Is it Possible to Beat Pokemon Red/Blue with just an Eevee?

For our 10th challenge we finally get to determine whether a Pokemon that only learns Normal damaging moves can defeat Kanto on its own. Many say it's not possible, but then again this video exists so....
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[@YellowLucario99]

I spent like 15 minutes feeling like you were such a clown because eevee learns bite at level 37, so you could’ve just bit all the gastly. And then I remembered that bite is normal type in gen 1. And that I was the real clown.

[@KiddsWithClass]

@Bádog Ember bite, not bide

[@Brajxdv]

Bite - Normal type move Bide - Normal type move that doesn't affect type effectiveness (bad english) in gen 1

[@braidonsaelens5174]

C l o w n

[@hwoarangthedoorbell]

Matthew Maybe the real clowns were the goofs we made along the way.

[@EvilApple567]

You weren't a clown for not remembering Bite was normal in Gen 1, your big red nose and floppy shoes came from thinking the Dark type was in Gen 1.

[@jcnot9712]

*wins fair and square* JRose: that was a bit of a lucky fight, but we’ll take it.

[@imafaux7424]

*Wins fairly* Him in half the videos: I was to lucky I need to reset

[@phoenixchen1231]

One good thing about Eevee run is that you don't have to press B button multiple times after each battle just to cancel evolution...

[@ZorotheGallade]

Not looking forward to gen 2 Eevee challenge. Unless you feed it lots of herbs to keep the friendship low, but then you wouldn't be able to use Return.

[@CalamityVirus]

@@ZorotheGallade could use frustration. But the effort involved outways the time lost pressing b as you gain friendship when walking anyway

[@ZorotheGallade]

@NJShell2 I think Prof.Elm gives you one when you hatch the Togepi egg, you're right

[@YukeWeiss]

Honestly waiting for a run where he's like "but then I forgot to hold down B and it evolved and I lost all this progress"

[@MR_FIAT]

@@YukeWeiss happened to me doing a Pidgey run on leafgreen.

[@dislexyc]

Gen1 names are still better than "galar cave number 1" and "galar cave number 2"

[@Mqstodon]

*galar mines still a more interesting name

[@jo6re3]

RosesBubble plus mines are actually named that way if they’re owned by the same company

[@dislexyc]

@Jacob Perry are you ok, bud?

[@rjante2236]

@@dislexyc He's in denial

[@Goro_Maj1ma]

​@Mqstodon honestly Galar Mines 1 and 2 is even more boring than just Galar caves 1 and 2.

[@wabai_879]

This is the best part of quarantine watching jrose

[@TheBluemango101]

Dude legit, this is the only thing keeping me sane

[@puma88bnu]

I also look forward to his videos

[@user-lh2hx5xf4e]

truer words have never been spoken

[@karlrudd4818]

Me too

[@MishKoz]

@Ferdinand von Aegir what

[@OkMakuTree]

A sudden arrival Fighting for survival It’s time for his revival The one and only Fival

[@themellonchef7217]

This references a song right? Can somebody give me the title, I can't find it 😅

[@AutisticPotato7]

I need the song for this

[@danielconant3653]

It is just a poem

[@LunarWingCloud]

NOTHING CAN STOP YOU DIAMOND AND PEARL Oh wait

[@danielconant3653]

@@LunarWingCloud Where did that come from?

[@waffloesh7862]

Took 10 runs for Bruno to be a reasonably difficult E4 member, and he’s still the easiest. Awesome

[@wingedmirage4226]

Wait until the Weedle run :)

[@azurehorizon4485]

Itll be a fountain of strategy and tactics. Surely we wont have to resort to plan Press A

[@wingedmirage4226]

AzureHorizon 448 Poison hax ftw

[@tabeebyeamin]

@@wingedmirage4226 Nah I don't think Weedle is gonna be possible. A KZbinr who specializes in weedle runs was only able to beat the game using items, he tried without items and got stuck at Giovanni's gym I believe.

[@Dukstless]

@@tabeebyeamin Hey, at least Weedle is possible in some way. Caterpie and Metapod are impossible, because they learn no moves that can hit Ghosts, period. Even Magikarp has Dragon Rage from an event (and Bubble from G2 event if you're allowing tradebacks).

[@Iddjy]

In the French version, Rock Tunnel was translated to "La Grotte" (literally "The Cave"), so... I think that gets the top spot for least creative landscape name.

[@_Ytreza_]

Still everyone seems to know what you are talking about when you mention "la grotte"

[@NoLimitSquad]

Lmao

[@Nick-yq5uz]

Brock is literally a stone wall on all of these challenge runs.

[@saw31489]

I see what you did there

[@xellanchaos5386]

Except Ghastly, who phases right through.

[@XaltuthusTheExhalted]

I feel like NPCs always hype the gym leaders up as being badass even if most people don't have problems with Brock. Maybe JRose just represents the common man who has to defeat Brock with his Jigglypuff starter instead of Bulbasaur.

[@guidomicheli2230]

Great video Jrose, just a small detail I learned last year about gen1 Due to the awesome coding those game have, normal-type pokémon are inmune, I repeat, INMUNE, to Body Slam's paralysis, so yeah, you could never paralyze the Pidgeot, but I couldn't paralyze your Eevee either.

[@Campaign2024]

I hope he finds this comment. False Swipe Gaming noted this, too in one of their videos, too and it's crazy how Pokémon can't be statused by moves that share their type.

[@onetwothreefour3957]

i mean, burning a fire type would be weird indeed, but then again not being able to paralyze a normal type pokemon with body slam but very much being able to do so with electric type moves is a bit too gamey for me

[@rainpooper7088]

Aarantula - Gaming Challenges Yeah, I think he mentioned it in his video on how good Tauros was.

[@raininggiraffes7087]

That's some good information. Although sorry to say, but I found it really funny when you spelt immune wrong twice after emphasizing it lol.

[@InsanityForce]

​@ At least Tri Attack didn't inflict Burn, Paralysis or Freeze in gen 1.

