Is Individual Freedom the Most Important Thing? | Louise Perry

In this clip, Louise Perry argues that 'hyperliberalism' is at odds with the human condition, and motherhood, which is especially opposed to the pursuit of absolute individual freedom.
Louise Perry is a journalist and author based in London, UK. She is a columnist for UnHerd, a featured writer for the Daily Mail, and hosts Maiden Mother Matriarch, a podcast about sexual politics.
Louise is the author of the landmark book, 'The Case Against the Sexual Revolution: A New Guide to Sex in the 21st Century,' published by Polity."
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[@tomhamilton7726]

Individual freedom is indeed the most important issue in today’s society. However, only children with their magical thinking imagine a unipolar world. Adults are aware of other values such as duty and honour which are part and parcel of a life centred around freedom.

[@ianmangham4570]

Who's duty and Who's honour 🎖

[@tomhamilton7726]

@@ianmangham4570 well, ones own sense of both duty and honour of course.

[@mikitz]

A smart individualist also advocates for individual responsibility alongside personal freedom.

[@Gingerblaze]

@@mikitz indeed. There is no freedom without responsibility. Only chaos.

[@Io-Io-Io]

Men and women are two parts of one and interdependent. The whole feminist idea to take the two apart is anti life and anti nature. It is highly destructive and actually satanic

[@TheMichaelMove]

Liberal feminism is not about freedom in any rational sense. It assigns “rights” to women at the expense of someone else’s freedom. As in the example of “equal pay” in the workplace. What they actually want is equal pay for less work and less responsibility.

[@libertykim6438]

Should a male cashier make more money than a female for the same job and same hours?

[@BaneTheTitan]

​@@libertykim6438 Clearly went over your head...

[@TheMichaelMove]

@@libertykim6438 no. As long as the efficiency is the same, the willingness to step in when others don’t show up is the same, etc. Mostly the equal pay scam happens in white collar jobs. There, men generally put in more hours and take on more responsibility often with the same job title. Leftists use the job title to claim “unequal pay.” But this is just one example. Unjustifiably high pay for sports that make much less money, free abortions until birth. It is a very long list.

[@libertykim6438]

@@BaneTheTitan Explain.

[@PennySmart]

Yet those "rights" end up being too often at the detriment of women. For instance having to juggle a career while raising kids or the way men no longer feel it's their duty to protect women and provide for them.

[@MassacrisM]

Freedom isn't free. Who woulda thunk ?

[@pawelpap9]

Actually it is much simpler than she is trying to make it. Historically, individual freedom is male thing while women are more inclined towards communal living for a simple reason they need quite a lot of support to raise children. The difference in preferences is still quite pronounced different voting patterns between sexes. The problem with feminism is that in order to entirely equate sexed one has to remove motherhood from the equation.

[@brookvalley907]

Freedom is not the most important thing. Freedom is the only thing. Everyone should be able to do anything they want as long as it does not violate the property rights of anyone else. Government's role is to define and enforce property rights.

[@ToddRittinger]

"Freedom is not the most important thing. Freedom is the only thing." Well said!

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

What if your choices are literally destroying our society I think that's where we must draw the line

[@patcartier8171]

@@Joshua-eo5hr Choosing a childfree life is not exactly beneficial to society. In case you didn't notice, that was a euphemism. Now, allow me to quote the great philosopher Mark Knopfler: "Anyway, what you gonna do about it?"

[@charlesbrown1365]

Government’s purpose in the U.S. is to protect the _public_ , not private, health, safety and welfare , as pronounced in the Preamble of the Constitution.

[@b.alexanderjohnstone9774]

Love this woman. Let's not confuse liberty with libertines.

[@jonahtwhale1779]

Women - oppressed by her own choices! Women overwhelmingly chose male partners who earn more than they do! Typically by about 30% more. If a child is born which partner should stop work look after it? Do you want to lose 65% of the family income or 35%? So the lowest paid partner is the least bad option...but that would be the woman, a consequence of her choice to marry someone who earns more than she does! Choice to have a child ...A man can not force a woman to have a child against her will. Can a woman force a man? Yes, if he does not want a child there is nothing he can do. If she does not want a child she has many options. So if there is a child - who made that decision - her? Her body, her choice! Her choice, her responsibility! The responsibility goes with the choices!

[@joejoejoejoejoejoe4391]

I know a couple with the biggest earner was the wife (possibly through positive discrimination), so they decided that the husband would stay at home with the children, and she was shocked at how scary it was to be the main provider.

[@vivienneb6199]

no problem, and the kid will never see its grand parents of any relative on your side of the family, you bum. lol

[@StimParavane]

Freedom without responsibility and actually just a set of rationalisations for selfish behaviour.

[@marlonmoncrieffe0728]

...What SORTS of responsibilities?

