Is Roberto Firmino the best player in the world in his position? | Gilberto & Wright | The Debate

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Gilberto Silva & Ian Wright discuss Brazil's World Cup hopes and question whether Roberto Firmino is the best nine and a half in the world.
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@jackcarey4902
@jackcarey4902 6 жыл бұрын
The people who say Gabriel jesus is better than Firmino play too much fifa haha
@Jay-wm2im
@Jay-wm2im 6 жыл бұрын
Jack Carey why he not 1st team for Brazil then?? 🤔
@AK-el3we
@AK-el3we 6 жыл бұрын
+Jaden Dal compare Firmino and Jesus stats this season
@sameerr01
@sameerr01 6 жыл бұрын
Jaden Dal Brazil's system fits Jesus more, Coutinho and Neymar always want the ball at their feet which isolates firmino, Jesus much more suited to not touching the ball often and being a poacher
@Jay-wm2im
@Jay-wm2im 6 жыл бұрын
But if he was the best in the world he'd be in any team, no? Compare trophies with Firminho. Not to mention he's way younger 😁
@John10lfc
@John10lfc 6 жыл бұрын
Connor Bearman Firmino is excellent playing direct play because he’s so good in the air and has brilliant hold up play
@David-yp9ou
@David-yp9ou 4 жыл бұрын
8:40 Firmino chat 👍
@singglefighter921
@singglefighter921 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@thechannelofall398
@thechannelofall398 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks bro
@nikhilnk7
@nikhilnk7 6 жыл бұрын
Not a Liverpool fan but I rate firmino very highly and he is good at finishing, he facilities the play for other players and is surprisingly unselfish for a no 9 reminds me very much of benzema from his early lyon and madrid days. A very lethal striker who can do lot of stuff of the ball too
@XanCakes1
@XanCakes1 6 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Dey Very accurate 👍👍👍
@realkl2722
@realkl2722 6 жыл бұрын
I don't understand Liverpool fans say he's a striker, then a false 9, and then neither. WTF is he?
@foongjunemeng8935
@foongjunemeng8935 6 жыл бұрын
JK UK - a very unique player .
@Sameer_Hussain_007
@Sameer_Hussain_007 6 жыл бұрын
Nikhil Dey I'm Barca fan and I think Benzema is a very good player and would be one of the best strikers if Ronaldo wasn't that selfish. Benzema is a team player.
@uralwong799
@uralwong799 6 жыл бұрын
For me he's almost the definition of a false 9. What's the argument against?
@HawtButCold
@HawtButCold 6 жыл бұрын
Shows you how little people know the role bobby plays because people are saying jesus, Not comparable at all.
@hailnijo7099
@hailnijo7099 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby Firmino
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
HawtButCold Firmino drops deep, Jesus is a poacher and runs the lines more
@merahboy69
@merahboy69 6 жыл бұрын
don't worry. just like people used tp talk about the no. 6 as the Makelele position, they will soon talk about the no. 9 as the Firmino position
@tehryhzer4185
@tehryhzer4185 6 жыл бұрын
You clearly don’t watch city. Jesus drops so deep to offer build up play. You rarely see him get in behind.
@merahboy69
@merahboy69 6 жыл бұрын
sorry...but the Jesus role was taken a long time ago in Betlehem
@marcusfletcher8804
@marcusfletcher8804 6 жыл бұрын
Finally! A proper debate. About time bobbie got the recognition he deserves
@officialmohamedsalah5798
@officialmohamedsalah5798 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus can create fear into opponents keepers and defenders but Firmino will create fear into the whole team.
@JoeR27725
@JoeR27725 6 жыл бұрын
Tre Ert ffs 😂😂😂
@skn6070
@skn6070 6 жыл бұрын
OFFICIAL MOHAMED SALAH How's that 😂😂😂he ain't gonna go to defence and slide tackle
@americaninsurgent4403
@americaninsurgent4403 6 жыл бұрын
Tre Ert lol
@Demolion951
@Demolion951 6 жыл бұрын
I think you are getting mixed up between Firmino and MESSI
@officialmohamedsalah5798
@officialmohamedsalah5798 6 жыл бұрын
Demolion951 I do respect the alien of football and I can't mix him with anyone on this planet.
@seb5696
@seb5696 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is not a striker. He seems to have created his own position, that is why I find him one of the best players in the world at the moment. Many people don't rate him because they don't know what position he takes, because he doesn't have the goals to be discussed as the best striker or the assists to put him amount the best playmakers. But when you watch him play you understand why many people call him one of the best football player in the world today. His movement off the ball is unparalleled, his understanding of the game is amazing and his vision on the ball is up there with silva.
@nickagger534
@nickagger534 6 жыл бұрын
Maximus Coolus Kidus It's not his own position? Muller, Benzema, Mertens all play the false 9 position.. there's lots.
@user-ft7dh4oz7q
@user-ft7dh4oz7q 6 жыл бұрын
This position has been around forever it's just not popular in modern day formations we never see it. Dennis Bergkamp and Del Piero were the kings of this position.
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 6 жыл бұрын
Delusional kid.
