Is My Fiancé Cheating on Me With His Boss?

Is My Fiancé Cheating on Me With His Boss?
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[@ilovefefi]

I knew he was cheating the first 2 minutes of the call

[@deb9806]

John never asked if she was married or committed. If not they both are single and the only thing holding them back is she is his boss.

[@kalebd9601]

Yep it happened to me

[@laurajomcnaughton853]

​@@deb9806 not bing married doesn't mean he's single. Sorry he's been in a relationship for 5 years he has no right to waste her time or cheat and lie to her. Not everyone these days gets married. Commitment is everything married or not

[@slothisasin8240]

​@@deb9806 Then I suppose she can sleep around and expose him to disease too? Cheating is disgusting for multiple reasons.

[@deb9806]

@@slothisasin8240 I agree, cheating and being selfish and dishonest is never good

[@monstervain]

No matter if it's an emotional affair or a sexual affair, it's still an affair. She should trust her intuition.

[@JKNat9004]

Especially since she's been through this type of thing before.

[@PS-qn4oz]

Even if it's no kind of affair, his behavior is shady. I would dump him for being shady. No affair needed.

[@elijahpiere5324]

@@PS-qn4ozthat’s like a judge saying “even if y’all have no proof of this person doing any wrong, still lock him up & throw away the keys.”

[@PS-qn4oz]

@@elijahpiere5324 Not at all. Telling her to marry someone who is already making her uncomfortable is more like wishing for someone's imprisonment (hers).

[@dianewilliams2789]

If he is cheating with his boss, every woman in that office knows it.

[@macpduff2119]

Bingo

[@anagabriella576]

Yep

[@gessrinky9129]

You know the truth, girl. My ex denied it for YEARS!!! Randomly got a text one night apologizing. You know..

[@ugabuga1361]

Look up fresh and fit.

[@lav7161]

@Uga buga terrible advice. Those dudes are teenagers trapped in older bodies

[@hismom5600]

Nah. Don't follow FreshandFit. Bad advice.

[@kunya16]

@@ugabuga1361 dude what. Those guys are the worst.

[@Totaltwist]

​@@ugabuga1361Why on earth would you point them to those clowns?

[@WWE2kOnline]

Fiancé for 5 years? Red Flag! 🚩

[@joannawrzelikowska3273]

Relationship for 5 years

[@humblehillhorses1844]

I know! If you ain’t ready to marry them tomorrow when you get engaged, you ain’t ready to get married!

[@hardygunsalus9897]

I dated my wife for anout 8 months before we declared it exclusive. Then we dated about 2 years. Then we got engaged. And my wife had some specifics about when and where we got married so out engagement was over a year and a half. So by the time we got married it was close to 4.5 years. Just saying. She doesn’t say why they aren’t married yet. Or at least not in any great detail. Just sayin 🤷‍♂️

[@carsonsmith8607]

Lmao for real 😂. She's delusional

[@4legs4paws55]

BS depends on the age the agreement and the goals of the couple … I wanted to finish my PhD first before marriage I did so and we married after 7 years - so many people in the US marry after only 2 years just to discover that they don’t even know each other. If you marry after 2 years you go from “new relationship energy to pre wedding energy” and then to divorce after 7 years congrats

[@jltcdm369]

Whether he's cheating or not, she knows he's lied to her about specific situations involving the boss. That's enough of a red flag

[@farmermarshall]

I appreciate that John was able to continue the call and admit that he was wrong with his initial belief that it was all in her head. Some KZbinrs latch onto a belief and never turn away from it. Good job John!

[@JKNat9004]

He changed his mind after she told more detailed information. That's the clue for anyone calling in to a show like this.

[@cheesygal]

So I should have continued to listen. My bad.

[@alex1vid]

... yeah that's actually when I disconnected because it almost sounded like it wasn't what she wanted to hear so she doubled down and provided details that perhaps she should have led with if real (because those are serious, more personal and cutting factors). So maybe the guy has some issues there but who knows.

[@soni05131]

Don't marry him, period. Just don't.....no!

[@Dean543-cc3fd]

If it were a man you would be calling him insecure

[@breeeque]

do NOT marry him.

