Is Jon Jones the GOAT?

Is Jon Jones The GOAT?
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[@ironman-gq3qn]

I bet if Jones did that to Francis, critics would be saying "he hasn't fought Gane!"

[@Abnormus83]

Absolutely. Before the Jones fight, I had no idea how terrible his ground game is. I would never have predicted that level of helplessness from Gane!

[@Cainb23]

for sure dude. you should have seen what people were saying to me before the fight. i was talking to a group of gane groupies and one straight faced called me a DUMBASS in all caps for picking jon jones, the greatest ever, to beat gane. smh.

[@samuelhong4272]

@@Cainb23 you know jones won’t fuck you for riding him like this right.

[@stacks3892]

Exactly, gane is better than francis honestly lol francis has that knockout power but against other heavyfooted planted heavyweights that like to brawl lol You saw how francis did on the feet against ciryl he couldn't find a home for those big overswings doesn't work against faster lighter on the feet heavyweights, jones would've dominated francis as well why are we pretending francis is better than ciryl lol

[@jre4255]

True. But watching this i think we can all agree what he would have done to francis.

[@Absolute_Goober]

the "WHAT THE FUCK" look on cyrils face when jon let go of him was priceless

[@Yessir-mt6lv]

He pretty much did what gsp did but heavier weight class and more dominant

[@stephencox8723]

Yea, great parallel. About the same time away from the sport coming off of a controversial decision moving up in weight. Well done.

[@SSC604]

Yeah except GSP didn't do PED and actually beat the real champ. Even if Jones beats Stipe he still won't be on GSP's level.

[@swerve-experience]

@@SSC604 well GSP did beat Michael Bisping. Who became champ off of a shock KO. Sooooo yea. Plus, the amount of PEDs that Jones got caught with is actually now legal

[@SSC604]

@@swerve-experience If I go 65 in a 35 and I get a ticket, then couple years later they change the limit to 65. My ticket doesn't get overturned. History is history. Also those substances don't just appear in your system for an extended period of time.

[@pcpc5678]

​@@SSC604we know ur crying bro😭😭

[@laertesdd]

"I'm an expert for a reason." Kiiyon 'Humble' Kimura 2023

[@fakete37s13]

Since jon has finally had his first HW fight, imagine how much better his striking and wrestling is gonna be versus stipe, this fight was just a warm up. The most exciting return for sure

[@Troupe_Master]

how was it a warm up he didnt do anything XD he slipped a jab took Cyrils back and that was it it was not a war

[@edwincastillo8280]

​@@Troupe_Master you must not understand what a "warm up" is!🤣🤣🤣

[@frosty1865]

stipe is now 40 and out of his prime

[@javierfromthegggnetwork9657]

@@Troupe_Master that’s basically a warm up buddy…

[@justinfletcher7630]

Stipe Isn't as good at his kick strikes but he has better boxing tha gane and obv his wrestling I think stipe pushes jones

[@thewarlord502]

Gane was like: "Isn't he awesome"😂

[@morgangreen2601]

Stipe's legacy could still be improved if he defeats Jones, and he says that his camp's training is has already been in motion before UFC 285. Additionally, the camp is going to have an advantage of being second to fight Jones at heavyweight. Stipe might have the dog in him to go get it done! I am expecting a close fight.

[@JOHN-zl5kw]

Stipe is dam near 40. You mean Sergei

[@Renulph]

I also think Stipe is a bit too old now, this fight should have happened 3 years ago.

[@mmakings2773]

​@@JOHN-zl5kw heavyweights can do it till 42,43 if taken less damage

[@7reasons617]

Sergei is overrated and Stipe would’ve never beat Jon at any point in his career post Rua. He’s bout going to beat him now.

[@Cainb23]

i do think stipe can still compete with the best but man, jones is above the best in a tier of his own.

[@acanthafiore]

Can't believe the golf clap criticism ended up being validated. Truly an expert body language analyst 😂

[@doingstuffinpublic]

😅 elaborate I’m lost

[@acanthafiore]

@@doingstuffinpublic Watch his previous video

[@fromheaventoearth5779]

oh shit you're right lmao

[@SoulPurposeGaming]

The body shouldn't contain any Turinabol at all. This just means that it wasn't improving his performance the day of the fight, but he did receive the benefits during training. This isn't like HGH or test that is actually inside of the human body. He clearly cheated at some point.

