs is basically the same but it has better performance

[@Muhfariztopvideosshortsstats08]

Ok, I’m so fast since 2017 🤦‍♂️

[@themoonalight]

i HATE the way iPads are named, they can stick with the iPhones naming scheme, but no, I have to confuse people (and also myself) with how the new iPad 10th Gen, isn't better than the iPad Pro (gen something) iPad 1, iPad 2, iPad 3 and so on would be MUCH better than whatever companies are doing with unlabeled tech products. Ex. iPad 10 Pro iPad 10 Air iPad 10 iPad 10 Mini

[@randomKid_whoLovesRamen_Xd]

no windows 9 on iphone 9.. but apple stole windows idea to cout their windows versions

[@ALEXY2.0]

At least their names are better than samsung names

[@Mikelaxo]

@@ALEXY2.0 Samsung just had a lot of different line ups, but for the mainstream phones the naming was pretty consistent until they decided to skip from 10 to 20 to match the year, and then it's been consistant again since then

[@Stupranos]

The SE originally meant for Special Edition. SE was meant to be older design with newer chip. Based on the Watch SE and rumors of the SE 4 I say SE should stand for Simplified Edition.

[@nickbradley]

😂 fair point

[@enescoban6359]

love your conten👍 need a videoabout iphone mini series 😬😬

[@nickbradley]

I'll add it to the list! I love the iPhone mini

[@mindthegapplease3840]

Xbox, Xbox 360, Xbox One, Xbox One S, Xbox One X ,Xbox Series X, Xbox Series S.

[@MaximizationDF]

Overall, I think this is a pretty solid video that clearly defines your point in an effective manner, though I don't agree with some of the claims here. To preface, I think all of it is arbitrary to begin with, better phones are better no matter what they're called, but I think the checklist for an 's' phone is pretty arbitrary and shouldn't apply to the 12 and the 14 like you said they should. All the items listed in this checklist are just, having incremental improvements to the previous model while not changing the form factor. You could claim that they should be new generations, and maybe they should, but I think it compares well to the release cycle of something like the PlayStation consoles. What's the difference between a new generation of ps consoles and a mid-cycle refresh? both show incremental improvements over the previous model and have support for more features. The only difference is that the mid-cycle refresh is compatible with the previous model's games. EXCEPT that for modern generations of these consoles, the new generation is also "backwards compatible" with the previous generation! You could argue that, for the first decade or so of the iPhone's life, they did 2 year release cycles with mid-cycle refreshes in between generations. Also, aligning the iPhone naming scheme with the rest of apple's lineup is a supremely bad idea. People already get confused with differentiating those products based on just their release year, and it's more difficult to find accessories and parts for older generations because of this. I'd like to note that it's not impossible, just more difficult, which confuses non-tech people and is harmful for the market.

[@nickbradley]

Thank you so much for your comment! I do agree this is kind of arbitrary. But as I point out, a lot of people see "iPhone 16" and they think "16th iPhone," '16th gen," or "16 years" and none of those are true. The video game console comment is one of the tougher ones for me to address, and I do plan on making a video about this eventually. But essentially smartphone and video game consoles generations are different. This is why (technically speaking) the iPhone 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and 2022 SE are all part of the same (15th) generation. The 13 isn't building upon (or as advanced) as the 12 Pro Max, and yet, the 13 is part of a newer generation. And that's a very solid point about accessories, and not being able to tell the different models apart. I do think at some point, something has to give. Perhaps iPhones get cannibalized by AR products or something else, but I have a hard time imagining names likes "iPhone 29" and "iPhone 36" unless they're the release year like Samsung does. Maybe after the iPhone 17 models (19th gen), they can jump right to iPhone XX (20) and everything will be right with the world again. 😅

[@darijoe1]

I am genuinely surprised by how many people misremember the name of the 1st generation as "iPhone 2G". Sure it was an iPhone with 2G connectivity, but it was never called the iPhone 2G! And besides which, why would Apple call their first iPhone anything other than just that - iPhone?

[@nickbradley]

“Today, we’re going to reinvent the phone…and we’re calling it…iPhone 2G.” - Steve Jobs

[@Eliplaysgames6921]

2:57 it’s XR, iPhone X, iPhone XS, IPhone XR

[@marilupacheco1112]

that aint exist anymore.