@niallstock3629
@niallstock3629 6 жыл бұрын
"the vision of Silva" firmino isn't even able to lace Silva's boots, nevermind compared to Silva
@derrickogbechie5384
@derrickogbechie5384 6 жыл бұрын
He plays the exact same role like Totti did in AS ROMA and 2002 world cup. That's the only player I have seen in such unique role
@kabirali9232
@kabirali9232 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino was always important to Klopp's pressing style and attacking philosophy but didn't have great output. Now he has 22 goals, 11 assists AND is a workhorse off the ball. Not to mention he isn't even the main goalscorer of the team (Like Lukukau, Morata, Lacazette). An amazing player who's a great option for Brazil
@pazthepole2814
@pazthepole2814 6 жыл бұрын
Kabir Ali Lacazette doesn’t Even Start for Arsenal And if he does he’d play LW
@khosta6690
@khosta6690 6 жыл бұрын
23 goals
@kabirali9232
@kabirali9232 6 жыл бұрын
Khosta yeah 23. Didn't count his UCL playoff goal
@ants80
@ants80 4 жыл бұрын
No one would have Neymar over firmino not one Liverpool fan and that in itself speaks a thousand words
@kennethmccalla4217
@kennethmccalla4217 4 жыл бұрын
Spot on ...i agree with.that i would not swap neymar for firmino .FIRMINO IS WORLD CLASS
@olabanjistv4626
@olabanjistv4626 6 жыл бұрын
I am a Barça fan and I love watching both Liverpool and city in the EPL but in my opinion Jesus is overrated for me fam . Firmino has discovered himself so much and has become one of the best attackers in the game .
@toshiyapangaier7059
@toshiyapangaier7059 4 жыл бұрын
Uffff...I bet you hate Liverpool now .. "CORNER TAKEN QUICKLY...OORRIIIGGGIIIII"
@toshiyapangaier7059
@toshiyapangaier7059 4 жыл бұрын
@NormalDude corner taken quickly..I don't CAAAARRRREEEEEEEEE
@toshiyapangaier7059
@toshiyapangaier7059 4 жыл бұрын
@NormalDude CORNER TAKEN QUICKLY COZ I AM BBBBOOORRRREEEDDDDD
@waughy9103
@waughy9103 3 жыл бұрын
but what about origi? mwahahahaha
@waughy9103
@waughy9103 3 жыл бұрын
@@toshiyapangaier7059 came for comments, wasnt dissapointed
@debanshdash9312
@debanshdash9312 6 жыл бұрын
Jurgen Klopp has literally created such a unique position for Roberto Firmino, where he plays in a mixture of no 9 and a false no 9 He is only one of a kind, no one is really close do what he does.
@simonjrgensen6761
@simonjrgensen6761 6 жыл бұрын
It's not unique though.
@debanshdash9312
@debanshdash9312 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Jørgensen so tell me who else does it?
@NJ0711
@NJ0711 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Jørgensen not unique? Explain.
@examper22
@examper22 6 жыл бұрын
Debansh Dash Muller does
@debanshdash9312
@debanshdash9312 6 жыл бұрын
He's not a striker anymore, he plays down the wings or behind the striker
@oliverforway3868
@oliverforway3868 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino imo is the most underrated player in the Premier league
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 6 жыл бұрын
Oliver Forway true
@MaizenBlue81
@MaizenBlue81 6 жыл бұрын
Son Heung Min
@oliverforway3868
@oliverforway3868 6 жыл бұрын
JohnnyFootballA M His also very underrated
@ujustgotdunkedon4523
@ujustgotdunkedon4523 5 жыл бұрын
Oliver Forway Eriksen
@ujustgotdunkedon4523
@ujustgotdunkedon4523 5 жыл бұрын
Or Son
@samirg8072
@samirg8072 4 жыл бұрын
So, a year on and Firmino is even better than ever and defo better than any other player mentioned :) Wrighty is right ;) Ha!
@ididyourmum9000
@ididyourmum9000 4 жыл бұрын
Sam G de bruyne is 2 million times better than him and there’s stats and everything to prove it firmino is overrated
@ZebediahDunfey
@ZebediahDunfey 4 жыл бұрын
@@ididyourmum9000 does de bruyne not play midfield though....
@ididyourmum9000
@ididyourmum9000 4 жыл бұрын
yy dd yes he does you melt
@hercjulio4138
@hercjulio4138 4 жыл бұрын
Bobby Firmino is a genius player
@Aiidannnn
@Aiidannnn 4 жыл бұрын
ironic how this comes up in my suggestions after that performance against newcastle 🔥
@lekzintshering7666
@lekzintshering7666 4 жыл бұрын
LOL! same!!!
@rohanpuranik5673
@rohanpuranik5673 4 жыл бұрын
same XD
@mo6343
@mo6343 6 жыл бұрын
As a united fan, Firminho is absolutely world class... No doubt and I’m not shying away from it, he has all the attributes, skills, goals, dribbling, everything honestly and he’s so underrated. He can accommodate as a winger striker or attacking midfielder. The versatility he possesses gives an advantageous effect to his team.
@bigjohnny12345678
@bigjohnny12345678 6 жыл бұрын
The answer from Liverpool fans is basically, no hes not a ST, and no he's not a false 9, basically saying he plays a completely unique role/position, so obviously he is the "best in the world at it" seeing as he's the only one that does it under these strict specifications that Liverpool fans are applying
@Sameer_Hussain_007
@Sameer_Hussain_007 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford I'd pick Firmino over Dybala and Mertens. - Barca fan
@uralwong799
@uralwong799 6 жыл бұрын
Liverpool fans aren't a hive minded consciousness. We're individuals who have differing opinions. For me he's a false 9.