[@ithinkigottalent4047]

I worked with a married guy that I'm still cool with to this day. Thing is, I made it a point to get to know his wife because I know how people can assume things. I like her better than him 🤣🤣 we've hung out together several times and she's the coolest chick!!! I can see why he's so in love with her ❤️

[@zeal4god402]

Great emotionally intelligent response to that situation Nedra

[@a33m3a]

Same. one of my classmates is a guy, and we became really good friends and he's married. Whenever he travels for work, I tell him to send his wife my phone number so I can help her with the kids. And one time I had to let him know of another classmate who made me extremely uncomfortable and I insisted he tells his wife of the conversation we had, out of respect for her and their relationship, because even though I consider him a brother, it is still disrespectful to his wife to talk to her husband behind her back about how another classmate made me uncomfortable by saying sexual things to me.

[@myflippinlife181]

Thank YOU for being that woman! I am leaving a man-boy of too many years that likes to "hang out" with females behind my back without telling me and lying about it. When I was sitting next to his phone one evening a female's name I've never heard of popped up on his caller i.d. when she was calling. Of course it was oh she's just a good friend, she connected with me on FB we were best friends for ages all thru high school and after had some really good times, nothing for you to worry about. etc etc etc...My thing is Oh okay I get it...an old friend nothing to worry about okay then why have I never heard of her or met her(bcz after several min I got him to admit that he had been talking on the phone with her and then found out they had been hanging out) and we've been together almost 6 years. And why is she calling you at 2:30 AM on a Saturday night...bars closing....??? She showed up shortly after. Gasp! if you're only talking on the phone HOW does she know where you live BIG GUY. Needless to say I answered the door and as she tried to scurry off I grabbed her arm and said "oh no no no come on in! He's here. I really am dying to meet you!" She came in and as much of a joke she ended up looking like she did me a huge favor. But ONLY because she got caught off guard. She knew right away there would be no bullshitting me. I'm grateful she was dumb enough to show up but women like you who are truly just friends tend to come forward EARLY on and approach the wife. This is how I handle my guy friends and their significant others and I don't even entertain a friendship with a taken guy that even remotely flirts or comes off as someone who would step out on their person.

[@LOADING...o.o.o]

The thing is your coworker doesn't want to be with you or have sex with you. This caller's bf wants to sleep with his manager. That's the different.

[@oliviah.5846]

Yes, exactly! Don’t have “work spouses”, have “work siblings”- draw a very bold line in the sand🙏🏼 I always joke that I’m the “annoying little/big sister”, just so hopefully no one gets the wrong idea. I had a manager who’s girlfriend would drop in now and then, and I tried to get to know her and make it very obvious that I was supportive of their relationship. If I had to text him, I’d always make a point of mentioning, “Say hey to [GF] for me!” or something like that, just so that it was clear I was only discussing work things and clearly still acknowledged/respected his partner.

[@larryps]

I used to travel all the time for work. I always made time to talk to my wife. No one cares if I stepped away from the breakfast table to take a call from her. A lot of guys do that. Even if it's just for a minute. Something is fishy here.

[@hayleyccurran]

Even if he isn't cheating why would you want to constantly feel second to work?

[@CarnivoreStork]

Why 5 years and not married? Time to leave

[@ArtAbsurdist]

He’s definitely cheating 💯 Dr. John Deloney- why aren’t you hearing her? His boss asked “who are you talking to?” Only girlfriends and wives ask that! Come on…. 🤦🏼‍♀️ To the caller… your man is a liar and cheating on you. I’d put my life on it.

[@confessionsofanavoidant]

as a reformed serial cheater, i recognize a lot of these patterns of cheating 😅😅😅 I mean, consistently not answering the phone and then gaslighting your partner with an excuse... shaving/grooming yourself all-of-a-sudden, but not for intimacy with your partner, OOF, big one...

[@natashabrooks4188]

Yeh something isn't right with this fiance

[@christophercarrigg3775]

Just because you're a cheater doesn't mean this guy is

[@Nah-ah]

Yup. 💯 they start improving themselves for the other person!

[@kaelchipz7252]

@@abnattitudeum… that’s not true lol. i’ve never cheating and would never cheat, but people can cheat and then never cheat again. a reformed cheater just won’t reform for any individual person, it has to be mental growth and realizing the damage that cheating does.

[@bluseptember]

@Unknown Comment huh? Someone could easily just stop cheating if the wanted to.

[@coluccifresh]

This call is heart breaking

[@wonder12374]

Johns example to her as to how he can even be on the road and answer his wife's call even on stage is a true example that a man or woman who truly loves you will answer your call no matter what....there should never be a time when your call should be ignored not for hours.

