IS IT BAD NEWS FOR THE PEUGEOT RCZ ??? OR AN EASY FIX ???

[@djdrwatson]

The comments section is an absolute *goldmine* of information. You learn something new everyday. Well done to everyone that contributed with the solution. 👍

[@sebastianguerre6868]

To be honest I haven't got as much experience as these guys but that sound didn't ever sound like a crankshaft noise to me, big end noise sounds deep and satisfying, the noise sounded like a much higher frequency however the sound recorded by a video camera and often the paint colour recorded by a video camera is often totally different to the actual perception of the individual viewing a live situation. There could be a lessen there. Record the sound of an engine aka the sound filtered out by an electronic device there might be clues there.

[@charlieboyok]

Wow , just goes to show , it's not what you think..... & that kinda " pisses me off " because alot of older people drive small cars & get charged a few grand for something that is not , thanks to the viewers people now could think differently as in more options I feel sorry for the victims out there. Guys bloody great video another Win for the people. 😂

[@johnchincotta1qwdb15]

I concur with you Mr Watson

[@Mind-your-own-beeswax]

What a cracking result lads. 10 out of 10 for the folk who knew what the fault was 👏👏👏👏

[@philtucker1224]

Great outcome lads! The shocking truth is though, that some poor trusting Peugeot customers are shelling out £4000 to have a new engine fitted!

[@andrewmoorey6103]

I've been in the trade for 30 odd years and seen some crazy ideas but this ranks as one of the most over complicated solutions for a problem that doesnt exist I've ever come across. Nuts.

[@paulsz6194]

The French are known for their over engineering ,especially when it comes to cars. They take pride in being "different "...

[@nickmaguire4914]

A solution looking for a problem

[@brettellgood2845]

The noise is caused by sections of the auxiliary belt missing causing the actuator wheel to jump about. If you had run it up with the wheel arch liner out the way you would of seen it. Do at least 1 of these a week at the moment it seems.

[@jon623197]

You're spot on when you said you can't know everything, the most worrying thing is that another garage said it needed a new engine. How can this happen so often? How many very good cars a scrapped through misdiagnosis? That Aldi TT, sorry I mean Peugeot is a good reason to find a good local automotive engineer, not a big garage with lots of fitters and give them all your business. Thanks as always, Jon.

[@duttontube]

Amazing diagnosis. Imagine being told you need a new engine and potentially scrapping the car for such a small fix! Power to all of the subscribers!

[@RQCK0N]

How many people have been hit with massive engine replacement bills when they only needed £150 + labour. Crazy design. Great result for you guys and you took a risk. The new music is so much better, thanks. Love the channel lads 👍

[@stephenricketts7764]

I have said it many times on here, I am 'old school' but I was in the 'big end' camp. I think you were right Rob, it was just a mistake. At least the little man can have a rest now! I bet he went home and watched the Jubilee! Thanks Rob and Chris for an interesting video once again. Thanks to all the subscribers who made the right call, well done all.

[@mikeclifton7778]

As someone else said and I agree, the enormous chunk missing from the former drive belt would've made a heck of a din as it passed the tensioner. A nice lucky break and the comments section is proven correct! Excellent video there Rob.

[@calm4477]

Agreed, I think it was making the tensioner jump each time it passed through it, hence the noise.

[@a100267]

When Chris pulled that cord I expected to hear "Action Man patrol forward!"

[@PaulX]

I love it when the comments come together to help with fixing the cars. Restores a bit of faith in humanity, proper channel

[@garethprytherch9623]

Fair play to those that put you onto the fix. And good on you both for listening 👍👊

[@ianpovey7939]

I think Chris deserved an easy-fix to get over Rob turning up with that Landrover! Well done guys. I was also chuffed to find out earlier that I was a winner in the last Comline competition, that I found out about from watching the channel. Thanks again!