[@Enchanted_Runes]

Hey, Jrose, thank you for saying what you did. MDB is the nicest guy and his genuine. I think people are just annoyed he puts a new pokemon challenge video every Staruday. Honestly. Its rude of people to make fun of others in my eyes, so I appreciate you mentioning it. Good content! Keep up the good work man!

[@Walkerman379]

*Staryuday

[@Enchanted_Runes]

@@Walkerman379 oh snap, you right!

[@aetarz]

Just saying people who make fun of people probably have the intention of being rude.

[@dynastystar5515]

I personally find most things about him annoying. Him saying "leave a comment down below if >insert the rest of what he says here

[@evernoire7026]

@Silly Pup Productions yeah this. Like honestly, some of his earlier challenges had way too many plugs, but it's gotten so much better over time that I (almost :D) look forward to his challenges as much as I do to Jrose's. So I definitely share that sentiment, even though I'm quite picky when it comes to the YT-creators I like and use to watch on a somewhat regular basis. Still, all of that has nothing to do with him as a person, and I'd go as far and say that in 80% of the cases, you cannot even come close to being able to judge someone's personality through their content. And even then - it's just uncalled for. If you just dislike the content, pick someone else, not that hard of a concept

[@DannieRay23]

regardless of glitch status, skipping marowak with the doll means using an item in an itemless run.

[@Vuallum]

Updoot for attention

[@SPACKlick]

Algorithm, please notice and elevate this comment.

[@edgevalmond6173]

True on that. Also, I do agree that it is a glitch as well. As, if it wasn’t you wouldn’t have a need for the Slyph Scope. I mean what sense does it make to put in two ways to get pass one thing? When the Slyph Scope makes it an unavoidable battle? Why also would they change it in the remake, if it wasn’t a glitch? Jrose makes some valid points. I really don’t care how someone chooses to play a game, but at least have the sense to admit when you’re wrong. As the points they make about the doll is easily debatable, and can easily be proven incorrect. That aside, it’s still an item-less run, so it doesn’t matter anyway.

[@leraffl1271]

@@edgevalmond6173 it is not considered a glitch by speedrunners, just as the badge boost reappliance is not. You will see runners skip the tower in the "Glitchless Any%" category. Still items are to be avoided by rules so the tower's still a thing. I wonder if he wants to try again with magikarp and maybe USE the doll for it to see if he can make it to Agatha...

[@_lostglory]

damn your right

[@blinkkff]

30:05 when you said mirror move would have been bad, cause you may have gotten paralyzed, I just want to let you know that body slam cannot paralyze normal types in generation 1, due to a mechanic where status effects from attacking moves cannot affect the same type as said attacking move. Therefore, body slam will never paralyze a normal type.

[@Begeru]

edgeluca wow I never knew that. But in later gens I think they took that out. Like I think electric types could get paralyzed until Gen 6 or 7.

[@Firescizor]

That is in fact one of the reasons why Tauros is so strong in Gen I. The fact that it can NEVER be paralyzed by Body Slams from both Golem and Rhydon is huge for it.

[@roryburch861]

@NJShell2 Yeah Psychic types can have Stat Drops from Psychic. I can't believe there yet more Gen 1 glitches I didn't know about.

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

this is actually not true. Don't believe me? you can try it yourself. Do a link battle with yourself and body slam a normal type. It will paralyze. The only actual status immunities are poison immune to poison, ice immune to freeze, and fire types are immune to burn. Nothing is immune to paralysis. Electric types can even by paralyzed by electric moves.

[@Begeru]

@@HopUpOutDaBed Electric-type Pokémon are immune to paralysis since Gen VI

[@N12015]

5:54 Good thing we don't have lame names anymore. Imagine if the galar caves where called Galar mine and Galar Mine n°2, not even West and East Galar mine.

[@thisisiampie6946]

Sounds like diablo 3 dungeon names to me lol

[@N12015]

@@thisisiampie6946 The worst thing is that the second one is not even a mine.

[@juicyjuicethejuice4451]

@@N12015 You can think of it as some sort of abondoned or not-in-use mine since it still has some rails.

[@N12015]

@@juicyjuicethejuice4451 CALL IT EX GALAR MINE THEN. Even that is more creative and give some lore to the region. Also, if that mine is the abandoned, why is it the number two?

[@jesalt8230]

@@N12015 Because it was the second mine?

[@Carlitonsp1]

Damn, Gastly is so high tier in this challenge that he's actually holding down other Pokemon.

[@sansthedevil]

sorry but poliwag is way better, gastly tier S is a bias lol

[@andresmithe298]

@@sansthedevil ...the guy was just making a joke about its type and relative ability in the challenge. don't worry, nobodies denegrating your precious poliwag

[@sansthedevil]

@@andresmithe298 then we cool lol

[@magikarpking886]

maybe ponyta can beat its record, as long as you land as many fire spins as possible. I mean, your opponent can't move.

[@Eroil]

@@sansthedevil they're both in the same tier? And he explained since so many Pokemon throughout the run just couldn't hit Ghastly it was a breeze, Poliwag was hard at the beginning so it wasted time.

[@rainpooper7088]

At first, I was like “Why didn’t he use the Dig TM”, turns out Eevee can’t actually learn Dig until Gen 3. Gen 1 movepools, why must you be so barren?

[@JohnyMCness]

Dont you mean...NORMAL hahahahaha ima see myself out

[@MrWereWolfGirl]

I swear some mons get only stab moves and maybe one or two non-stab moves then you look at something like clefairy and it can learn anything and everything or almost everything lol it can be so freaking broken if you want it to be xD

[@kwayke9]

And then you have both Nidoran lines and most other normal types with movepools bigger than the actual moon

[@AmazinglyAwkward]

Gen 1, why must you be? Ftfy ;)

[@Bewear.the.Adjuster]

I've stopped questioning Gen 1 move pools since I found out that Ekans can learn Earthquake and Fissure. I'm not sure how a fifteen-pound snake can do that, but yeah.

