IRON EAGLE II (1988) - Mover Ruins Movies

Fighter Pilot (F-16 and F/A-18) reacts to the 1988 film IRON EAGLE II starring the F-16, F-4, and Louis Gossett, Jr. MOVER RUINS MOVIES
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[@wastedapathy22]

“The pride of mother Russia!” The McDonnell-Douglas F-4E Phantom II, built in St. Louis, MO...

[@bigmos187]

Lol

[@orlock20]

That's the Chinese copy-- the J-4E. That's why Mover kept getting confused about the instrumentation.

[@zerofire3172]

The Mig 4E

[@rideroftheapocalypse1150]

@@orlock20 never heard of it

[@orlock20]

@@rideroftheapocalypse1150 That's because they are for TV shows and movies only and often gets called different names in the script.

[@noahgrove2046]

F-4 = MiG 29. That physically hurt me to hear and look at.

[@deanboy2416]

as a Russian, I feel your pain, and then some...

[@JoshuaC0rbit]

Yeah even as a kid I knew this was wrong. But I can't complain about watching two of my favorite air frames in action sequences even if one of them has a hammer and sickle on it. LOL

[@amm0nition406]

lmao, I'm dying inside at this.

[@mactac25]

No worse than Kfirs as MiG-23s in the first one.

[@265justy]

Well ..how could film producers get their hands on real Migs in the 80s. We had F-5s as Mig-28s that never existed in TopGun also.. It could never have happened before the Cold war ended. Today ...it could be done..id just love to know what are going to be used as the enemy aircraft in TopGun 2...any ideas ...

[@g0wfv]

"There's no such thing as a stupid question, just stupid people who ask questions!" Dude you make me cry!

[@EricaCalman]

The only stupid questions are the ones by "that guy" who doesn't ask because they want the answer but because they want to seem clever by asking a clever question like "professor, have you you ever heard of ____?"

[@lismarrodriguez187]

That is fucking hilarious.

[@TheModelGuy]

It’s painful to sit in a conference with other officers asking the same stupid question but wording it differently. Thankfully a LCOL who used to be a para started telling people to shut the fuck up

[@fireforeffect1979]

"The Viper would smoke an F-4." Not an F-4 that was upgraded to a Mig-29!

[@djviperx]

And specially if the F4 was using R27 missiles 😆😆

[@s4cells4cell7]

To be fair f4 can smoke anything. The engines at least.

[@iansmith5174]

The Phantoms had them outnumbered two to one.

[@SmartassX1]

An F-4 equipped with AK-47s can take down an F-35, if it has a tough enough pilot, brought back from the reserve.

[@Hairysteed]

@@SmartassX1 The ultimate blyatmobile!

[@aj3751]

"Sir, please get off the ramp when it's lowering" LOL

[@Alvi410]

They should’ve called those MiG-26 To keep the movie terminology in line.

[@Alvi410]

@@SlippinLaudna Mhh... a lot like your right arm after you met grey fox... not particularly well. Like me after all. Being honest. Afterlife is pretty boring. Still waiting to be back in a HD remake tough.

[@512Mavlor]

LMAO when the F-4s fired their Guns and it looked all cheesy with a massive barrel flame and Mover says...."What was that? An AK-47..." LOL

[@FirstDagger]

Yeah especially since they used an F-16 gunport, which that strange barrel flame.

[@callsignvibe]

The sound is from an ak 47 I bet! At least it sounded like that to me too!

[@lordrahl2.034]

I just assumed that it was the F16s firing and maybe they had rear mounted guns or something in this film 😂

[@MythicFrost]

Gsh 30-1 on mig-29 is rather slow firing compared to Vulcan =)

[@shdwmav]

Hey, they shot a missile into the thermal exhaust port after flying down a canyon, chased by enemy fighters! I think I saw that move in another documentary about flying somewhere a long, long time ago.

[@Love2Cruise]

Shot by a farm boy from a desert town far, far away.

[@DarthPaddius]

@@Love2Cruise Yup, just like beggars canyon back home!

[@nikelinq2899]

....In a galaxy far far away

[@NeSeeger]

That was just rebel propaganda.

