Is Apple Vision ALREADY dead?

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Chapter Titles
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0:00 Hello and Welcome
0:13 Do you want some tea?
1:12 No man’s land
2:14 Bombas Socks
3:28 Apple Vision 2.0?
4:35 The BIG downside
5:42 Worse than what we have now
6:27 Conspiracy Time
7:35 Not ready yet
8:37 iPadOS and MacOS merged
9:39 Developers aren’t here
10:45 Possibilities
11:38 Price ISN’T the problem
12:38 Crypto Bros 2.0
13:25 What do you think?

[@blainelocklair]

"The U.S. has the highest douchebag to income ratio." Now THAT is funny.

[@icephoenix5466]

Dubai disproves them 😂😂😂

[@cgwworldministries83]

Let me fill you in as a developer. For Android, all I need is a computer with ADK installed. That includes the meta quest. I don't need the hardware in hand, any improvements can be made based on user feedback. With the Vision Pro, I would REQUIRE, an iPhone 12 onward, a Mac, a Vision Pro, AND a $99 a year Apple developer account. It is such a steep investment on my part. On top of that Apple takes a MASSIVE 30% cut of all sales. It is the only platform where I would go into debt to develop for with zero gurantee of ROI. The worst that happens on other platforms, is I make $0.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

Yeah I was going to say publishing apps to android is way easier and much cheaper I used to study app development in high school and made google developer account and it was a one time fee

[@cgwworldministries83]

@@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK right and you don't even need to pay that fee until your app is done and your intention is to use the play store. There's other free stores to use like Amazon and APKPure etc. freedroid.

[@YawningMoon]

Overpriced. Overweight. Overhyped. Overrated.

[@emmanuelgoldstein3682]

Just like me

[@jasalajoshua]

dont talk about matt like that. Just kdding

[@TheCommanderTaco]

Don't necessarily think it was overhyped, but the overpriced definitely killed the hype lol. Watched Mutahar's review and he pretty much stated the exact same thing other creators who only uses it for like a week or two stated ( which is sad considering he took months with it and still came to the same conclusion lol). Hardware wise it has amazing tech, but majority of users probably wouldn't notice said tech too much with it's comparison to the Meta Quest 3 ( at least not on paper) which is what truly hurts Apple. The quest 3 has much more functionality out of the box at a way lower cost point. For a on the go office I could see this being worth it, but as Muta pointed out on his review if you want multiple windows you have to pay for such a feature. Having privacy in a Cafe or something I can see being great, but when you lose the point of functionality the price is no way justified. TLDR: hardware is great, but software is holding it back.

[@scootersfrog]

same about the socks

[@zombl337og]

#APPLE in a nutshell

[@DarkAngel723]

"The US has the highest level of douchbag to income ratio" 🤣 too funny, but true

[@Jay-qs6jk]

I want more of gray Austin 0:33

[@the_peefster]

He died and came back as Austin the White

[@msjonyba1234]

Oh thank goodness, I thought my brand new phone was messing up.😅

[@javierito750]

I agree, truly one of the characters of all time

[@henrycarrillo-gonzalez2640]

That glitch in 0:33 😂

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

I thought that was my phone lmao

[@TheCynicalJedi]

4:48 "Do you really wanna live your life with a headset on?" You mean do we want the world to turn into Wall-E where we're all floating around in chairs with permanent holo-screens in our faces...? Except with a single overarching giga-corp pulling all the strings? It almost sounded tempting at first

[@TheCynicalJedi]

Also here's my problem with the Vision Pro right, the amount of money this thing costs, you could buy a Quest 3 and a desktop PC with a high enough spec that you could play whatever games you wanted in VR with minimal issues..... Now before the sheep scream "But Apple isn't for gamers, it's for productivity", performance is performance, just because you could build a PC for gaming doesn't mean it wouldn't also crush productivity tasks like video editing

[@MissingYouser]

⁠@@TheCynicalJediThe VP can also wirelessly connect to a PC to play PCVR games. If you didn’t know that, it’s because a lot of people would rather spew hate while being ignorant to what it can actually do.

[@PixelatedH2O]

Apple selling it for $3500 when you could get another full VR headset setup for like a third of the price is what really killed it.

[@mikerenningersr7664]

When I started in Computers, I was using punchcards to load programs. The innovation in the last 50 years is incredible. VR will eventually be that way, but just like PCs right now, you can tweak speed, graphics, etc. but bottom line is its really the same product. Apple's product does have a few more features, but at its price point, its just not different enough.