[@BobMcBurger1]

And this point, I don’t fully care about the name. It’s just a name. Even if it’s all messed up because of the “s” aspect, it doesn’t change what the phone itself is.

[@Cosmic-Irfan]

The only thing that does not make sense is the concept of what we know as iPhone today. Like, what edge does it have over anything else? At the features it offers at its price, I would rather get a Nokia 3310. I, an heterosexual man that is an asian and a muslim, would see myself marrying a homosexual male before willingly owning an iphone.

[@mindthegapplease3840]

Playstation 1, Playstation 2, Playstation 2 Slim, Playstation 3, Playstation 3 Slim, Playstation 3 Super Slim, Playstation 4 (2-Deck), Playstation 4 Pro 4K (3-Deck), Playstation 5, Playstation 5 Pro.

[@kingdeespadas]

ps5 pro 😭

[@CruzGame1]

It’s not called the iPhone nine it’s called an se idk lol

[@LightslicerGP]

What songs were used in this video? They sound amazing We win - Lucas got lucky, is one song I found on the playlist in the description

[@nickbradley]

@@LightslicerGP I actually looped that song throughout the whole video. The only other song I used a little bit of during the intro is Replica (Instrumental version) - I’MIN

[@LightslicerGP]

Ahhh, thank you!

[@jjcoolaus]

The iPhone 14 also brouhht ue emergency SOS via satellite, a fewsture aleeary credited with saving lives

[@MotoNORMative]

Don’t forget how the iPad Air is no longer the thinnest or lightest iPad model. Its name makes zero sense now. It should be iPad mini, iPad, iPad SE(Student Edition) and iPad Pro

[@nickbradley]

@@MotoNORMative Good point! 😅

[@imluctor5997]

stop saying iphone iphone apple apple. Have you looked at samsungs naming scemes?

[@tutacat]

Actually iPhone 14 is a new generation because it is now repairable (the base model)

[@lizziecardy4160]

Apple copied me because I made the RPhone in 2006 and Apple made the iPhone in 2007

[@jhop.official]

Apple just hates the number 9

[@BrightMoon2.0]

Looks like I'm not getting the iphone 17 in 2026 when I'm 16 I'm getting the iphone 19.

[@GoldCoiny]

imo the iphone x is the 9 and the xr is tbe real 10

[@BuilderDoge]

Ngl id does not make sense but even though I use Samsung it's kinda complicated

[@SamiSaba2]

6:36 which they called the latest pro “M4” and the latest air “M2” so this is a new naming scheme for the iPads

[@Funrollercoaster606]

They all make sense. You just don't see it right. The S and C models are different variants, not new generations. (9 is not there because of a decade thing, ok?)

[@nickbradley]

Why have they given up on the S naming scheme though? Why is the 5 and 5S one generation, but the 12, 13, and 14 are 3 generations?

[@mintybudgie]

they probably just made the x in 2017 because of the og iphone in 2007????

[@OfficialRaccoons]

Here’s the name of every iPhone model made. iPhone/iPhone 1/iPhone 2G iPhone 3G iPhone 3GS iPhone 4 iPhone 4s iPhone 5 iPhone 5c/iPhone 5 Color iPhone 5s iPhone 6 iPhone 6 Plus iPhone 6s iPhone 6s Plus iPhone SE iPhone 7 iPhone 7 Plus iPhone 8 iPhone 8 Plus iPhone X/iPhone 10 iPhone XR/iPhone 10R/iPhone 10 Remastered iPhone XS iPhone XS Max iPhone 11 iPhone 11 Pro iPhone 11 Pro Max iPhone SE 2020/iPhone SE 2/iPhone SE 2nd Generation iPhone 12 iPhone 12 Mini iPhone 12 Pro iPhone 12 Pro Max iPhone 13 iPhone 13 Pro iPhone 13 Pro Max iPhone 14 (2022, Surprisingly) iPhone 14 Plus iPhone 14 Pro iPhone 14 Pro Max iPhone SE 2022/iPhone SE 3/iPhone SE 3rd Generation iPhone 15 (One Year Ago, Surprisingly) iPhone 15 Plus iPhone 15 Pro iPhone 15 Pro Max If you need help again, let me know!