[@brandony8691]

Mover should ruin Star Wars. "Yeah, I'm sorry, everyone knows those X-wings can't take off vertically." "Red 5 going in? Yeah, that's not a com." "So this Red 5 guy shoots a laser ball that curves down a shaft and detonates this planet-sized space station that can destroy other planets? Well, that's actually one thing Hollywood got right finally."

[@CanuckFlyer]

I used to fly with the Visual Effect coordinator on this movie. He told me crazy stories of them filming in Israel, getting aerial footage from the back of F-16's and F-4's. He said it was a disorganized mess of a movie shoot, but the most fun he'd ever had on set. Inspired him to get his PPL, now he's got an immaculate J-3 Cub.

[@dougmasters4579]

Not surprising to hear haha. The aerial footage in this film is every bit as impressive as Top Gun's, perhaps moreso.

[@SupaMan2122]

Do you know why they avoid using the sound of 20mm?

[@CruelestChris]

That stock "jet whoosh" sound from the old He-Man cartoon really got a work-out here.

[@LIKWID]

"He said something in Russian, that's authentic" absolutely cracked me up lmao!!

[@ughettapbacon]

I always admired this franchise for its ability to completely ignore reason, logic, psychics, and continuity to bring us these cinematic marvels. If you haven't seen the third instalment yet just strap in.

[@jamesmann3158]

Flight of the intruder and Firefox. Two classics that won’t disappoint.

[@robb3743]

Love the rail riding in Firefox... lol

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

When "Hot Shots" is a more accurate depiction of air combat, you know you've got problems. And speaking of "Hot Shots", when is Mover going to ruin it?

[@helifanodobezanozi7689]

@@GhostWatcher2024 Thanks, I noticed a few days ago. (It's great that he got around to it about 2 months after I posted that comment.)

[@SupaMan2122]

So they train with Russians then fight them? 🧐

[@Trigger11]

You can hear the pain in his voice when he introduces the movie.

[@kyle857]

Trying to pass off an F-4 For a Mig is just amazing.

[@rocketpunchgo1]

"Maintenance is going to be pissed though, purposely over-g'ing the jet!" This man speaks the truth!

[@Durahawk]

"He's trying to maneuver up my ass" Good lord, the overheards in this movie are legendary.

[@julianmaissel3660]

"I have one Maverick left" *cut to two vipers each with two Mavericks

[@The_Radio_Check]

At least Top Gun had the decency to turn the F5 into a fictional A/C Was physically hurt when they called the F-4 a Mig-29 *Disclaimer, not sure when the actual mig-29 came out

[@theussmirage]

The MiG-29 first flew 11 years before Iron Eagle 2 was released!

[@MythicFrost]

First flight of Mig-29 was 6 October 1977 .

[@spacejamsham2440]

I also like how they chose one of the most distinctive fighters ever and called it a MiG, at least you could pass a F-5 as something else if it’s from a distance

[@cliffdixon6422]

The Iron Eagle movies come under the heading 'so bad they are good' - remember seeing this one when it came out on video and laughing at F-4s being called MiGs. Mind you, if you think this is bad, wait until you get to No 3 - Christopher Cazenove playing the suave Brit hanging out of a Spitfire cockpit with a shotgun, rocket boosters on a P38 and the most hilarious German Wunderwaffe you have ever seen. Worth drinking before watching. Agree with a lot of the guys on here, you have to do The Final Countdown if only for the F14 vs Zero segment

[@xacefuryx7693]

the me-263 in iron eagle 3 is a real aircraft called the Scaled Composites ARES also really carries a 25mm vulcan cannon

[@DoomDwaneCat]

I know this is a year old but the fourth is hilarious. A piston engine plane destroyed an f16 with 50 caliber rounds.

[@Hypernefelos]

I remember watching it when I was 10 or so, and I was laughing uncontrollably when that gatling gun started firing at a rate of one per second.

[@WriterBryan]

You left out my favorite part; almost got to it, too! Chappie: "If we get back to the states, I got to show you some stuff." Russian Col. "No way, I hear in America, they shoot communist's in the streets." Chappie: "Are you kidding?! In Detroit, my home town -- they shoot EVERYBODY in the streets!" ROFL

[@kempet]

Best scene in the movie!

