Is Potter out of his depth at Chelsea?

[@OzyMandias13]

As a Chelsea fan, when you said “Let’s just have a look at how Chelsea played yesterday,” I expected the overhead camera shot to reveal a giant pile of dog s*** on the touchscreen table.

[@kashyappatel2926]

Well articulated. 🤣🤣

[@markant9534]

flexible dog s***?

[@quintovicky6277]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@vickjr98]

LMAO

[@TheArtGaloreinternational]

Damn💀😂

[@luke_will_taylor]

I feel like this video still hasn't convinced me he deserves much more time. Also, notice that the two under performing teams in terms of Xpts are Brighton and Chelsea--this brand of football seems to be better statistically, but not in reality.

[@eoghanmyers2330]

yeah, brighton always underperformed on their xG and xPts with potter. Might also be down to not having clinical strikers at either club though

[@srinidhinr0527]

Jon’s videos are never convincing.

[@Ryan-vr2gb]

also notice how Brighton and Chelsea both don't have elite strikers. that's the reason, its not the style of football

[@IEPerez1994]

The expected stats show it, both teams play generally well, even when underperforming. Brighton were limited when it comes to transfers, chelsea are not. Its a matter of properly reinforcing the team, unlike we did last summer.

[@milesstiddard8807]

@@IEPerez1994 just spend another 600m that’ll do the trick

[@ericstallworth5891]

Good analysis. I’d generally argue that the “right trajectory” is only over a 2 game period, which isn’t enough data to say we’re seeing a measurable improvement.

[@kaboodlefish]

And those two games are Southampton and West Ham.. Both in the relegation zone.

[@drwhb13]

Note that those are 10-game rolling averages ending on those two matchdays

[@ericstallworth5891]

@@drwhb13 makes more sense 👍

[@KenAugustino]

Interesting take. I had some similar observation during that dreadful first half. It looks quite 4-4-2 to my eye, and there was an absence of refinement in their tactical approach, almost going man for man all over the pitch, and hoping to overturn Southampton by the sheer quality Chelsea players have over their counterpart. It might have worked the other day, but the state of Chelsea was so fragile, and they were on the backfoot from Minute-one.

[@arpansagar6453]

The problem is the sheer lack of squad harmony. It's something that happens when you don't have a lot of vocal leaders and instead of grooming academy youngsters you decide to bring in a dozen new players which combined with a completely new project manager is a not a good mix. Honestly feel like they should've bought experienced players (23-27) instead of this random mish mash of young attackers.

[@acepsuracep8738]

They don't even have a pressing system. It's like chase whoever has the ball with so little in covering passing options. And lack of understanding is a bit worrying.

[@newrecruit100]

Our shape when we have the ball is so basic and it makes our build up so crap. Why are our full backs in line with our CBs in possession? Why is Enzo isolated in the middle? I dunno why we have gone away from the back 3. It’s the best formation for the squad. Tuchel realised that and went straight to a back 3. Potter main system was exactly that at Brighton, so why is he deviating from it?

[@arpansagar6453]

@@newrecruit100 they mentioned the reason why I guess. Potter plays a fluid system and the back three should've worked but the players probably didn't respond. As for Enzo, I think that's by design ( like a single pivot). They're highly disorganized for sure but it's not just Potter s issue tbh. He's shown that he can coach players that are much worse in terms of ability. It's not as if there's no plan, sometimes players just don't respond to it and that's a cultural issue. Honestly, he needs a core group of leaders. Any good team has that but at Chelsea you'd be hard pressed to find it. Azpi rarely plays and without him there's 0 leadership on the pitch let alone off the pitch.

[@acepsuracep8738]

@@arpansagar6453 Chelsea really should've never sold Jorginho. That's a big L for me. If Jorginho is still here, he can be the no.6 while Enzo can have more freedom to go forward. Also Jorginho and Thiago Silva can be that leader figure on the pitch.

[@alhambra7104]

We have one hand on that Expected EPL Title.

[@F.O.G_Music]

Even though I never wanted Lampard at least in his time, there was something to cling onto , all the young players he introduced played well ,Tammy , Tomori , Gilmour , Reece, Mount all played well Under Potter there's literally nothing to chew on, I can't see one player who improved under him , cant see any element of our play that has improved

[@edge1rated2superstar]

Kepa improved

[@djacks247]

our passing and vertical play has definitely improved. I couldn't take anymore of tuchel's side to side play.

[@OsamaOSadolla]

Our press has suffered badly too, probably the reason we’re 17th if you count potters arrival as start of season

[@kierstanfaulks]

@@edge1rated2superstar kepa improved out of necessity 💀

[@lugebeatzz8747]

@@djacks247 We don't possess as much as TT, when teams stay deep we still play a lot of side way passes, Potter's improvements are too small to even identify, that's why they used stats in this video a lot, there isn't much tactically visible, everything is half cooked.... might be progress in the right direction or inability of implementation..... the next 3 games will be key....

[@Bearskickass976]

"Lets have a look at Chelsea's best team" *Has Azpilicueta at right back and Reece James on the bench*

[@GameDayGuardian]

The first thing i noticed as well

[@jabarshi]

Think it's because James is injured. Can't be otherwise

[@GameDayGuardian]

@@jabarshi i was thinking the same thing until i saw chillwell in the lineup

[@daniel5534]

Tifo have been quite confusing recent days even the tactics presented chelsea don’t play anything like that

[@Omar_Little]

@@GameDayGuardian chilwell is fit

[@samuellassman7668]

As a person that has followed him since he was trainer in Östersund (ÖFK). He can make normal players good. Thats what he does. He has worked with players with a total different mindset. Not winning the league. All clubs he has been with has been with underdogs. Me as a Brentford supporter can se vary many similarities in Potter Grahams work and Brentfords trainer Tomas Frank.

[@wisdomnzube4121]

Which means he is a midtable coach. Not an elite coach....

[@samuellassman7668]

@@wisdomnzube4121 totally agree. I hoped he would stay in Brighton and se if they would be even better then they already are

[@wisdomnzube4121]

@@samuellassman7668 He was into his 4th season at Brighton when Chelsea came.

