So what’s worse: Being labeled as a “Forgotten Foe of Spider-Man” Or Being known as an Iron Man villain
@angel76614 жыл бұрын
Iron man villain, Spiderman is respected by villain community
@thedukeofchutney4684 жыл бұрын
Iron Man villain in continuity it’s almost considered a right of passage for villains to fight Spider-Man. With some even placing bets on wether or not a new villain could defeat the wall crawler, cause, “He always beats the new guys.” Being a forgotten Spider-Man villain is almost expected, being an Iron Man villain is just depressing.
@ethanrichmond39924 жыл бұрын
At least you get a pretty beloved Nick Spencer series if you're a forgotten Spidery villain.
@MWhaleK3 жыл бұрын
I think Porcupine started out as a Hank Pym Antman villain.
@F_lippy5 жыл бұрын
Ah, yes; the natural predators of Iron: intense heat. Intense cold. And whips.
@VerSA52373 жыл бұрын
Whips are the goblins of iron.
@NilFox5 жыл бұрын
"Why do they call him shell head?" *Looks over to original iron man helmet on shelf* Really Ethan? You don't know why?
@Grievousish5 жыл бұрын
You know a character has a lame rogues gallery when the villain of his most famous story is alcohol
@AiggEbe5 жыл бұрын
See also: Captain Marvel
@thomasarcanine5 жыл бұрын
I guess it's better than... Hal Jordan vs. The Yellow Billboard... 🤣🤣🤣
@kadeskelton97885 жыл бұрын
Hello there.
@wybub4 жыл бұрын
@@AiggEbe Which one? because DC's Captain Marvel has a cool af rogues galaxy.
@Grievousish4 жыл бұрын
@@darthekul1 I think technically the greek pantheon is canon in Marvel cause Hercules and Ares are a thing.
@comixproviderftw_025 жыл бұрын
Obediah Stane, Whiplash, Justin Hammer, Ghost, Madam Masque, The Mandarin... Enemies that challenged Tony Stark in more ways than one. But none of them could compare to Tony's greatest enemy of all... ALCOHOL!!!
@comixproviderftw_025 жыл бұрын
Don’t mess with B-Double O-Z-E... Cause that spells "Booze".
@funkyweapon19814 жыл бұрын
@@comixproviderftw_02 That sure spells boooooooooze!
@anutshell24263 жыл бұрын
Justin Hammer is literally why he starts to drink himself in the story. If Hammer didn't set up Iron Man, Stark wouldn't undergo stress and wouldn't resort to drinking. And anyone who have read John Byrne's run knows that there would be no Iron Man without the Mandarin.
@EHH2465 жыл бұрын
Fun fact about Jarvis’ resignation letter. The version you are using blotted out the contents but in the original issue, it was word for word Dave Cockrum’s resignation letter with some words replaced. It was basically how the Marvel offi- I mean the Avengers used to be fun to work at but now has degraded to petty squabbling.
@Redem105 жыл бұрын
Demon in the bottle AKA The story we wanted to do for Iron Man 2 than we figure out "Yeah we can't have overt alcoholism in our movies we market to children"
@HeStalksTheSwamps5 жыл бұрын
To clarify, Tony does relapse much harder during Denny O'Neil's run on IM in the early 80s, and I think that arc is far more compelling Tony outright loses his company, Rhodey becomes Iron Man for a few years and Tony becomes a straight up wino in the gutters I would recommend reading that after Demon in a Bottle (Recently collected in the Epic Collections 'The Enemy Within' + 'Duel of Iron')
@comicpop5 жыл бұрын
Actually
@OomaGooma4 жыл бұрын
I really like Denny O’Neil’s writing on Iron Man.
@anutshell24263 жыл бұрын
Stark was suicidal in his his run. That stuff was dark.
@thepanelbiter99155 жыл бұрын
Iron Man 2 had a lot of missed opportunities, Hammer being the most obvious one.
@danzigvssartre5 жыл бұрын
Does Tony Stark ever relapse? Yes, he does Sal. Issue 169 Tony relapses and James Rhodes takes over as Iron Man in issue 170. Tony’s fall and recovery takes place over a number of issues. Issue 169 was the first Iron Man comic I ever bought. Loved reading those issues as a kid!
@Zythrst5 жыл бұрын
Yay, I hope this means we'll get 'My ward is a junkie!' soon.