[@WriterBryan]

@@kempet Agreed. It's funny how the best scenes in any movie don't revolve around the result of the highest budget moments, but rather, the moments performed by actors in their zone.

[@bobbyscalchi4013]

Nower days they elect communist to congress and even the presidency

[@SupaMan2122]

And that was when it was safer

[@thethomasj1795]

Not much has changed in Detriot. Even pulling the fences of the city limits in like it was a baseball field didn't help.

[@feuervogerl8093]

I know you really like the F-16, but for me the F-4 Phantom II was one of the most beautiful planes ever built! (right after the TU-95 Bear :P )

[@GabrielTAsher]

This is like Mystery Science Theater but with fighter jet movies. Love it.

[@Void304]

I have no idea how many Iron Eagle movies there are, but you might as well continue and "ruin" them all. Also, the battle cry of Cobra-La at 6:00 was totally unexpected. Choked on my coffee a little bit. Great stuff, Mover.

[@antrillion]

There is a third... I'm both scared and excited if he'll ruin that. Lol

[@Whiskey11Gaming]

@@antrillion its also the best one with WWII war birds! :)

[@bouncebynum]

There are four...each one getting progressively more hilariously bad. Mover needs to ruin all of them!

[@gabravo2005]

@@Whiskey11Gaming I remember driving near downtown with my parents one day and saw Chappie's Jeep Cherokee being pulled while they filmed a scene.

[@antrillion]

@@bouncebynum omg... They made a fourth?! After the third I thought they were definitely done....The worst part is... Now I've got to find and watch it! :D

[@ArcherUBW]

Hey Mover, any chance of doing The Final Countdown? Tomcats vs A6M Zeros!

[@LordKegger76]

I recommended that he do that movie, too.

[@evancrum6811]

YES

[@tsangarisjohn]

I second the recommendation!!!! TOMCATS 😎🇺🇸

[@CTFD13]

TOMCATS!

[@Mike_delta80]

He wont do it because you can't ruin perfection.

[@joerhodes213]

"That's wat she said" "Also what she said"...😂😂😂

[@abcortani]

Flight of the Intruder.

[@bouncebynum]

Yes please.

[@USNRaptor]

Flight of the Intruder is too good for him to ruin.

[@MythicFrost]

Yes, Flight Of the Intruder =)

[@scooterdogg7580]

bat 21

[@brianwright9514]

Yesss! I love the A-6!

[@tomfrank8689]

RE: Independence Day... "Another documentary!" Classic stuff!!

[@PassportBrosBusinessClass]

I'm 39. When I saw these movies originally, I absolutely believed all this shit was real LOL.

[@Griswaldization]

Same here my dude!!🍺🙌

[@cjjenson8212]

As a child of the 80s, I loved iron eagle! Especially the line "Ronny Raygun" Never did see this one so I'll sit in with ya and laugh!

[@F5Storm1]

"Its too tight" "thats what she said " lol

[@ptitza]

Russian insignia on the phantomskis is just hillarious

[@jaydenwilliams6885]

I like that Mover pointed out that the General character puts on his cover indoors at 7:23. That’s a thing in movies that really bothers me.

[@Doubleelforbes]

Who's there? Too Wide! Too Wide Who? Two ....... why'd you let us over-G into Soviet Airspace before engaging with them?! Ahh you beat me to it with the Darkstar! I guess it must be next to impossible to pull up when you've been using your stick as a throttle, and even harder when you cut the throttle pulling up. Only Vipers I saw with that throttle config came out of a Battlestar! "Violated his airspace" ….. is that a So To Speak ? …. Oh my god they keep getting worse! I would be curious to your take on Stargate: Continuum's F-15 scene, though not sure if you'll get a full video out of it. I guess you could try to cram in some series details as I understand the Air Force took particular interest in this franchise. I definitely had Stargate's Kinsey in mind when I was reading your Kerry Johnson character. I mean you denied flat earth, chemtrails and aliens but I never heard you once deny the Stargate program exists. That's gotta mean it exists ….. right? .... huh? One more thought amidst this pulp of "idiot thinks aloud", and I wanna straighten up the face a bit before I say it : I just wanted to send some sincerely good thoughts on this Veteran's / Remembrance day. Here's to you and your awesome mates, especially the ones we'll never get the honour to see or hear from.