@joestockton7016
@joestockton7016 6 жыл бұрын
bigjohnny12345678 That might be the best comment I've ever seen on this channel. I'm an LFC fan. Firmino is great, but defintely not the best in the world in ANY position (including fabricated ones).
@foongjunemeng8935
@foongjunemeng8935 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford wrong . Firmino beats Mertens in dribbles , interceptions , tackles , key passes while Mertens only beats Firmino in goals and shots on goal .
@cousinwes1
@cousinwes1 6 жыл бұрын
Timestamp?
@neilstamp9444
@neilstamp9444 6 жыл бұрын
His fitness and stamina levels must be through the roof never stops working. Must be a dream for the rest of the Liverpool team playing with him. My only doubt with him was goals but think he's addressed that. Ynwa
@nathan_connor3132
@nathan_connor3132 6 жыл бұрын
Oh boy,all these salty united fans hating on firmino saying he's the only false-9 , "Dries Mertens , Dele Alli,Thomas Muller,Even Mess I years ago....don't be salty because we played 30mill and he is world class and ye played 90 for lukaku who is very in-out of form and his first touch lands two planets away
@thefatcontroller7443
@thefatcontroller7443 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan_Connor dele is not a false 9.
@nathan_connor3132
@nathan_connor3132 6 жыл бұрын
niall o c he has played there at times False9/Support striker
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 6 жыл бұрын
Messi is playing false 9 atm. Idk what you're talking about.
@judasiscariot2648
@judasiscariot2648 6 жыл бұрын
Nathan_Connor “But lukaku has 1 more combined goals and assists” but lukaku is your lone striker. Salah has almost double lukaku’s goals do that’s the direct comparison. Bobby is a second striker who will be anywhere in the opponents half at anytime, he’s not a striker he’s entire function is to enable other players. And he still only has one less than lukaku. So UNLAAAACKEYYYY.
@aamir_7027
@aamir_7027 6 жыл бұрын
Judas Iscariot Lukaku also plays in a very defensive team, of course he's going to have less goals and assists than players playing in an attacking team like liverpool.
@ArsenicCriminal
@ArsenicCriminal 6 жыл бұрын
neymar, firminio, coutinho, casemiro, fernandinho, paulinho, marcelo, ederson wwow
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 6 жыл бұрын
And the french team
@thelastlegbender7903
@thelastlegbender7903 6 жыл бұрын
Allison will start ahead of ederson
@dcsupremebasketball5358
@dcsupremebasketball5358 6 жыл бұрын
Very good question ngl not many false 9s around. Firmino and Mertens are up there as some of the best for me in that role atm but I'd give it to Muller whos discovered his form again. Edit : somehow forgot Dybala, he's defo in contention for best false 9
@nickagger534
@nickagger534 6 жыл бұрын
Dc afc Benzema 👍
@slowmoocow
@slowmoocow 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford Messi is more of a midfielder atm.
@krumkrum476
@krumkrum476 6 жыл бұрын
Petter Tveit nooooo he isnt hes playing upfront
@dcsupremebasketball5358
@dcsupremebasketball5358 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford couple months ago I would've agreed but Muller is a class player in the right system.
@xp7724
@xp7724 6 жыл бұрын
How is he a false 9 when he plays behind Higuain?
@syedahmed2637
@syedahmed2637 4 жыл бұрын
Firmino...what a player!
@neilstamp9444
@neilstamp9444 6 жыл бұрын
As people are pointing out there may be better. But we're happy to have him at Liverpool.
@splinter360
@splinter360 6 жыл бұрын
I think for sure he's the most underrated player in the world. Firmino is a catalyst. He essentially takes all midfielders and forwards on the pitch to another level, whilst also chipping in with goals and assist himself.
@michael43567
@michael43567 6 жыл бұрын
Muller. He's been world class for years
@jareddavies1699
@jareddavies1699 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Müller is a raumdeuter not a false 9
@KA-on1pe
@KA-on1pe 6 жыл бұрын
He’s no longer a false 9
@ellishowarth2113
@ellishowarth2113 6 жыл бұрын
He's not world class
@cosmicbubble12
@cosmicbubble12 6 жыл бұрын
What on earth is a false 10. A cm? 😂
@p.r.sz.7948
@p.r.sz.7948 6 жыл бұрын
cosmicbubble12 you could describe it as a mix of 9, 10 and cm, who is also comfortable on the wings
@cerebralpaul9032
@cerebralpaul9032 6 жыл бұрын
Benzema used to do this incredibly well, Müller is also not too shabby
@martinkerrmusic
@martinkerrmusic 6 жыл бұрын
Because of the incredible amount of running he puts in, and his brilliant awareness and anticipation, Firmino is able to act as a forward and a midfielder, effectively giving Liverpool an extra player on the pitch. Much like Kante was able to do the work of 2 men in his title winning seasons with Leicester and Chelsea. He has added so much to his game this year.