[@ThinIceOwl]

You always ask "how's it going?" at the beginning of your videos, but I never remember to answer. It's going pretty well, how are you?

[@Csdoni]

Wholesome and underrated comment

[@YukeWeiss]

This has become must watch quarantine KZbin. I don't know how you manage to make playing the exact same game interesting every time, but here we are. I can't wait to see which Pokemon were impossible to win with at the end.

[@MisterZebra42]

The only ones that should be completely impossible are Caterpie and Magikarp, as they only have normal type attacking moves and can’t learn TMs and thus can’t damage ghost types. Everything else aside from maaaaaybe Weedle will be able to get through everything with enough levels, strategy, and luck, it just might be a bit of a slog like it is here

[@7thlegendaryknight]

Frankly I would be okay if he used a Lv. 100 Weedle with maxed stats. Save after every Elite Four. I just want to know if it is possible, I don't want him to suffer for to long.

[@spike1000]

Weedle is possible, but by far the hardest Pokemon in the game to attempt a solo challenge with. You need insane amounts of luck to get past Agatha and even more luck than that if you want to do an itemless run as Weedle.

[@TheHadMatters]

This call to general courtesy was the most wholesome thing I've seen in a while. So humble, so thorough, so innocently unbiased. Just made me feel nice, like the entire series, really.

[@Bewear.the.Adjuster]

15:16-16:31 -- PREACH! I'm pretty sure I found MDB through watching your challenges via the Algorithm™, and I love the content from both of you, so hearing you say this was truly heartwarming to me.

[@tuanthanhnguyen7409]

Signs that you are a jrose11 fan: You pronounce Lorelei "Lora-lee" You say rival fievel.

[@Otonio_Bruno]

Going to be completely honest here, I can't say Rival Five anymore without have to spend 2 seconds thinking before doing it, Rival Fievel literally became ingrained in my head 😆

[@MatiasMishel96]

And make fun of Elite Four Bruno.

[@user-lh2hx5xf4e]

and making fun of Gary for using a potion on his fully evolved starter in the battle before entering victory road.

[@holctomaz2562]

And pronouncing arcanine ar-kE-nein

[@Just_A_Dude]

@@holctomaz2562 Wolfey got to me first on that one. I can only ever call it Ar-kah-NEE-nay.

[@OmegaTyrant]

When your pokemon is neutral against all the starters, I think the best choice for the Rival is to pick Bulbasaur. Even though in the case of physical attackers the Blastoise line might be a bit harder, when the Rival picks Squirtle they lose Gyarados, who when you don't have Electric moves, is a ton more threatening than his Exeggcute/Exeggutor, which are also a lot less threatening than the Venusaur because of the rival's horrible moveset for them (whhhyyyyyy did they think it was a good idea to have his Exeggutor just have weak Normal attacking moves and not even have a full moveset in the Champion fight?!). Additionally the Rival gets Gyarados as soon as Pokemon Tower and always has Hydro Pump (and its Dragon Rage can be very threatening too early on), whereas the Exeggcute (and Growlithe too for that matter) don't evolve until the Champion fight, so that adds significantly more challenge to the Rival fights throughout the game. Charizard though will pretty much always be the worst choice for the Rival if your pokemon isn't weak to Fire moves, as the Growlithe/Arcanine he would have without Zard isn't much better than his Exeggcute/Exeggutor, and his Charmeleon/Zard gets Rage as soon as the Pokemon Tower and keeps it for the rest of the battles, which if the random AI picks it pretty much guarantees victory for you unless you're almost dead.

[@OmegaTyrant]

@NJShell2 Here is what I think of for Yellow; Exeggutor becomes a mainstay on all his teams and he completely loses Gyarados and Arcanine, while the three that get swapped around is Cloyster, Ninetales, and Magneton. They all evolve at the same time by Silph Co so no obvious early advantage like with the Red/Blue Gyarados, but the Cloyster does get better moves faster, as by Silph Co it has Clamp and Aurora Beam while the Ninetales has Ember for STAB until it gets Fire Spin in penultimate Route 22 battle and the Magneton is stuck with Thundershock until the Champion battle. The Cloyster is also just going to always be an absolute bitch for any physical-based attacker, and when compared to the Rival's Vaporeon, Vaporeon has Water Gun for its Water STAB until Route 22 where it gets Hydro Pump, while it never gets Ice coverage better than Aurora Beam when Cloyster gets Ice Beam for the Champion fight, and Cloyster gets STAB off the Ice moves too unlike Vaporeon. So the Cloyster will usually be better for Blue than the Vaporeon unless maybe for Fire types (who can hit Cloyster neutrally with STAB special attacks while the Vaporeon will be much tougher for them to take down). When it comes to comparing the Eeveelutions with each other, Jolteon is the clear cut best of them; they all have great Special but it's the fastest pokemon you'll fight in the game and it crits over a quarter of the time while the others are just slow. The Jolteon is also just completely superior to the Magneton, as Magneton is much slower with just slightly better Special and is stuck with just Normal moves for non-Electric coverage. Then the Flareon is obviously the worst, as all Flareon's Attack stat just gets used for is Bite and Quick Attack, and those Normal moves are the only additional coverage it gets, whereas Ninetales trades a bit less Special for much better Speed, better durability, and Confuse Ray in the Champion fight. His Ninetales never gets Flamethrower unlike Flareon, but with Ninetales' Speed it having Fire Spin is very dangerous if you can't outspeed it. Overall if you're doing a solo pokemon run in Yellow and the pokemon is neutral with all the Eeveelutions, the Jolteon team has to be the hardest one, as it gets the best Eeveelution, and he gets better picks in his Water and Fire type. Even if your pokemon is weak to one of the other Eeveelutions the Jolteon team might still be the best because the Cloyster/Ninteales are probably bigger threats (and if you're any Grass type but Tangela, you're going to be 4X weak to Jolteon's Pin Missile too, so it + Ninetales > Flareon + Magneton for them). Main exceptions I see is if you're a dual Rock/Ground type (who just invalidate Jolteon so it doesn't really matter if it's better than Magneton, while STAB Rock Slide hurts Cloyster more than STAB Earthquake hurts Vaporeon, so Vaporeon + Magneton is going to be harder than Cloyster + Jolteon), or you're a Fire type (their Fire moves are hurting Cloyster more than their coverage is hurting Vaporeon, and maybe a paralysis from that Magneton can cripple them for Vaporeon). Tangela is maybe the only case I can think of where the Flareon team would be hardest, as it counters Jolteon pretty well (Electric resistance and its great Defense means a X2 Pin Missile from Jolteon is still not doing much), but then that level 63 Ninetales on the Jolteon team is probably still a bigger wall for it than the level 65 Flareon, while Magneton isn't doing any better against Tangela.

