Is it even possible to lose? (Vampire Survivors)

[@ty-mead]

It's incredible to see that there's a 1:1 correlation between NL's sanity and the bitrate.

[@darkercore8185]

good comment

[@itsmebeter3538]

plosive correlation

[@aureliaaelitapaige]

Me laughing as NL instantly rips into a chatter at the start of a video knowing full well he'd never do that to me, a KZbin viewer

[@styxrakash4639]

A respectable adult

[@TheImpishSquire]

Listening to NL putting every format of MTG on BLAST while the Milk Zone's them is bumping in the background is honestly the exact type of content I watch his channel for.

[@CssHDmonster]

less than 1 min into the episode and ryan is already deranged

[@xsision5513]

well he was hit by the “the post about the guy”

[@iocto._.]

that board games rant was amazing. a good board game makes you feel like you understand it

[@xsision5513]

like chess

[@seamusosullivan9105]

I was just shocked he knew what Euchre was, I thought I was the only one under 60

[@bigbeezy5056]

@@seamusosullivan9105 it's still popular in the Midwest! I graduated University three years ago and we had a whole group of people in the rec hall playing just about every day

[@Heatranoveryou]

but hes arguing for brain dead which is different than easy to learn.

[@sergnb0]

It was funny but also deranged. Boardgames are the shit, you just gotta get over the zoomer attention span and play them once to know everything there is to know. 99% of modern videogames surpass any boardgame in complexity by a lot, they're really not that complex at all. It's funny to exagerate but he got carried away. Majority of "super heavy complex" boardgames nowadays can be explained in less than 20 minutes. You don't need to be a nerd to get that shit, you just have to be engaged in the explanation and not turn your brain off cause something is taking more than a few minutes.

[@DerpPanther]

At first I was skeptical of this game but the mindflood of screen noise and the banter rich environment has got me pogging out of my gourd.

[@Lucifers-Stepdad]

It's only like 2.99 - I've got about 30 hours in it and I've still not finished it. It has a huge amount of hidden depth.

[@crispy1691]

@@Lucifers-Stepdad 80 hours in and still missing one steam achievement lol

[@darkstar8196]

The dev seems really cool. Worth buying it just to support him.

[@lewdwig]

None of these words are in the bible.

[@Bongyes]

@@lewdwig Good.

[@TheSquareOnes]

Board game night protip to avoid one of the biggest problems described here: If you're bringing the game, actually learn how it works inside and out before showing up. I love complex games (withing reason) but nobody wants to sit through 30-60 minutes of reading and slowly trying to connect the dots instead of the activity we were all supposed to be doing in that time. Read the rules at least once or twice on your own, maybe watch a review video and if you're really committed you can even set up and run a few practice rounds with yourself just to make sure it all clicks. Everyone else at the table will thank you for not wasting their time and it'll also help the people that might be put off by the idea of a "complex" game since you'll be able to rephrase the rules in a way that hides most of the fiddly bits.

[@kureijimun9335]

absolutely crucial. sounds like NL lived through some shit teaches and that soured whole large segment of board games for him.

[@alejandroreyes9574]

Every single bad boardgame he pretended to explain actually got me pretty hype 😆

[@ellitbo9863]

I want to make a zombie survival board game now

[@jackers0077]

React court NL be like, “my husband’s brother!?!? THAT’S YOUR BROTHER-IN-LAW” Vampire Survivors NL be like, “My wife’s sister’s family…”

[@FaultyWirestv]

I find that to be a useful distinction. Your wife's brother or your sister's husband would have the same title, but possibly different meanings to you.

[@HolyDeviant1]

I think the best experience I ever had with Magic was with my gaming club in a community college: One guy had an old ass Sliver deck. The goal was to beat him. No ban list.

[@64MilestotheGallon]

Gotta love slivers :D

[@gmork1090]

I stopped playing Magic before Slivers ever came out. It'd be easier to get into it if I never played it before. Tried to get back in 3 years ago and my head exploded.

[@FaultyWirestv]

This extended MTG rant perfectly mirrors my experience with MTG as well. I tried to make friends outside of the drafts and events i attended, but every time i tried to interact with MTG players outside of a card shop I was severely disappointed.

[@WaterCat5]

Overconfidence is a slow and insidious killer.