[@samuellassman7668]

@@wisdomnzube4121 Yes its long if you compare to other trainers. I like when trainers stay longer then that. Like Potter Graham did in ÖFK and Tomas Frank in Brentford

[@jakecortez4795]

@@wisdomnzube4121 Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today

[@lingv_26599]

Tuchel almost had the same injury woes last season but we never lost 3 games in a row like this... we has Pulisic playing Wing back and striker... Chaloba and James in Mid...

[@stnbch3025]

Tuchel failed to win two games in a row since the fall of 2021 like 66% of the time.

[@quabenamonster3137]

Man use malang sarr and Saul niguez to finish top4.... yet still Chelsea fans disrespect him and wanted him out.... as a Chelsea fan I'm happy potter is sinking us 😹

[@lingv_26599]

@@stnbch3025 that's better than losing 3 games in a row my friend

[@lingv_26599]

@Quabena Monster imagine just imagine, its hard to understand at times

[@TheCreeker191]

​@@stnbch3025 You went from not winning 2 games in a row 66% of the time at worst to winning 2 out of 16 at best lol

[@kaboodlefish]

I think Jon's bang on in his closing statement. Chelsea under Potter will continue in their current trajectory.. losing to Southampton, dropping out of Europe, struggling against Fulham and West Ham. Top stuff as always, Jon!

[@mosesb2054]

can you do a video on the difference in Liverpool the last two games?

[@geoffreyfoster6355]

It's surreal to think Chelsea just spent more than several national competitions on players who I've no idea will be any good.

[@fkez0510]

As a Saints fan, i appreciate Potter's charitable donation of 3 points to us 🤣🤣

[@Hugh_Amungus]

Harry Potter: The Boy Who Lived Graham Potter: The Boy Who Donates 3 points

[@undergroundlace1686]

No problem mate 😂😂 i want to see you guys stay up anyway

[@shaqtaku]

I'd even take a 5-0 hammering against Spurs if it will mean Potter getting sacked

[@artair70]

I’d take it at this point too

[@pasekamlotshwa2540]

Unfortunately we play too well for that to happen.... We simply don't score goals

[@joshuakramer758]

Sadly, I'm here as well. Maybe a 10-0 drubbing will stop the trust the process madness.

[@roohdarX]

Agreed, couldn't care less if we lost a derby if it mean that this clueless Potter gets out of our club in the long run.

[@craigskeffers5982]

Jesus look at all those players on the sides 😂

[@gm2407]

Jesus is about the only player Chelsea didn't sign. 22 players on the sides.

[@AliKhan-zf7ox]

There's something fundamentally weak about Potterball at the moment no doubt. But Potter does have the potential to firm up this team to a system of football that works or at leasts gives his successor a leg up

[@NeonNoodleNexus]

With Potter inheriting the poor existing attackers that got even Tuchel sacked, the onslaught of first team arrivals to bed in midseason, and the massive amounts of injuries to key players. I'd evaluate at the end of the season and go from there. Top 4 is already out of reach, relegation is not realistic, sacking him any earlier helps nobody, and tbh is not a true reflection of his ability or the situation at the club.

[@iwantgoals1566]

Wow the first sensible Chelsea comment I've seen today lmao.

[@JD-cf3mv]

Totally agree. I’m willing to lose a few more games and let him work it out. He inherited a disjointed team of players that even Tuchel was struggling with towards the end of his tenure. Ppl seem to forget that there were already fans asking for Tuchel to go towards the end. Because of the sanctions that were imposed we couldnt buy early in summer and eventually made knee jerk buys like cucurella, Koulibaly Aubameyang. We then had a series of injuries to chillwell, James, Forfana, Sterling, Pulasic, and RLC. Who let’s face it not all have returned to their full fitness. James doesn’t look like he’s playing back to 100% yet. Potters now been given a load of new players who have just come from different leagues, countries, personalities and playing systems. And we’re all expected for all these new players to hit the ground running…. Get real ppl. It ain’t going to happen for some time. Most managers need a whole close season plus half a season just to get a team playing to his way…. It happened at Forrest with Steve Cooper. Too many players at once and he’d struggled but he’s slowing turning it around. As much as Abramovich gave us huge silverware the constant hiring and firing of managers has caught up with us and we still have players who played under Di Matteo. That was 8 managers ago… crazy! And even if they sack Potter. Who’ll will replace him…. Some ppl are saying Tuchel? The same guy who back in September I was reading plenty of fans saying he’s ‘gotta go’. I wish real fans would back their team through thick and thin and show support for any manager.

[@muhammadsamiul7182]

Potter deserves time. And Boehly is a sensible man if you look at his past work with LA Dodgers. He built that team slowly and steadily. I hope he doesn't go in a frenzy like Abrahamovich.

[@hazimsone]

Finally a sensible comment from a chelsea fan. Give him time.

[@luke_will_taylor]

Not to mention they need to get rid of about 10 players next transfer window. Then the remaining players will know their role and buy in to his ideas better. Hard to keep 33 players happy.

[@jamie7323]

i think potter will probably go back to a more flexible system next season after having a full pre season to work with the players, the manager and so many of the players coming in mid season makes it very hard to do anything other than a relativity simple and standard system

[@planetfunny681]

Yes he is. He needs to realise he's at one of the biggest teams in England & stop trying to make everyone happy

[@ANGELOFDARKification]

He hasn't given Chelsea fans any reason to think he is the man for the future even if they are bad atm. Small things like how he speaks to the media or about referee decisions are put more onto the spotlight when they lose. He's giving me Moyes at United vibes.

[@musdagli2415]

Xpected this Expected that. Mourinho once said statistics are for those who don't understand football. Results are the most important in a club like Chelsea. We aren't even playing free-flowing, attacking football. Just moments of individual quality, and the rest is horrendous.

[@morlath4767]

My issue with XG/XA is that it's become a measuring stick to beat/support players/teams, and you can pretty much get them to say anything you want. Striker Z hasn't hit his XG? Well, he's either just having a bad run of form, or he's not good enough to put away changes he should be able to. And this depends on the narrative the person wants to tell. At some point, no Expected whatever can hide the fact that a manager/team isn't performing as they should be and something needs to be done.