[@Shanshu72]

I’ve learned this principle from my mother. It’s funny how they say your parents are who you find in your spouse. I get “I love you” texts from her all the time and wondering how I am doing. And if I dont respond within a couple of days, she calls me to “check up on me.” It’s as much an I miss you to her as it is, hey you should learn to not leave me wondering how you’re doing. I’m thankful for those lessons she taught to be open about what I hope for with my spouse.

[@MusicPhrase]

While I agree with your sentiment, that's certainly not a true statement, if taken literally. There's plenty of valid reasons why someone may not be able to access their phone for hours.

[@ryand7713]

No, not for hours, I agree. There are times where it's just terrible timing and either I or her cannot answer. I like to plan talk time when I'm on the road/traveling (Which is rare but it happens). Like 8:30pm or 9pm and then video chat or something. She also knows I/she can almost always text, but I can't voice at that moment.

[@M_K_M_K_M_K]

Oh this woman is not delusional at all. It took me one glance over at my exboyfriend and his new friend to know they fancied each other. 2 years of being insecure about them and then finding out I was right all along. I’m not saying her husband and his colleague have cheated, but the alarm bells are not going off for nothing. She just doesn’t understand them yet. Always listen to your gut.

[@AlphaAchilles]

No one in a serious relationship should be going to the bar.

[@Bringon-dw8dx]

I disagree with this. Going to a bar with your mates is fine. The weird thing here is it’s ‘work’

[@jamiebollenbacher4762]

​@Bringon-dw8dx it's fine if it's work but several people are going, and it's only for a quick happy hour thing. If it goes late, though... that's just a recipe for disaster, even when it's not just two people. Nobody should over-imbibe around people they work with.

[@9liveslisa]

“If you love somebody, let them go, for if they return, they were always yours. If they don't, they never were.” ― Kahlil Gibran This quote is sooooo true. I'd end the engagement. State the reasons you are doing so in a kind way and let go. Keep the drama to a minimum. It hurts like hell, but you will feel so much better. Starting a marriage with so much uncertainty is no way to start a marriage. It will all work out the way it is supposed to. It always does. Have faith in that.

[@terriesmith2616]

100% agreed with you. If she already has to ask this question, then most likely she already knew the answer. "In life, we don't get what we deserve, we get what we're willing to tolerate" -Tony Robbins. If she's willing to tolerate this, then who am I to say anything.

[@zeal4god402]

@@terriesmith2616 Beautiful quote from the magnificent Tony Robbins!

[@cheesygal]

Could not agree more. Shoulda done that in a first relationship. Didn’t really understand yet. The school of hard knocks they say.

[@ugabuga1361]

When guys cheat it’s for sex. When girls cheat it’s for a new man. Don’t leave him. He loves you. All guys want to cheat. All of them. If they say they don’t they are lying. Cheating is for girls. It’s a double standard for a reason. A girl. Fresh and fit podcast

[@9liveslisa]

@@cheesygal SHK is where I learned all my wisdom! I'm just glad I allow myself to continually learn. We are all works in progress.

[@zeal4god402]

-His communication is less frequent and his appearance is more efficient...that should raise an inner alarm and questioned because we communicate less with what is deemed a lesser priority. A quick text during lunch that he is with his friends and that he is anticipating hearing her voice later would be courteous and thoughtful. We usually dress to impress, so who is he trying to impress. We dress better when our confidence is raised, so who or what has increased/challenged his confidence? -When a man can say a simple "I love you" to you around other people, but not around a specific woman, the chances he has erotic feelings for that woman is highly probable. -When someone gets harshly questioned about something, we naturally get extra defensive, but I'm guessing she has asked him about this woman in a decent tone, and an infuriating response from him is a red flag, lack of competent emotional maturity, and the wedding plans need to be canceled if he cannot have sensitive conversations with a peaceful demeanor

[@couchtater4621]

The problem is obvious, and this is typically the case, she has allowed him to disrepect and dishonor her for far too long. It's trite but true, we teach people how to treat us. She should have had 'the conversation' with him much sooner and started making her exit plans, just in case.

[@calebburghardt3391]

I know this isn’t a scientific fact, but I have never seen or heard of anyone who gets defensive about something who is innocent of what they are suspected of (in a relationship setting). He would be apologetic and work to build trust with his partner and set up boundaries. Either that or she is super paranoid and nags him about it all the time, which doesn’t sound like the case.

[@Guts318]

I feel the opposite is true: look for videos of people being accused of crimes when they're innocent. Men, most likely, explode. Those that are guilty act timid and say stuff like, "I'm not the type of person that would do that."