[@invalidusurper6795]

Thank you Wayne from the Darkest Dungeon games

[@newrev9er]

I could really use some more DD1 content.

[@Alactrium]

In this video NL plays board games made by Hideo Kojima

[@NstHarlequin]

That whole board game segment hit too close to home 😂

[@zant1566]

Oh so you mean the entire video? Lmao

[@shaderunner27]

The little hit of nostalgia from the 'swing my arms from side to side' at the end was delightful.

[@YTDaimera]

Worked for nearly 4 years at a board game store and that board game rant was pretty spot on. I barely played any of them but could explain a lot of them pretty well by just watching KZbin videos. NL talking about how he can't stand that there are so many board games and then turning around and gesturing to the PILE of them offscreen made me laugh pretty hard. Sure, my guy, whatever you say.

[@litapd311]

fr lol i didn't expect him to list out 30 board games. i thought i was into board games (own around 7) but he's on another level, his list of "you must play these to call yourself a board game fan" is bigger than the total number of board games i've probably played. but i always love a good point and he's 100% spot on with a lot of his rant

[@MagisterMagnificum]

Hot take: The problem with Commander is not the decks, it's the players.

[@marshallwilver8831]

Holy shit. 13 dead end drive. Me and my sisters used to play the hell out of that game when we were like 12. I totally forgot that game even exists. Also as a magic player of 21 years I am deeply hurt by all the very accurate and very true things you have said this day.

[@gmork1090]

My MtG life was from 97 to around 2005. Tried to get back into it 3 years ago and my head exploded.

[@marshallwilver8831]

@@gmork1090 yeah the power creep is crazy. Wotc did some pretty stupid things from 2019-2021. I still have flashbacks to oko

[@AdderHawke]

Somehow this man has an intimate knowledge of Magic the Gathering but also thinks two minutes is a long turn.

[@xXLadoXx100]

I like it when the blurry man rants about Magic!

[@newrev9er]

The MTG bit is spot on.

[@Dsparky121]

NL in the first minute: I need context to make any sense of this Also NL: Batchest

[@PisToNsSH]

His description of playing board games with his family was starting to sound like an AmITheAsshole post

[@casanovafunkenstein5090]

NL's board game rant is on point and is why I find games like D&D so awkward to get into. I love the idea of the game but I wish I didn't need to do homework just to have fun. Thankfully I have found alternatives that are more streamlined but getting people together to play them is another story entirely.

[@GardinerAlan]

Shoutout to Dutch Blitz though - thought no-one knew that

[@turbosnail413]

game kills you at 30:00 and he made it last 49 minutes

[@Coatsy1985]

I came for the 13 Dead End Drive references and was not disappointed.

[@GrevMarkussen]

Someone needs to get this man som board games by the master, Reiner Knitzia. Simple rules, but tons of juice!

[@andytheaardvark1]

He is getting a lot of mileage out of the being overly specific bit in this episode

[@thelastlostkittengaming7661]

The Niv Mizzet slander at 13:42 is so accurate

[@ElChocoLocoDeLaVega]

I've enjoyed the banter as much as the gameplay.

[@Gureiseion]

Betrayal at House on the Hill is one of my favorite board games, and pretty easy to get into rules-wise. It's only when the haunt happens that the rules ramp up; even then you're not expected to have read through most of the rulebook stuff. As for my favorite haunt scenario, it's the one where the traitor is revealed to be a French Canadian from Mon Bazou, and everyone else needs to flee the Quebec House before he turns them into maple syrup.

[@karmotrineYT]

Totally get the Magic rant myself. Used to play some Standard, some Modern with friends and it just got absolutely ridiculous some times. A couple of them tried to get me into Commander but I just honestly couldn't be bothered with how much work it was. The whole time-to-play thing was so true to be honest, one time we played a house-rules 6-way FFA game and it took over 4 hours from start to finish.

[@chestnutpuck]

I've actually fallen asleep playing Vampire Survivors, but that's really the only way to die.

[@Vaed_]

10:18 Who else but eggman goes to try a restaurant and orders a salad and some fries. At least he's aware that's silly.

[@clayto5494]

The board game rant wasn't valid until he listed off more than half of the obscure board games on my shelf

[@LaserStorm117]

I liked it when he turned this into a board game.

[@joeyclemons8621]

Is Vampire Survivors coming to Switch? Is there anything like it on Switch?