[@Lpool-mx6rl]

In no world is Graham potter better than Thomas tuchel. He is a decent manager, but wtf are they thinking letting tuchel go.

[@ukbigjon]

Sometimes good managers just aren't cut out to make the step up to a big club. At United we saw that with Moyes, and for me, it looks like that with Potter at Chelsea. But if I were a Chelsea fan; I'd be far more worried about Boehly having become their own Woodward... that should terrify them.

[@Niro314]

What worries me about Chelsea and and their fans is, they seem to not release that this limitless spending can't go on. They still have to follow ffp rules. But if this doesnt work out, they cant make significant changes anymore.

[@adedayooyegunju828]

@@Niro314 the spending is not the issue. The coach is more of an issue than any spending you make. If you spend the whole world it is still the coach that will make that work

[@ukbigjon]

@Noah it all hinges on if they get this spending right; but it looks like they aren't. It's similar to Woodeard buying players who take the same positions up, while not buying players who fit the missing pieces (like a cdm). The nature of the deals is more confusing. Mudryk for that much money and on such a long deal, looks bad business atm. I haven't seen enough of Mudryk prior to Chelsea, to have a clear idea of his quality; certainly people are being way too quick to right him off now. But, he looks like there is definitely potential for him to not manage the physicality of the prem; but they have him in an 8year contract now no matter what happens with him.... it could go badly wrong.

[@joshuafisher4241]

Such a retarded opinion, he hasn't even had a pre-season with them, the whole club is in flux, literally staff who have been there for decades have left including the entire medical department. Thank God the owner isn't as dumb as people on here and will stick with Potter

[@ukbigjon]

@@joshuafisher4241 🤣😂🤣 OK mate 👌

[@connorj6462]

He’s clearly a great coach, but not an elite one. That for me is the simple difference. As a Chelsea fan, I’m used to seeing elite mangers come and go. I’d LOVE to see a homegrown coach succeed here. And I also know, having an elite coach doesn’t always work out. There’s no guarantee of success… but my word, there’s a much bigger chance, right? With Potter, it feels he’ll fall into the category of a “nearly world class” manager. The ones like Moyes, Rodgers, Martinez, Redknapp (just a few off top of my head) who we all respect, acknowledge they’ve done a great job wherever they go but seem to lack whatever is needed at the very, very top. Chelsea is an elite club. It needs an elite coach. Especially now with all these new players in, the level of talent is incredible rn. He lacks an aura that I’d associate with a Chelsea coach. I appreciate that might sound weird. A few more of these performances, and I think he’s done. I hope he can turn it around, but I have little faith.

[@clivet3252]

Moyes got Everton and West Ham into Europe. Rodgers got Leicester into Europe and won the FA Cup. He finished 2nd with Liverpool and was in the title race. Martinez won the FA Cup with Wigan. Redknapp was top 4 with Spurs. The best Potter has achieved is one of the lowest points totals for 9th in recent years and is struggling to better that with Chelsea.

[@ahmdzhrfn]

Maybe people will say GP was a good manager in Brighton, but in Chelsea FC good is not enough. You either need to be great or an elite manager to handle the job. With this loaded team of players, idk whether he can get them to gel anytime soon. 🤷🏻‍♂

[@RefnRes]

Any coach coming into Chelsea had the worst possible job to come into. Hes been at the club for 5 months. Realistically his time with the majority of players is significantly less than that though. The ripple effect from the sanctions has been huge with no club structure for half a season and limited time to really work with players because of an international break before the world cup, massive fixture congestion, then the world cup, then the worst injury crisis the clubs faced yet. For the last few months theres been very limited tactical flexibility because of the injuries. He was moving things around but not because be had a choice to move things in ways that would be optimal for results. He just had to bend the team around what was available and was having to pull players out of the academy clearly before they were really ready for 1st team football. Now there are options but the cohesion needs far more time than hes had to develop. Half the squad has been injured for half the time hes been at the club. You have a player like Wesley Fofana coming back that has as many games played for Chelsea as the January signings. Then half the available squad was bought in January. Thats 7 players hes only had since January to really work with on the pitch. Then you've still got a load of other injured players gradually making their way back that hes not had the chance to work with much or at all in the case of Kante. Some of these players under Potter will be lucky to have had a months worth of his coaching in the 5 months Potter has been in.

[@vickjr98]

Potter won't be sacked so it's fine

[@wisdomnzube4121]

He is not a top coach. A top coach would find a way TO WIN and still drive the process of his project. But a midtable coach can't do that... That's why it feels nothing is working... He don't know where to start.

[@peteredeoghon6457]

Well said

[@JD-cf3mv]

Well said. It’s a shame all the knee jerk, witch hunting chelsea fans can’t realise this. Too many fans brought up with Abramovich school of thought. ie few bad games ‘hes gotta go’. Which I get, it has brought us some silverware in the past but its a unsustainable working model and it’s now catching up with us. And assuming he does get the sack. Who’d replace him. The list of candidates is slim. And whoever it is would need start all over again and the merry go round of sacked managers would start all over again

[@wisdomnzube4121]

@@JD-cf3mv How did Brighton get De Zerbi to replace Potter? You think you can't find a better manager than the hyped English PE teacher? You don't call 3 wins in 17 a knee jerk reaction... That's unacceptable in smaller clubs talk more of Chelsea... Some of us have been sounding our warning from day 1, when Potter to Chelsea rumor came... We saw all these. This is still the beginning....

[@samuelconway8961]

It’s tough because for Brighton potter had huge periods of underperforming and not getting points until he turned it around, but I don’t feel like he’ll get the time with the fans/board at Chelsea to see the turn around and also I don’t feel like the players will buy into it as much😬

[@triggerfinger7831]

I'm convinced Potter is the way for Chelsea. This is a pretty unpopular opinion and it's not hard to see why. Imo Chelsea were just unlucky in their last two matches, the only downside was their finishing. Before they can't even create a clear cut chances. On this kind of form, it's hard to win over the fans but I believe you Potter, don't give up and keep it up. Once a blue, always a blue during high and low.