[@alenaadamkova5322]

Well but..... the talk is mostly about attractive women because men dont want to marry ordinary looking women..... so these good-looking women dont want to give up their beauty, to loose independence and serve to family system... yet for many women the serving idea to a family system is the greatest happiness, because their parents lived happily like that. so the ordinary looking women choose at least career, to not be bored at home. if men dont want them much. the television is encouraging women to choose attractive men and men choose attractive women.... so then its even harder to start a family..... if instead of using your insticts, you listen some "short term" trends.... but goodlooking man doesnt necessarily create a happy marriage etc, because goodlooking ones may have other interests...that seem more important to them than the family. then there are women with infertility some doctor explained these women suffer from infertility because they dont spend enough time outside in nature, in sun and fresh air, but only inside of buildings.

[@vivienneb6199]

Women can opt not to have children. What is your problem?

[@skylinefever]

Well then, sell packages. Have people free to choose the package of being a wild individual or the package of motherhood. One thing I like about LP is that at least she gets that there will always be a certain number of people who are statistical outliers and trying to make them normies is not going to end well.

[@invin7215]

Wow that was very well laid out, well done by her.

[@boxingjerapah]

Unlimited individual freedom limits everyone's freedom. So, the most important thing is not individual freedom but who gets to decide, impose and enforce the inevitable limits on individual freedom that must be put in place.

[@XYZ-bi9eb]

where is all this unlimited freedom you are talking about?

[@PennySmart]

Very true!

[@peterstephenson9538]

Freedom which invokes rights - we need to share the truth that rights do not exist in the absence of exercise of the mutual responsibility. The latter, as with civil law, is what brings the rights into existence in the first place. This basic civics lesson was embodied in the culture of my fifties upbringing. Morality helps enormously, obvs.

[@XYZ-bi9eb]

you be you. thanks.

[@janetjacks3406]

This is incredibly similar, if not identical, to what Alexander Dugin claims which defines liberalism literally in terms of simply liberating oneself from something, that this is ultimately what individualism is expressing, so the person has to liberate themselves from any constraint, whether it be ones gender, or anything else that encroaches on ones liberty. I think this is too narrow and is missing something as I think trans ideology is really neo Marxist and really about collectivism which is contrary to individualism.

[@Neo_Red_Pill]

Motherhood is a sacred endeavour of Service and sacrifice . worthy of support and protection worthy of support and protection by men and other women. The mother baby bond is not to individuals. It’s a sacred unit of co regulation. For the sake of development . In short humans cannot outsource love or pay someone to do the sacred work. And young peoples ability to self regulate is completely dependent on this bond 🙏

[@Io-Io-Io]

Train - Drops of Jupiter

[@jellymulder]

she's good

[@FluxNomad678]

Here's a Freedom idea, stop making people work so much; both Women and Men. Maybe this discussion weighs heavily on women for raising the kids because it's just understood the father will be pulled away working long hours as traditionally the chief breadwinner. Women seeking more flexibility in their lives instead of subservient home maker and baby maker is fine, but the problem is when they race to catchup with the Men who are already being Overworked. Also, as this video discusses the women pulled away for their busy careers, in many cases I think the fathers are as well. I'm sure many have a lot of responsibility at the office or factory or other jobs, but they should also be present more in the family for their Fatherhood role as well and not just come home to nod off in the recliner wiped out from work. I feel like everyone is just being exploited and it's out of control and even women following Feminist thought feel they got more than they bargained for.

[@reinedire7872]

Freedom comes with responsibility and it must occur within the confines of reality. People these days have made an idol out of freedom to the point at which they believe it absolves them of responsibility and allows them to reject the reality of their own nature.

[@spicole2937]

Men still have obligitation

[@Joshua-eo5hr]

To what

[@spicole2937]

To maintain society all the stuff u take for granted daily i live in the country and we love and protect our women and women in our community but u already know that men do all the back breaking looks up workplace deaths a year to vote we are still drafted responibility no aurhority

[@CaylaBacho]

Your channel is like a charge of positive energy for the whole day! I am very grateful for this! ⚡

[@peterclark6290]

This could be reduced to constrained liberty: _your right to swing your arms stops where my nose begins._ The human desire for autonomy and agency is absolute in fully-formed individuals. This is balanced by the burden of culture which decides which constraints are evidence of crossing any particular threshold. Beware the constraints that have their origin in religion. E.g. raising a family in the traditional model is a massive burden. Offer new mothers the advantages of well-appointed 5-star creches, 24/365 in-house assistance for the first time-energy-poor 4-6 years and imagine the difference. Thus creating a lovely laboratory to help with finding out how to reliably raise _blueprint prototypical sapiens_ which is our fundamental mission.

[@patcartier8171]

Ok. So, apparently you can't stand freedom. That's fair enough, as you're probably too weak to be comfortable with it. You seek refuge in family life and motherhood; again, that's fair enough. Not everyone is strong enough to walk through life without the crutches that families can provide. But disparaging freedom in public the way you do can infringe on the freedom of others, and _that_ is unacceptable.

[@vivienneb6199]

Take a look at the losers in this comment section, Louise. These are your people. lol

[@patricialewis8307]

Nonsense

[@O8080808O]

Over my life I've observed women give up freedom for security. However, with the specific exception of "mother mode", are allergic to responsibility.

[@rippedlikrambo1]

her first sentence explains whats wrong with women. "I think that" after that its all down hill

[@shaymalchione809]

Cause women can’t have a thought or opinion or you just don’t value them?