[@tomtodhunter1776]

Glad the commemts section were able to help you get it sorted. Another example of manufacturers over complecating things. There'll be someone out there with a kit to transform it to a more conventional set up. If not, Chris could design one. Top work. 👍

[@sbrad1961]

What a result so much for the original diagnosis🤔🙄 and what makes this channel great 👍 is you take advice from viewers 😀 and check it out what is said 👍👍👍

[@paulbeecham8313]

Nice win lads, had exactly same noise on a mini it was the belt itself had bits missing on the ribs causing the pump driver to clatter like big ends, new belt fitted job done 👌

[@solarflare2199]

Rcz-R owner here. 90k km's , car's still running like a beast. ECU remap on 100 octane fuel + panel filter , rock solid to 300 h. What a car man i LOVE it :)

[@robloxfan4271]

This car is a gem, feel bad for the old owner

[@danijelcar5184]

You should pay attention when buying spare parts for this engine, especially the problem is the belt, which is much thinner on aftermket spare parts and can create a problem, there is not enough friction between the tensioner and the pulley on the water pump, so bether solution is to buy original belt it will last longer. Btw nice car😎 Greetings From Croatia!

[@johnmehaffey9953]

Wow Chris finding out something new about auto’s, there’s hope for little old me yet, my sons 1.2 Clio was putting oil out as quickly as I was putting it in, cracked sump I thought took it to the mechanic who looks after me and it was the oil pump housing, so looks like I’ll stick to doing my crossword at least I can do that, super post guys and well done the guys who put you in the right direction

[@ferglesnerk]

Yep! Very RC on that one guys. And Rob, no need for Chris to stand close to the mic. Even when he's the other side of the car his voice comes through loud and clear. Good job. 👍👍

[@steverandall5814]

All that so the engine can warm up 2 minutes faster? The only thing that makes any sense to me is that Peugeot needed the engine up to operating temperature and on closed-loop control as fast as possible to comply with emissions regulations.

[@chriswilkes4350]

Very nice, Rob and Chris. A nice way to start the day with you two guys. It's encouraged me to go out and fix my bonnet catch!

[@toolrestoration]

And ahhhhhhhh relax !! Rebuilds time . Best bit of the start of the week. Who d have thought a wibbley wobbly would create that noise !!

[@keegan773]

Don’t you love it when a plan comes together. Well done lads and we’ll done those who offered advice.

[@LeeRestoration1275]

old owner must be gutted watching this - well done chaps

[@jaygsi]

Rob said, He’s ok he was offered the car before the video went out

[@michaelhorner2722]

What a result ! Brilliant diagnosis from those in the comments section and as usual well done Rob & Chris.

[@grahamevans9606]

Me and my girlfriend have just aquired one of these from her Dad!!! He had not driven it for 3 1/2 years and he is moving to a warden controlled flat. I have been in the process of recommissioning it....new tires all round, getting rid of fault codes, broken Coil spring etc.... New MOT now and only 45k on the clock we aim to keep it as a second car. Its a boneshaker but does have personality that is so lacking in modern cars.

[@barryrathbone]

Love how rob gets the hard job of going for the coffee!

[@kentmckean6795]

That belt had a chunk out of it. Every time it would go past the "Tension-er/Enabler Thing-a-ma-ginger" it would bounce the wheel against the waterpump wheel and make the noise! I would bet that all that car really needed was a new serpentine belt!

[@garysimpson3900]

Great "Win" for you chaps & well done to those subscribers knowledgeable about these engines for spotting the issue. How many RCZ & Mini owners have been ripped off by garages into going down the "replacement engine" route when the true cost is £180!!!!

[@paultaylor9652]

You did it again guys, fantastic result. Not sure now but there use to be quite a following for these Peugeot's

[@trevorjarvis3021]

Brilliant video Rob and Chris, what a result - wow!! And what I liked was that you did the repairs outside on the ground just like the majority us would. Superb content, total credit to you! ✊👍👏🚙

[@fireflyrobert]

Just watching this has given me deep joy - well done!

[@bloodybrit]

This is what makes your channel so good. I learned something, I chuckled at your humour, you got a result and someone will end up with a bargain.