[@gilesroberts3709]

27:26 “If she hits with Hypnosis, you can try but it’s over.” Chills. Chills, man.

[@CobaltCruiser]

Giovanni...Cyrus...Ghetsis. All of them, wimps among the true villain of Pokemon: The Hiker in Dark Cave with two Geodudes and a Graveler

[@samkang4396]

I understand that you are doing red/blue with many of the pre-evolutions, but I cannot wait to see a non-red/blue run. Excited for the distant future and still love your content

[@igorlopes8463]

Well, he will move to GS after finishing gen 1

[@ryansanagustin6553]

Igor Lopes well he’s only on part 10 of I’ve believe 53 so yeah it’s probably gonna be at least a little while before then

[@ckillgore]

I feel kinda giddy when I see comments like this, because on what of the earliest runs in this series I pointed out he could do this with every gen, thus being a near endless source of content if he ever runs out of videos to make. It got a lot of upvotes, and then a few videos later he said he was planning on doing G/S. Someone would have had the idea eventually, but I feel as if I wished it into existence. Only time will tell.

[@twopatt2177]

This is all I wait for during isolation

[@RocketJo86]

You know what's a thing I love about Mah-Dry, Pikasprey and you? That you actually care and try to talk against all those haters around. There are far to many people out there encouraging bad behaviour, so it's so nice to see just normal nice people.

[@MahDryBread]

Thanks! I just try my best to reason with people. Sometimes someone just had bad information and is getting carried away when they talk about KZbinrs, you know? Someone will see one or two things in a video and assume someone's an asshole. It's like people forget that we're human and not just some character.

[@cereal7591]

I thought you were gonna say that they're all Canadian. Though still, Canada's ecosystem mainly consists of Snow, Moose and well-intended, polite Homo Sapiens, so it checks out. But this arises a question. Why are the most notable Pokémon Challenges KZbinrs all Canadians? Is it a mere coincidence or do they have some sort of advantage over the rest of the species??

[@yawninglion1677]

@@cereal7591 Well, when all you can do up there is play hockey and eat syrup, you've more time to do dumb challenges :P

[@cereal7591]

@@yawninglion1677 I dunno, I was thinking throughoutly and one big reason may be their Free Health Care. Just think about it, their Challenge runs are basically Severe Medical conditions of Self-induced mental and psychologyc harm, that may develop additional serious complications. Just to name a few: chronic sleep deprivation due to footage capture and video editing. Abrupt mood swings, usually preceded by characteristic shouts, such as "Seriously, YOU'RE USING ANOTHER FULL RESTORE??", "Of course, you hit 3 Hydro Pumps in a row and I miss with Tackle" and "A crit? This is such BS!". This aforementioned acute rage episodes have also been proven to greatly increase Systolic Arterial Pressure and induce inflammatory states in Cerebral blood vessels, therefore increasing their risk of acute cardiovascular events and aneurysms. Additional mental disorders include severe PSTD, progressively delirious thoughts ("I can totally beat Steven with a single Wobbuffet" or "Doing a 53 part-series of Gen l solo runs over a few weeks is a great idea") or obsessive fixations towards individual people, this latter behavior actually ended up in a very tragic story. A poor woman that goes by the name of "Lorelei" has been subjected multiple times to be locked in her workplace, for extended periods of time, with one of the affected patients, who keeps elaborating complex methods to force the confinement of said young woman with him. The patient in question calls his methods "Softlocks". So, as you can see, doing this runs quickly depletes your sanity and health in general. Do you think anybody in America or other countries with a shitty Health Care could POSSIBLY AFFORD all the doctors, meds and the huge amount of therapy needed when you do this types of runs? Nah, there's no way. Free Health Care is mandatory.

[@kourii]

@@cereal7591 Wait is Pikasprey Canadian too? Wow, that's statistically improbable. Smallant is also Canadian, while we're at it.

[@aaronstephen3058]

Who’d have thought that you’d have to use Bide again in a run? Well done, Jrose!

[@PrinceDman]

Do you know why he didn't mimic night shade instead? I don't think he explained it

[@halfpace1462]

@@PrinceDman those ghastly don't have night shade and he didn't have access to mimic yet

[@diamondeye1897]

​@@halfpace1462you can just give a pokedoll to the copycat in saffron so he could've gotten it

[@woofexe4050]

Geologist 1: So men, we have found yet another stone cavern. Any ideas on the name for this newly found cavern? Geologist 2: There are just so many names we could chose... It could be impossible to narrow it down to just one! Geologist 3: *takes a deep breath* Rock Tunnel. All: ... Geologist 1: ...Brilliant...

[@Firescizor]

ROCK Tunnel, the DARK Cave... ICE Path... the only saving graces are Victory Road, Mt. SIlver and Whirl Islands

[@dasirrlicht5415]

I think the ice path gets an excuse for being at least memorable.

[@virra98]

reminds me of a skit: Pokemon scientist 1: "How about Ekans? It's like... snake... but backwards.." Pokemon scinetist 2: "... ... ... It's perfect"

[@Firescizor]

@@dasirrlicht5415 All of them are very memorable! The names are the uncreative thing. Ice Path music is POG thou

[@MahDryBread]

Yeah I botched this one

[@Jrose11]

Nah, it was good. Also why I wanted to wait a bit even though people kept asking me to do Eevee, didn't want to take way from your runs

[@MahDryBread]

@@Jrose11 I appreciate that! Plus, you know how the optics would look. People always rush to worry about if two KZbinrs are feuding.