[@ChaseSchleich]

Computers also started as huge machines and have shrunk down so small they can fit in your hand. VR is going to have to go through a similar evolution. It will go from current size, down to ski goggles, down to reading glasses, and eventually to contact lenses. It just might take 20 years to get there.

[@Bloooo95]

@@ChaseSchleichIt will never get to the point of being a contact lens. They’ve been saying we’ll get it down to glasses in 20 years for more than 20 years now. We have miniatured silicon as far as we can. The idea we’ll magically shrink transistors on silicon even further for VR is baseless. That tech would already exist in smartphones if possible.

[@gundealerofthe74th]

I almost fully agree with Matt. However, I don't think Apple was planning on selling a lot of these, I think that they were planning on selling the idea of the vision pro. I work in IT at the moment, and I've talked to two different apple reps for things unrelated to the vision pro, and they both mentioned that I should go and demo the thing because the tech is cool. They both even admitted that it's too expensive. I don't think they want people to buy the vision pro, they want people to buy the "idea" of the vision pro so when something cheaper comes out they can say "Oh it's got all the big things from the pro, but it's only 1000 bucks" or something.

[@doublejumpvideogames....]

Proof of concept product with U.S only beta testers

[@michaelklock422]

Meta Quest 3 still an incredible deal for 1/7th of the price

[@nintendork07]

One of the most popular apps, on the front page of the app Store, on the vision pro has only made its creator $300 total. there is no incentive for developers to make anything worthwhile on the platform. a $3,500 barrier to entry was such a stupid move on Apple's part. their only competition is a mostly gaming headset that's $500. agree with Matt on most points about this device. for that price you can buy an entire office setup that will run circles around the vision pro and will actually last you well into the future

[@i_am_board_games]

Do they remember the homepod? It came in with a bang and fizzled.

[@stevegonzales527]

Apple knew it had lots of suckers and profitable, having them as beta testers before going world wide. I have said this before launch and everyone thought I was crazy

[@miguelhamrol6567]

Tim Cook says buy your mother an iphone, or better buy your mother an Apple Vision. 😂

[@TheM0T]

Based on everything I was hearing when this came out, it seems like the Vision Pro: 1. Has groundbreaking tech in the hardware and software. 2. Is a mind-blowing experience the first time you try one. 3. Is a marvel of engineering. and 4. Is a product no one should buy. It always felt like something only for the hardest of hardcore Apple enthusiasts or bleeding edge tech early adopters. This is to AR/VR as the 1st gen iPhone was to smartphones, but worse. I hope they don't completely drop the idea because, with a lower price, a lighter, more comfortable build, and greater software support, I can see a future where the Vision [not Pro] or the Vision Pro 2 or whatever is a much more worthwhile and successful product.

[@KingVulpes]

Meta has been doing a good job of spreading VR/MR by lowering prices on Quest 2 and making it more affordable for everyone to get started with VR/MR, I say the Quest 2 is VR/MR because I have tested AR multi-player games between a Quest 2 and Quest 3 and despite the quality differences, the games were still fun to play on both devices

[@camgeiger]

Google Glass has entered the chat:

[@ladron6161]

Google glass and AR really got it right the first time sadly people weren't ready for it

[@Bloooo95]

@@ladron6161Because it was a terrible product.

[@ladron6161]

@@Bloooo95 sure

[@Daddy-.-]

How my day is going: 0:35

[@nerdy4382]

I did a demo of the Vision Pro last week at the Apple Store. The tech is very very impressive, the screens are incredible. But when I removed it I was just left with a “uhm, but what could I do with it expect watching a movie”. It’s too impractical yet for anything else than just watching something, a Mac, iPhone or iPad does everything else better.

[@chris7077]

Same, did the demo last week. Awesome potential for the future, absolutely not worth anywhere close to the price as it is right now.

[@MissingYouser]

I think that’s the issue. To most people VR is a new medium so they need to be taught the things they can do with it. Price is the number 1 issue, but general ignorance on how VR works is probably number 2.

[@chris7077]

@@MissingYouser That's why people do the demo, what else would it be for?