[@rcuhljr]

Are we not going to talk about him taking the power up card to make revivals super powerful and then banishing tiramisu?

[@WheelDragon]

I didn't watch this live, but i already know the chat was just full of peepoTalk peepoTalk

[@SaucerheadTharp]

My brother was a hard core Magic and L5R player. He has guerrilla racks full of card boxes. So can definitely see the barrier to entry. Now a days we do a weekly game of gloomhaven on the PC. The table top version takes forever to setup, but from 7 to 9 we get in 1 to 2 games and have a good social time.

[@suNn.K.O]

Would love NL to turn up on a LoadingReadyRun MTG stream one night or something lmao. They're even all based in Vancouver!

[@hammdogporkington3058]

This would be the most intensely pog crossover

[@Sheamu5]

Wait I remember them, they're still around?

[@TheThursty100]

My mom hates Codenames becuase she doesn't get it in her head that she doesn't have to mentally rotate the board for the card. I mean, she wasn't Captain after she did it for a THIRD TIME, but still

[@ericlamb4501]

To be fair, if you mess up a Caesar salad, you don't deserve to run, much less own a restaurant.

[@baronvonooze4959]

The NL flip flop on Cribbage. Can this man even be trusted?!

[@int3r4ct]

I love how NL knows enough about MTG to sound like he knows what he’s saying but not enough to actually make sense to anyone who plays/played heavily. Kaladesh coming out in 2001 was +2

[@i_am_ergo]

The board game rant made it sound like NL is becoming Universal Studios circa 1995 according to Parker and Stone.

[@lvl91soldier55]

All the magic and board game talk just made me depressed as hell cause I haven't done any of that in a while

[@gmork1090]

Same. Trying to get back into Magic and failing miserably was depressing.

[@MattSpeaksWords]

Board game tech has really come along. There are some kids board games (Look for HABA stuff) which are genuinely pretty fun for parents too.

[@mattyflattop]

These boardgame/magic bits are 💯

[@Crashpunk]

PepoTalk energy was off the chain

[@agotisan1]

It took my man 49 minutes to play a 30 game 😭 Seriously though, the offense NL took to the chatter telling him he’s been ranting about board games for 20 minutes SENT ME 💀

[@Ze7p]

48:23 killed me 😂

[@dudekazoo]

Sitting and waiting for the combo player to go through their million step turn is so much more tolerable on magic arena because they don't have to go through and tell you all of the boring shit they're doing.

[@godlyvex5543]

Yeah, and in some cases can even be really cool to see even when you're the one getting fucked.

[@kungfuchef8500]

Welp, my boardgame group thinks twilight imperium is one of the best bg ever made so I guess NL wouldn't really fit in our group

[@tyja49]

Mottanai such an insane game to pull out the gourd. Incredibly unintuitive with all the card tucking and paragraphs on cards.

[@joshuamitchell3441]

Pog, another King Bible/Garlic run! Hes the best to ever do it, tbh

[@blahthebiste7924]

Still sleeping on Runetracer though

[@N8Maple01]

Tieing your boardgame and Mtg rants together: it souds like you might enjoy the Jumpstart format.

[@Danielhofjr]

I've got to say, I'm really enjoying the spicy/insanity era.

[@maxjudd8148]

as the designated board game explainer… NLs take is very true

[@DanielXDotNet]

Stay pegged everyone!

[@imperiallarch7610]

I love board games that take two hours to explain, but I think I love learning complex rules interactions almost as much as I love playing them, so I'm always having fun during the reading-the-manual phase. The best board game day of my life was the time eight of us in college played a thirteen hour game of Twilight Imperium.

[@DexTag]

Its always such annoying when something is played and some people feel like they have to compare it to whatever they can Just enjoy the stuff

[@WaterCat5]

Some people enjoy comparing stuff ;)

[@kevinbarbour1379]

Yo, you gotta get the card game "Spicy", our group loves it.

[@Lucifers-Stepdad]

I wish he didn't get one guyed vis-a-vis the torronas box. Banishing when is on level 8 makes it arguably the best passive in the game. Also he's very correct about magic :( I love it so much but it is kinda... Complicated?