[@nicholascoob1350]

What's weird to me is that no one seems to even know that the picogate wasn't for Cormier, it was the for the Gus rematch. He did pop "cleanly" for the DC frematch hence the NC, so it shouldn't be overturned. Even then he was acquitted back then anyway, so the fact that they changed the rules just so he wouldn't fuck up again is kinda pathetic. Jon never even needed PEDs, he just wanted the easy way out.

[@wrofiir9697]

@@nicholascoob1350 He would be a very different fighter without PED's, just look at Vitor Belfort. You get to see his decline from PEDS to clean and the transition was nasty. Sure, maybe worse to do it and then stop, but without the PEDS we would definitely have a lower strength JJ

[@madgavin7568]

The suspiciously low testosterone levels after he beat DC back in 2015 (he tested for Cocaine on that same test which grabbed headlines in the media), especially for a world-class athlete like Jones is a clear indicator that he was on steroids. Derek from More Plates More Dates made a good video about it awhile ago.

[@The_Libationist]

@@nicholascoob1350Saying he never needed PEDs is complete speculation because the fact is he used them and so we are forever denied knowing what a clean jones would be like. Any use of those drugs in a sport where they are banned will always cast a shadow over his legacy because we will never know how much of his greatness was him and how much was the drugs in his veins.

[@joystickjourneyman]

​@@The_Libationist bruh shut up lol. Peds if I'm dc or gus or izzy or anyone and I think I'm the baddest dude in the world then i don't give a fuck about peds.

[@mmakings2773]

Don't forget " Jon Jones is the dirtiest fighter of all time " -- Rampage

[@Blessom]

You know after that finish it's pretty much undisputed I have been watching for 10+ years now nothing but greatness 🔥

[@Kamibandit]

I enjoy your commentary but just as a heads up. Watch your hands when you’re holding the mic lol. The brushing against it is wreaking havoc on my ear drums through my headphones lol.

[@jaylebron777]

There are other fighting organizations... we don't know how truly good he is... In my opinion.. he definitely should be talked about as a mythical figure

[@treywilson4310]

Dude the UFC is the cream of the crop. The best fighters are in this organization

[@jay--666]

The best fighters in general are in the UFC. But there are other fighters in other leagues who are really good. Vadim Nemkov and Vitaly Minakov come to mind. They have never fought someone on Jone's level but they have still proven they are very good and we don't know exactly how good they are because they have not been tested against enough top level fighters.

[@erikl3508]

The Last Emperor 🐐 Look what he did to all those HWs. Imagine him at LHW. And even all the greats admitted Fedor was the best (GSP, BJ, Mike Tyson). But that was the 2000s and if Covid showed us anything, it’s that people have the memories of goldfish.

[@Makai77]

Definitely can't forget Fedor. He was as dominant as anyone, ever. Also, I like how you spell your first name. And the beach for your image is cool... being from Hawaii myself.

[@jay--666]

Fedor is the greatest of all time IMO. I wouldn't argue if someone said Jones was the GOAT tho. I just think I need to see Jones fight a few more heavyweights before I can call him the GOAT. I always thought Gane was a bit overrated. A great striker but not an elite grappler and he was totally outclassed against Jones on the ground. But I do think Jones could beat any heavyweight in the UFC. And if he defends the title against another high level opponent I think it makes is case even stronger. But no one has ever been unbeatable at heavyweight. It's the hardest division historically to stay at the top of.