[@zeal4god402]

When there are important issues that need to be discussed, they need to be discussed, but the constant whining about items on the counter and in the refrigerator not being arranged properly...naaaaah

[@lav7161]

@Guts I'm a guy and if I ever get accused of anything I don't explode and instead I get shocked and somewhat act as if I'm guilty. Sometimes I would even walk into a store and feel guilty walking out without buying something because I think the workers probably think I'm stealing.

[@krystalgardiner5591]

I got angry with a partner that was ALWAYS accusing me.. but that came after probably a year of me denying it nicely and changing whatever behaviors he said were suspicious.. I started getting angry when I realized he was using accusations to be controlling and when I realized he was always accusing me bc he was a cheater lol

[@7RB373]

If you're afraid to lose someone, you will always go the route of comforting them when they're worried, etc, and reassuring them, you would never fight back at them. Also, you might even consider getting a new job.

[@straight.no.chaser1708]

My first question would have been what was his reaction when you raised your concerns with him? Anger he’s up to something. If your partner isn’t trying to understand your partner pain somethings up.

[@bettysmith4527]

This is why I gave up on dating, seems like more and more men are less and less interested in having a committed relationship!

[@zeal4god402]

Don't quit! There are many men out there thinking the same thing about women!

[@lav7161]

Give it a shot Betty. You just have to be upfront once you meet someone and let them know you don't want a fling

[@dpborn2721]

@bettysmith4527 same here. I gave up a long time ago. All I ever hear is lying, cheating, and overall unhappiness and I don’t need that. I’m happy and content with where I am in life and like being able to sleep at night knowing that the guy I love and trust is not disrespecting me behind my back with another woman. I have my sh*t together and do whatever I want whenever I want.

[@kristinej.4182]

This is heartbreaking! I feel for this lady. Even if she had been with him for five months it would still hurt but five years?? And engaged too? Wow, that’s so hard to overcome.

[@216trixie]

Why the hell are they at the bar until 10:30 at night on work nights alone on trips?!

[@animaluva098]

my FIRST thought

[@SherryEllesson]

She needs to trust her gut. If it seems like he's reluctant to have the boss lady or anyone else know he's on a call wih her, he's being sneaky. The sudden interest in leveling up his grooming, etc is an age-old sign. Girl, get the hell out.

[@exceptionellaemma800]

I would report them to HR.

[@pa2359]

I gone through this and he get mad.i left because confirmed he was cheating. I left 26 years of marriage.

[@holygoalie311]

Glad he finally snapped her senses. The mistress in this case is super narcissistic. Letting herself be heard in the background asking oh who's that. She's just waving her flag.

[@deb9806]

It can be an emotional affair but still dangerous. She might like him too much and feels awkward with her. She also is his boss so afraid to let it be known.

[@Lauren-i8i]

The hotels and long drives alone PLUS alcohol = NOTHING but trouble.

[@silvermaple3580]

He shouldn’t pick up the call while eating with others but he COULD call her to say good morning before he heads down. Guessing he doesn’t. Red flags.

[@nitareed4088]

Wait...what about when he lies and says he's not cheating on her? My ex-husband STILL denies it...even though I caught him at her apartment...even though they live together (for the past 5 years).

[@dancingmama3134]

Disagree with what John said about not expecting comminication when traveling for work. He doesn't have to call pr talk at dinner or whatever but he needs to make it a point to communicate with her and call her every day that he is gone. That is not unreasonable. My husband travels for work and we always talk every day. If she is not a priority for him, if he is not interested in talking to her and hearing about her day and talking to the person that should be his favorite person on the planet, then she should end it.

[@howmoon67]

I hear about this type of situation in this show often enough. How about just putting up boundaries, put your stuff in check.. I know there are more than 1 person who is a good fit for us, but darn it, leave one and then explore the other options..

[@J-luna]

Dude is cheating on her.

[@champagne4bfast]

When you’re on a work trip your job doesn’t own you for 24 hour days. Breakfast is a necessity so if they choose to have breakfast together, it’s still the appropriate time to take a call from home.

[@hillarybillary21]

Well how did I know that she would say they’ve been together 5 years and not just 2….hmmmm….

[@H.A.L96]

Why did john said it’s her problem not his… red flag the guy is being sneaky and not communicating with his wife while traveling for “work” apparently. The other lady should mind her own business too.