@ZachJJames-hc1cf
@ZachJJames-hc1cf 6 жыл бұрын
I’d say Firmino plays a similar role to Griezmann and Dybala
@dr.strangelove4665
@dr.strangelove4665 6 жыл бұрын
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubeMan griemann yeah ... dybala plays more on the side and he is faster
@ZachJJames-hc1cf
@ZachJJames-hc1cf 6 жыл бұрын
Pastor Maldonado He may be quicker, but the positions they play are awfully similar, and Bobby also roams and appears out wide at times, similarly to both Griezmann and Dybala
@dr.strangelove4665
@dr.strangelove4665 6 жыл бұрын
WackyWavingInflatableArmFlailingTubeMan that's right
@salehahmad9492
@salehahmad9492 6 жыл бұрын
Dybala is a bottler, doesn’t turn up in the biggest matches
@daniel_b07
@daniel_b07 6 жыл бұрын
he scored twice last season against Barcelona and knocked them out of the Champions League. not a big match?
@iem7252
@iem7252 6 жыл бұрын
Best CF's: 1. Firmino 2. Dybala 3. Muller
@samd8018
@samd8018 6 жыл бұрын
He’s not the best goal scoring striker. But he plays his role as a false nine as one of the best in the world, but this is the season where he’s shot up and now he needs to continue his form throughout his career.
@sadifislam9974
@sadifislam9974 5 жыл бұрын
Ian Wright is one of my favourite pundits.He’s so nice and humble.
@ShaneJoshua1980
@ShaneJoshua1980 6 жыл бұрын
Gilberto was so underrated at Arsenal, when he was there he went about his work quietly, when he wasn't he was so badly missed.
@AJ-dl2by
@AJ-dl2by 6 жыл бұрын
Agree
@footballsden8653
@footballsden8653 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is a very capable finisher but he still has not convinced me yet that he is a match winner. Helps also when you have a player like Salah on your team.
@JonasFilberg
@JonasFilberg 6 жыл бұрын
Love these two. 🙏
@enigmatic474
@enigmatic474 6 жыл бұрын
Frankly I'm glad Firmino is underrated by so many. It'll be hard enough holding on to Salah in the coming seasons, hopefully we don't have to fight off bids for Bobby too. Though I doubt that - people are starting to wake up to his genius I fear...
@RamboA12
@RamboA12 6 жыл бұрын
He's a great player but I wouldn't count him as a number 9. He is sometimes Liverpools best midfielder even though he plays up front
@nathan_connor3132
@nathan_connor3132 6 жыл бұрын
To those hating on firmino saying nobody has played as a false nine other than him.....Leo Messi played there before Suarez,Dries Martens at Napoli,Thomas Muller,Even Dele Alli at times...
@XtraRapidHD
@XtraRapidHD 6 жыл бұрын
muller is the best false 9 (cf) in the world
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 6 жыл бұрын
OnixX when as muller ever played as a false nine the man plays as a false ten with his late runs into the box that he has perfected
@XtraRapidHD
@XtraRapidHD 6 жыл бұрын
he is a cf
@GeorgeRobbins96
@GeorgeRobbins96 6 жыл бұрын
I didn't see the 'in his position' bit before I clicked this and I nearly had a heart attack
@runningsuperska
@runningsuperska 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino has made his own position. He's masterful. Arguably one of the best defence players going too.
@MyManShrek
@MyManShrek 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby !!!
@daniellejel4033
@daniellejel4033 4 жыл бұрын
No doubt. One of the best players in the world! He does it all
@kharkalimbu5150
@kharkalimbu5150 4 жыл бұрын
For me Bobby Firmino is the best in his position. This is his own creation that his role is the combination of no. 9 & 10 yet no one has any clue how to stop him
@ajstyles7961
@ajstyles7961 6 жыл бұрын
I'm a Chelsea fan but this was a really nice little debate. Gilberto seems a class act
@yasinrahman9301
@yasinrahman9301 6 жыл бұрын
he has scored more goals than jesus but jesus starts for Brazil
@QxDShaDowZz
@QxDShaDowZz 6 жыл бұрын
Massive Liverpool fan here but this is an unfaiir comparison. Jesus has been injured for a huge part of the season and had to compete against Aguero at the start of the season
@yasinrahman9301
@yasinrahman9301 6 жыл бұрын
ok but his overall play is much better than jesus
@Adox28
@Adox28 6 жыл бұрын
Jesus is better though
@petrklem6749
@petrklem6749 6 жыл бұрын
Brazil likes aggressive and pacy strikers. They play quick attacking style hence G.Jesus is first choice
@dabspur8761
@dabspur8761 6 жыл бұрын
If ure calling him a striker then not even top 2 in the prem. If ure calling him a forward he's not even best at Liverpool. But if ure calling him a false 9 striker/midfielder cross which I think he is. Then he's close because the only player like that I can think of definitely better is Messi. You don't get many players that can play both central striker and creative midfielder and such a high level. In the individual positions there's players better. EG Kane is a better striker but would u want to drop Kane in as the creater? In the modern game high level versatile players r priceless. Liverpool have two great players in him and Salas. With the bissness their set to do in the summer I'm looking at them for next year as something to fear
@inocenciofrancisco2859
@inocenciofrancisco2859 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is a great player in his position, I agree with Ian, apart from scoring he does a lot of defending too.