[@gibgibbo5738]

The delusion is real jon would have smashed fedor any day of the week😂😂

[@thenedsmmachannel8970]

Idk if Fedor would be as successful at LHW. The reason of his success was cause he had the speed and technique of a LHW. That is negated when he fights other LHWs. I do think he would win but not to the degree you think

[@stingjunior6]

@@gibgibbo5738 😂definitely not smashed. Don’t be a victim of recency bias. Don’t forget who Fedor was in that 2000s run

[@deebonash4487]

He's cemented to being the greatest MMA fighter of all time 🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿🤙🏿

[@Renulph]

It should've been Ngannou. Ciryl is great, but has huge holes in his game, easy target for Jon, especially with Henry in his corner helping him with his wrestling. Is he the best, or is the HW division relatively weak right now? Derrick Lewis got as far as he did with the most basic toolkit you can imagine. LHW was much harder for Jon to compete in because the guys down there had more complete styles.

[@Cainb23]

he's the best... dont forget gane almost beat francis. i see what youre saying though.

[@hunterhunter5998]

It's both. He's the GOAT and the HW division is less well-rounded. The intrigue of Jon moving up was to see whether Jon could put on the necessary size, whether the heavyweights were too big to take down and whether Jon could get knocked out

[@ThePillowNation]

ngannou also has holes in his game, he has no submission threat or even ground and pound when he does get top mount, on the feet he got completely outclassed by gane and couldn’t land anything worthwhile, jones would outpoint ngannou on the feet and if the fight went to the ground i would 100% favour jones

[@hunterhunter5998]

@@ThePillowNation not to mention Gane took down Francis in round 5 and we saw his wrestling level yesterday. Francis stuffed one bad takedown from Stipe and people overrate his takedown defense

[@ThePillowNation]

@@hunterhunter5998 seriously.. when it comes to fight iq on the standup gane is one of the best in the heavyweight, but when it comes to grappling he has almost negative fight iq, and even he was able to take ngannou down and rack up some control time in that fight albeit mostly in the clinch.

[@Deeplycloseted435]

Jon just completely big brothered him.

[@wheelchairmafia9685]

Jones tested positive for clomid and had single digit testosterone numbers

[@hdhdu7634]

Everyone seems to forget this

[@mandlenkosindhlovu8124]

test levels Jones 2 mg in the whole body. sus as f

[@victorguerra5982]

Jon’s strength had Cyril bamboooozeled!

[@ceemor3404]

I feel Jon Jones held out long enough for Francis to pull out,duck Stipe and get the weakest of all the top 3 contenders.As he knew he could beat Gane as he has weak wrestling and zero ground game.

[@ep3578]

Lay off the drugs lmfao

[@BlackwingsProphet]

At this point it's pretty much a myth Jones only win because of hight and reach the average height of most light heavyweights and heavyweights is between 6'2 & 6,4 the last time Jones fought someone that was below 6'2 that wasn't DC was in 2013 if all it took to be the best was height and reach Will Chope & Stefan Struve would be the greatest fighters in history

[@BlackwingsProphet]

@@resttime33 Stefan Struve reach was average for his height since reach is normally proportionate to height 7 ft tall = 84in reach but being taller mean opponents have to reach more to hit them

[@amartyadasgupta193]

Kiiyon's face clearly showcases the feelings of his heart❤

[@dripshameless5605]

You mentioned the drug tests are a big factor in your decision, I'm wondering whether a fighter's personal issues also effect your ranking

[@exuuuuuuu]

Jones could retire right now and be considered the GOAT for the rest of his life, no questions asked.

[@Rundvelt]

Only by people who ignored his cheating.

[@exuuuuuuu]

@@Rundvelt Whatever they found in him back then is no longer considered cheating by today's standards. Even his no contest against DC is now a legit win.

[@Trekzity]

@@Rundvelt ‘Everyone’s on steroids’ - Nate Diaz

[@Rundvelt]

@@exuuuuuuu He's cheated in the past, he's probably cheating now. The fact that people overlook it is a testament to how simple some people are.

[@Rundvelt]

@@Trekzity Yep, cause everyone knows Nate Diaz is a rogue scholar.

[@shahrukhhasib5047]

With everything being said, I am still a bit worried about his speed. He was moving a bit slower than usual. I understand it's a different weight class altogether, but Jon is also known for his agility. I'd much rather have him weighing in around 230lbs in his next bout against Miocic.