[@MissingYouser]

@@chris7077 One thing is you can use it as a PC monitor. I moved my PC out of my room to a place super convenient right next to the internet access point to get an easy hardwired connection. I now have my PC everywhere I go. A lot of people immediately say a laptop can do that, but those people aren’t thinking VR. Laptop screens are tiny compared to what VP can do. I can have a giant screen of a game running while I have my ring doorbell up to see when food is coming and a KZbin video up teaching me something about the game. You can’t have that many screen up at a big enough size on a laptop. Also, a laptop requires you to be in a certain position which often leads to neck pain and bad posture. If you take a laptop into the bathroom, (unless you’re holding your laptop up at eye level the entire time), you’re going to be looking down at your lap which puts a ton of strain on your neck. The screen is also pretty far from you in this position. With VP you can keep your neck at a normal angle and be in any position like laying down or in a room with no table to rest anything on. Lastly, what’s faster when it comes to Microsoft excel? Typing, looking at the next cell you want to type into, reaching over to grab the mouse, going to where you were looking, then bringing your hand back to the keyboard to type, OR looking at the cell you want to type in, pinching your fingers while they’re still on the keyboard, and then typing? Now multiply that by the thousands of times you reach for a mouse in a year. It’s literally a quicker point A to point B with excel on VP, but because people are ignorant to thinking VR they don’t understand these concepts without being taught.

[@MissingYouser]

@@chris7077 My comments are getting deleted for some reason. One thing you can do is take your Windows PC out of your room/office and put it right next to the internet access point since the VP can be used as a monitor. A lot of people immediately say, “But a laptop can do that!” What they don’t get is that a laptop screen is only 17 inches. On a VP you can make a ton of huge windows. You can have a full screen game running while another window has your video doorbell up to see if food is coming, while your messages are up, all while you’re watching a KZbin video about the game you’re playing. A laptop can’t fit all of that and more on the screen at a big enough size to be reasonably useable. Another thing is that you have to have a stand perfectly level for you with a laptop in every single room you go into. If I go to the bathroom with a laptop sitting on my lap, my neck is going to hurt from looking down. The VP can be used in any position because you can put the windows anywhere. That includes lying down and reclining back.

[@jamesburke2759]

MS, Dell and Lenovo didnt make it work for $499 with the AR stuff, how could apple ever thought this would work for $3500

[@SpiderMcGee]

It's Microsoft Bob for your head.

[@dmanpotatoaspotatoas1702]

Absolutely love this is keep it up Austin and Matt

[@homermorisson9135]

The only thing I'd want to use a headset for is to watch Movies/steam stuff on a giant ass screen... but from what I've seen from the Vision, it's not even remotely full-viewfield... and then there's the price. Here's hoping we'll get much cheaper headsets that have the Apps on-device so they won't need a permanent PC connection.

[@ghstbstr]

Even $1000 would have been way too much, but I guess you gotta pay for that word that Apple word which means quality... hahahahahahahahahaha

[@mouhalo]

the parts on the vision pro are actually worth $1500. gotta be realistic at some point

[@gregorygeorge8695]

If you’ve ever found yourself wanting multiple iPads floating in space, the AVP is the right thing for you! But it all seriousness, lightsealed devices have a space for portable content watching for cinema-like experience, and that’s about the only thing the AVP can do that some other device can’t.

[@suny217]

I very recently purchased a Quest 3 because I wanted something to watch movies and TV shows on that was better than my crappy projector. If the Apple Vision Pro was close in price I would have totally gotten it instead, even if it’s not great with game, purely because of its visual fidelity prowess

[@evskievskievskie]

Too real. I simply can’t be comfy wearing any kind of bigass clunky headset for longer than 10 min at a time, unfortunately

[@awsomewe360]

I bought my HTC Vive back in the day for $1100 CAD, and now you can find a complete package on marketplace for around $100. I wish Apple products depreciated in value. I would love in 5 years to be able to reasonably afford a Vision Pro.

[@lenardz]

They really should have made AVP into an accessory instead of a standalone. Not only would it make it significantly lighter, but provide so much more use cases. Let it so people can plug it to their MacBooks or Macs; or make it Windows compatible. Not only would people be able to actually use it as a multi screen PC, but they’d have so many applications and processing power to utilize. And they wouldn’t have to have the thing die in a couple hours when the battery runs out.

[@andrewloy6722]

When you write AVP I was thinking Alien Vs. Predator 😂 that would be a killer app for this thing😅

[@ChaseSchleich]

Lack of content and price seems like the 2 biggest problems. Smartphones didn't explode in popularity until the "There's an app for that" marketing campaign started. It took a little time for apps for smartphones to come out, but when they did, there was suddenly a thousand of them, giving smartphones the big advantage over flip phones and people started making the switch. Smartphones also weren't $3500. The price needs to get to the $1000-$1500 range if it's ever going to sell decently well.