[@shayesmithcustomlyricvideos]

As a woman, you just know. It’s not hard to tell when a guy has turned his attention elsewhere.

[@xhaltsalute]

But why can’t he call before leaving for breakfast?

[@zeal4god402]

Simple phone call!

[@Lauren-i8i]

AMEN

[@colbymann]

This is why I am single.

[@davidmilhouscarter8198]

He’s cheating. If he’s not, then he will be soon.

[@bellabrown4787]

There is something to be said about a woman's intuition! I wholeheartedly believe this lady is right on point. I think her partner is absolutely cheating on her with that woman from work. especially if it's how they got together to begin with, which is why she has this on settling feeling that something is wrong because it is! They say how we get with someone in a relationship is how we will lose them, so maybe this guy has a thing for sneaking around, and maybe it's time for you to sit down and have a real discussion with him about all of your concerns regarding this situation for your own sanity 🙏🏾... Believe in your gut cause it never lies! You deserve better Hun👌🏾!

[@bah-bah29hinks7]

Sorry. Not sorry. “He switched positions.” 🤡🤣😭😂

[@jesseart614]

🙄 this doesn’t mean he’s cheating. It’s highly unlikely he’s not. But this isn’t enough info or proof.

[@anyagee9467]

At the very least he is very disrespectful to you, and that´s a big red flag

[@benwhitnell]

It sounds to me like the dude is finally getting his stuff together and get serious about work and the idea of him not being under her on the chain is going to upset the apple cart in the power dynamic.

[@AmethystSnow]

I NEVER liked that work wife/husband bullcrap. You're giving a really intimate title to a stranger just because you work together? Get out of here with that, man.

[@jillhargrave-george4510]

Best keep business and pleasure separate!

[@jpegjake]

I find it very hard to find time to talk with family on work trips

[@GoKU-xx2vg]

He may not be cheating. His boss may want to be with him and that is why she is standoffish. He may have no intetest other than trying to be nice to her to keep his job. If so this caller should see if he can be moved to another department with the same pay.

[@yvonnemclaughlin4324]

absolutely cheating 😢.

[@yogaqueen1527]

He is cheating. Bottom line.

[@sheilagarrett7540]

You got this one Wrong!

[@jennifergenth4984]

I disagree with John here - this behavior is suspect. DO NOT MARRY THIS GUY!

[@snakeypuffs6154]

Usually, if you think there’s something there, there’s something there. In my experience, anyway. Listen to your gut.

[@NunyaBitness-xq9ed]

Is there any follow up on these conversations?

[@Raina430]

Huh? Her problem?Sounds like he’s cheating. He can call her in the morning.

[@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega]

Never be alone with somebody of the gender you are attracted to....EVER, especially when you're intoxicated. Not answering your spouse's call is disrespectful and shows the other person you dont value your spouse. If she is interested in him, that will make her feel more important to him than his own spouse. This is not cool. Not at all.

[@Verasevos]

They are not married... they are dating for five years...

[@ArmOr_of_the_Alpha_and_Omega]

@@Verasevos no wonder why she's so concerned. You know this is what men do. They won't marry a woman and they'll drag her along until he finds what he's looking for. I would be worried too if I were her. Oh, I see. He is her fiance ... she's gotta lock that down.

[@soni05131]

One of the perks of being single. No bs, no doubts, no wondering, no what ifs...just freedom and peacefulness.

[@DarthBalsamic]

I'm not actually hearing cheating here. Especially since she has no direct evidence and her discomfort about what he's saying and doing is superficial. She simply needs to have an open conversation with the guy about her insecurities rather than just assuming he's cheating, especially if he's not, which would be a direct challenge to his integrity.

[@216trixie]

100% guaranteed he's cheating. All the markers are here.

[@panushjo]

Now that they broke up, Call me Diane!!!

[@ryanbrown3604]

Sounds like she’s fishing.

[@danrockwell1883]

Maybe he doesn’t want to tell her she’s there because she always makes a big deal of it. Leave her dude

[@terminaterjohn]

he won't answer the phone when he's eating breakfast...talk about clingy.

[@TruePathLiving]

honestly f the trying to get him to admit to an affair, this guy is a POS just based on what she told John, I wouldn't trust him as far as i can throw him. What I would do is get a private investigator and catch him in the act

[@annea6288]

This guy is gaslighting you. Getting angry when you ask questions is a guilt response

[@MeloFloww]

Leave him

[@pinkchilldivestmentor]

LOL he’s soft broken up with her

[@mybricksters9800]

It definitely sounds like he’s cheating run.