[@s.j.bvlogs3847]

Gane has only been in the ufc for like three or four years he has so much to improve it should’ve been stipe Jon Jones needs to fight a veteran at heavy weight not someone who was rushed into a title fight against Francis on the back story of former teammates

[@TheHappy_Tree]

It’s been awhile since he finshed a fight with a finish. Good on him

[@Neroxonus]

You called it in your body language prediction

[@Blessom]

If we are being honest it's nothing jon can do to prove himself at this point he has done it all and more 🐐

[@rachelmcfann2470]

heavyweight wrestling is just trash

[@greyareaoperator]

Yo is that a Sienfeld background? Haha

[@dattrax7]

I never noticed the similar layout until you mentioned it. 🤣

[@thirdstrike4u]

Yep lol

[@flyingdutchmen1163]

hey Kiiyon, how would you see if Jones vs Ngganou happen?

[@sjcobra84]

If aliens attack, we will send out the Super Smash Jones Brothers as champions of Earth.

[@genaroayala8100]

After all the shit Jones have to deal with. He still manage to win. That indeed is the characteristic of the greatest. The most incredible thing is that his legend is in "to be continued..." I cant wait and I hope he brings a new Jones era in the heavy weight division. Super stoke he is back.

[@ronaldwilliams9635]

Jon is the Goat, the heavy champion means baddest man on the planet. He's that now💯🔥🐐

[@enriquebroncales]

Kiiyon u always have the same cereals :p

[@marshall4439]

Jones may be the most successful mma fighter of all time, but Rampage said it best "Jones is a dirty fighter." Rampage went on to point out that in every Jones fight, he's got his fingers splayed out pointed at your face and if you ever get any momentum, you're getting eye poked. Also, he's throwing kicks to the knees, trying to hyper-extend them, which should be illegal since that injury can just end careers. Much more egregious than the 12-6 elbow or a fence grab. I watched back through a lot of his fights getting hyped for this match and I noticed Rampage was completely on point - Jones must have the highest eye-poke percentage of any fighter.

[@flashinthepan3273]

You know Rampage ain't lyin! 💯

[@KR811]

There have been more injuries to leg checks rather than oblique kicks. Jones isn’t the only one to use them but is the only to get criticized.

[@wrofiir9697]

100% true, but had little bearing on this fight. He's a dirty fighter who's also really fucking good.

[@marshall4439]

also, I will say that no one who strikes his fiancee and hits-and-runs a pregnant woman, while also being stripped of titles for doping three times can ever be the GOAT, IMO. You're not the greatest anything when that shit is what you do.

[@KR811]

@@marshall4439 All of that has nothing to do with fighting in the ring🤡 Also MMA fans defend deplorable behavior from other fighters and figure heads like Andrew Tate and Donald Trump. Your virtue signaling doesn’t amount to anything if you still watch UFC period

[@Jayrezah]

The heavyweights are usually the older guys in their mid 30s to early 40s Jon Jones first right in there but at that weight class everybody has a punchers chance they're the hardest hitters it could be lights out in an instant.

[@PresidentEvil]

Jon is so far above and beyond everyone else, no one comes close to him

[@Mubi_Gaming95]

I said before Jones vs ngannu fight that stipe is hardest matchup for Jones than anybody else

[@congouskos8281]

Drug test definition change and goalpost change and now he is clean! Dumbest argument ever

[@flashinthepan3273]

Didn't take an "expert" to make a 50/50 guess. So settle down there Nostrodom...

[@Milfhunter040]

Jones could break Stipes Heavyweight record too lmao

[@Cainb23]

oh yea i forgot about tom i thought he was gonna be the future, but with jones looking like this he can not stand with him this gonna set him back a couple years but tom will get there. also i dont think francis would have beat jones but if gane would have won this fight you gotta agree with that tweet right? i would have.

[@xdcoleus3097]

You rock man!

[@uglyhippos]

In embedded Jon Jones mention you don't see Ciryl Gane practicing against big people to grapple with or bring any wrestling or bjj specialist to help him out while jon jones brought some huge heavy weights to help him train with.