[@walt2840]

I thought the cassette tapes in the cockpit were absolutely absurd. The in Desert Storm, Comm Shop whipped up Y cords for the pilots and all our F-117's were music capable. AC/DC into the target and Berlin on egress. Oh yeah, Country during the launch.

[@BiBh375]

16:27 "You violated his airspace" he's referring to the beginning of the film when they killed Doug

[@matthewamendt7530]

"Sir, please get off the ramp while it's lowering" lol, so right

[@N224DW]

"She can't be in your jetwash! She was in front of him!" "He went idle to pull up?" The one line reactions are gold I was dying 😭

[@yolkiandeji7649]

Someone gets too close to me at the store I’m saying they violated my airspace

[@yxeaviationphotog]

Bubble violation!!

[@kyle857]

I had a hard time feeling bad for that Viper pilot who couldn't reverse on an F-4 Phantom.

[@RDU8468]

Man we are cut from the same cloth. I used to pick apart these movies all the time. Get's on my wife's nerves. I could go all day.......so to speak!

[@heinrichjannasch8768]

This movie was already ruined without Mover even saying anything... Gosh... How many mistakes can a person make in one movie...😱

[@chriscubbernuss3288]

If they don't salute, how are us civilians supposed to know they are in the military? Your responses are awesome! Thank you for the hard work and dedication in your career.

[@bessarion1771]

"this is how Goose died." The funniest thing I've heard all week. I have to confess - I actually paid money to see this crap in a movie theater...And your facial expression at 25:20 is exactly how I look after watching most movies involving sailing (except for "Captain Ron and "Wind"). I feel your pain.

[@andresilvasophisma]

Can't wait for the next episode of Mover Ruins Car Dealerships.

[@NightRaptor]

Love you doing these sir. Terminator Salvation: A10s. Stargate Continuum: F15s. The Final Countdown: F14s & Japanese Zeros. Godzilla: King of the Monsters: F35s & V22s. Man of Steel: A10s & F35s. Live Free or Die Hard: F35. True Lies: Harriers. Hulk: F22s. X2 (X-Men2): F16s.

[@yashasvihanda6516]

I love it when he says "G-FORCE HAHAHAH IN THE MIDDLE OF THE HUD" 😂

[@rocnoir4233]

And they made two more of these steamers. How Doug survived that explosion to appear in IE IV is beyond me.

[@writingref]

He survived? Wut?

[@dannyr2976]

@@writingref Yep, turns out he managed to eject and held captive, Doug was played by a different actor. _'Never say die! Iron Eagle...!'_

[@owlsayssouth]

lets not talk about Iron Eagle 4, please. the first three are fun films. lets just leave it at that.

[@CoffeeMatt10]

They did Doug dirty in this, he goes from cocky, fearless 18 year old that defeats a Middle Eastern Ace while rescuing his dad, to a man that panics at the first sign of danger and gets himself killed.

[@dougmasters4579]

True, but the actor from the first Iron Eagle was supposed to play the part of Matt Cooper in this film. He refused, so they had him play a guy who gets killed off.

[@jc-hf1bk]

NICE, can't wait for the true lies reaction

[@CWLemoine]

It's in copyright jail at least until the end of the month.

[@thef-35lockheedmartinlight11]

@@CWLemoine F

[@markocoric9233]

@@CWLemoine mover review movie hot shots

[@justinh4393]

@@CWLemoine can you do flight of the intruder as well?

[@bongobrandy6297]

He said....... Pickle Down! Goose Down is acompletely different feather.

[@saulnavarro4730]

I do like fighter jets

[@zachjackson8260]

me too

[@aviationandotherstuff6571]

Sam here

[@jackthorton10]

The winged metal eagles of the sky

[@behindthen0thing]

Me too

[@behindthen0thing]

Ме тоо

[@keystone24pd]

I second doing a “Mover Ruins Movies” with “Straight into the Sun” great viper footage!