[@CouldBeSaladFingers]

Absolutely not. I've transferred over to Arsenal for this season because of the poor results. I'm not sure if I'm sticking with Arsenal or transferring to City (Whoever is winning I'll buy their top on GW37)

[@jorgemells]

Fake fan. Disgusting

[@silverheart7964]

So let me get this straight.You're saying he's changed his system and approach because it wasn't working. He then gets loads of players bought in for huge money and then tries to rely on those players' quality to win the ball back and progress the ball forward,rather than having a clear identity of what he wants his players to do in those stages of play. So if he's the coach..what exactly is he coaching? Sounds to me like he's been given all these players but didn't really ask for them,and is fumbling desperately to find a way to get the best out of them in any way he can,rather than have a clear identity and have the players fit that system. So now he's throwing his principles and system out the window and relying on their quality to carry him out. That's not going to work.

[@BillyBob-cy9yi]

Yup he's been changing the starting lineup way too much. He should've been upfront with the players that they are going to have to fight for their position in the squad as there is obviously way too many of them in excess.

[@erdnasiul87]

short answer: yes long answer: HELL YES DUDE!

[@EmsionProductions]

Come back to the superior club, Graham. The water bird supremes, the Swans.

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

Swansea?

[@cobyafrikaner7073]

the seagulls bro

[@angryman132]

We don't want him back

[@dgh6g33gf]

I legitimately believe Brighton is currently cementing its rep as a top 10 prem club.

[@moderatemapper9440]

Brighton is playing better without Potter

[@sosamma090]

Kante is short from carrying every team that he played for.

[@SentientTeapot2444]

Don't understand why Potter plays 4 at the back. He has a tonne of top quality center backs to pick 3 from and free up his midfielders. Instead he plays a 2 with his only proper defensive midfielder injured meaning noones protecting the back line. Kovacic and RLC are not substitutes for Kante.

[@sosamma090]

@@SentientTeapot2444 Because most of the top teams in the league and europe play with 3 forwards. When you play against 3 forwards it is really hard with just 3 defenders.

[@Rob-Bless_Jr]

So basically Chelsea got worse when Potter came in in comparison to the previous 3 managers, Lampard included 😞

[@BlackChrishi]

9:02 any Chelsea team that doesn't include James is not their best team.

[@tutor1989]

Unluckiness?? We should have been 2-0 down in that first half..we were absolutely rubbish, the only reason why xG is high is cos we were desperate and went end to end in second half to score a goal not cos we played well

[@merman9200]

Wow, that info graphic with the injuries is absolutely stunning!

[@marklapena854]

At Brighton, where he’s popularly deemed to have done well, his win percentage was 31.1%; even lower than his win percentage at Chelsea.

[@juantokyo_]

😮

[@tryinggaming414]

Not suprised they finished 16th and 9th in his last 2 seasons at the prem

[@ML3180]

Don't tell the hipsters that. Facts are highly inconvenient for their ludicrous fantasies

[@EgonSupreme]

I wonder if the expectations are different for these two clubs...

[@gray5233]

When Potter took over at Brighton we were a relatively small club that had won promotion to the Premier League for the first time in decades and had barely staved off relegation for two seasons under Hughton. He inherited a poor squad flirting with relegation, so it's to be expected that his win percentage at Brighton was poor, especially in his first 2 seasons. He, the backroom staff and Tony Bloom transformed us from a boring relegation candidate into a mid-table club in 3 years, despite playing a riskier and more exciting brand of football. Potter might not have done well at Chelsea so far, but he defnitely did well at Brighton.

[@Retratobot]

The stats are misleading. Potter doesn’t have a preferred starting 11, doesn’t demonstrate any identifiable style of play and he has been making excuses for too long. He’s not up to it at the elite level.

[@wisdomnzube4121]

It depends on what you call style of play. Then again, the English has no elite coach.

[@Brazil520]

When accounts like 'tifo football' 'Football Daily' recommend you players and managers for your clubs, be very very afraid. Just because his teams were decent at keeping the ball at a mid table team does not mean he is suitable for a big club.

[@ShadyPlatinum777]

Yep. You need a big personality to manage a big club.

[@nabri-nfg3262]

Y'all are trying so hard man, it doesn't matter how you win or how you lose if you keep losing the same way then there's a problem

[@25261006]

Nottingham Forest are 6 points behind Chelsea after signing what seems like 30 players this season. They were a championship club. Using an excuse that it takes time for players too acclimatise to a managers style of play is nonsense, Potter just isn’t tactically good enough to manage a club with the expectations of Chelsea. They never should have sacked Tuchel

[@hobsforpresident]

Surely then the last argument about using a more basic tactical structure to let the newer signings flourish is down to the better quality of the newer players and nothing to do with the tactical adjustment? I really can't see how this is a convincing argument that he's getting things right. Also, the xg and xga graph 'getting better' does not include the difficulty of the opponent which has clearly had an impact on the numbers

[@luyolojele8206]

Hes so out of his depth that yall posted this vid twice🌚😂

[@akamiguelsanchez9985]

It’s so short-sighted from Boehly to throw so many players at a manager that’s already had no preseason to get everyone working together

[@DR-di1ow]

@@akamiguelsanchez9985 Boehly brings a lot of ppayers to Potter is to bench players like Mount and Gallagher but Potter keeps playing them, that's the problems

[@OzyMandias13]

The first team squad had rotted on the vine. It needed a massive overhaul. There still needs to be a clear out in the summer.

[@moderatemapper9440]

@@akamiguelsanchez9985 it's so short-sighted from Boehly to sack a proven great manager so fast and replace him with an untested manager

[@CianMcCabe98]

I think potter would have benefitted from having a summer and pre season before such a big move

[@Football_Advanced]

True they gave tuchel the whole summer and then sacked him as soon as the season started

[@hannibalsby5283]

The reason he was brought in was definitely so that when he got his summer and pre season, he would already have worked with the players for 10 months beforehand. Strictly a long term strategy, but these investors are here to profit long term.