[@sulbul64]

Gane is always training with middleweights. And not even good ones, one of his main training partners lost to Strickland who took the fight short notice

[@grantmck9659]

I love your content my dude. But even typing that title must of been difficult. I was worried that the last couple of times we seen Jones he fought to the level of competition. If he shows up with that killer instinct. No one can touch him.

[@itsyourboy7150]

I’m not a big jon Jones fan but I respect his in cage abilities. Jon Jones is undoubtedly the GOAT

[@henryz4312]

That francis v jones fight gotta happen !

[@Lord_Vadr]

Ngannou would have similar chances to what Gane did. Wrestling is and has been, and will be, King in the UFC for quite some time. As it represents the greatest disparity of skill from fighter to fighter.

[@LeoneWorlds]

Ngannou is much bigger than Gane. And the hardest hitter at Heavyweight. Completely different fight than the Gane fight who couldn’t even KO Tai Tuivasa in an all out war.

[@LeoneWorlds]

On some real shit, We were robbed of a great fight in Jones vs Ngannou.

[@Makai77]

Gane obviously had no idea just how good Jones would be. Cyril, imo, really underestimated Jon. Bones made it look so easy that Stipe will likely be a huge underdog. In fact (I paused this comment to look it up) DraftKings currently has Jones as a -325 favorite. It'll only increase as the $ comes in on Jon to win.

[@LexBundy]

gsp looked terrible in his middleweight fight with Bisping though.. before gsp got the win, he looked as though he was getting tired and the momentum was shifting

[@iAMJaws]

I wish Jon could've fought Francis and I hope he fights stipe and just goes on a tear at HW.

[@GigaFloyd]

God, I wish khabib would go up and fight JBJ.

[@ManiacMageetheG]

Shout out to you, brother. You DID call it! A lot of channels I really respect picked against him, but I agreed with your assessment of the match. I hope you get your respect after this. You have an amazing channel with great content and your call on the Jones fight shows you know what you are talking about. Please, do more body language videos!

[@Montro95]

I agree Gane seem to 👀 good for 45sec until Jon put hands ✋️ around him made him have a panic attack 😳.

[@ajdoman317]

My question is has he ever fought someone he didn't have a height and reach advantage against? Everyone he fought was much smaller and older apart from Gane and his last fights at LHW where he struggled the most.

[@hunterhunter5998]

You answered your own question. Gane has very similar height and reach to Jones so there was basically no reach advantage. This was a big reason why some people picked Gane to win

[@abdinoorful]

the last time jon jones fought someone under 6'2 was cormier in 2013 i think, so the idea we won primarly because of height and reach is a myth, plus if that is all that matter, their have been plenty of giants in the ufc and lightheavyweight division, why arent they champions?

[@BoyDanny93]

No, no, Jones knew how to use his height and reach properly, to it's advantage. A lot of guys who were bigger, taller, and had longer reach than their opponents didn't know how to.

[@yogyalama1348]

The bigger question is , is that background real??

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

You mic is too good Kiiyon! You cannot do that handling it cuz you keep making big low-frequency sounds and it's really bothersome. If you wanna keep holding it : don't touch the micropone part at least, only the holding base to ensure a better sound. Otherwise great video, it's not stale with this kind of presentation, feels like the host of a sports center.

[@elliottstevens7168]

Stfu and enjoy the video

[@WithScienceAsMySheperd]

@@elliottstevens7168 NOPE, Kiiyon deserves to get constructive criticism to attain the quality he himself hopes to reach. It's the care for his channel that made me say it. I would have shut up if I didn't care bout him. But he's my man. Be safe bro!

[@bridgelaurie9490]

Everyone forgets Tai almost stopped Gane lol if Tai had any cardio he wins in the second

[@nicholascoob1350]

Not really, he was getting his body annihilated. I'm assuming you don't train because then you'd know how much a body shot sucks, and it only needs to be a punch to cause serious damage. Tai was eating kicks from a MT specialist.

[@anxiousx]

It's rare we see undisputed goat on any sports. Brady, Tiger Woods are few names i can think of and Jon Jones is one of them

[@stingjunior6]

Definitely not undisputed but it’s a conversation between him and Fedor I don’t think gsp is involved

[@spiderjump]

What a pity Francis Ngannou is out of the ufc . Jon vs Francis would be interesting.