[@kencramer2232]

Mover you’ve such a great sense of ( dry ) humour & are thoroughly entertaining. Thankyou for taking the time to share you’re experiences. We mortals have the utmost respect for your accomplishments. Any more strange or unique situations eg. the lightning strike. Thank you

[@EvolvedTactical]

It's said that with a big enough engine, even a brick could be made to fly. And the Phantom needed 2 of them. But I seriously love the look of the Phantom. Cold War cool.

[@nathanwilliams2152]

It wasn’t a patch on the English Electric Lightning, but not sure how bad it was compared to the F-104 Starfighter

[@texasknight5175]

The four star with the classified material is Angel from the Rockford Files.

[@carinhall4508]

OMG, thank you. I was going crazy trying to remember who he was

[@EDCandLace]

TOMCATS

[@cripplehawk]

MiG 29 in Iron Eagle 2 An F-4 Phantom that identifies itself as a MiG 29 ,with an internal AK47 cannon that fires 7.62x39mm..... love it....

[@sergeysabre7281]

Watching this movie I have a huge nostalgia for Star Wars ep. 4. New hope.

[@sparrowlt]

25:30 that was actually a point i liked about this movie.. the mission is entirelly so they can take out the silo without bombing the area wich would cause a lot of collateral damage to civilians in the enemy side.. both goberments want to drop a nuclear attack on that bunker base .. the russian general finds out and tells Sinclaire that it will kill a los civilians in a large area arround the target.. so they decide to proceed with the mission in order to save those Civilians even when they are in the enemy country.. those missiles were never going to fly out of that bunker.. american and russians civilians were safe and allways were.. the entire thing was to save "enemy" civilians.. and thats one of the little things i apreciated in this plot.. Americans and Russians fighting together in order to save irani civilians

[@wiljam1968]

At 17 minutes, that shot of the gear coming off the ground was of the camera Lear 25 I have a lot of time in as a camera plane pilot. Mover, this was real entertaining!

[@V4zz33]

Haha, funny to see this after more than 20 years and watching it over 30 times as a kid...

[@markosporn8315]

That "hi speed" cannon looks like good ol' hand operated gatling gun with one lazy guy turning that handle 😜

[@ParasiteQueen1]

"We're good. Act of war. But we're BINGO, so we're going home."

[@AskingA18]

This is the movie that made me fall in love with the F-16

[@whalehands4779]

I want a shirt of "TOMCATS!!!". I don't know why but every time you say it, cracks me up.

[@BZoli7]

Hi Mover! Honestly, it was my favourite aviation movie and I watched it a hundred times...decades ago, when I was a child. Now, at the age of 43 I can say thank you for ruining Iron Eagle 2. You're absolutely right: it really is horrible! :))) Greetings from Hungary!

[@brunodavidferreira5781]

In the 90's this movie passo até the Brazilian television every week at night...iwas a kid and dreming a Lot with the Phantom's

[@roadhammer2380]

That's so awesome that you did my request and I knew dang well that those were F4s. Thank you for your service.

[@pdc.1508RedDevil.]

I love when you do this to these movies. Makes me laugh every time outstanding thank you.

[@EvolvedTactical]

Still waiting on Flight of the Intruder....

[@Martinh-de7or]

The Final Countdown two F 14 vs two zeros would be great mover .

[@bionicsjw]

By far my favorite series of videos. Love them. FYI, I've enjoyed the books bought during the lockdowns. I laughed the whole way through.

[@hoyle7780]

Happy Veterans day (Late) Mr. Lemoine! Thanks for your service, and for the laughs I needed em today

[@friendofenkidu3391]

USAF aircraft tail code "BA" is for Bergstrom AFB near Austin, Texas, which closed in 1993.

[@johnosbourn4312]

You're right, because that base was home to the 67th Recon Wing, flying RF-4C Phantoms.

[@evancrum6811]

Love Mover Ruins Movies. Final Countdown would be great!

[@kennethfrickey4087]

Best one yet C.W. Lemoine. The sarcasm was perfect and expertly placed.

[@Tertius_Oculus]

I remember I was in shock as a kid after I found out, that these MiG's were F-4's from the U.S. ... I needed to get used to it for a long time. I mainly watched this movie for the visuals back in the day (while playing Interceptor on AMIGA because it had the Hornet and the Viper as well).

[@areasevenpro]

Top Gun: Maverick clearly ripped off this movie.

