Is the 2013 Mitsubishi Pajero a better bargain against the Prado?

The 2013 Mitsubishi Pajero (Diesel) is Ksh.2,000,000 cheaper compared to the 2013 Toyota Prado KDJ150 ( Diesel)..but is the bargain worth it?

[@separaterelaxmopoto2547]

Pajero always wins. There's a reason Pajero owners never want to let go of them.

[@josephmuia6178]

your reviews are super and its doing a 5 min review is injustice to us. Your reviews are just on point. Kindly review honda step wagon and to toyota voxy in detail and the dimensions like ground clearance, boot space and which is bigger on the 3rd row

[@Lukania-ke]

Roadwise, the pajero is peak, itz 3200cc meaning more cc than the j150, its diesel turbo works quite well and the models between 2010 and 2013 have no impeccable issues, if well maintained then the car shouldn't be a bother. Uphill, a pajero is more powerful than the prado and dont forget prados have a loose chasis. Like with the pajero, you can maneuver corners at 100km+ with no fear but with a prado its the opposite, that car swings alot. I mean with the tx, you get it for 5 million and get 2700cc, where a lexus rx 270 of even 350 can do you justice. Like the models of prado below 3000cc are all weak and don't have the torque, and you can confirm this by having a drag race with a pajero. The 3000cc 1kd prado is better because the seats ate comfortable but stability it isnt the best, so to me the pajero is a big bargain

[@destroyerarmor2846]

Cc isn't really a factor. Diesel engines can be tuned to make more power

[@Lukania-ke]

@@destroyerarmor2846 even tuned, the did in the pajero does more

[@TimothyNyota]

impeccable issues?

[@Lukania-ke]

@@TimothyNyota not many

[@Maggie_wanjohi24]

I agree, I’ve owned the pajero for the past 2years and I have had 0 issue with the engine 👌🏽

[@newdawn5657]

the 4m41 engine is great. the only pain is replacing a faulty diesel pump fails..it is very costly. Other engine stuff are pretty normal and durable just like the J150. remember the pajero is 12 time Dakar rally winner of course due to its reliability and capability.

[@DC_888]

You’re thinking the Gen 3s, which can be very costly. Gen 4 like this one is much more reasonable to replace the pump.

[@plenex]

Toyota is NOT durable. 3.0 D4D has problems with cracking pistons ! I had old 4.2td and i was thinking about new J120 or J150.. but i discovered it has problems with pistons, and sometimes with injectors too. The only option for me is Pajero.

[@esco1995]

@@plenex what about the diesel version

[@plenex]

@@esco1995 toyota 1kd-ftv 3.0 d4d is diesel version. Euro3 is ok, Euro4 with more power has weaker pistons..

[@teddymazuri]

the dakar variants are tuned differently, you won't get that in normal pajeros. Petrol variants are better, they last longer.

[@johninya8401]

Very good Kenyan car reviewer. Kudos, Good job

[@financialfitnessofficial]

I really like your reviews; very insightful, relevant and concise ! Great job Wokabi !

[@locorae5291]

I've owned both actually n I would choose the Pajero anyday since the only advantage that the parado has is reliability while they aren't far off wen it comes to fuel economy but the Pajero wins in everything else

[@slicusdadon]

I wouldn't say the Prado engine is more reliable than the Pajero. The 3.2 DiD is pretty much bullet proof and I couldn't say that in confidence about the D4D engine on the Prado which smashes injectors and pistons shattering the motor. Only the V6 petrol Prado is bullet proof. I feel like Toyota is riding on to their name and reputation now as pretty much every other manufacturer has caught up with reliability. I would trust the Kia Sorento more than the new diesel engines from Toyota with constant DPF issues.

[@Gods_Child001]

I drive a mitsubishi and as long you use genuine service kits from mitsubishi no other Japanese car can beat mitsubishi in terms of reliability

[@rickyp4008]

This is the comment I was looking for, thanks. How is the a.c. in the pajero? I had a 2015 triton from new and the a.c. was very weak. I traded it in for a family minivan (2010 model due to covid) but am now looking for a 2016 pajero (not the sports model) as the kids have grown.

[@HLMM_KE]

Actually, when I look at the used car market, the Toyotas are a bit of a rip-off. Toyotas are bland and expensive. You will probably not own a vehicle for more than 10 years ....you can but rarely. The Pajero actually gives you value for every coin.

[@TimothyNyota]

mmh naah

[@simonnzioki5679]

You can't compare it with a land rover or BMW SUV those two depreciate more faster because of reliability issues especially when their warranty is over

[@faraijoffreymutepfa873]

True, i don't dispute the Toyota reputation. I once bought a Mitsubishi L200, and at the same market there was also a Toyota Hilux of the same year, mileage and spec. The price was double. For that L200 twincab price range there were older Hilux's, no leather seats, no air con, no tinted glasses etc. So it comes down to choice and use. I needed transportation as i was visiting Africa every 4 months at that time. And that meant travelling distances. Not forgetting i grew up in rural mountainous Zimbabwe- Eastern Highlands, and the majority of our cars were mazda B1600(not even 4WD) and Nissan PG720.

[@Maggie_wanjohi24]

Proud to be a pajero Exceed owner💪🏾 very good cars

[@newdawn5657]

great review. kindly do more reviews on other cars. great work bro.

[@kanyeboni]

Great review sir!! I have driven this pajero from Kampala to Juja, this machine is a beast Eric. Prado is overrated and this Pajero is grossly underrated. It peaks very fast and fuel consumption is quite okay. Put full tank in Busia and reached Nairobi when its half. One of the best SUVs in the business.