[@nickbradley]

@@OfficialRaccoons I’m well aware 😅 You actually missed one! iPhone 13 mini

[@jayjayare]

apple having abt 3 redesigns as of now is just apple

[@Redplaiz]

Switch to android (samsung)😎

[@Katman_Music]

Windows, Apple, who’s next?

[@jayc.landgraf6828]

For iPhones I generally just use the iOS version that every iPhone came with when it first came out. The iPhone 4 (4th gen iPhone) came out with iOS 4 (which means it is the *actual* iPhone 4), which means the iPhone 4S =iPhone 5, therefore: iPhone 5 = Real iPhone 6 iPhone 5S/5C = Real iPhone 7/7C iPhone 6/6+ = Real iPhone 8/8+ iPhone 6S/6S+ = Real iPhone 9/9+ iPhone 7/7+ = Real iPhone X/X+ iPhone 8/8+/X = Real iPhone 11 (They only used the "X" branding since it came out in 2017, 10 years after the OG iPhone) iPhone XR/XS/XS Max = Real iPhone 12R/12/12 Max iPhone 11/11 Pro/11 Pro Max = Real iPhone 13/13 Pro/13 Pro Max iPhone 12/12 Pro/12 Pro Max/12 Mini = Real iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/14 Mini iPhone 13/13 Pro/13 Pro Max/13 Mini = Real iPhone 15/15 Pro/15 Pro Max/15 Mini iPhone 14/14 Pro/14 Pro Max/14 Plus = Real iPhone 16/16 Pro/16 Pro Max/16 Plus iPhone 15/15 Pro/15 Pro Max/15 Plus = Real iPhone 17/17 Plus/17 Pro Max/17 Plus

[@nickbradley]

This also applies to the SE phones, since they're a part of the existing generation/iOS when they're released. So the iPhone 13, 13 mini, 13 Pro, 13 Pro Max, and 2022 SE are all part of the 15th generation.

[@SonicCoolFanLuke]

Nah Seven ate nine

[@VASNKATA]

You sound like ai voice

[@JoelPonce-n1x]

I think the iPhone 9 it’s gone because 789

[@SosgamingYT1]

Apple names names generations by models. Like the. 6s and 6? Call them the iphone 6 models, means that the S arent gens their just models of the previous phone but when did android make 23 normal phones? Yeah i dont know if you count all their products- In general before iphone 10 the iphone naming system is very confusing in all all products or atleast most naming schemes are just sooo confusing

[@HelloScratch]

You forgot the iphone 5c.

[@nickbradley]

I've got a video dedicated to the 5C to make up for it

[@BILLY_HELP]

1234567890 is qwertyuiop in letters on a keyboard

[@KozenaDrzka]

7 ate 9

[@stevens8744]

This makes me want to know, what iphones have you had? Ive had; 3GS, 5S, SE, 11 Pro, 14 Pro (current)

[@nickbradley]

Very nice! And thanks for asking. I’ve had a 5, 6 Plus, 7 Plus, 12 Pro Max, and now a 15 Pro. Went with the smaller size finally, and I’ve really enjoyed it. But I also joined Apple’s iPhone Upgrade Program went I got the 15 Pro - so there’s a good chance I’ll be upgrading to one of the 16 models 😅

[@warrhythm3741]

why was iphone 9 gone? because 7 ate 9.

[@249cubegame]

How about this 17Gen 15 18Gen 16 19Gen 17 20Gen 18 21Gen 19/XX (20) No 21 22Gen 22 I made this last year

[@nickbradley]

Hmm, I’d be okay with that. But hopefully they fix it either sooner, or abandon the numbers all together

[@Notcontext_vr]

Because 7 8 9 HAHA

[@jesusisloved888]

The New iPhone 16 = iPhone 18

[@TropicsTayxo]

They’re are no iPhone 9 because 789 (7 ate 9)

[@nickbradley]

ayoo!

[@jesusisloved888]

The New iPhone 16=iPhone 18

[@Luksss40]

So like iPhone 15, iPhone 15 pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max is like a flagship, budget and etc... right?

[@nickbradley]

Yes!

[@michele_]

Been saying this for a long time

[@Blazing_Ninja]

We don’t talk about the android numbering system…

[@JaredMalabarbas]

It's because 7 (8/ate) nine

[@YOH_MUSIC]

7 ate it