[@moderatemapper9440]

@@hannibalsby5283 You're telling me that they sacked Tuchel who'd already been with the team for a long time, finished 3rd the previous season and won the champions league with the club and brought in an untested manager? No, they aren't here to profit long term, with any football club you aren't going to make back the money Chelsea have spent for a while, and with ffp their spending room is much smaller. Potter's off-season was the January transfer window, he had as much money to spend as he'd like and is still failing despite that..

[@hannibalsby5283]

@@moderatemapper9440 So you think they bought the club to lose for fun?

[@kennycota5099]

Tuchel came in halfway through the season and got them 3rd and a UCL, without £300m being spent to back him

[@ongeziwebesi23]

He had a 31% win percentage at Brighton. Below average manager hyped by the English media

[@Calmzat]

To be out of depth you have to have depth in the first place 😂

[@planetfunny681]

Guy's caught out deep in the Atlantic ocean 😂

[@madmax-xw6ft]

He is a TOP tactician

[@lsb42]

I don’t think a lack of depth is Chelsea’s problem

[@BigMackerel]

Another typical Chelsea fan

[@Calmzat]

@@BigMackerel wrong 🤡

[@keokihiga8462]

Crazy how people talk about expected goals so much more with graham potter. To me it’s a way for a statistician to claim he’s unlucky.

[@sfheffernan]

The xG barely looks like it’s improved at all, 1 game definitely isn’t a trend and it looks like a mess on the pitch

[@ianshack6679]

One thing adjacent to one of your point here: the reason potter plays in a more traditional set up, without the early flexibility, could be that he has tons of new players and wants them to gel before trying to get them playing with more fluidity. However it is sort of difficult to do when you have 31 players in your squad. If potter stays on, I do believe following a summer squad trim, Chelsea will still have difficulties for a few weeks because the real work will start then

[@mau5pilot854]

Why the re-upload?

[@SatanicBeard]

I think it’s fair to say that Potter can be both a good coach (which he is) but also he isn’t good enough for Chelsea (which he isn’t.) Not one player has improved for working under him, and arguably some have regressed. His “achievements” at Brighton were over egged, when in reality he did less than someone like Michael Laudrup did with Swansea.

[@jakecortez4795]

Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today

[@kingseirios4277]

i am a chelsea fan. and having seen chelsea was absolutely destroyed by brighton under de zerbi, i think people already spotted that potter's flexibilty philosophy has so many weaknesses. to be honest i think he and the management staff should've already seen this happening by the abysmal form before the world cup. i don't know if potter already knew that his flexibilty didn't work or not, but in my optimism (or delusional) view, he knew but he can't solve the tactical problem and weaknesses due to injury. so when the winter transfer window is closed and many quality players are brought in, potter change his philosphy to be more standard one it takes time for this fundamental change to work but he is running out of time. both fans and boehly should expect some improvements in form sooner

[@kingseirios4277]

at least if chelsea failed to qualify for UEL, i hope chelsea don't even qualify for UECL

[@nicklikethesoup]

When the underlying numbers were so bad compared to the previous two managers, any modest improvement is an upward trajectory. The sad reality though is the more simple the tactic Potter uses, the less coaching influence he has on the game and the more he has to rely on player talent to carry him because he’s not a fiery motivator. He’s not an Ancelotti or Mourinho who can rely on talented players to carry out a simple vision. Nor does he have the gravitas to carry a culture change at Chelsea. Every one pointing at Arteta as an example of sticking with needs to remember 1) Arteta won the FA Cup his first season, 2) came from a team who won the EPL, 3) has a clear vision of wanting to develop monsters and a history of doing that. Potter has a history of middling performances, no trophies of note, and developing underperformance. If his tactical nous was so crucial for Brighton’s success under him, why are they doing better after he left? Why are their players so sought after by other clubs? Were we all wrong and he was actually holding back a good side? Maybe. Everyday he’s there he looks more like Niko Kovic at Bayern than Julian Nagglesmann.

[@wisdomnzube4121]

The English has no top coach.... Don't expect Potter to be one. Potter is a midtable coach.... Jumping from Brighton to Chelsea is a big ask, similar to Lampard jumping from Derby to Chelsea... Chelsea is not a small club, don't get a small coach to lead them. There are elite coaches....there are midtable coaches.. Don't force Potter to become elite. To be a top and elite coach is much more than playing good football which is what Potter has done in Swansea and Brighton.... At Brighton, here and there, he got wins against Arsenal, City, Liverpool, Tottenham... But you have to check these matches to know the situations around it.... Even at Brighton he went about 8 games winless run several times, but no one cared because it's Brighton....

[@Beeady]

The "really basic 4231" is not how it played out though, Madueke was deep enough to be starting from a RWB position, Mount never dropped back into midfield and DD.Fofana was roaming all over the pitch, not sitting as a 9. There's way more going on there but unfortunately nobody watches the game without looking at the scoreline so it's a futile argument to say that there's been improvements recently

[@moderatemapper9440]

only say there's been an improvement when there's a win

[@connorj6462]

@@moderatemapper9440 exactly.

[@Catusjack38]

It’s mind numbing to see someone try to justify Potter keeping his job after 6 months of poor results. He has been given every excuse in the book, some valid some not but no amount of statistics can justify keeping him on at this point because the results are not coming. Losing at home to 20th placed mangerless Southampton convincingly is unforgivable. This team had not kept a clean sheet in 26 games. Forest, Fulham, 4-1 to Brighton! 2 wins in the last 15 games?! Even when we win we don’t look convincing. I don’t expect Chelsea to win ever game but atleast show some fight. With potter in charge we are toothless. The players have just been given a day off instead of training today, such a weak mentality after a disappointing loss. My question is what does success under potter even look like? Top 4 (which should be the bare minimum), an FA cup in the next couple years? Right now it’s avoiding slipping into the bottom half of the table. What a joke. I’m not sure if the guy in the video even watches Chelsea. Azpi over Reece James in our best line up? Mount has been terrible all season yet he makes our best line up? POTTER OUT. He has lost the fans and soon will lose the players.