[@MahDryBread]

@@Jrose11 MAN, I just got to the part where you started talking about me! Thank you so much, I really appreciate that!

[@TheDjbz]

To be fair to you on “botching” it... Who ever actually uses or thinks about bide? I mean it’s garbage 99% of the time. I’d probably have sold it within a minute of getting it off Brock

[@nickbrennan8979]

@@TheDjbz I mean, you're not wrong about Bide rarely ever being useful. This just happened to be that magical 1%

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Just try to imagine this tiny cute little Evee constantly jumping up and down on top of an onix using "body slam".

[@Campaign2024]

Can't wait to see the late game Pokémon start getting used. Especially curious about Grimer since it doesn't learn a third move until level 30+

[@mathuasher9184]

How kind of you to release this video perfectly timed to accommodate me getting off of work.

[@nathanielgrey4091]

Lucky. It popped up after my lunch break.

[@VideoGameVillians]

Not only does the pokedoll skip seem like a glitch, you can't use items in battle for these challenges anyway so it's a no can do in these runs regardless

[@leraffl1271]

It is however not considered a glitch by speedrunners, just like the badge boost thing. They are both considered oversights since in principle they DO what they're supposed to do, namely escape non-battle encounters and increase your stats by 9/8 respectively. HOWEVER they result in unexpected things such as running away from marowak or reappliance of the boost. Soooo... I like to take it the way speedrunners do since i watch them regularly, but you are right, the pokedoll would still not be desired for this run. Would be interesting to see how far one could get with a magikarp, since the Margikarp run ended in the Tower if i remember correctly. (Please correct me if I'm wrong) I mean you still wouldn't be able to win against the E4 due to Agatha, but still.

[@exantiuse497]

@LeRaffl How is the badge boost glitch not a glitch? Badges are supposed to raise the pokemon's respective stats by 12.5%, but due to faulty code the boost is applied several times if you use stat altering moves, it's the definition of a glitch. If speedrunners are allowed to use the glitch in "glitchless" runs it's because the glitch is so hard to avoid, the only way would be to ban all stat boosting moves and require the runner to reset every time the opponent uses a move that alters your stats, which would be senseless, so they let it pass even though it's definitely a glitch

[@leraffl1271]

Exantius E I tweeted shenanagans explicitly about the badge boost reappliance (a well respected runner). Question: "just a random pokemon question: Is reappliance of the badge boosts considered a glitch? Is it allowed in glichless runs since it may be impossible to avoid it? Or is it considered an oversight or exploit similar to the pokedoll "glitch"?" Answer: 100% oversight and allowed. If it weren’t the following would be banned: using any x item, being hit by any status move that changes stats (string shot, growl, ect), using a boosting move (agility, swords dance, ect), and a few more things as well lol

[@VideoGameVillians]

@@leraffl1271 As far as I'm concerned a glitch and an oversight are the same thing if the result is something completely unintended happening, especially if it seriously alters the way a person can play the game as a result As for how speedrunners count it... I don't care. They can make the rules for speedruns how they want but it doesn't change reality for everybody else. He's not doing a speedrun.

[@nickbrennan8979]

@@VideoGameVillians So you're basically calling his runs invalid because of a programming oversight? Grow up.

[@hunnibuttr]

You provide such quality content my guy, keep it up

[@TheCottonCandie]

Sooo i was watching and i heard you mention 9 rare candies? but i could've sworn there were more in-game, and i was right, there's 13 (but only 12 you can access since the last one is in cerulean cave) I'm not sure which ones you know about? so I'll list them: 1 - Mt. Moon - the obvious one 2 - SS. Anne - rival room, 4th door, but you have to battle a trainer for it 3 - Power Plant - Would take a lot of backtracking for but might be worth your time to pick up if you're willing. It's out in the open 4 - Cerulean City - the hidden one that's so obvious it hurts 5 - Pokemon Tower - maybe not ideal for this run but it's out in the open 6 - Rocket Hideout - yay spin puzzles.... 7 - Silph Co. - obvious 8 - Cycling Road - hidden in the patch of grass 9 - Warden's House - STRENGTH 10 + 11 - Cinnabar Mansion Basement - Out in the open one + hidden one 12 - Victory Road - Rock puzzle room, the obvious one that i know you always get anyway hope this was helpful!

[@kourii]

The Power Plant one at least we know he usually skips. He mentions it in a recent vid. Good question as to which other two he doesn't get. Probably S.S. Anne on most runs and maybe Cycling Road, if I had to guess.

[@TheCottonCandie]

@@kourii Yea back 2 months ago i didn't know he skipped that one, but those are two i'd guess. If not cycling road, then maybe Cinnabar mansion's second one? he tries to do min battles most the time so the S.S. Anne one i can see being skipped, but i cant remember which other one you may have to battle a trainer to get or consider.

[@sphaney19]

regarding the badge boost glitch: as Todd would say "its not a bug, its a feature!"

[@elephystry]

Also the Toxic/Leech Seed combo

[@SwiftNinjask]

I think there are a few common reasons why some people dislike MDB, keep in mind this is mainly an semi-objective analysis not hate: -He constantly interrupted the flow of his videos to insert his twitter plugs. He also frequently mentions to like and comment shamelessly help the KZbin algorithm, which as a half-joke is funny for maybe the first 2-3 times. - He also took the idea of single Pokemon challenges and mass produced them, which can make the content/commentary seem a little forced and superficial. This reason is accentuated if you consider Pikasprey and Jrose original trendsetters of single-Pokemon challenges. - Most of the playthroughs are just cookie cutter copies of his other Pokemon runs, with even his commentary virtually identical (I get Jrose does this too, but he is at least self-aware that the content is similar). These flaws really aren't that bad, definitely not enough to hate MDB, but the internet is ruthless and takes things too far. I haven't watched him lately, but he may have removed these issues. If he hasn't than he will most likely improve as KZbinr as time goes on.