@SDCLFC1
@SDCLFC1 6 жыл бұрын
Bobby plays in the centre, wears 9, scores lots of goals from inside the box like a striker, but is not the striker. He is a forward who happens to be playing through the middle. Salah is the striker who is doing the role from the wing. Football is always finding ways of reinventing positions, strategies and tactics so it can find new ways to unlock defences. Firmino's goals often come late in games perhaps even the third or fourth goal, arriving late, after teams have been driven back. Before that point he is further back towards the midfield, sometimes being a part of it - he's not up-top making runs to release the ball out of defence either behind back-lines or to hold it up - that's what Salah is doing. Salah is playing higher than him so he is the one doing the job a striker does, just from a different position. Love Firmino - gorgeous player. Cannot understand how, after the barrenness of Brazilian World Cup success (for their standards), and the manner in which star players have performed so limply at recent World Cups, that the Brazilian Manager doesn't feel like he's hit the jackpot with Firmino being available to him.
@kkkk-hb7nb
@kkkk-hb7nb 6 жыл бұрын
Yes
@wnd9434
@wnd9434 6 жыл бұрын
False 9? Lets see who else..
@Adox28
@Adox28 6 жыл бұрын
Right. Who the hell plays false 9. Stupid discussion
@nathan_connor3132
@nathan_connor3132 6 жыл бұрын
WnD Leo Messi at Barcelona before Suarez,Dries Mertens at Napoli,Dele Alli
@tomwilson5108
@tomwilson5108 6 жыл бұрын
jon larkulaklans you said lukaku is better than Firmino. Clear off
@01tonyde
@01tonyde 6 жыл бұрын
arsenal legend!!! we miss a guy like Gilberto Silva
@AkashMaharjanyuwa
@AkashMaharjanyuwa 6 жыл бұрын
Gilberto seems really nice guy, the way he talks. I'm a big Brazil fan. Hope they have a good world cup as last world cup was a disaster.
@devanshsanghavi
@devanshsanghavi 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is the second best in his position. Messi is first. On paper both of them are strikers but they're actually false 9s
@Catmagic123
@Catmagic123 6 жыл бұрын
they're nowhere near the same position, completely different. Probbably a good idea to watch Firmino play before commenting.
@devanshsanghavi
@devanshsanghavi 6 жыл бұрын
Catmagic123 lol watch firmino?? I watch both teams week in week out. You should start watching football.
@pazthepole2814
@pazthepole2814 6 жыл бұрын
Devansh Sanghavi Messi Plays ‘RW’ So he plays More of a false 7 as apprised to a 9
@devanshsanghavi
@devanshsanghavi 6 жыл бұрын
russian hitman no bro. Messi plays as a CF. I watch every Barcelona match. Barca use the 4-4-2 formation with Messi and Suarez up top. Either Iniesta or Coutinho as the LM. Dembele or Paulinho as the RM and a double pivot of Busquets and Rakitic holding and the defence as it is.
@genaian
@genaian 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is not false 9. What Messi plays and what Firmino plays cant even be compared. Messi just jogs around lightly and waits to go forward, more of a free role with no responsibilities whatsoever, and Firmino works his ass off and plays better defense than plenty of midfielders and goes wide sometimes and drops deep to get the ball and plays target man and holds the ball until mane/salah get there to feed them the ball and sometimes he is main forward in front of goal to tap in crosses and such. If anything he is complete foward + false 9 + defensive forward + inner forward and whatever more... I dont think there is one player like him in the world, Messi for sure is not one.
@hakim6158
@hakim6158 6 жыл бұрын
As a false 9 it's between him and griezmann to be honest
@HarryMetzger
@HarryMetzger 3 жыл бұрын
Gilberto Silva is such a sweet softly spoken fella
@kyranfoster1500
@kyranfoster1500 6 жыл бұрын
Yes definitely, what a player👌🏻⚽️🔴
@TheWolfXCIX
@TheWolfXCIX 6 жыл бұрын
Messi is better but doesn't play there often any more. Kane also plays a similar-ish role but isn't quite the same, Bobby is world class and perfect for how Liverpool play
@cfx9815
@cfx9815 6 жыл бұрын
TheWolfXCIX kane plays upfront and is a goal scorer😂😂😂😂 completely two kind of players hahahhahahaha
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 6 жыл бұрын
Messi does it better
@Victor-eg8yk
@Victor-eg8yk 6 жыл бұрын
Firminho is not world class............
@RM-gr1mc
@RM-gr1mc 6 жыл бұрын
Victor at what he does, yes he is. You need to know football to understand. Maybe you think world class ONLY means skill and talent. But players like firmino are an exception. Hes truly a complete attacking player PLUS he drops deep and defends, creates opportunities. He does alot, more than any other forward in the world in my opinion. Of course, this does not mean hes the best forward. In fact, I wouldnt put him in top 5. But top 10 surely.
@Victor-eg8yk
@Victor-eg8yk 6 жыл бұрын
... he clearly said Bobby is world class.. DOnt start giving me these explanations. Firminho may be world class at a certain skill, that doesn't make him a world class player, because he is not world class at most other attributes of a striker. Top 5? 1. Lewandowski 2. Suarez 3. Kane/Aguero 5. Aubameyang 6.. Insigne 7..Higuain 8.Griezman 9.Lacazette 10. Lukaku .Martenz . Dyabala . Diego Costa . Firminho .Morata There is Firminho, a long way away from top 10 Not a world class player, never has been
@in4mus85
@in4mus85 6 жыл бұрын
No it's suarez
@MilleusPetrozza
@MilleusPetrozza 6 жыл бұрын
Ian Wright got it spot on.. Roberto Firmino is the best 9 and a half out there. He redefines the number 9 position in such a way, its hard to describe it better than how Ian Wright described it.