[@dannyadams2211]

Mourinho said it best. All these fancy stats are bullshit - look at his win rate and attitude. That’s what counts, not xG. He is finished at Chelsea.

[@petripellinen]

If/when Potter get's boot it should be well prepared and earliest after the season. And then only if the resultsa re not getting better at all. Then the new one should be one of these, Urs Fischer Union Berlin, Christian Streich Freiburg, Oliver Glasner Eintracht Frankfurt. Or if they do not accept then Louis Enrique. But a modern german manager would bring in control and discipline with human understanding too. Glasner would be my favourite.

[@CarlinConnolly]

The problem is the Chelsea fans... after 2 decades of Roman they don't know how to be patient... judge him next season when the squad is closer to his choice and they have a proper striker/finisher.

[@Meedster08]

I think any fanbase would be unhappy if the manager had only won 2 games out of 15 :( I’m not Potter Out btw. Just saying that you can’t blame the fans for being upset!

[@di9465]

I tried to be patient with Potter but if you look at Ten Hag and Eddie Howe and even the guy that replaced him at Brighton, how they transformed their teams in such a short period of time you have to question Potter what is he doing?

[@akachiedoggy5711]

that's the problem. Newcastle do esn't have winning culture so there were so humble to train & grow under Howe, same as United , they've been horrible & trophyless for a decade. but these Chelsea guys just appeared in 7 finals & won 5 trophies less than 2yrs ago

[@jakecortez4795]

Yet arteta was given 2 seasons and look at where arsenal are now.. there are very few times where sacking the manager has actually proved to improve the team if arsenal sacked arteta after finishing 8th they wouldn't be here today

[@yash4296]

Poor from you not to include all injuries. Injuries to Kovacic for example haven't been included. There are others too.

[@lawrenceekene8256]

Using stats to confuse people. The reality is what is the most important. Graham Potter is not that guy for Chelsea. Simple.

[@victoreric4557]

“Never make too many changes at once”

[@roryasrorri701]

Newcastle'a doing it right

[@wisdomnzube4121]

John Terry tweeted in August and said how good football Brighton are showing. Don't worry Chelsea fans.... Are you not playing good football now? Don't worry next season you will play better "good" football... Until you are tired.... Then you will look for a winning coach to help you with trophies.

[@crivatzuldevara]

I understand what Jon's saying, but it still feels like trying to find excuses for the horrible state this Chelsea team seems to be in. He is obviously not doing enough, and I cannot imagine that he's a warrior in the dressing room who riles up the players given how they actually play on the pitch. I wanted to trust the process, but..how much time is too much time?

[@fernandovazquez9709]

That kit goes HARD John. 🔥👍🏼 I think Potter is suited for this Chelsea role. These points support my opinion. It’s his first year y’know. Nobody in the prem has come in and done what they wanted. It takes time.

[@nicklikethesoup]

Not true. Ten Hag, first season, sitting 3rd.

[@Impostor39890]

I sink you're wrong about that.

[@vickjr98]

@@Impostor39890 Hahaha good reference

[@bgrg]

@@nicklikethesoup Ten Hag looks decent tbf. Shame about that.

[@akwilson1676]

Conte half a season top 4

[@ndimenhlemoyo2718]

Azpilicueta over James??? Also rlc has been good alongside enzo

[@ovieiffie7800]

I thought this was uploaded yesterday

[@Meedster08]

Mate, how many kits do you own?

[@lucamazzantijovicevic4478]

you guys at Tifo and the Athletic spoke of him as some kind of absolute managing genius, even though he has done little to prove his worth. I'm glad that the circlejerk is crashing

[@teddj514]

You haven't watched him at Brighton and what his team was doing have you... but I think Todd made a mistake employing him you can't deny he was doing a good job at Brighton

[@MasonGreenWeed]

IKR he's not even better than Alan Pardew

[@everyone1liesd459]

Well imagine my shock that English channels(Tifo) and English paper (athletic) And football hipsters THE WHOLE CREW OF TIFO Loved D riding X.g merchant Graham Potter, these guys would tell you he coached a win and that Chelsea don't need a Zidane or Hansi Flick

[@JamesHussain82]

@@everyone1liesd459 we would need a time machine to get prime Ronaldo in if we got Zidane.

[@everyone1liesd459]

@@JamesHussain82 Rn anything Including your grandma mother is better than Harry Potter

[@dlo11794]

There’s a lot of tactics missing here which I’ll breakdown 1. Potter is coaching this side like a mid table team. Meaning when we defend we sit very far back with our CMs at the top of our box, and our wingers almost playing as a wingback. Issue with this is we are Chelsea a so called big club. 95% of the teams we play aren’t going to treat us like a mid table team when attacking us, they are going to treat us like a top team. While we defend with 9-10 players behind the ball, the opposing team is only attacking with 5-7 players. Great in terms of we don’t give up loads of chances but we have no ability to quickly get on the front foot and counter attack bc teams will always have the numbers against us when trying to progress the ball forward, which leads to a lot of sideways and backwards passes that allow the other team to drop and set up defensively against us. 2. Once again we are attacking like a mid table side. Under Potter even with Reece back in the food our fullbacks aren’t nearly getting high enough and usually one stays back while the other defends. Meaning we only usually attack with 5-6 players against teams who have 9-10 behind the ball. Which doesn’t allow us to create 1v1s and never any overload situations due to slow build up play. If Potter wants to see a turn around he has to start taking risks and trust the players bc 95% of the teams Chelsea face they will have the better quality of the players. The 4-2-3-1 system is a great formation when issued properly. If you are worried about conceding that fine, but there’s much better ways in defending while attacking that would help the team greatly and the main two options are 1. Have both fullbacks push up high and wide and play as wingers, the RM and LM tuck in and play as attacking mids, while the two CBs and CMs hold to give cover. That will allow a CM to cover the wide area if the ball is played out and still give you a CM holding the middle with two CBs. Shape will look like a 2-2-3-2-1. 2. Have one fullback and CM hold, while the other CM and fullback push forward. You get the same numbers going forward but just in a different shape now where the team looks like a 3-1-4-2. If Potter wants to succeed at Chelsea he has to change his mentality on how they approach game, meaning you think about dominating the game and creating loads of chances as the first and most important aspect, then possession, then defending. Right now it’s completely opposite where we think about defending first, then possession, then creating chances which is not a winning mentality but getting results mentality meaning a lot for 0-0, 1-1, 1-0 etc