[@devilmikey00]

Also, most people do not buy a phone at full price. Most normal people get their phone through a carrier for a severely reduced up front cost and pay the rest off hidden away within a cellphone contract over the next 2-3 years. It's one of the things that makes me want to scream when the techtubers just ignore how normal people buy phones and pretend like everyone is going out to buy $1000-$1500 dollar phones every few years. Even if you were to put the Vision Pro on a 24 month plan it'd still be a $150+ monthly fee which is still a lot of money extra a month for an average joe. To ignore and pretend like the price of this thing wasn't the sole reason it completely flopped is to deny the reality we live in. No one can care about all shit they talked about in this video if literally no one but the top 5% of income earners can ever even lay their hands on one.

[@Bloooo95]

Yes, but smartphones weren’t a new category. They were just a more capable phone and owning a cellphone was standard by the time the iPhone was introduced. So it was easy for people to make the switch to a smartphone. That’s not the case for VR/AR. It’s a whole new category for most people.

[@ChaseSchleich]

@@devilmikey00 Putting smartphone payments into the monthly bill was the only way to get the technology into everyone's hand. It was a rather genius move by the cell phone companies. VR is a blend between smartphones, PCs, and game consoles and so far it's been sold more like PC's and consoles are, all the money up front which greatly hurts how many people can get their hands on them. Apple needs to do the smartphone strategy if they want their headset to take off, but as I said, the price needs to come way down to the $1000-$1500 range and there needs to be a demand for the product which will only happen if apps are made for it, increasing is usability.

[@Semi-Detached]

I was originally interested in getting one of these to be able to get rid of the big screens I have on my desk and go down to just a laptop and be able to have virtual displays wherever I want. What caused me to hold off and wait was the comfort issues a number of people mentioned. I don't leave my house, so not really worried about a status symbol.

[@jayes5066]

i already ditched physical screens with a quest 3. avp is twice the res

[@WhoKnowsZombie]

I’m really surprised people want one for productivity. Why would someone want to wear something that’s heavy just to have floating screens when working on stuff? That to me is CRAZY!!! I bought one for watching tv shows and movies and I still love it to this day way more then any tv screen I’ve ever watched. Especially when you lay in bed watching because you don’t feel it’s weight at all when laying down while using it.

[@MissingYouser]

VR headsets have 3rd part mods for comfort. The people complaining about comfort probably didn’t know that.

[@mouhalo]

@@WhoKnowsZombie Same, i got my pc and an ultra wide screen to work and game on, but the vision pro is amazing for movies and shows being able to have that big screen and the amazing sound feels like a theatre . cant imagine wearing this to do any sort of work or going out with it thats just stupid to me

[@allenellisdewitt]

This IS the product I want... once it weighs less & costs less. Perfect for people who live in small spaces.

[@ALionlikeMane]

I wouldn't bundle all headsets in here with the Vision Pro. The Quest is absolutely not a content devoid wasteland. And while adding one monitor to a $3500 is a crap value proposition (i know you can trick it into more), Meta Workplace and Immersed allowing three monitors for $500 is a crazy good value prop... ... and while movies obviously look better on Vision Pro, they still look incredible on Quest, and there's many, many more ways to enjoy videos on Quest. ...didn't even have to talk about games.

[@tropixi5336]

you pay 3k to use it as a phone... theres no point in it

[@POVwithRC]

Nah, it's not a phone.

[@tropixi5336]

@@POVwithRC read what i said... i never said it was a phone... you USE it like one

[@AnthonyELombardi]

Agreed

[@Jihadbearzwithgunz]

Poor app support to doesn't help it. It was set to fail tbh

[@tropixi5336]

@@Jihadbearzwithgunz just proves to me all apple really care about is money. not making god products literally just wants to me people money cows

[@Nicktals]

The usefulness of the vision pro has been in identifying tech reviewers with no spine (one of the people here passed, one clearly did not lol), people with TOO much money (that used it once but 4k is unnoticeable--influencers amd the 1%) and people with the unfortunate FOMO/money ratio where they couldnt resist buying this as a status symbol without actually having the money or status to justify. That's the sad group--People with normal jobs who own every apple product and over-leveraged themselves further to buy the newest unnecessary, overpriced status symbol from apple. They definitely wouldve had a better time with the quest 3 for 1/7th the price.