[@Margarita_mom]

A woman knows

[@jamesl8311]

Was there ever an update on this?

[@Ian-fb6er]

whoa the ladies are really hating in these comments

[@shannonbrophy3687]

Follow-up please

[@Cougar4u]

Women know. His behavior told her he was cheating. When John said it was a her problem, I didn’t agree with him. She knew things changed for him. Maybe he use to take calls before during meals… now he isn’t. Women know when it changes. I’m glad that when she described the woman’s behavior that John saw it for what it was. But all of us women knew in the beginning. Glad John saw it and changed his stance.

[@Nancy-uc2tu]

I was married to my first husband for three years. I noticed he started to change. I went to my attorney and had him draw up divorce papers. I kept them in my purse. I decided to follow him one day. Sure enough, I saw him with another woman. I walked into the restaurant and said to him “These are divorce papers. Have your attorney contact mine.” She was taken a back. I don’t think she knew he was married. It felt good after putting myself through distress about it.

[@GMAMEC]

Bless you! Having a sense of control makes a difference. Wishing you a joyous life filled with peace, happiness, and authentic love.

[@sitcomchristian6886]

Did you never talk to him about it before lawyering up? 😯

[@Nancy-uc2tu]

@@sitcomchristian6886 when the man starts changing, staying out, changing how he dresses, he’s always got “a dinner meeting” when he’s not a salesman, he’s texting a lot, he’s up to something. If the woman thinks he’s cheating, there are always signs. Women change too when they cheat. If you think it, find out. But nine times out of ten they are cheating. You telling me you wouldn’t notice when your spouse changes, if you have one? When you’ve been with someone long enough you learn their patterns. People are creatures of habit when they’ve been married long enough.

[@Nancy-uc2tu]

@@sitcomchristian6886 people are creatures of habit when they’ve been married long enough. You get to know their pattern. Changing the way one dresses, always going out, texting a lot, going in another room to text and pulling away are some of the signs. After being shut out, I wasn’t going to give him the chance to get more clever. If you think they are cheating, nine times out of ten they are. I was going out on my terms. And he paid the price. If you’re going to cheat, get a divorce first. You’re just giving the other person more ammunition to use against you in court.

[@Nancy-uc2tu]

@@sitcomchristian6886 people are creatures of habit when they’ve been married long enough. You get to know their patterns. They start changing, texting more, going in the other room to text, going out a lot, come on. If you think they are cheating, nine times out of ten they are. I was going out on my terms and he lost.

[@dianem4188]

It was the lying about who was in the rental car and attending dinner/drinks that made me think the caller has a reason to be concerned. I'm glad John changed his mind.

[@Matt-cr4vv]

That but for me it isn’t that there was some expectation that their communication be constant. That isn’t reasonable but it’s clear she didn’t have that as her expectation. What bugs me and sets my alarms off is that he never made an effort to get in contact with her when he was available to make those contacts when he was traveling. Instead his reactions were to always have an excuse as to why they couldn’t communicate pretty much at all and got angry about it. That for me says not everything is on the up and up. Being angry almost always says something is there. When I travel for work I’m not in constant contact with my wife but I make an active effort to contact her and explain my ability to connect to her. The active effort to be transparent to her about it nips those worries in the bud because the issue is the efforts he puts in for his boss and his active effort to not meet her fiancé at any level.

[@jeremy454]

He is probably lying to deflect her worry because he knows how controlling she is

[@javiermorales365]

John is awesome, when she said “whole group is supposed to go but ends up only them 2 in a car rental.” That’s a huge red flag. They go to the bar until 10:30pm that’s showing a close relationship already. Her gut feeling is absolutely right the affair is already happening. The direct approach is correct.

[@Price8903]

I work for an attorney and whenever his gf calls while we’re in a meeting he always says hey and let’s her know that he’s in a meeting with me and still ask her what’s going on, he addresses whatever reason she called and always ends the call with an I love you. This guy is playing in the caller’s face. Your suspicions are accurate, he’s a confirmed and continuing cheater.

[@amilcarballantyne]

In fairness the dynamic is different, you work for your boss, he can do whatever he wants. This guy isn't a boss, so it really may not be possible

[@karri8998]

Have you ever been tempted to tell his wife?

[@Price8903]

@@karri8998 she will be his wife. They’re engaged now.

[@Price8903]

@@amilcarballantyneyeah yeah. Excuses excuses.