[@bgrg]

Top 4 was going to be a struggle when the owners decided to bring Potter into the club. It was obvious from the start that Potter was going to need more time. It didn't help that players like Kante, Kovacic, James and Chilwell has all been missing because of injuries. Players like RLC or whoever comes into fill in for these players just aren't good enough and as good as Tuchel is, even he struggled in absence of these players. The new set of players look very exciting to watch and just shows the mediocracy Chelsea has had these past few years. Westham first half and Dortmund were positive except for the result. Partly because the underlying problem of players not being able to put the ball in the net still exists. I thought Potter should have won the Southampton game. Especially since they are bottom of the league. But its very clear now that the owners are willing to give Potter more time than the fans are willing to and rightly so I think. Although personally, that Southampton loss was inexcusable. Prior to the Southampton game, I felt he had good reasons for the way the team has performed so far. imvho.

[@dlo11794]

@@bgrg I actually don’t care too much about points when new managers come, just style of play. I’ll put it like this, when Klopp first game to Liverpool they finished 8th that season, but you could see the amazing football they played but just needed better players on both sides of the ball to get better results, especially defensively. I mean he got that side playing expansive attacking football that got you out of your seat with way less talent than we have in our roster. I was a Potter in guy but I think it’s good to also not die on every word you say and know when it’s time to say yup I was wrong that was not a good idea lol

[@Nalkin913]

Similar xG to Ciry/Arsenal/Utd. We’re hardly conceding goals. Give the man time The season is a write off anyway, it’s as if Chelsea fans are gagging to qualify for the conference league or something lol

[@glenrobinson10]

It's awfully simplistic -- Chelsea have a lot of talented players but zero productive players. They have no game changers who can score or create a goal out of nowhere.

[@billycole3565]

was this uploaded yesterday?

[@stereomike75]

It's deja vu all over again

[@reekoprince9444]

@@stereomike75 and again

[@woodside4life]

@@reekoprince9444And again.

[@reekoprince9444]

@@woodside4life lol

[@Nnnuuk]

Too much tinkering didn't go well for a former Chelsea manager. Statistics are fine on paper, but you need confidence to be successful, and that confidence comes from a manager that makes the players and fans believe that they are going to win, not one that accepts defeat philosophically. However, I could be more philosophical about defeats if I was paid the fortune that Potter is getting.

[@108u9]

Yes he’s out of his depth. No he won’t get sack because TB needs a docile employee. TB knows GP needs Chelsea, Chelsea doesn’t need GP; GP has no leverage. TB is not about creating a winning team. It’s about pumping valuations until he can flip the club for a massive profit, or leverage the club’s name to take out loans. Look at United, they’ve hardly won anything but yet remain one of the most commercially lucrative clubs. TB knows that winning trophies is just a nice to have. Especially so because it’s an expensive endeavour. Folks in the money game aren’t going to hinge upon how many trophies are there when valuating the club. It’s just not a significant determinant. It’s not a monetary asset because you can’t sell your trophies. What you can sell is players. You can see where TB has put his attention by looking at the money. The squad put together by TT is well strong enough. Surely it’s a stretch to think GP’s standards are so far beyond TT and what he can work with. There was no need for a “rebuild”. The spending spree is not about a squad rebuilds as much as it’s packing in hype (just look at who they’ve gone for). If trophies did matter, why would FP and co push for a non competitive ESL? If it were about testing one’s mantle, you won’t be fearful of entering the ring with the best. These folks just want more money. As long as there are players willing to sign to TB’s CFC for a fat pay cheque, it will keep TB’s plan going towards a fat exit. Trophies, wins are irrelevant. If it happens, great. TB could care less what comes of CFC once he gets his fat ROI.

[@dhruvraman4608]

I think part of the question is whether a manager is responsible not just for tactics but also "getting the best out of the players." The question then becomes whether the performance in comparison to the XG is also a reflection on the manager!

[@devincomrie3675]

I did the statistics check and I realized the time it would take graham potter would be way more than 3 years

[@TheIncredibleBeard_]

Chelsea being a basket case of a club, has something to do with it as well

[@Shri7even]

Just accept it, Graham Potter is not an elite tactician. No structure and zero understanding of positional play which is essential to having a team create the best of chances and play efficient football in the modern game hence why he's struggling. Not surprising though because he has an "English" understanding of the game unlike Spanish or German coaches and even Dutch. No concept of a rest defence, positional play, stretching the opponents to create space, side overload and switches and add to that his defensive incapabilities. The English football education system is appalling. The only reason he's still at the helm is because he is English and nothing else. Any other manager from a different nationality would've been sacked by now. This English ego has to go. They simply don't produce coaches that are good enough especially for the modern game.

[@tdyerwestfield]

"Potter has had to deal with lots of injuries". Just the 10. Liverpool have had 25 of the 27 man squad out injured across this season. Salah and Elliott are the only players to not miss a game with injury this season for Liverpool.

[@hazimsone]

Jeez klopp has been at the club for 5 years, he already instilled his style of play in the core roots of every liverpool players and he knows all of his players for freaking 5 years. Potter just came in for 5 month, hasnt know all his players strength and weakness then add in with the january players that he also need to study them/get to know them one by one, no wonder the team is not performing. Give his time jeez

[@MrDphillips88]

Unfortunately football isn't about "expected" points, goals etc. It's about what actually happens

[@HufflepuffDaddy]

Sorry but your best starting XI for Chelsea (at 9:03) should include Reece James over Azpilicueta. It's not even debatable. Kovacic is also questionable as Enzo's midfield partner because, besides Enzo, our MF is a major problem area.