[@imakethesites3048]

2026 Vision Pro Gen 3: Now Only $3600, but with fewer ports, battery not included anymore, one additional camera lens

[@hilmalumay]

I want the vision pro to be a room instead where you can install all the sensors and holograms anywhere in that room to work perfectly. It's not gonna be mobile but a productivity and entertainment system in 1 room. Or by another one for multiple rooms ..

[@kokohanahana]

kyle really spittin fire today

[@chantafreak]

Austin might be too young for the movie Strang Days, but Matt might have seen it, and until "VR" doesnt reach the level where a device doesnt use your visual impulse feed and piggy back off your actual senses, to deliver the sights sounds and maybe even tastes an smells, its all a toy.

[@bigblue1287]

6:45 LOL ....Matt , I love your OVERALL View!!!!! I guess you will never be visiting the USA🤣😂🤣😂

[@Balphy]

Forget the devs. What killer app has Apple come out with?

[@gdcolwell]

This is the FIRST version, it just came out a couple months ago. Apple will iterate on this just like they have with Mac, iPhone, iPad, Watch, and AirPods. We will blink, and the next thing you know there will be 5 new hardware iterations and 8 new visionOSes and the platform will be much further along.

[@WhoKnowsZombie]

You gotta be joking, a status symbol? Who bought one for that? I paid almost 5k and I never leave the house really I just use it at home and never told anyone around me about me owning it. I still love the Apple Vision Pro. Let me say this if your like me and you bought it to watch tv shows and movies then you’ll still love it. Especially if your like me and your addicted to watching tv shows and watch them all day long.

[@GHOSTSTARSCREAM]

oh, you'd be surprised. People buy iphones just for the status symbol alone and nothing else

[@davocarli]

I'm one of those very very very few people who actually works in the AVP every day. Then again, I had been working in a Quest 3 (almost) every day since it released until the AVP, so I'm already a heavy VR-workspace user. A big part of why is because I travel a lot, though, so investing in a really good desk setup doesn't really make sense for me.

[@Gilfordd]

I forgot this existed until you posted this new video

[@beepster991]

In term of "buzz" vs actual practicality, this has a lot in common with the "Google Glass". But the latter was less intrusive with a cool retrofuturism esthetic.

[@zwifty7148]

I guess I’m an anomaly. I bought the VP and use it daily. I’m a wedding photographer and this device has been a godsend for my workflow. I’m no longer stuck in my office to work. I can go lay on a hammock in my backyard and stare at a theater sized screen as I a cull through wedding photos. I can see every detail of an image without having to zoom in. It’s a game changer for me.

[@grandmoffporkins]

That’s a great example. They should’ve made that a better part of the pitch: freeing creatives from the desk and giving creators the ultimate creation studio that can go just about anywhere. Instead, they sold it more as a “lifestyle” product showing people looking like dorks having a conversation while wearing the goggles.

[@zwifty7148]

@@grandmoffporkins I agree 100%. You would think with Apple that they would have naturally leaned that way to begin with, but it was completely missing from the marketing.

[@Zabaniyah_ACTUAL]

Im a clinical professional and completely agree. I review clinical records from anywhere now.

[@Nicktals]

​@@Zabaniyah_ACTUALyou could do that from a phone, a macbook, a tablet. But hey I think it looks cool I just think most dont want to bring an extra device if they don't have to. But can it replace a macbook for most outings? Maybe, but i suspect it feels like a lateral move for most people, in terms of what they can do. You want to work outside but you need a battery pack and the battery life is still only 90 minutes, so the design is working against a lot of these uses compared to things we already use everyday to accomplish the same tasks, like photo editing. I think if you're willing to strap a vision pro to your face pinching two fingers on an iPad to zoom is manageable. It's crazy that most of the apps are straight iPad ports. Not even a chance of doing anything interesting lol.

[@maciej21]

So for 3k, you bought a screen that can last around 2 hours so you can watch pictures without actually doing any work on those pictures? What about editing, color correction? That is your game changer? 😂😂😂

[@vinnichi]

For 3k give developers open source. This would allow the community to show its full potential.

[@25Leprechaun]

huh I was expecting a vid on the TikTok ban, but this will do xD

[@SirMegaManNeoX]

The vision is SURPRISINGLY GOOD as an OFFICE TOOL.