@joezilla66155 жыл бұрын
He drinks a Whiskey drink, he drinks a Vodka drink He drinks a Lager drink, he drinks a Cider drink He sings the songs that remind him of the good times He sings the songs that remind him of the best times (Oh Tony Boy, Tony Boy, Tony Boy)
@ItsOver9000Productions5 жыл бұрын
this is just like the days of futute past episode where the title story doesn't actually happen til like the last 10 minutes.
@comixproviderftw_025 жыл бұрын
We gotta get that long ass prologue
@MrPink-qf1xi5 жыл бұрын
Mann, Ethan is Killing it. I didn't laugh this much in a long time.
@JoshMunroe5 жыл бұрын
That slow pan at the end is one of the best things I've seen on this channel. Ethan's shaking laughter just out of frame is brilliant.
@comicsmisexplained5 жыл бұрын
Back to back Elseworlds and Back Issues is the best invention of 2019
@TheGotenza5 жыл бұрын
But it’s been that for a year now. It is great though.
@Tamaki7423 жыл бұрын
Everyone congratulating Tony on not drinking like NGE's last episode where everyone congratulated Shinji.
@adranaries90745 жыл бұрын
As a recovering alcoholic, I love this story line.
@marcushamner59945 жыл бұрын
Adran Aries This was why Robert Downey Jr played Stark so well. He too had hit rock bottom in real life.
@SeekerLancer3 жыл бұрын
@@Popcultureguy3000 The Denny O'Neil run is criminally underrated probably because it was highly controversial in its day. I'm kind of annoyed they didn't end the second Epic Collection book at Iron Man 200 since it's such an amazing conclusion to the Stane arc. I'd love to see them cover it here because it really deserves more attention, but I understand it's not a good fit for the format.
@roffstafarian5 жыл бұрын
Anything that references Gus Chiggins is automatically just the best #CinnamonAndGravy
@camarafairweather28385 жыл бұрын
It's an unconventional war, folks.
@R.J.Godzilla815 жыл бұрын
@1:11:45_Yeah that sounds like Jim Shooter era Marvel, LOL.
@batfreeze565 жыл бұрын
Wow, isn't this, like, only your second Iron Man story in the five years that you've done Back Issues? I'd love to see some more of these lesser recognized stories on the show.
@butchhartman15825 жыл бұрын
I love how Marvel exposed themselves by taking someone’s actual resignation letter and just omitting “Marvel” and replacing it with Avengers.
@alexandrefrauches1325 жыл бұрын
One of my favorites comics of all time. Demon in the bottle is for Iron Man what Born Again was for Daredevil or the Kid Who Collects Spider-Man was for Spidey, a story that not only is emotional and has great moments of the hero but also humanize Tony, showcasing his flaws, his fallen from grace and his struggle to rise up again. It's definitly one the best iron man stories ever made, and also one of the greatest comic book stories of all time.
@karsten1285 жыл бұрын
"Your welcome, b***h!" My new favorite ComicPoP quote.
@ShaneMcCravy0073 жыл бұрын
For real 🤣
@willmartinez16065 жыл бұрын
I laughed so much while watching this that my co workers ended up watching half this episode with me. Again nj represents.
@sundered_ant5 жыл бұрын
I always thought of the Porcupine as more of an Ant-Man villain personally, since he first appeared back in the 60's in an issue of Tales to Astonish (which Hank Pym was headlining at the time).
@wtfrocks86634 жыл бұрын
50:10 - Took this long to notice the Grace Kelly reference. Princess Grace is a reference to American actress Grace Kelly, who Married Prince Ranier and became a real princess of Monaco.
@michaelfox51355 жыл бұрын
One of the most emotional comics Marvel has ever put out
@captainvimes60795 жыл бұрын
Did someone downvote this before it was even an hour an fifteen minutes old?...what is this, The Orville?
@ItsOver9000Productions5 жыл бұрын
You've talked about this book so many times in the past i thought you'd already done it.
@Ayrton_Chitwood5 жыл бұрын
I read this about a month and a half ago, and I absolutely loved it. Plus, seeing the tangent released a while ago on facebook got me really excited to see this episode! Keep it up guys! And Happy Birthday Tiffany!
@MexicanCiudadano5 жыл бұрын
I love Sal's expression at 42:36
@101Mant5 жыл бұрын
I know Tony's alcoholism is referenced in some Avengers and Ms Marvel stories in reference to Carol Danver's alcoholism and him being her sponsor so presumably they both do AA. You know them both relapsing at the same time could explain Civil War II. Nothing else does.
@BBmetalhead045 жыл бұрын
This episode might go down as one of my favorite Back Issues for 2019.