[@snoozbuster]

He did a neat video recently on Pokémon Black it just takes him way longer in more modern games so he can’t do them as often

[@cereal7591]

Even though his style is not my favorite (but I don't hate it either), I must say: fortunately he's not interrupting his videos to plug his Twitter recently. Most frequently, during a grinding montage midway throughout the run, he gives shoutouts to whatever other Channel he was watching while grinding (mostly small channels, but funny enough a few times it's been Jrose), and sometimes he might mention one of his on going Pokémon let's plays, but these don't come out of nowhere like the Youngster Joey gag. About the Fossil-comments-algorithm gag, the viewers have become OBSESSED with it, commenting over it even on Gen 3 or 5 runs in which it's not mentioned. It's like a Meme for Pokémon challenges, now, you can see similar comments on any run on any Channel. Sometimes as a parody of it, but I'd like to think viewers are more aware of how much it helps, so the overflow of "Which fossil did you take? I heard it helps asking" or" I'm only commenting to help with the KZbin algorithm" are not always intended to mock MDB, but to support their respective KZbinr even when they have nothing funny or interesting to say. Maybe thinking about it that way is too naive, but being that way it's literally on my nature. So, in the end, I think he's been learning and improving. He'll never be my favourite challenge creator, since his way of narration, humor and the little specifics of the methods he uses for his runs don't really resonate with me that much, but that's just a matter of preference. He works very hard, is a nice guy and has earned my total respect. And I'd still watch him from time to time.

[@exantiuse497]

I don't hate MDB, I'm sure he's a nice person, but I don't like his videos. The worst thing, for me at least, is the way he constantly sucks up to the "youtube algorithm". KZbin algorithm is the worst thing about KZbin, it forces everyone who wants to strike big on KZbin into the same mold, it constricts creativity by effectively shutting your channel down if your videos are about certain topics (you literally weren't allowed to say "coronavirus" on a video for a month or so, for example), and promotes toxic practices like clickbait and begging for likes and comments. So I get really aggravated when people celebrate the algorithm like that. Sorry bout the rant

[@SwiftNinjask]

@@cereal7591 You make a good point. I watched MDB content as an outsider which makes his quirks seem annoying, whereas someone apart of his community would see them as inside jokes. Also good to hear he is improving his videos. I might even check out his new stuff in the future.

[@ladyriethegoldendelmo5441]

@@SwiftNinjask true but its better than werester getting angry all the time and posting only getting his ass beat lol xd

[@MishKoz]

I honestly don't think I've ever seen Eevee's back sprite in gen 1. I always just evolved it right away.

[@OmegaTyrant]

There really is no point to not evolving Eevee right away in Gen 1, its evolutions all learn their own level up moves unlike other stone evolutions, and all you're getting for it by level up that the Eeveelutions don't get is Bite, and in Yellow, Focus Energy, with the former being crap (plus completely obsoleted by Body Slam) and the latter doesn't work properly in RBY. The only reason to delay evolution is if you're in Yellow and want to use Focus Energy on an Eeveelution for Stadium (where the move actually works as intended).

[@Ars-Nova258]

It’s because of your channel is why I got back into Pokémon. This Summer I played Yellow, Crystal, Omega Ruby, Y, and Sun for the first time. So between your videos and me going through the games I own, you helped make this summer fun. Thank you.

[@4Corry]

Finally someone realizes Bide affects Ghost Pokemon in generation 1.

[@ZenoDLC]

I mean, it's a normal move that is very bad

[@4Corry]

​@@ZenoDLC But it deals type-less damage in generation 1.

[@BulletProofBreast]

He's been saying this since way back. Only "My Dehydrated Facial Hair" fucked it up real bad

[@andriypredmyrskyy7791]

good to mention MDB noticed you can use bide literally the day after he posted his eevee video. posted a sort of apology/explanation the next day.

[@4Corry]

@@andriypredmyrskyy7791 Indeed he did, opps.

[@colestrong2508]

This is literally my favorite series on KZbin right now, keep up the great work 👍

[@RFingaz69]

Man that level 36 Eevee with 100 HP is so satisfying

[@ddthejj]

When you said eevee might get paralysed by body slam, it clicked with me that you might not know this: Pokemon in gen 1 cannot be statuses but moves of the same type as them. Normal types cannot be paralysed by body slam in gen 1. Another super weird quirk of red and blue (and I think gold and silver too)

[@nickbrennan8979]

I never knew that was a thing.

[@user-fd2jd2bp3e]

I believe this was removed in generation 2 because one of Lance's Dragonites paralyzes my Ampharos with thunder wave.

[@SoraDonaldGoofy99]

Thunder Wave still works on opposing Electric types, though. And powder moves still work on grass types, so there are a few exceptions.

[@KillerLightningbolt]

His upload time is getting more and more normal as this series goes on. By part 56 these will be coming out by 3pm.

[@pod_036]

KZbin speedrun (all pokemon challenges) wr by Jrose11

[@infernalchampion5655]

Hell yeah! My favorite quarantine youtube series!