[@tonymcnamara9368]

It doesn't say much for the technicians that said the engines gone, does it? They certainly didn't do any checks.

[@philbreakspear1027]

Well I done my apprenticeship in the 60s, I’m now in my 70s so I guess you can say I’m old school,but I’ve never heard a noise that accurately mimics a big end like that, it’s very true what they say, you never stop learning….well played again lads…😀

[@jamespowne9953]

Well done guys, can't help but feel sorry for the previous owner, probably cost him a lot of money after a misdiagnosis

[@sruk]

We offered it to him he’s ok 👍

[@paulbeecham8313]

Just shows how genuine you pair are, proper Gents of the highest regard 👌

[@robertbishop9283]

Theres a plethora of knowledge in community guys. Absolutely brilliant 👏👏👏👏

[@robertbowes1001]

I have seen this issue 100s of times with bad belts. Basically that actuator comes in when the engine gets hot to then start circulating the coolant and as it’s squashing the belt on the pulleys that big gap in the belt is what’s making the noise as it’s thumping past the actuator is probably good just change the belt and the pump if it’s ok.

[@jamiepaton5449]

I have had this problem before and you would be very surprised to find that the chunks out the belt can cause bottom end type noises. Glad it's an easy fix guys

[@adeh503]

Totally over engineered set up that water pump talk about trying to reinvent the wheel... Well done fellas great result 👍👍

[@olivers.6420]

I wish I would still live in the UK, I always liked that car. Great job from the other subscribers!!! It is so great to see that there are still people who know what they are doing and care !!!

[@jimschafer9196]

Sweet ... great flip, nice having others out in the cyber world that off there technical skill to the resolution to these kind of problem. NOW why would an engineer design something so flaky ... but it did run 70K until if failed (I wonder if the manual called out that drive belt to be replaced at 60K miles) LOL. Great job guys and great content too. I also liked the music.

[@marksutherland774]

Reminds me on when the alternator went on my 1.9cdti. Sounded like the engine was away to pack in lol because it uses a clutch assembly to engage. Nice win for you guys. It also shows how reading the comments on videos can give some gold, that many will overlook. So credit to those posting comments because it helps everyone.

[@philtucker1224]

That’s a really lovely looking car Rob, I’m sure they’ll be a nice little que of hopeful customers wanting to buy that one! 😊

[@leonthegreat6339]

I like the fast turnarounds, almost as much as the long term projects 👍

[@marcusgent]

Chaps you should pop the engine code name in the description probably help loads of people

[@viviennepatterson5950]

Great that your follows are helping you out. Excellent entertainment.

[@Shinysideup]

Result guys. Everyone deserves a win occasionally.

[@hfraat25]

a wide range of vehicle you tackle. wide range of faults. wide range of viewers and experience. a lot respect to you and the viewers working together. gets results. Well done everyone involved.

[@graham6771]

What a result:) You never stop learning. Interesting.

[@1978JonBullock]

Rob, Chris, once I was sure you guys had it sorted quickly the first thought I had was how much more mowing Chris would get done in that nice weather. Everyone learning along the way.

[@SirGregory]

I can't help but think of the previous owner. Big ends gone at 73K? Unlikely if it's been cared for. They've lost $Ks due to misdiagnosis. I feel for them.

[@mrbakerr1]

I agree, as in I feel sorry for the previous owner, but to be fair a lot of modern Peugeot engines crap themselves prematurely, so is not unheard of.

[@robturner7945]

I’ll be jiggered! That’s a new one to me too. Well done to all the subscribers. Superb result 👍🏻

[@Suzukits]

No wonder there isn’t many about !!! I bet a few have gone over the bridge thinking the bottom end had gone 🤦‍♂️

[@bedclintred]

You have both learnt something new, was worth watching just for the look on Chris's face. I don't believe it! your not turning into Victor Meldrew are you Rob? Chuffed for you both that it was such an easy fix, well done. 😁👍

[@philbo200lambretta3]

Can't help but wonder if that "garage" was looking at making a pretty penny on that "new engine".