@dBOTHERER
@dBOTHERER 6 жыл бұрын
he has had a very good saeason, as a pure striker he is way behind a lot of players, as a deep forward, he would be behind griezmann, dybala and muller.
@k-sosa6597
@k-sosa6597 6 жыл бұрын
No. Muller or Dybala
@scottishenlightenedguyesca7801
@scottishenlightenedguyesca7801 6 жыл бұрын
A1 Gunnerz dybalas 2 goals against barce in that champions league match sheer talent shame boys got that cheating bad side often found in italian sides now in his dna
@evannmorgan5715
@evannmorgan5715 6 жыл бұрын
yeah
@pipp33momo
@pipp33momo 6 жыл бұрын
Man .. deeply from the heart of an arsenal fan I miss gelberto days
@dp5974
@dp5974 4 жыл бұрын
A world class player. Would have him in my team any day.
@maxbell9913
@maxbell9913 6 жыл бұрын
Yes he's an absolutely joke, best centre forward in PL bar Kane
@Max-rk2bp
@Max-rk2bp 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford aubameyang....
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Max Bell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@ProGamer___
@ProGamer___ 6 жыл бұрын
For a false 9 i would say muller is better
@judasiscariot2648
@judasiscariot2648 6 жыл бұрын
Pro Gamer stop playing fifa and watch some real football.
@chugnorris2223
@chugnorris2223 6 жыл бұрын
bobby is the linchpin in liverpools front 3. Unselfish , left foot, right foot, can hold the ball, has great vision, amazing first touch, quality finisher and on top of that puts in a shift above all other number 9's every game. Jurgen can pick a bargain and bobby is priceless. Apparently firmino started as a defender and worked his way to attack which makes sense when u watch him. Special player YNWA
@hercjulio4138
@hercjulio4138 4 жыл бұрын
Firmino the best stiker in the world ⚽
@itaintobeezy
@itaintobeezy 6 жыл бұрын
Isn't firmino a false 9?
@khalebabraha2603
@khalebabraha2603 6 жыл бұрын
Yes he is.. Look on nouman's youtube channel. Nouman perfectly describes his abilities
@rifaldopalaska7737
@rifaldopalaska7737 6 жыл бұрын
does false 9 has a job to press?
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 6 жыл бұрын
It ain't Obeezy yea he is its just fake intelligent ppl trying to over complicate things when really the one standout trait he has over the others that played that role before is his stamina
@rifaldopalaska7737
@rifaldopalaska7737 6 жыл бұрын
Tajay Gordon yes I agree. Because of his stamina he can press deeper. So in that sense, he is somehow unique compared to the others
@AIIXIII0
@AIIXIII0 6 жыл бұрын
Nope. 9 and a half. Firmino doesn't have playmaking responsibilities. False 9 is No.10 is striker position. 9 and a half is striker with more added responsibilities. False 9 doesn't have defensive responsibilities but they have playmaking responsibilities more than others. Firmino does not. His job is to make spaces for Mane and Salah. Press the front and attract defenders plus scoring. So not false 9. 9 and half is a perfect word for that role. Firmino will be getting his own new role. False 9 doesn't actually 100% emulate his role. More of a mixture of defensive forward and complete forward.
@DubzifiedChris
@DubzifiedChris 6 жыл бұрын
and Bobby Firminooooooo but we sold Coutinhooooooo
@rhysdq8077
@rhysdq8077 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is a box to box striker, who contributes to the defensive play and is absolutely quality at creating chances and finishing in the attacking third and his the best in the world at doing it. Cant be compared to any other striker in world football let alone the premier league
@tebogomampa6077
@tebogomampa6077 6 жыл бұрын
Gabriel Jeusus is 21 years old and Brazil's top goal scorer in the qualifier
@michael43567
@michael43567 6 жыл бұрын
I don't even like the term false 9 cause it's not a position. On paper Firmino is a striker but he's called a false 9. So I guess you could say Valencia is a right back on paper but he's actually a wing back. See what I mean? I think not saying the actual position someone plays overcomplicates things.
@MrSuperbeaner23
@MrSuperbeaner23 6 жыл бұрын
Michael not accurate at all
@buburobinson1733
@buburobinson1733 6 жыл бұрын
Michael well when you play false 9 you have to drop back and link up with the midfield more and makes goals for others, a number 9 hardly makes goals for others and mostly stay in the box . well for RB compared to RWB the have the same job but the RWB plays either higher up the field or wider
@cweston9440
@cweston9440 6 жыл бұрын
Comparing players can be silly anyway coz they're all different, phrases like false 9 stop players like firmino being linked with say lukaku because they are worlds apart in terms of style you can't compare them
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 6 жыл бұрын
False 9 is called centre foward or a amf
@mattwilcks5156
@mattwilcks5156 6 жыл бұрын
FBI No a false 9 is a strike who drops deeper than a usual Center forward to create space in behind for his wingers.