[@blahthebiste7924]

12.5% is better than 10% but it also doesn't evolve anything. And costing a level to banish it is a real cost too. Imo it's pretty balanced

[@Lucifers-Stepdad]

@@blahthebiste7924 I guess if you have your upgrade for Omni unlocked it seems less good but the buff to EVERYTHING is huge, especially area I find.

[@TheErtagon15]

@@blahthebiste7924 it evolves 2 weapons tough if u mean for NL then yeah it doesn't for now

[@blahthebiste7924]

@@TheErtagon15 Wait what does it evolve?

[@TheErtagon15]

@@blahthebiste7924 queen sigma's weapon and a secret character's weapon, who you unlock in inverted inlaid library

[@cowboi61]

NL is a bejeweled deluxe gamer in denial

[@michaelcordeiro12]

Complicated board games should all have an "easy mode" where they introduce you to like half of the mechanics and then a regular mode where they introduce you to the other ones. So you can play with a friend group one day on easy mode and some other time on regular. Maybe 3 "difficulties" for some games.

[@teejayburger2136]

Cosmic encounters kinda does this where there are like 3 huge optional mechanics that greatly increase the complexity

[@michaelcordeiro12]

@@teejayburger2136 seems like a good idea

[@MoogleEmpMog]

I disagree with almost every aspect of NL's *reasoning* on board and card games... ... but he's right about Commander being pure distilled misery, and about many of the fantastic simple-yet-tactical Euros he actually does like, even if we come to those realizations from very different directions. (Also it sucks that he only got to play draft Magic where the players kept the cards they drafted, rather than the version where you draft, play, then put all the rares in a pool for people to pick from in order of wins during the draft. The latter avoids raredrafting for constructed/resale and is a much more fun experience.)

[@kaseyau]

Where are the laundry anecdotes that I subscribed for? :(

[@bigbeezy5056]

20:30 I'm so Midwest when he said Euchre I started subconsciously yelling at my partner for calling it on my loner.

[@litapd311]

when your partner calls it on your godhand: you piece

[@bigbeezy5056]

@@litapd311 😂

[@mattwilliams2935]

Yeah but Machi Koro is just a better ligher weight Monopoly. This is an example of board games getting better and simplifying over time. Clue Museum Caper is where it's at full stop

[@viyami]

Best format in Magic confirmed: Jumpstart.

[@gmork1090]

Played Magic from 97 to 2005. Tried to get back in 3 years ago. Haha.. yeahno. Figuring out how to build a time machine to go back and stop Hitler is less complicated.

[@myspicyclips6402]

woah NL knows dutch blitz?? thought that was just an amish thing but it’s a very pog game

[@blahthebiste7924]

All Magic slander is warranted

[@TK-zd7ym]

That board game rant was kinda funny but hit home for me too. I have sat down to far too many tables with friends and they're busting out the Game of Thrones or Eldritch Horror games and those are just awful games because you spent the first hour sitting there getting the game mechanics explained, then when you play, someone is constantly busting out KZbin or Reddit looking for answers on stuff. It just gets too complicated and takes the fun out of hanging out with friends. I prefer games like Azul or Carcasonne now now that I've hit my 40's

[@liarugardklse4335]

The fucking MTG rant is so good holy

[@Ahriman1000]

13:26 if he thinks M:tG is bad for that, this man has clearly _never_ played or watched a single game of post 2010 YuGiOh in his life

[@jasondrown9087]

The utter disrespect NL shows towards peachbone and ebony wings is depressing. One of my favorite unities

[@Silas_MN]

ebony hasn't shown up at all in his picks, he might not have it unlocked

[@jasondrown9087]

@@Silas_MN Now that you mention it I think you're right.

[@Framplepants]

He literally cant unlock ebony wings till he upgrades peachone...... He keeps getting on guyed in chat onto THE SAME ITEMS EVERY RUN

[@myspicyclips6402]

@@Framplepants tried pentagram once and died with it, now we’ll never see it again :(

[@jasondrown9087]

@@myspicyclips6402 sad but true. Pentagram Evolved op

[@chefgoldblum1450]

I haven't watched the video yet, but is this game any good/does NL make it entertaining at all? Would love to hear your thoughts on this.

[@tongpoo8985]

Cant lie, its a lot of fun. Really simple game

[@FallenSkater1940]

The game feels like it was built for NL. The perfect background for banter

[@genieinthepot2455]

Maybe and possibly

[@chefgoldblum1450]

I'm excited, I'll watch it.