[@jamiematto5335]

Had a similar issue with my 206 1.4 hdi. Same noise which a few garages could not diagnose. Sounded like engine was gonna drop out. Finally sorted it myself in the end. New pulley and perfect again.

[@mrman17]

I suspect the noise was where the section with the missing ribs on that belt was getting pinched between the pulleys and tensioner wheel. It may have just needed a belt, but it was still worth putting the pump and tensioner on it anyway.

[@froggy0162]

This is what I came into say. It was absolutely this.

[@cruz0020]

I have the same car, had a similar sound coming from the engine. Luckily the mechanic is a cousin of mine as it was indeed only a damaged belt the culprit. Could easily have been ripped off.

[@davep4589]

I think I’m more shocked this was actually a school day for Chris, something he didn’t know 😉😉, but I’ve always said nobody knows everything just some know more than others, and there’s not a lot Chris doesn’t know, watching his face and explaining it was brilliant, really happy this turned out a quick fix and tbh it was perhaps more informative than you realise

[@gibfear]

Just had this, garage convinced it's knackered.... I tested it by pulling the manual release out on the friction wheel and silence! Even more shocking on more inspection there were 3 small "blisters/bumps" on outside the belt. Changed the belt, fixed - from scrap car to fixed in 15 quid!!! How many cars have gone to the grave, or had the expensive timing chain "death rattle" diagnosed for a stupid envirocrap over complicated setup, it's absolutely stupid.

[@ianfender8142]

Your grin at the end of the video says it all , a team effort

[@markallen7443]

Still looks modern today👍

[@chrisgosling6083]

top fix, makes me wonder how many engines have been changed because of the same problem for £150 in parts and 3 hours of labour , another one lives to drive another day , thanks guys hope you had a good weekend

[@davidorama6690]

The past owner is briefing a lawyer to sue their old mechanic after watching this video! LOLZ

[@akaDavidWebb]

Absolutely extraordinary. What an amazing community and outcome. You guys must have smiles all round!

[@cliffburridge]

Within the first minute, I’d thought ‘uh-oh, Rob’s been on the sauce’. 😀

[@davemundy7237]

WOW, just shows you knowledge is power and it seems lots of the followers of this channel have that knowledge. What a bonus Rob and to see Chris's face, it was a picture

[@Stuart_Johnson_Solutions]

Yeah it's a clutch. The vag 2.0 engine has a similar electric clutch on its mechanical water pump to get it warm really quickly. . That fails just before the cam belt is due!

[@Alexander_l322]

A bucket of muck and roses come to mind. Nice one fellas I think we all in the comments had an idea that it wasn’t as bad as the original diagnosis lead you too believe.

[@Zephieish]

Is that a private plate, guys? I reckon an accountant boss would pay good money for that!

[@AndrewPaul]

I used to have one of these - a 12 plate 2.0 HDI GT in black. I added the styling pack grilles and it looked amazing. I really, really wish I'd not sold it. If I ever see it up for sale, I'll have it back in a heartbeat. I did see it once on the road since and it's obvious someone is properly looking after it as the MOT history is clean through every year.

[@barrybigballs3010]

So your stalking your old car🤣🤣

[@stuartsims7192]

Hi. I work for mini. When the belts have chunks out of them it causes the water pump drive unit to knock against the pump pulley

[@teddyQuake]

yes that is true ,i did the chain thinking it was that, but it was the rubber off a section off the water pump pully, and was hitting the metal tensioner , take note guys

[@timmellor6685]

Rob,so pleasing to see you and Chris so happy with this easy fix thanks to others suggestions,so pleased for you both,it makes up for the headaches you sometimes get ( ie rs 2000).

[@vinniewalton4642]

Could the knocking possibly have been the flat spot on the belt as it went between the pullys

[@Ragnar8504]

Sounds quite likely!