[@Wise101]

Hey so I was thinking about putting ufc 285 main event into context…Jones submitted a still green HW Kickboxer whom he had a 3.5 inch reach advantage over who’s only been training MMA for 5 years. Seems like everyone is getting carried away with his easy win…I wonder if the general publicis overly impressed just because of Gane’s physique.

[@philbuttler3427]

Ngannou I think is still legitimized in my mind as the champ and Jon is legitimized in my mind as the champ. There can be two like Dana should pay his fighters better if he doesn't want the ambiguity of there being two legitimized champs. Maybe Dana should break out his checkbook, swallow his pride and pay Ngannou a mint so we can get a legit champ versus champ fight that could be the biggest fight this decade. He's probably not going to, but if he actually cared about making as much money as possible instead of screwing his fighters he'd do it.

[@jordankuttler1859]

If a horrible human being like Jon Jones is really considered by almost everyone to be the GOAT of MMA then it's really sad for the world of MMA... Martial arts goes far beyond how you can beat another human being in an octagon that's why for me (and not just me I hope...) the GOAT is GSP and it won't change any time soon.

[@hugolippold]

Aspinall vs Jones would be amazing.

[@sonnysad905]

So many technical HWs coming up but so far from JJ

[@dragonfoxsolid1308]

Gsp retired right around usada. Bisping called him out for this and GSP's bubble guy could be a sign of steroids.

[@rotomwash0355]

Jones got served up a third tier heavyweight that not even Fedor the tomato can crusher would bother with. Garbage match. Garbage champion. Can't wait for Stipe to teach Jon "Eye Pokes without penalty" Jones what heavyweights are.

[@insuchaway]

Would rather see Blaydes vs JBJ next..

[@BoyDanny93]

I hated Jones because he beat my favorite guy Rashad. But gotta give credit when it's due. YES ARGUABLY!! because Jones accomplished so much at a young age in such a short time frame in LHW and did it against most of the best ufc Lhw fighters DOMINANTLY. He literally cleared the LHW division. A lot of people will say " its because they were out of their prime". As i said earlier, Jones comfortably beat them, almost with no problem, meaning even if they were in their prime, 8 times out of 10, Jones would've still beat them, but not easily. And because he's the much bigger guy, that gives him a slight edge over A.Silva and GSP. Now if he can beat almost all top contenders in HW, which he started to do, then there's no competition.

[@Schismatic1336]

I'm an expert for a reason, lmmfao!!!

[@mpforeverunlimited]

I think he's tied with GSP. If he can defend his belt than he's got it, but only if you can ignore the steroids

[@ShaDusK]

He was considered the GOAT by the MMA long before his recent fights lol. 15 - 0 in title fights isn't a question being that GSP is #2 at 13-2.

[@giovannigiorgio831]

Right now, there’s nobody in the top 5 that can beat Jones. I think he fights Stipe, beats the greatest heavyweight of all time and retires on top.

[@jasmikko]

I think better to put down the mic like before

[@Bnate8]

Yes he is

[@atf586]

Props for you on having the courage to admit his goat status a lot of comantetors seem to have problems admiting what they saw for bias and pettines its refreshing seing you being so truthfull in an important time

[@Tjbensinnington]

I thought everyone was racist? I'm surprised the crowd was so electric for jones

[@andrewkielbasowycz1915]

The true legendary fight now is JJ vs Prime Fedor hnnnnnnnngggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[@andrewc6520]

Bro, when did you move into Jerry's apartment?

[@samring2657]

You can him Love him or hate him but he made the #1 heavy weight look silly

[@gurulaghima6518]

My favourite fight was Jon Jones Vs a pregnant lady That woman didn't stand a chance

[@isaiahwilliams2332]

Don’t see anyone beating Jones . Unless they can convince Francis to come back. But by the time they are able to put it together Jones might be to old

[@insaneyt736]

Is this fixed.?? Many people saying it🤔🤔

[@JOHN-zl5kw]

Fixed? I don't know... Paid? Yes

[@Ghost-vy8ec]

Did everyone forget about GSP

[@mmakings2773]

Not me bro. I'd love to see GSP come back to make his case for GOAT stronger. I mean i still believe he can beat Leon , Colby, Usman all of them. UFC robbed GSP from the Khabib fight. If that fight had happened and GSP won then GSP's case would be even stronger than Jon's

[@RonMcdon.]