@michael43567
@michael43567 6 жыл бұрын
So they're basically asking if he's the best striker in the world? No. He's had a great season. Guys like Lewandowski, Suarez, Kane have been great the past 3 seasons
@thew5262
@thew5262 6 жыл бұрын
Michael false 9 not striker
@goldenthang
@goldenthang 6 жыл бұрын
Ejit
@AquaTeenHungerFork
@AquaTeenHungerFork 6 жыл бұрын
Hes not a out and out striker like them. His natural position was at CAM hes still basically like that but as well has the burden of being a 9 bringing others into play. I know for a fact he’s the hardest working forwards in Europes top 5 leagues.
@BrandonGiordano
@BrandonGiordano 6 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he's not a target 9 like Suarez though. He plays a false 9 roll and primarily presses the line and looks for link ups with Salah and Sane who act as forwards. In reference to the False 9 roll I don't think there's anyone better in the world
@michael43567
@michael43567 6 жыл бұрын
Melvs Won then Muller & Messi are 2 better. I don't even like the term false 9 cause it's not a position. On paper Firmino is a striker but he's called a false 9. So I guess you could say Valencia is a right back on paper but he's actually a wing back. See what I mean? I think not saying the actual position someone plays overcomplicates things.
@yellowscarlightningscream8347
@yellowscarlightningscream8347 6 жыл бұрын
Gilberto Silva seems like a very humble guy ....he was not like that when he was younger
@NinjaSheepXGaming
@NinjaSheepXGaming 6 жыл бұрын
Dear sky sports, please create a headline that matches most of the video, not 30 seconds. Thank you!!
@nickagger534
@nickagger534 6 жыл бұрын
He's basically the same as Benzema.
@Kloppsserialbottlers
@Kloppsserialbottlers 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is a false 9 right? Messi plays a false 9. So we'll just leave the debate there I think.
@R0bski
@R0bski 6 жыл бұрын
Messi plays behind Suarez and therefore cant be a false 9.
@wp3158
@wp3158 6 жыл бұрын
R0bski no he doesn't he plays on the right side of Suarez but not a rw
@kmfmm
@kmfmm 6 жыл бұрын
Messi doesn't play any position, he has a completely free role
@hanklesacks
@hanklesacks 6 жыл бұрын
William Price as long as a team already plays with a striker u can’t have another player playing as a false nine leave it there
@thelastlegbender7903
@thelastlegbender7903 6 жыл бұрын
Messi used to play as a false 9, not anymore.
@caesarfranc
@caesarfranc 6 жыл бұрын
Roberto Firmino is not a false 9 but the first Liverpool defender. Look at how he defended very well against Walker yesterday and went on to finish clinically.
@franciscoribeiro6223
@franciscoribeiro6223 6 жыл бұрын
Gilberto, classy guy.
@black_shadowz1484
@black_shadowz1484 6 жыл бұрын
No way
@jacksondaniels9397
@jacksondaniels9397 6 жыл бұрын
Abbas Muzaffar you probably even don't know what his role is
@SlyCarey
@SlyCarey 6 жыл бұрын
Gospodin Covek False 9. Prefer messi tbh
@jacksondaniels9397
@jacksondaniels9397 6 жыл бұрын
Sly Carey Messi is not false 9😂
@SlyCarey
@SlyCarey 6 жыл бұрын
Gospodin Covek What is he then?
@SlyCarey
@SlyCarey 6 жыл бұрын
PunkNiggaGuy Watched him against us. Played as a false 9 dropped deep. Just because it isnt his position on fifa doesnt mean he doesnt play there
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is the best false 9 in the world.
@rumham4766
@rumham4766 6 жыл бұрын
sam king messi sometimes plays there
@michael43567
@michael43567 6 жыл бұрын
sam king Muller?
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
Michael Firmino is better imo
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
Pesnat M8 But He is mainly a winger so I don’t count him in that role
@greatomeister675
@greatomeister675 6 жыл бұрын
Messi is better
@tribalpeacock
@tribalpeacock Жыл бұрын
Si Senor🎉🎉🎉 We shall miss our Bobby Dazzler at LFC❤ Legend of legends
@coolxjl
@coolxjl 4 жыл бұрын
Firmino is absolute genius on the pitch. You'll never see a player who is alway in the right place at the right time, doing the right things all the time! If you want a master class in attacking play just watch Firmino, he's the best out of liverpool attacking 3 and It's every attacking players' dream to play along side him.
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino WAS underrated but people have jumped on the bandwagon so much he's now overrated
@apetown9503
@apetown9503 6 жыл бұрын
As a Liverpool fan I have to agree, he's amazing but he's not a better goal scorer than aguero, Kane Lukaku etc. He's just more well rounded.
@Trigga_47
@Trigga_47 6 жыл бұрын
James Waters exactly and that's the same thing that happened with Kante.
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Ronaldo Owino Exactly, good player - yes. World class player - no. Kante maybe in his Leicester season and some of his first Chelsea season was world class but this season he's been nothing special
@simonjrgensen6761
@simonjrgensen6761 6 жыл бұрын
Kante is a world class DM but not a world class box to box which Conte has tried to turn him into. Maybe because he couldn't get Vidal and Bakayoko turned out to be shocking.
@jamesharrywaters
@jamesharrywaters 6 жыл бұрын
Simon Jørgensen Yeah I can admit he probably is world class but he's still become overrated imo, for example I don't think he's close to Busquets yet a lot of people seem adamant that Kante is better than Busquets
@goodebening6564
@goodebening6564 6 жыл бұрын
laughable question. although he is twice as good as jesus
@goodebening6564
@goodebening6564 6 жыл бұрын
José Aldo Júnior P4P#1 so he isnt betteryhan Jesus? Will see tomorrow
@mefninja
@mefninja 6 жыл бұрын
Thierry Henry the legend i agree but only due to age and experience ..