@Just_Some_Guy_with_a_Mustache5 жыл бұрын
"Hey, there he is. The Iron Man. You love that armor, don't ya? You know what? Take the armor. Take his booze, too. All of them. And his ambassador. Take his ambassador. I took your stuff. How's that make you feel? Do you feel bad? Good. BECAUSE THAT'S HOW I FEEL!"
@treyurbach25505 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this one for years! Can't wait for Stark Wars!
@R.J.Godzilla815 жыл бұрын
Armor Wars is the only other Iron Man story I knew, besides Demon In A Bottle and Extremis. Two down, one to go, LOL.
@treyurbach25505 жыл бұрын
@@R.J.Godzilla81 is it Armor Wars or Stark Wars? Everywhere I look no one can decide.
@R.J.Godzilla815 жыл бұрын
@@treyurbach2550 I had always heard it referred to as The Armor Wars. That's even what the 90's animated called its 2-part episode based on that story. It's a good 2-parter, has a lot of b-list Iron Man villains.😄😉
@mitchellregan215 жыл бұрын
The Jarvis resignation at the end was hilarious!
@architeuthis34765 жыл бұрын
Man, John Romita Jr's art has _changed_ !
@jjrambles683Ай бұрын
He was basically just drawing roughs on this. Bob Layton was drawing all over his stuff.
@bigfest64985 жыл бұрын
Sal, I love your impersonations. Your drunk Ironman had me dying..."I'm gonna show this bitch all my Ironman stuff, introduce her to Captain America...you know Jarvis, why don't you just do your job". "Very well, Master Stark".😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@louurich90874 жыл бұрын
He does relapse, during Denny O'Neil's run. It is why Rhodey takes over. Cap gives him a speech about how his dad was an alcoholic, and he becomes a homeless wino for a few issues.
@sircasmanmarvellolover13235 жыл бұрын
Can we see Infamous Iron Man as a back issues soon?
@ToonGal125 жыл бұрын
For how much that "Demon in a Bottle" is touted as a semi-dark, serious story, this is arguably one of the funniest episodes of Back Issues I've heard in a while (then again, Sal and the gang play a large part of that). XD
@instantbadass5 жыл бұрын
Finally! Now just do Armor Wars.
@multifan16445 жыл бұрын
Great episode, Back Issues is amazing. By the way Masters of the Universe was originally a comic with the toys, but the show told a completely different story than the comics that came with the figures.
@OneJamalWonder5 жыл бұрын
I love the idea of Captain America wearing a vibranium alloy cup 😂
@chrisconcannon64905 жыл бұрын
The old dude who is overseeing the hacking of Tony's armor looks like Grand Moff Tarkin if he swapped lives with Hugh Hefner.
@joshbowman94815 жыл бұрын
There is officially so many episodes of back issues that I have forgotten some and can rewatch them. Have I reached nirvana?
@wittycomment5 жыл бұрын
Yay! A back issues that I can listen to while I’m working. I wonder when the last one was. I was starting to get used to uploads after midnight, but this is better, lol.
@TommyBaysMusic5 жыл бұрын
Same, I'm normally listening after I get home when going to bed.
@winfordlee71515 жыл бұрын
This episode was fantastic, everyone was on fire with the jokes, I don't think I've laughed this hard at an episode of Back Issues.
@Henchman_242 жыл бұрын
I've watched upwards of 30 of your videos but the lonely island reference is what gained the sub
@timcarder21705 жыл бұрын
I had never heard of this story, until they announced R.D.J. was cast to play him in the first Iron Man movie, and everybody started speculating they were going to follow this comics storyline .
@simonstoten48192 жыл бұрын
She’ll head may actually be a reference to his first armour where the helmet looked like a mortar ‘Shell’
@andrewmatseshe73435 жыл бұрын
HOLY SHIT!!! Here we go! My older brother had this when I was a kid. Just in time for a 2 hour layover! Thanks Sal 👍🏿😁
@hooliganmulligan5 жыл бұрын
18:50 a classic ben moment
@AnarchicArachnid5 жыл бұрын
Hope you can do "Five Nightmares" by Matt Fraction, sooner or later as that's a solid story and what I was hoping iron man 3 would have been.
@dawnloria63705 жыл бұрын
OMG - an A-Team reference! Worth the listen for that.
@masterrance5 жыл бұрын
Happy Birthday Tiffany!!
@barraki67064 жыл бұрын
(8:32) Poor Blitzwing...
@SergeantPancake5 жыл бұрын
Sal's drunk Iron Man is so fucking funny.