Serra.

[@SSC604]

@@RonMcdon. Reyes, Santos, Gus

[@RonMcdon.]

@@SSC604 all lost

[@chuckmadden18]

Overall Goat. He is looking to be the heavyweight goat. He's the black Tom Brady, but with hands. Tiger Woods but with kicks. Michael Jordan, but with takedowns.

[@vladimirgertner3960]

it's not the picogram thing that's the issue, it's his later hormonal makeup. His test levels were near zero. Women have more natural test than he had at that point in time. There are only 2 possible options to how he got there. 1. He took steroids before that point, so his natural testosterone production stopped working. 2. He cut off his balls. He was juicing without question. Gane tested to see if Jon still had balls.

[@realzhella6817]

GSP is still the goat. No goat can have a tainted record. But a GOAT should be the best representative of a sport. Jones maybe the best fighter but he can't be the goat

[@KR811]

Ls are worse than PEDs

[@realzhella6817]

@@KR811 lmfao..no

[@stingjunior6]

The last emperor is the GOAT

[@KR811]

@@realzhella6817 Yes they are and GSP has the worst Ls as a GOAT. GOATS win, never lose and all fighters are on PEDs. MMA fans lost the right to complain about steroids due they’re blatant hypocrisy towards other PED fighters and obvious signs of other fighters. Clown fans 🤡

[@realzhella6817]

@@KR811 you delusional jon jones fanboys crying delights me😂

[@leekazuya1305]

yes he is

[@Cainb23]

this is the best ive ever seen mma youtubers talk about jones and i feel vindicated and like we finally see eye to eye. he made ciryl gane look like an amateur after 3 years off.. he's the greatest ever by so far. ive been behind jones supporting for so long, listened to noobs tell me how he wasnt on gane's level (LMAOOOO) and now im so excited to see him on the ufc ranking page and imo he should be at least #3 p4p right?

[@bridgelaurie9490]

Nah my boy called it and most of us knew it. Gane pissed down his leg when the bell rang and Jones dominated despite Jones not even looking great. Jones is gonna drop 15-20 lbs, get his striking back on par and it’s over for HW. He will clean it out. Ngonnu will return and he will stop Ngonnu before retiring the GOAT that can never be out dk e

[@kengoguen2292]

Only person who ever beat Jones was himself

[@justinfletcher7630]

Pavlovich over stipe really... why does anyone think for a second jones wasn't going to dominate Francis and gane. Literally stipe and Tom aspinal in my opinion are the two that can do it or maybe blaydes.. jones is the goat but I don't see him taking the HW goat status I believe stipe will keep that until a new dominant HW comes thru

[@JDoug9001]

How can GSP even be considered the goat when he lost to Matt Serra, Matt Hughes, AND arguably Johny Hendricks? Oh and don’t forget Vaseline scandal when he was fought BJ Penn.

[@oumuamua1602]

1. Jon Jones 2. GSP 3. Demetrious Johnson 4. Anderson Silva

[@rennohara376]

Whats going on with kiiyon he once made a video about jones winning on middleweight moving to light heavyweight then he made a video that jones dont deserve support and also said he will never consider jon goat wtf

[@edboi6929]

Bruhh Cryril got NO dog in him smh

[@Coldgunslinger]

I feel like “there’s levels too this” is just so over used now

[@youtuber55629]

I think the OSP fight he got popped for penis enlargement pills.

[@BEATmyguest31]

Sergei & Blaydes are the only ones who stand a chance. A spinal is too inexperienced and coming off the knee- Jones would obliterate that knee. Stipe is 40 & coming off a bad KO. Lewis is toast. Francis really would have been interesting. Definitely better than this!