[@TheKNIGHTELFMOHAWK]

I remember VR headsets were a thing you strapped a thing your phone into

[@extra4542]

1:28 is 1000% true. I’m with Matt on all his points in this one

[@gregoryleverton]

My issue is that even when i imagine the "ideal version" of the vision pro. The crazy sci future version where its in a pair of glasses and everything works perfectly...I still dont want that, that doesnt appeal to me at all.

[@heyjustj]

Here’s my CRAZY idea. I promise it’s worth reading. Give it an USB-C HDMI output so it can connect to a regular monitor and run MacOS and allow bluetooth mouse/keyboard support. Then it leverages the hardware used for spatial computing for REGULAR computing when not in VR mode. A more elegant system would be a dock of some sort. So essentially you get the VR headset and when docked and charging it’s an odd form factor Mac Mini. The hardware is there to do it and I think more people in the market for a Mac would pay the extra money to use as their main system plus the novelty factor of VR. I know I’d be tempted to ditch my current Mac Mini to do that because then I feel like I’m still getting useful value out of the product plus supporting and experiencing the next evolution of computing.

[@louiel6219]

It’s just too heavy. If it was lighter I would have kept mine. Because of the weight it made it uncomfortable. That’s the whole issue. They used metal instead of plastic. They can fix it

[@gbblarggb]

Litterally doesn’t mention the quest pro. The headset that’s legit what the Vision Pro is, without Apple os

[@kelly_software]

the AVP is just getting started

[@jayes5066]

the only thing i think avp did wrong was lack of a halo strap and lack of a counter balance

[@justinseans]

Well, I like the Xreal. So, at the right price and when it gets smaller and half the price, then sure.

[@extra4542]

I wouldn’t buy it for even $1000. Why? Because if you want to use it as a productivity device it’s not standalone, you still need a Mac. And even then with all its capabilities, you can only mirror one display. You also can’t game on it properly bc of the lack of VR controllers except for simple swipe games. Also, it’d just be uncomfortable to use for long periods of time. I already don’t like having ANY headset on, let alone one that’s the heaviest on the market. I’m already seeing people try to get rid of it for 1800-2000 on eBay. AFTER A MONTH

[@MemesSpaghetti]

I think the Vision Pro is super cool, I would love to have one, but… I would probably use it for a month and then forget it exists

[@MrMxTech]

We Need a MAC PAD :P

[@BonJoviBeatlesLedZep]

Meta just announced their HorizonOS. It's going to essentially be Windows but for VR/AR. We're going to be getting light, productivity-focused headsets that you can just quickly put on and do work in. This kills the Vision Pro. ....is what I say as someone who has never used a Mac and had always used Android. Apple will find a way. There will be a use case for the Vision Pro just as there is for the Mac. I'm not counting Apple out just yet.

[@fishma2]

If the price was 1500 this would be a different conversation. I think 3500 put it out if the reach for the average person that would've bought it.

[@ezenteno77]

Been watching the PB and Jelly on the back for a long time now, and still waiting for them to start eating them...

[@JJtheBroken]

It’s an antique

[@pyronmasters]

6:48 and that’s what made me subscribe.

[@EyesOfByes]

0:34 Error.

[@IAmConorr]

Not releasing it internationally was a weird move in my opinion

[@superzero4250]

As VP user, I thoroughly enjoy using it mainly for watching content, including KZbin and Netflix. But all the derision feels an awful lot like people telling us that electric vehicles are not practical, when we have been driving one for years… We are neither rich nor content creators, and literally saved up for eight months to buy what literally turned out to be a revolutionary iOS/ iPadOS experience… Honestly feel like the guy with the backward cap is not very forward thinking, and speaks for a lot of people who lack discretionary income. It is easy to mock people who own Yachts when you don’t own one, same principle… Definitely VP has nearly unlimited potential… 🤔

[@That_Dan_Guy_]

Audio drops at the 13:14 mark for a few seconds.

[@vadnegru]

It's literally got same life as Quest pro. Overpriced, overhyped and everyone forgot that it exists. And i would argue that Quest pro was more useful and now it's only used to do PCVR and Quest 3 is better in most ways and cost less. It might stay in it's niche, like iPad does now.

[@fnanook]

curious to know the real return rate; I don’t think 50%, maybe 30-35 % ?