[@TruePathLiving]

This is her woman intuition kicking in and she is definitely not wrong.

[@Underthesycamoretree]

My ex cheated with his female boss. He denied it over and over again and made me feel stupid and crazy but I refuse to push aside my intuition.

[@CanonArmQB]

Same intuition that fooled you to messing with him in the first place. Initiation my buttocks lmao

[@princesstelevision67]

That feeling is really something else, isn't it? For me it's like a terrible ringing in the ears I can't ignore

[@vesselfit2use]

*DO NOT MARRY THIS MAN* Hire a P.I and get evidence and then go to HR.

[@DrCbass123]

If you a need a PI for your relationship, it’s already over. Doesn’t matter if someone’s guilty or not guilty at that point. Your trust is gone already.

[@vesselfit2use]

@@DrCbass123 the PI is not for the mending of the relationship. It's for proof. I agree is someone needs to hire a PI then it's over. But clearly this person needs proof to bring to HR. also having proof helps with closure.

[@ericrus1]

Best. Comment. Ever.

[@alwaysyouramanda]

She’s higher up though 😢 she’s in quite the pickle but I think she should go with her gut too. Cheating is definitely my exit. 😢😢 it hurts to hear it wasn’t hers in the past. It can be, girlie. It should be. There’s your out. You’re a lover girl and you deserve a lover boy.

[@Dean543-cc3fd]

Shes super insecure

[@mimimonster]

Having been married to someone who was cheating our whole marriage and his reaction to her concerns, something is going on. The fact that the woman was awkward around her almost confirms it even more. She should hire a private investigator, seriously. Don’t drag it out. Spidey senses here….chances are HE WON’T ADMIT IT. Hire a private investigator. He’s gotten away with it for this long, he likes the current situation. She needs proof to end it.

[@steadystackin7250]

No need to waste money on a PI. She knows what's happening. Whether or not she wants to face it is the issue now.

[@joealt5345]

If you ever need to hire a PI just end it. If the PI comes back and says nothing happened is she going to tell him she hired a PI? Or just lie and act like nothing happened. no need to waste more money its over at that point.

[@gdhhayes2129]

bag the wasted money on a private detective. the guys a dirt-bag cheater; ditch him! EVEN if he came clean on this one, he'll cheat again, because her concerns are dismissed with his anger; he's doing what serves him to his own selfish pleasure.

[@WidgetWW]

If he gets angry when she brings the topic up either he’s cheating, he’s not cheating but he can’t respond to her needs, or she’s overly paranoid. In any case the relationship is doomed and proof doesn’t change that

[@cotopaximusic]

If you're feeling the need to hire a PI, it's time to go

[@orangesplaylist]

Gosh, I can't imagine cheating on someone who's told you their past marriage ended in infidelity. That's really pouring salt on the wound of a vulnerable person. Gross

[@robynpayne9448]

I keep hearing women say not to tell your potential mates that bad things that your exes have done to you, because it lets them know what they think they can get away with. I think they may be right.

[@meganbaute4254]

@@robynpayne9448yes, I’ve been cheated on in my past relationship and I’m afraid to tell my next partner. I constantly hear people say “not all men” but I think a majority of men are cheaters and if you let them know your story before had it gives them an upper hand in the relationship because now they think they can treat you anyway they want to and you will still stay.

[@freelovedragon1417]

You can answer the phone during breakfast with work colleagues. It’s not a business meeting, it’s breakfast.

[@veronicadowdy4429]

Yeah, absolutely! My husband travels extensively for work. He would just step out for a second to talk. He lets me know the time of important meetings so that I don’t call at that time. And, he calls every morning and evening and tells me everyplace they go. Trust is imperative!

[@ditttch]

If it’s an emergency I get it, but if it’s just to talk then it can wait. It’s rude to expect someone to stop eating at a group meal just because you want to chat with them on the phone.

[@JustBeingAwesome]

I'm a 42-year old woman. I wouldn't. I always excuse myself when I have private calls. My colleagues do not need to know what my private business is about.

[@pneron2032]

It's rude to interrupt breakfast with your girlfriend 🥐

[@ronhall5395]

I bet the only people at the work.breakfast are the boss lady and him. She , the boss is trying to move in on him. He may be going with it. He may be just trying to do his job in a very awkward position. The fact she refuses to talk to her is a clear sign she wants your fiance.