@goodebening6564
@goodebening6564 6 жыл бұрын
Topbins he has other things in his locker than jesus has.
@Jay-wm2im
@Jay-wm2im 6 жыл бұрын
Thierry Henry the legend why is Jesus 1st team for Brazil then?? 🤔
@matthew-ox5zx
@matthew-ox5zx 6 жыл бұрын
Even though he doesn't start for brazil. Jesus has a way higher ceiling
@clarke7764
@clarke7764 6 жыл бұрын
Underrated
@jimbrown5583
@jimbrown5583 6 жыл бұрын
The Italians would call him a Trequartista. A striker that drops to play in between the lines of midfield and attack, someone who can spearhead an attack but also play as a playmaker. I suppose that is what a false 9 is but Trequartista is more specialised. Basically the Totti role, which Firmino does incredibly well.
@KA-on1pe
@KA-on1pe 6 жыл бұрын
Suarez plays that roll??? He 10x better than firminho?
@R0bski
@R0bski 6 жыл бұрын
Understand the difference between false 9 and striker
@BlueCityzen9320
@BlueCityzen9320 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino played 0 minutes over Jesus on international duty 😉
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
Blue Cityzen good, he will be fresher against you in the UCL
@xb5741
@xb5741 6 жыл бұрын
jesus suits brazils style more, thats all it is
@BlueCityzen9320
@BlueCityzen9320 6 жыл бұрын
sam king He can be fresh all he wants. We will knock you out anyway.
@franklynakinpelu7966
@franklynakinpelu7966 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford and yet we still beat you last time
@franklynakinpelu7966
@franklynakinpelu7966 6 жыл бұрын
Luke Dunford u sound like an idiot, u have 9 better players compared to 2, so why u giving excuses. YOU LOST. Learn football, not all about names on the team sheet smh
@Manuel-sx6dx
@Manuel-sx6dx 6 жыл бұрын
Firmino build up play is amazing and finishing has improved but sometimes his finishing is awful at times
@GOSH1406
@GOSH1406 6 жыл бұрын
I'm brazilian and know both players gaming, let's compare: - Gabriel Jesus = Damn lethal inside the area, great speed and pace, great finisher and scorer. - Firmino = Gamemaker, Lethal on both sides of the area, can shoot, can dribble, can assist, great header. - NOW: With NEYMAR, COUTINHO and WILLIAM playing together, what player do Brazil needs? (All three: gamemakers: dribbling, shooting, passing and being lethal OUTSIDE the area, connective players together.) - What Player Brazil needs to be complete on attacking moves? A: Gabriel Jesus.
@Adox28
@Adox28 6 жыл бұрын
When it comes to PL strikers 1 Kane 2 Aguero 3 Lukaku 4 Firmino
@clarky8813
@clarky8813 6 жыл бұрын
jon larkulaklans lukaku.😂😂
@MrBounce66
@MrBounce66 6 жыл бұрын
jon larkulaklans rofl lukaku
@samking6948
@samking6948 6 жыл бұрын
jon larkulaklans No Chance. 1 Kane, 2 Firmino, 3 Aguero, 4 Lukaku
@Adox28
@Adox28 6 жыл бұрын
Lukaku is better than Firmino
@clarky8813
@clarky8813 6 жыл бұрын
jon larkulaklans at nothing
@bobbin621
@bobbin621 6 жыл бұрын
Son is better than firmino
@abdiomar3765
@abdiomar3765 6 жыл бұрын
matthew mulvaney C’mon Son? You serious? Son has been good this season but states talk for its self firmino has been outstanding.
@ZachJJames-hc1cf
@ZachJJames-hc1cf 6 жыл бұрын
matthew mulvaney son is predominantly a winger
@justcookie8536
@justcookie8536 6 жыл бұрын
😂😂😂😂😂 what u smoking son?
@rohanmccalla979
@rohanmccalla979 6 жыл бұрын
matthew mulvaney Son is too selfish
@davidfisher6356
@davidfisher6356 6 жыл бұрын
Behave urself
6 жыл бұрын
Firmino is underrated, over shadowed by the well deserved attention Salah is getting.
@suhelsheth4621
@suhelsheth4621 4 жыл бұрын
Listen to what Write say "He's the best 9 and a half" he says that because he knows what his playing style is and his commitment is 100% right because his roll is between 9 and 10
@dr.sarikulalam49
@dr.sarikulalam49 5 жыл бұрын
Firmino ..is not Lukaku or ibra type striker but he is a asset he is who can score goal ..can assist can tackle ....a complete teamman ..... every coach would love to has player like him
@flames9027
@flames9027 6 жыл бұрын
Gilberto looks so young and healthy
@promocodes5962
@promocodes5962 6 жыл бұрын
He's very good in faking ST position and I think no one does it better in the world of football right now.
@Mohan5Nahom
@Mohan5Nahom 6 жыл бұрын
I agree don't @ me. I think he plays the #9 role perfectly can pass, shoot, dribble, defend and play in the midfield as well if he wants. In just solid striking/finishing Lewandowki and Suarez are better.
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