[@willbowden6897]

It's great! I was basically an inactive subscriber since I've kind of drifted away from Pokemon lately, but I have watched every episode of this series. It's great work on Jrose's part

[@OmegaTyrant]

When I tried this I found Substitute to work really well for the Elite 4. Against Loreilei it prevents your Attack from getting dropped by Growls and Aurora Beams, which then allows you to safely mimic Slowbro's Amnesia and get some Badge Boost stacks as well as buff your durability massively against Jynx and Lapras. With Substitute I was able to consistently beat Loreilei pretty much every time once Eevee was in the 50s. It also helped against Agatha as it protected against confusion and the final Gengar's Toxic (though because Gen 1 it unfortunately doesn't protect against Hypnosis), protects against other potentially bad stat drops like getting Leer'd, and gives insurance against crits and will help your durability in general. Unfortunately you can only get the TM for it from the Game Corner for 7700 coins, and when playtime is a concern like in your runs, I do not know if you can get enough money from trainers and items to just buy it without playing slots, especially on top of buying vitamins, so it might not be viable in time-concerned runs. But for runs that just focus on finishing at as low a level as possible like mine, it makes a huge difference. I also kept Sand Attack up to Agatha; yeah needing some luck sucks, but she is going to be a luck-based fight no matter what you do with Eevee, so one Sand Attack against the Ghosts can help you avoid getting put to sleep and might save you some Substitutes if you get a Night Shade miss (at my level I didn't have enough HP for a Sub to take a Night Shade, and the Gengars were 3HKOs with Night Shade, so the extra bit of luck stacking helped). After Agatha I replaced it with Reflect for Lance/Blue and never bothered with Double Edge, as the extra bit of power over Body Slam with recoil wasn't worth giving up the other utility moves (especially when you need health to make Substitutes). Overall with perfect DVs and grinding out Stat EXP, I was able to win with solo Eevee entering the Elite 4 at level 61 and finishing at 65 on Blue's final pokemon (I also gave him the Venusaur team, as when you're neutral against all the starters the Venusaur + Gyarados is much better than Blastoise + Exeggcute/Exeggutor).

[@Daidalus2]

The 17 sec dude has already given up. It is 37mins since the upload and there is no dislike displayed.

[@anubeia]

adaptability + choice band eevee is the most satisfying thing I’ve ever done in Pokémon (Edit : band, not scarf. You can tell I haven’t played in a while.)

[@xaropevic7918]

I OHKOed wishiwashi with adaptaility normalium Z eevee, that may be more satisfying

[@LiskHelio]

I exist

[@banal4975]

@@LiskHelio Congrats

[@appleando752]

That's good in Gen 5 and up. Any other gen, Eevee doesn't get that ability, ability's don't exist, or held items don't exist.

[@Autoboticon]

Hey Jrose, just wanted to say that I thoroughly enjoy both your and MDB content. You are both a joy to watch. Both of your work inspired me to play through shield using only a Magikarp and red using a Charmander. Keep doing what you are doing and I'll keep watching. Thanks man.

[@MahDryBread]

Thanks!

[@m.m.2341]

My God, when you didn't teach it Bite my brain was like THAT'S DARK TYPE and then reverted to... Oh Gen 1!

[@proto594]

When you can't find anything to watch at 4:30 am and then that Jrose11 content hits just right

[@yesec9]

MDB: "Next up is Silph Co and the battle with Rival Fievel. Sub to Jrose. He sends out his Pidgeot." Two stellar channels. Friendly rivalry at its finest!

[@Genra]

When you realise half-way into the video that Jrose wasn't using a modified colour palette since Eevee is as vanilla as it gets-

[@kourii]

It was very satisfying when I realised that

[@TychoKingdom]

Oh!

[@bryanwharton6692]

Hey just a quick reminder: body slam can’t paralyze normal type Pokémon in gen 1. Great video!

[@tonytang7550]

Bide still hits ghost Pokémon in future gens, I learned this the hard way when one of my Ghost Pokémon died to a bide in a randomized Nuzlocke

[@kourii]

Bide can't hit Ghost Pokémon in Gen II and III, then it can hit them again for who knows why in Gen IV, and then can't hit them Gen V-VII. I assume your randomised Nuzlocke was Gen IV.

[@tonytang7550]

@@kourii Yes it was in Diamond

[@chrisbandicoot9552]

Nice I'm early for once. Been loving this series so far, I'll be sad when it's over.

[@solonsaturngaming3727]

Alpha Shadow your Popo when Mr.Popo sad? Thought he had no sadness from DBZA

[@LiskHelio]

Don't worry there's gonna be 40 more

[@edwardcollins8102]

@@LiskHelio And probably a LOT more. He's planning on Gen 2, and I would not be at all surprised if he went all the way to gen 10 (or 11- or further)

[@theSato]

It only took 8 videos of me asking for this, but you did it! Thank you, I got so excited when I saw it was uploaded. RIP no cool name for the Eevee though! By the way.. why is the color palette actually correct? It's not a cool unique palette like the others, to match the Pokemon! is it because Eevee can be anything, thus all colors are valid? And yes, pretty good segue.

[@skeletonwarrior29]

Also wondering about the color palette.

[@imfamoushero]

Sato maybe because eevee is the counterpart to pikachu in yellow (and Let’s Go) so it’s a similar color palette

[@MrKaseiyo]

Hey Jrose, how you doing man? Hope everything is ok :) I just wanted to thank you for all this videos you’re posting, i get that you might enjoy all of this but, again, thanks for your effort. You’re helping a lot of people entertaining them during this quarantine. You’re amazing!

[@pigszzthegamingpig9906]

Just gonna say that I love the thumbnails for all these videos

[@iDave720]

My body is ready for more challenges.

[@kevindubbya7501]

Jrose much appreciated for the content. Good stuff man, can't wait for season 2!

[@TheJohn275]

I have rewatched every one of these videos 3 times today just waiting for this one

[@josephknuth5669]

I look forward to seeing these so much, you’re definitely my favorite KZbinr out there now. You’re just a nice guy with a pleasant vibe making stellar content my dude. Please keep it up!

[@courtneygreen3168]

"Well, Eevee doesnt have hands to use mega punch" 😂

[@ckillgore]

Is that why mega kick is in the Gen 3 remakes?

[@tonytang7550]

@@ckillgore Mega Kick was a TM in gen 1 too

[@MishKoz]

30:00 there's a weird mechanic (or glitch) in gen 1 where Pokemon can't get added effects from a move of the same type as itself. So for example, Tauros can't be paralyzed by Double Edge (normal move vs a normal type pokemon). Raichu also can't be paralyzed by thunderbolt (electric attack vs an electric pokemon), but it _can_ be paralyzed by thunder wave or body slam.

[@MishKoz]

@ yeah I should have been more specific. But regardless I hope Jrose sees this since he does use Body Slam a lot and there are quite a few normal types to fight.