[@kinkajou23]

I am not a chelsea fan but their transfer window was very weird, when you don't have a manager with a philosophy and a strategy to integrate the new signings the money looks like it was just burnt, It felt like a kid playing FIFA and buying players, I am not saying the signings were bad (Badiashile is great) it just that if they had a proper manager (tuchel maybe) they could have benefited way more of the money they spent, what they need is a manager that would be able to make the most out of the players they signed, and integrate them into the team, and It should be soon before players start loosing confidence and thus effect their performance and progress.

[@eqaruss]

Wasn't this video privated yesterday?

[@madmax-xw6ft]

Pls don't delete

[@oldskoolmusicnostalgia]

Of course he is, but he can't be subjected to the sort of criticism faced by Scolari, Villas-Boas, Mourinho or Conte because he has the right passport, the one that grants immunity.

[@ShadyPlatinum777]

Exactly. It’s almost laughable how blatant it is.

[@gilbertgoetz2287]

Boehly / Clearlake Cap have brought a private equity operating style to the Premier League. This means Boehly / Clearlake need to deliver ~20% ROI (I made up the number, but it’s a large number to attract investors no matter what) annually to investors. The typical PE investment period is 4 - 6 years with year 1 being the re-organization year, with mediocre returns. Year 2 and beyond are when superior results are expected. Private equity firms will challenge orthodoxy when they sees an opportunity. Thus the long contracts with young stars - in - the - making. Potter has a history of developing players, too. Potter has had to rebuild essentially from scratch mid - season and with players who likely won’t be around next year (e.g. Ziyech, Pulisic, Jorginho). I agree with Tifo’s analysis. It indicates that Boehly’s / Clearlake’s strategy is working. They are building for the future, and will earn substantial royalties once the team achieves pre - eminence again.

[@HenSt-gz7qj]

Chelsea seems more fit playing in a 4222 or 433 (either with a no10 or false-9) based on available players.

[@luke_will_taylor]

I think 4-3-3 makes more sense for midfield solidity. The only problem is it takes out one of the billion attackers at the club.

[@allydoodah]

Highest position he ever took Brighton to was 10th, I think that’s his level as a manager. I mean, look what Di Zerbi is doing with the same group of players

[@collapsiblechair9112]

But they didn't bring him as the manager because he reached 10th place.

[@tp-sk8957]

You must have forgotten that Brighton were fourth in the league when Potter left… if you really think de Zerbi isn’t benefitting from Potter’s work from the last 3 years, you are deluded. Next season will be completely different after Potter has a full pre-season with Chelsea.

[@adhnaanahmed5029]

Di zerbi made mitoma came into prominence.gud revelation of player he js

[@allydoodah]

@@tp-sk8957 didn’t he leave after like 2 games? 😂

[@tp-sk8957]

@@allydoodah 8 games I think. There’s no telling what would have happened had he stayed at Brighton but I suspect they’d be in about the same position they are in now. Remember that they had barely survived relegation when he came in and soon they could be in Europe, playing some of the most attractive football in the league.

[@spyox2215]

I would like the same video about Nagelmann who's been looked at similary as Potter

[@pedropierre9594]

Potter is what Chelsea deserve 😂 for sacking Tuchel so nonchalantly

[@notyourfriend1634]

I love how everyone was praising potter at Brighton, he goes to Chelsea and performs about as expected for a system project manager in his first season, and everyone loses their head crying. If anything out of all of this I've learned how entitled Chelsea fans are

[@wisdomnzube4121]

I followed Potter from the first time I saw him in the EPL. Till this season he was 4th after 6 games. I never wanted him close to Chelsea. The same as cucurella. I don't jump into hype train... The same way I watched ziyech at Ajax and even with all the applause he got there.... I never wanted him at chelsea. Cos I saw he was not good enough... The same as Leao at AC Milan.

[@AlexTheCellist]

Our passing and moving is just too slow, physically moving the ball along the ground. Every time we came close to the Southampton penalty area or goal, there were a team of players in the way, no-one got a clean shot off, we're not generating high value shooting chances and our players confidence is so shattered that they miss chances they should take.

[@athrvsharma2298]

any idea where they buy their retro jerseys from?

[@danielthuku8192]

No he does not need more time. He tinkers too much. Plus even his best tactics are suboptimal in modern football. Building up in a 3-1-6 will almost always lose to modern teams that build up in a 3-2-5 or 2-3-5. Another thing is wingers are better on the touchline than fullbacks because they are wingers. In conclusion, Chelsea is a madness at the moment. A bad manager, gung ho owner and a team built for no particular system.

[@gmoney1664]

I really don't see him as being out of his depth, he's shown a lot of the qualities you want in a great manager. But for me he needs time. Chelsea have pretty much bought another team since he came in, so that's more players that he needs to understand and get to gel, that's not easy and everyone thought Forest would be done for (at the start of the season) due to similar reasons. But given how the Chelsea fans can be and how the owners seem to want an instant result, I'm not sure he's got that much time to left

[@Carismaticsa]

Im so depressed I’ve made a decision not to watch Chelsea play for a few weeks ill just catch the update on twitter

[@vickjr98]

Lmao I thought I was the only one

[@sammy0boi]

I feel the same!

[@peheoli6353]

funny how its opposite for me, now that we r underperforming so massively, i can watch the games and expect nothing, i know we can get a draw at max, its been great

[@luke_will_taylor]

Twitter is worse for me because everyone is so emotional on there. I’d rather watch the game and stay off Twitter lol

[@-venomblustudios-7069]

@@luke_will_taylor I can't handle getting bullied by Arsenal/Man U fans in Twitter anymore

[@benbrown7174]

Does the xG improvement show that he has made an improvement or just had an easier run of games?

[@TheIrishFoley]

It shows improvement. They are generating better chances

[@benbrown7174]

@@TheIrishFoley they are… but against the likes of Southampton, Bournemouth, Forest, Fulham, West Ham…

[@beejan1010]

good point, if only there’s a way to factor in opposition strength in these kind of stats

[@TheIrishFoley]

@@benbrown7174 you don’t know ball 😂

[@AllMyFri3ndsAr3D3ad]

can you please straighten the frames in the background it’s driving me bonkers