[@charliepower9192]

Yeah that's what I thought too

[@studley73]

Everyday is a school day, credit where its due rob and chris just shows that you read the comments, bestchannel on youtube with 2 down to earth fella's

[@Honky_Konky_Phooey]

How funny I did one today at work. The bath plug tensioner as I know it , no fecking room on the mini to get your hands in🤦‍♂️. I would avoid the garage that suggested a new engine. Disgraceful 😡

[@ttatimbo5830]

Glad you guys figured it out - had this a few times in the past. You will probably have found, that the missing ribs on the aux belt are what cause the noise. That actuator pushing against the back of the belt is most likely what caused the noise when it hits the ‘step’ where the ribs are missing. The actuator is quite strong, and even though the ribs are on the other side of the belt, it creates a flat spot and makes a hurrendous noise. Well done - look forward to the next video! 👍🏼

[@rollingthunder45]

Begs the question, why was the belt in such a state if the car has so much paper work/service records with it? Even so, nice drink in it for you lads!

[@MrMsg1957]

Well done guys, I got it wrong as I thought it was the timing chain. I'm please for you both.

[@hughgarsehotmail]

Even the number plates say Peugeot Sucks :)

[@colinmiles1052]

Total Result! Well deserved! You guys make me smile...time and time again!

[@johnjoseph3382]

The comments section is like an encyclopaedia of knowledge. I was always under the impression it was only my wife that knew everything.

[@sruk]

😂😂🤪

[@seancooper9138]

I wish I’d got here sooner and commented on the last vid. I had the exact same problem on a Peugeot 207, I thought it was the chain rattling but turned out to be the aux belt. Looked exactly the same as yours and the noise was the belt slapping as it went round. New belt and it was cured

[@lyndonwebber1389]

You learn something new everyday 👍

[@littlepippin8445]

Rob, I bought one of these on the back of this video... 2014 MK2... Great little car and it still turns heads and looks to me like a little supercar. Had to have the pads and discs done, and it started leaking coolant from the thermostat housing which apparently was a nasty little job, so has cost me another £1k on top of the £8k I paid for it, but for the amount of fun driving it, and the looks and comments from people about how pretty it is I think it was worth it.

[@neilgott1168]

I think you will find the noise is where there is a chunk out of the belt because it drives off between that and the pulley

[@letsfixit1594]

100%

[@florencedoberman8336]

I wouldn't mind betting that a lot of people have been stitched up with this fault. Great video 👍👍

[@ukcarflippers2220]

My 208 gti made same noise was also the other pulley was out of balance it has a anti vibration thingy majig lol it turned out to be that so have that silly plastic tenstioner if anyone needs one

[@stevehaines6343]

Your roll of the dice turned over a double six On this one. Thanks to some of your subscribers In the know saved you a whole lot of work and expense. We all deserve a bit of luck sometimes and this is yours. Keep it up, love your vids and on to next on.

[@autosport3081]

I hope that You and Chris replaced the water pump friction wheel and have not used the old tatty one as there is no rubber left on it,I'm saying this because I didn't see a brand new shiny one fitted.

[@haydenuk02]

Wow I’m amazed it was that easy thank god to the comment section. I would never have guessed it was that and what a complicated design. Brilliant work and thanks for sharing this with us take care

[@ste4414]

Sorry guys only got half a tank we thought it was full....but Chris lawnmower be running for few weeks for free 😉

[@mcplindgren]

What a result chaps. Love the power of the public to help out with answers 👍🏻 it's amazing how complicated manufacturers can make the simplest of processes but I suppose they have to try and make them as efficient as possible. Glad you got it done quickly for not much money and someone will get a stonking car for the money 😁

[@robis40]

Interesting looking car, Peugeot aren't sold in the U.S. although I wish they were.

[@Ella-richpeasant7614]

Im Australian and I'm about to buy one for my first car in a few weeks

[@DazGeary]

I could listen to those birds for hours, I so miss the country birds in old blighty.

[@cypeman8037]

Power of your subscribers rise to the occasion again. I'm aware you have to sort the chaff from the wheat though.

[@martinstevenson7462]

Great job Rob and Chris a quick easy fix for the both of you this car is going to make someone really happy and a big thanks to everyone who helped out with their comments.