[@jeffgiles4693]

I've been binging a bunch of your videos and glad to see you're still making more recent ones!

[@FriendofFantasy]

Thank you for your comment on MDB. I like both of you. You both put out great and entertaining content. Thank you for addressing the hate. I honestly don't know why people feel the need to put other people down.

[@MahDryBread]

Thanks!

[@AmbassadorBreadloaf]

MDB: Okay gen 1 Eevee solo run is impossible- JRose: Hold my beer.

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

Tbf mdb did check that afterwards

[@Skyfox94]

15:50 Wholesome 3000 - you both seem like really nice dudes.

[@MahDryBread]

Thanks!

[@Skyfox94]

@@MahDryBread Congrats to 300k Subs btw

[@SamJohn95]

I'm so glad I found your channel! After having binge watched all of MDB's Pokémon challenges, I'm happy to find another really high quality Pokémon Challenge KZbinr to watch!

[@BeaconCat]

Just wanted to say these videos are really enjoyable and well-made, I look forward to every one of these!

[@wibblemu9]

I love both you and MDB, you're both entertaining in your own ways and that's fine. I actually found his channel from the recommended videos on one of your videos.

[@MahDryBread]

That's great, thanks for watching!

[@wibblemu9]

@@MahDryBread Ayyye keep up the good work my dude, love how passionate you are about what you do

[@harperxo9]

"While were watching Eevee tackle this Geodude." 😂 what the hell

[@charlesat107]

Can't believe it's already run number 10, this series has been my new favourite thing to watch. It's been enjoyable and entertaining throughout! I'm glad you are back to consistent uploads.

[@ShabbaDabb]

This was one of the first videos I saw of yours, and became fairly regular ever since. Great rewatch!

[@sunnyhvar1992]

13:56 "it works properly" is not something I expected to hear about gen 1 tbh

[@realperson69]

Nope, Reflect doesn’t work properly. Your Reflect halves your OPPONENT’S confusion damage. Good old gen I. 👍

[@grima5788]

"Gary defeated Ash?!" Perfection.

[@AndrooTheNerd]

I love that you and MDB have come out with these Eevee challenge videos as I’m working on my own. I can thankfully watch yours since mine is on Silver Version. I love watching these Gen 1 runs of yours!

[@caelalbridge3347]

I watch you, Johnstone, and mahdrybread all the time and you each have your own unique flare. I’ve been playing Pokémon since I was 4 and over the past few years of watching the 3 of you, I’ve learned more about the game than I could have in the preceding years combined. Thank you for doing your part in making this community better.

[@MahDryBread]

Johnstone and Jrose have always been wonderful behind the scenes to me, great guys!

[@charliemayberg7647]

i love this series. now to wait for oddish

[@leemeyer9395]

The destroyers of poliwag

[@DotArve]

Inspired by this series, I've done an Oddish solo run, it's not really too challenging.

[@wildfluffyappeared]

Oh heck yeah, this just got released shortly before I got off work, nice thing to come home to :)

[@WantedDeaDorAIive]

just wanted to say that i really appreciate you taking the time in making those videos. They are always a highlight of my day, and i always look forward to the next one. Its hard to find content that is of good qualitiy and actually entertaining. For now, much appreciation from my end - and keep going.

[@FernandoRafaelNogueiraReis]

It's the little things... You sound so hyped in the end, I loved it!

[@airtempest8945]

I'm still not used to JRose having an upload schedule of less than 1 video a year. It's a very weird feeling tbh. Weird, but good feeling.

[@willbowden6897]

Sweet, I was looking for something to watch

[@roboldenburg5423]

It”s nice what you said about MDB. I watch both of your channels and I like them both!

[@stevensmith6705]

Awesome awesome awesome. I look forward to every vid you put out bro. Keep up the good work.

[@Eroil]

I guess you chose Blastoise for the rival since it has great defence, every time though it looks like such an inconsistent Pokemon with the 2 bad moves it has for the final battle lol. Makes me wonder if it would've been harder with Venusaur, but well we usually see only the successful attempts so that makes it looks worse than it is maybe

[@cobaltlee1769]

"I thought reflect would halve confusion damage cuz gen 1" This guy is like 3,000 IQ, it should have worked

[@jakebroome6120]

That bit about MDB was unexpected, and as a fan of both channels, definitely welcomed! You guys both have your own styles, and that's what makes your runs interesting and fun to watch. Love to see my favorite channels supporting each other. You guys are the best.

[@MahDryBread]

It was really cool of him!

[@celesteintheend]

personally, i love both you and MBD's content! it's always exciting to see pokemon challenges and i love that both of you are so consistent in uploading challenges. it means i always have something to watch.

[@cameroncookl7942]

Technically eevee is a starter in gen 1 for your rival in yellow

[@dannysmi7162]

That, and in let’s go eevee.

[@elephystry]

bwburkeGaming Nor are FireRed/LeafGreen, but they are all Kanto games.

[@jufriol8733]

Who tf insulting mah dry bread?? He’s cool af like Jrose

[@MahDryBread]

Believe it or not, a lot of people People can be pretty quick to make up their opinion on a person based on a couple videos

[@kingjames1459]

Awesome work, keep them up! I love watching these.

[@PuppetsByPalmieri]

I’m a big fan of you and MDB. Watch both your shows pretty much as soon as they’re up and rewatch multiple times. Thank you both for the entertainment and the positivity!

[@MahDryBread]

Thanks!

[@NinjaTriggerX]

I want to see a Missingno run next! Can you even cheat one in at the start of the game?

[@dynamitedemon9972]

Poketips made a red and blue missingno run

[@bongosmcdongos4190]

@Caspar Smith well, can't you just cheat them into your dex then?

[@flaming007]

26:12 keep going for double edge until the onix goes away way to protect us from the harsh realities of pokemon

[@connorrogerson7675]

I really love these videos! And you get them uit so quickly! Well done and great job Jrose!!

[@Xeoffee]

I love this channel so much. Such good vibes.