@cincymutt5 жыл бұрын
By biggest issue with Iron Man 3 (and I have a few) is about what it should have been. It should've taken from this story and been about Tony's alcoholism. But talking about that wouldn't have been too adult for Disney; and maybe too unsexy for mass audiences that probably don't think very negatively about excessive drinking, unless it leads to behavior that inconveniences them personally.
@rivwilson93304 жыл бұрын
You guys doing drunk iron man is phenomenal.
@Joeuphonium_mk._25 ай бұрын
Drunk Tony Stark is one of Sal's best characters!
@Sicod793 жыл бұрын
The Tuna Melter is an Apex Predator.
@dn22pkkdd4762 жыл бұрын
"The Island is fighting back!" - Ben
@superherocrew36255 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting 300 episodes for this
@senorstyx30115 жыл бұрын
Demon in a bottle (what would snowflame do)?
@comixproviderftw_025 жыл бұрын
mister roboto *snorts cocaine*
@flywheelshyster4 жыл бұрын
god i love the reading of jarvis letter at the end. off to get some coffee
@namt46085 жыл бұрын
When the story where green arrow slaps speedy for being an addict and leaves the kid homeless
@davidesterley31635 жыл бұрын
I just found out it is Tiffany's birthday. I'm not too late, I hope. Happy birthday 🎂
@StoickTheTired5 жыл бұрын
More drunk Cuzo Sal plz As a former user of the devil's nectar, I'm a social drinker now, this arc was just fun.
@williamgazca66415 жыл бұрын
I got a pitch ... iron sal: angel in a coke zero..coming 2021
@marcushamner59945 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this story for a long time!! Too sweet, guys!! I've read the entire arc!
@Simplesource985 жыл бұрын
Besides this story, Armor Wars is a "noteable" Iron Man adventure. Glad you did this one.
@Omar-wq9dz5 жыл бұрын
Good pick for this week’s back issues! :) P.S - Sal, Ben, Ethan, Tiffany, would you ever consider doing back issues for Astro City? It’s by Kurt Busiek and Alex Ross, after doing Marvels (which you did a back issues on already), with an artist called Brent Anderson, who did X-Men: God Loves Man Kills (which you also did a back issue for).
@R.J.Godzilla815 жыл бұрын
@25:25_OMG, that look on Ethan's face, LOL.
@mikesetzer93795 жыл бұрын
That avengers arcade game was legit very Iron man, that's all my memory of 90s Iron man lol. Love this back issues episode
@regularguy54035 жыл бұрын
3 ComicPOP videos in one day? This is early Christmas.
@ryanisabox29210 ай бұрын
"Smokin' hot redhead"...You know anything about that, Sal?
@flywheelshyster5 жыл бұрын
such a good episode! I just ordered the comicpop hoodie too! I wwanted something a little different and went for the royal blue
1:10:40 it was supposedly Dave Cockrum's letter of resignation
@eqs17824 жыл бұрын
He relapses, that's how Rhodey becomes Iron Man later.
@ultimate_lance5 жыл бұрын
Poor one out in honor of this story
@robertclarke40964 жыл бұрын
Thanks for this guys :)
@TommyBaysMusic5 жыл бұрын
Yessss! I get to watch before work today!
@ArKaYseR5 жыл бұрын
really good drunk ironman impression hahahaha
@TheGreatDevlin5 жыл бұрын
Tony went to AA in Civil War II and runs into Captain Marvel
@TumzFestivalYT2 жыл бұрын
Sal's drunk Tony Stark is fucking hilarious.
@batnick72305 жыл бұрын
I was always curious about this story.
@cristianalvarado34735 жыл бұрын
Holy crap, theyre finally doing it!
@caolandillon44985 жыл бұрын
Glad to say I actually have read this one thanks to it being in The Ultimate Marvel Graphic Novel Collection :D
@eqs17824 жыл бұрын
Tony Stark is a cat. Guard: you wouldn't Tony: *drops lamps*
@comicbookbullies5 жыл бұрын
Yeah that letter was real. It's another video that revealed who wrote that resignation letter but I can't remember who the name they said.
@caydenkebbles18615 жыл бұрын
Great episode!
@huldrasass4 жыл бұрын
Actually Tony does go to AA in multiple comics. Like we do preafly see the bulging and sometimes in meetings. It happens some time during the whole Civil War mess, Civil War 2 uhh also also Iron man invincible origins and some other times too I think. Breafly mentioned and easy to miss though!
@spencerainsworth2695 жыл бұрын
I love the intro
@radicalraddish62925 жыл бұрын
Another great video guys. And happy birthday Tiffany!