[@toscadonna]

He’s not gonna confess and tell the truth, because his employment and personal life is on the line. He’s gonna lie until he’s caught red handed, and he’ll even probably try to lie if she actually does catch him. She should just leave his sorry arse. If he’s already cheating, he doesn’t even like her. Next. Why torture yourself with this jerk?

[@musicfreak115]

He’s either cheating or really flirty with his boss. There’s deff something there

[@dhatch04]

Intuition is almost never wrong in my experience!

[@murderofcrows7738]

Yeah, because people are never wrong 😂

[@Guts318]

If female intuition was so accurate, the divorce rate wouldn't be above 50% with 75% of the divorces initiated by women.

[@lav7161]

@@Guts318 Come on now, you know most of us men cheat all the time. I don't blame them for getting the divorce most of the time

[@WillIam79-c7f]

@@lav7161 an admitted cheater and white knight. You're a rare one.

[@lav7161]

@Will Iam79 A follower who thinks he knows everything with no experience. You're NOT a rare one. Continue being a YES MAN

[@lisaware9697]

“Is he cheating? Will he cheat?” Um. He’s already cheating emotionally. “An emotional affair is a physical affair that hasn’t happened yet.”

[@nitareed4088]

it's already physical...

[@alycewich4472]

Back before there was the term "emotional affair" I knew a woman whose husband had 2 emotional affairs over the years. She ended up feeling worthless as these women took up more of his time and energy than she did. In fact, she begged him to come home earlier as he had the only car and they had 2 little kids. But because they weren't physical affairs. She didn't know what to do. Years later she divorced him. But it was still several years after the divorce that the term emotional affair became a well known word describing an affair that is just as devastating and a physical one. The physical one is worse only in the fact that you can get diseases from it. They both tear families apart.

[@macpduff2119]

Yes absolutely. Cheating isn't merely the physical act

[@myyt3824]

She knows the answer. Yes he’s cheating.

[@Shay-yg7nm]

If your gut tells you hes cheating .. he probably is. My ex did the same thing to me with his coworker. And had all the same signs

[@deb9806]

I bet if she can see his phone records, they text a lot

[@Lauren-i8i]

@@deb9806 100% - If I were her, I would look for a hidden burner phone (likely in his car), check the call / text history on his regular phone and also the Google history to see what he is up to. If he has a search engine that burns all traces of his searches that’s a HUGE red flag. Those who have nothing to hide - hide nothing.

[@oliviah.5846]

Same, and identical signs. Forget a playbook, these guys are all out here running the exact same play lol

[@bethford6884]

I’m glad John changed his mind later in the call and said after hearing how her boyfriend and his lady boss have reacted/responded that he now feels the caller’s intuition is correct. I was glad John changed his mind because I’m sure lots of us were yelling at the screen for her to listen to her intuition. So sad for her, but better to find out prior to marriage.

[@animaluva098]

im glad he changed his mind also and probably is mouthing her.

[@korab.23]

Same. My red flags went up as she described fiancé's reactions and when John gave the advice on how to approach the convo and she said I already did, it was clear.

[@lindabarnette8835]

p 0

[@gmarie3053]

She is going to dodge a HUGE bullet. I’d rather a called off engagement than a divorce

[@alwaysyouramanda]

I swear at some point it’s screaming at you but all of the small signs got so much attention you start to see them all as small. 😢

[@donnareitzel991]

Her partner is being dismissive! His anger is a telltale sign.

[@brendondowdy5651]

People also get mad when accused of something they didn't do. It a tell-tale sign lol.

[@Underthesycamoretree]

Yup!

[@andrewheffel3565]

If you marry him it will end with many, many tears. Love yourself by letting go and moving on. You deserve a loyal mate.

[@bernadettehuff2984]

All I can say is "Trust your gut". If it feels off, then it is off.

[@millim408]

Gut intuition is normally right! My ex husband cheated on me and I had a dream about it, he was in the movie theater with the girl a few weeks before it happened and later I found out he went to the movies with the girl.

[@CrayolaCoffeeBean]

Giiiiiirl you’re psychic! Lol

[@kayn2756]

Wow, too many red flags. Just walk away. If you think he is cheating. He most likely is.

[@BagznBirdz]

A woman's instinct knows. We're just told we shouldn't believe it, then get burnt because we saw the 🚩 but didn't act on it to not seem crazy.

[@dhritikapoor2897]

The man is cheating and everyone knows it - the caller , her bf, the other woman, John, the listeners and the office colleagues. No one is saying it out loud though.