[@doombuddha]

I conly only really see this becoming longterm successful for Apple if either a small group of people find a hand-full of unique solutions that only this would improve for an audience that could expand at a lesser price-point, or a unique solution for a small group of people who this and only this would solve have the income and awareness to adopt it at a higher price-point. This can't be successful in it's current shape because the incentive for adopting it isn't there no matter how good it is.

[@YTGamenerd]

The Apple Vision release made purchasing the Quest 3 guilt free for me.

[@Thomas-VA]

It's for those who live on the bleeding edge and have enough income to bleed it, like an all gold apple, it's not for you

[@piconano]

Familiarize yourself with the word "Fad".

[@carlosr1176]

Vr is at its best when it makes you believe you are somewhere else. This thing could make you feel you are inside a tv show or movie. Among many other great things. They gave its users almost none of that. What it does other things do better.

[@catfishvega3728]

I don’t work on mine, but do like watching movies on it.

[@Mazde26]

Apple is a fashion brand more then a tec company

[@Mrzombieman]

its not just expensive, its EXPENSIVE, to the point of irrelevancy.

[@sandman1989]

apple vision isn't selling well in the US there's no way it sells better internationally considering it will cost more

[@johnpallow6697]

Everything you can do on the Apple vision you can do on the meta quest. So unless there's a killer app everyone needs it will flop

[@gigapuddi]

Why are you basing judgement on total speculation of what it could be in a perfect world lmao

[@dannyed42]

When Meta makes a Pro 2 it will absolutely kill Vision Pro

[@jdarg4163]

I think the Vision Pro is dead on arrival as I see Meta Horizon OS still being the world's top XR platform weather it is on Meta's own headset or other manufacturers headsets

[@annonymat]

The iPhone had the iPod touch, so there was a cheaper alternative to incentivise devs to make apps for

[@tylersmith6267]

I friggin love it and it’s a beautiful piece of amazing engineerin! But it’s $3500

[@DrMuFFinMan]

The Apple Vision is a closed system that can't be used for more then a few things. Little app support and no real game support. This is a demo product not a product line. No company is wasting money developing apps for a system used by 10 people. The best hardware is completely dead without good software.

[@CmdrX3]

Not being able to use it with a PC makes it completely pointless for me.

[@TheDethsight]

wish i could skip the "VR" era and wake up in the "holo projector in every room like in star trek" era. i won't be looking forward to actual holo projected ads though. god help us.

[@aurorayoru5333]

Not gonna lie I forgot about the Apple vision pro

[@stefanegger]

I saw no use for this device and I was right, but a company may have different approach. It is about patents and license fees etc. and not only about the sales itself, if this would take off (which it wont anyway) then it would be important to have a portfolio of patents. Other than that, it is not interesting, it is uncomfortable and a nieche product for a nieche usecase.

[@devrandvar]

If apple would actually embrace gaming they could turn these into some really nice VR gaming headsets, but I do not expect that to happen. The main actual use for the current Vision pro is as an external display for the mac, but with the high price, supporting for only one one display, limited battery life, and the comfort issues, it is just not very good even for that. Just make the thing plug where it can plug into the mac and get power and display from it through a cable. This stupid obsession apple has with wireless just caused more issues with this thing and it still has a wire going to the battery pack anyway. Regardless I kind of expect apple to figure it out eventually at least to some degree, but it will be several years away and this will be a fairly niche product. At least until they can get it compacted down into something like sunglasses and that is many many years away. No one should buy the current vision pro and probably not even the next gen or 2. Perhaps if apple manages to get the next gen to support more higher res displays and improve the battery life and comfort it might be decent for people who need to work while traveling a lot, but in it's current state it seems pretty silly even for that.

[@s.m.mediaproductions5304]

Oh yeah, I forgot about that thing.

[@Chew_bacca1138]

Like i said before it was released, It's not gonna be good, the second model will be way better, and everyone should just wait

[@vetulamortem]

Even as someone who hates apple with a passion, i can agree from a technical perspective its an amazing piece of hardware. But as an apple hater it has ALL the red flags every apple device has for me, which is the ecosystem lock in. If i wanted a productivity device id still get a meta quest 3 over an apple vision pro its cheaper, has physical controllers plus hand tracking good passthrou good spatial lock. If the apple vision would be more around 1000 bucks with controllers it would be a good deal but 3500 for only a headset. No just no. Thats like 2 months salery for something that just does not have a good usecase yet.

[@estried86]

It's as practical as iPod socks.

[@dominikmatis6934]

Usual Gartner hype cycle