[@TheErtagon15]

Ive been playing it as updates have been coming out since NL first played at the beginning of the year its very fun

[@nathanlynch3268]

I love that this game is coming to Xbox Gamepass on Nov 8th

[@EmorterCS]

still disappointed NL didn't just rip the land in half in front of them -2

[@ChalkPopsicle]

Turning off damage numbers helped with my bitrate & made the screen much less noisy. Hope it’s suggested to him sooner or later.

[@duglikk]

Like what he did at the end of the vid?

[@idfrigginkman]

@@duglikk assuming commenters wait til the end of a video instead of commenting as they watch is a fool's gambit

[@ChalkPopsicle]

Punished for not watching the last 15 seconds of a 50 minute video 😔

[@idfrigginkman]

@@ChalkPopsicle I'm with you, my comment didn't say which team I'm a part of

[@razzen88]

I like the part where he ranted about board games for a loooong time

[@DoctorNoMD]

I was not expecting that. :)

[@sirondium]

Oh you’re supposed to draw treasure cards face up after defeating a monster together in munchkin because otherwise there’s no way for the cleric to ever take treasure cards from the discard pile OOOOHHHH (cleric is by far the best class fyi)

[@flaviocbrangel]

In my heart I always knew NL played big dumb green beater ins MtG

[@bugra-yildirim]

THE POST ABOUT THE GUY IN THE CHATTT

[@sonofhades57]

I should've known that NL's inability to read would be the downfall of Brotato. EDIT: Should've been obvious in retrospect that NL would go mono-red. Red players also can't read.

[@blacklion79]

NL loves party games and doesn't like euro-style games

[@LoneCactus-VEVO]

Interesting to see how NL has been gaslit into thinking that garlic is a good item.

[@blahthebiste7924]

It honestly used to be, and still has utility for knockback or early leveling, the real bait is pummarola

[@LoneCactus-VEVO]

@@blahthebiste7924 To me, they're both dead item slots. Its damage is inexcusable even when evolved, there's unevolved items that do more damage than it and I don't think it's small amount of utility makes up for it. Only reason to ever pick it up is if you're doing a fun arcana run or if you're playing as the tree cause it starts with it.

[@blahthebiste7924]

@@LoneCactus-VEVO I think any character that starts with a weapon that is horrible for leveling (Axe, Fire Wand, Santa Water) can have real struggles in the early game but be fine later. And yeah, there are better options to kick-start XP gain, but you aren't always offered them before maxing out rerolls and whatnot

[@Smonsequenses]

@@LoneCactus-VEVO When you don't have all the unlocks yet the game is just harder, which makes Garlic seem better

[@R055LE.1]

NL would love Yu-Gi-Oh! Master Duel 😉

[@seifer447]

I'm really glad NL never got into yugioh. His guy going through 17 triggers is just every first turn in the game now. Magic is getting there, unfortunately.

[@Fuzzydicee]

im the opposite in marvel snap, i snap back instant

[@PrivateWatermellon]

My hero

[@Trevor21230]

My man's complaining about MtG when all he knows is FNM. Bro, you haven't _truly_ played Magic until you've played it with just 1 or 2 friends at one of your houses with pizza and beers. _That's_ what it's about. Drafting can get fucked, and good sealed events (ie. pre-releases) are too few and far between to really keep up your interest in the game. And FNM is just...like why the hell would you want to go to a shop to play with strangers instead of just playing with people who are already your friends. Eventually you get to know their decks, you don't have to read every card anymore, you can give them shit when they play the Sliver deck and threaten to play your Counterspell deck in revenge. It's just a good time.

[@timm8o475]

I won't stand for dutch blitz slander

[@curaniel2307]

Stupid, simple, fun board games: Fluxx Skulls Can't Stop You already know Clue is still goated

[@airrun9950]

N.L. try the card game Pit. Need 6 to 8 players; but fits your desire of simple play mechanics.

[@chillpenguin7679]

How many people have been watching NL play this game for how long of a period of time, without telling him that you can skip the single and triple chest reward animations by hitting R click? Because it's great! Just means more NL banter!

[@marzgamingmaster]

You can do it with penta chests now too.

[@blahthebiste7924]

He's known forever, he chooses not to (and even says so in this video)