[@martinnickell2883]

So... now 10g and Mach 10 are interchangeable?

[@FirstDagger]

16:50 "Travel pod" Aren't those the early racks for training bombs?

[@ti1ion]

Damn you! You beat me to it. Those are multiple ejector racks for the 25-pound practice bombs. 8^) And yes, I am sorry for being a nerd.

[@lumpy8223]

You should do Blue Thunder for a Mover Ruins Movies episode. Hi tech helicopter prototype vs. a pair of Vipers. Classic 80s movie!

[@AZFlyingCook]

This one made me laugh the most out of all your "Mover Ruins Movies" I've watched! I never served but I still pick up on a bit more than half of what you did and I do that all the danged time. Being a pilot has ruined a bunch of movies for me. If we ever get the chance to meet in person, I promise I'll try to remember to say, "Can I ask you a stupid question?"

[@JetDom767]

"It's too tight!" "That's what she said" "It's too tight" "That's also what she said" Pahahahaahaha

[@L0r0x_o]

When I was a kid I saw Top Gun before I saw these and I just remember being so very disappointed with them compared to Top Gun. That kind of disappointment stays with you!

[@Whiskey11Gaming]

It also doesn't help that the F14 is at least 9 billion times sexier than the F16.

[@L0r0x_o]

@@Whiskey11Gaming wings swept and armed to the teeth with phoenix and their smaller friends. Just mean lookin, ready to give Ivan a beating. And The F16 is OK I guess., we all know the modern F-16 are much much better than the F14 but even Mover shouts TOMCATS! Everytime the F-14 is mentioned and he actually flew the Viper!

[@morganghetti]

I can remember just heading to the bathroom in the squadron building and a 4 star standing there taking a "highly classified" briefing by the water fountain.

[@bryanferguson1160]

I love listening to mover talking and learning from him his hard talk cockiness brass of superiority larger than life ego call it what you will you can tell he is a real fighter pilot

[@AC4ace]

0:42, How far West of Anchorage, Alaska did they drift to hit Soviet Airspace?

[@Anaximander29A]

Lol, this is the MST-3000 for aviation fans. ^^

[@anthonyhershko]

Great review Sir! A little bit info on this movie, (Great one!) This movie was filmed at Ramat David airbase Israel. Those F-4s was belonged to squadron 69th "The Hammers", since 1998 they moved to the south and their operating F-15I (It's an F-15E with homemade modifications). Those F-16s was belonged to squadron 110th "Knights of The North", The squadron was deactivated in 2017.

[@charlesormond964]

Good commentary, Mover....so to speak, LOL Thank you for the video!!!

[@ShawnHinck]

“I only have one maverick left” clearly has 2 per....

[@BeechSportBill]

...I’ll put on the brakes and he’ll fly right by!

[@kempet]

Authentic or not - I used to love this as a kid, and just rewatched it after like 30 years and still had fun and a good time.. what more do you want from a movie?

[@SlippinLaudna]

This film is 100% my number 1 guilty pleasure

[@numbers111222]

Do airwolf (the movie pilot). I know its a helicopter but it flies mach 1 and can hold its own against any number of enemy jets!

[@agoodchristianpilot159]

Theres a second one? Don’t the air force know how to do a go around?

[@benwilmot3623]

Lol go navy

[@Barcodum]

There’s actually a third one if I remember right.

[@shawnwomack3446]

@@Barcodum There are four Iron Eagle movies. Doug Masters returns in the fourth one. What this movie doesn't show is that Doug didn't die, he was captured by the Russians and became a prisoner. This is revealed in Iron Eagle IV.

[@Barcodum]

@@shawnwomack3446 See now, I didn’t know about the fourth.

[@Whiskey11Gaming]

@@Barcodum Third was the best, warbirds from WWII!!!

[@johnp2110]

4:24 That's the most maneuverability I've ever personally seen from an F4

[@jayyoutube8790]

These are my favorite clips you do. It’s interesting to hear what you have to say about what’s going on in these movies. It’s kinda like a “behind the scenes” look at the movie.

[@Barcodum]

It’s not a movie but there are a few episodes of Stargate SG-1 I’d like to see you review.