[@jamesmuriuki3785]

Nice reviews. Could you review the Nissan X-trail 2013?

[@autochief]

great work.I was selling a Mitsubishi Pajero sometime this year, and that was the comparative analysis I made to the prospective buyer especially since the Pajero was more powerful but a little cheaper.#AutoChief

[@TechInADay]

The Pajero is a better deal on paper. Great video but if we are to compare like to like, it would be great to have both units on the same video.

[@erickwokabi1601]

Thank you for your feedback.. We are going to have an action packed head to head review with that

[@iantosopondo5429]

I drove manual one,turbo petrol,my guy fell in love with it...

[@anthonynjoroge8899]

Very informative and straight to the point.

[@mbaga82]

Mungu akubariki sana broo kazi nzuri ya kutupa elimu hii adimu

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thanks for the support

[@FarmergirlJess]

Thanks

[@jamesnjenga9773]

Point of correction the 3.2 DiD has 440NM. Not 140.

[@MC_TONJE]

I was also wondering about this information

[@wickybrian8128]

He's miss lead car buyers

[@chonegaboy]

I also almost fell off my chair when I heard that.

[@topnineshow]

Nimeshangaa pia. 140 ni ka dudu.

[@joshuaanagbonu5632]

I own a pajero but I'll go for the Prado any day, for your information, the land cruiser has been in production for 70years

[@GeorgeHayabusa23]

You have the king of desert and you are going to swapped for land cruiser cuz has been production for 70 years……. What is that excuse my friend. 😂😂😂

[@arthurkinuthia3779]

very informative. have you considered doing a review of double cabin trucks in Kenya?

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Yes I have, its actually in the pipeline

[@brent1835]

Love this brother and your enthusiasm :)

[@VictorMumo]

I'll definitely go with the Pajero!

[@hopeforlifetv]

i would also go for the pajero

[@Tedkelvin]

Once Again no idea....What you are reviewing. Failed to mention the monocoque vs body on frame. Independent rear suspension vs solid rear Axle. Build Quality. Wheel sizes. Running costs.

[@Hercules_tootoo]

There's no way a Pajero can beat a Prado in reliability and off road capabilities. There's a reason why you still see very old Prados still ruling the roads and off-roads in Africa.

[@njorogevince6259]

We also have old Pajeros ruling the road as well.

[@lopantolulu]

I daily drive a 1986 pajero LWB 4D56 turbo. A sweet car to drive

[@robertangila2606]

The best review ever,

[@teddymazuri]

The Pajero is more stable and handles better on higher speeds and power delivery is awesome for the petrol variants. The Independent suspension and the locking center on these further solidify that argument but personally, for hardcore offroad purposes, I don't prefer independent suspension. Solid axles rule in that area.

[@yutuniopati]

Did you tried the 3.8l V6 ?

[@michaelwainaina_9628]

I would go for the pajero anyway. It’s more powerful especially the 4m41 engine is a massive improvement when it comes to reliability and performance and no cases of blowing up gaskets like the previous generations that were powered with 4g56 engines. Plus it has a good reputation off-road especially in Paris Dakar rally🔥

[@cedocedd8108]

I’d go with pajero Good car it’s just people don’t know

[@iandiru6433]

Weeell we are used to Landcruiser

[@timothyshammah1468]

Thanks for the video, what's now remaining is the pajero

[@mrenomc]

🤔

[@olgamadegwa3898]

Please do a review on Honda CRV and Toyota Auris

[@denniskeronye4724]

You have helped me understand the pajero shogun well than i knew, kindly do me a favor by telling us something about Subaru OutBack and Subaru Forester

[@daniel.k375]

psychology is what drives price, the prado has been pampered and extremely exaggerated in this country, every politician has one, but when it comes to real shiet i just take the pajero and i give it 2-3% per year of initial amount for maintainance thats like 175k a year, and this is because i am a math guy, buy a low mileage one at a higher price and that can go as low as 70 k a year

[@destroyerarmor2846]

Prado inaweza ibiwa any time 😃

[@researchsavvy5425]

It will be great if you can delve into German cars too. Pros and cons of specific engines

[@ewm4266]

Please review Mobius 3 series too

[@martinarthur8928]

The Pajero beats the Prado in many aspects, however mistibishi failed in marketing its products and thought the Darka rally and WRC pedigrees would actually work for it, which didn't work out...... Otherwise i would go with a pajero, its 4WD super select system is by far better than what the Prado presents, space, engine wise name it (oh and the 2000-2005 model was the first in many aspects, unibody system, extension on the body near the rear tyres, something that the prado just adopted in 2006)..... if only they could have marketed it well like the Toyota Prado and VX did with the UN guys, then we would be seeing this iconic SUV in the far future, sad that it will no longer be produced......

[@terrancepiercy4188]

Very true sir.👌

[@emmanuelkipruto1834]

Review more of average vehicles eg premio vs sylphy/fuga

[@nixlekorere9118]

I see Pajeros that are 30 yrs old and I have a 26 yr old one. These things don't just die...

[@fahdssekanyo5480]

Both are impeccable vehicles in their class but the prados reliability is unbeaten......nice review sir

[@erickwokabi1601]

Thank you sir

[@bhanukasachith9754]

Pajero is more reliable than prado

[@rtyhgfplmkoi4784]

@@bhanukasachith9754 true

[@bhanukasachith9754]

@@rtyhgfplmkoi4784 yup

[@djyems1021]

@@bhanukasachith9754 That's right!!

[@Nick210]

Always wanted to try a Pajero but it lacks some features that are a must for me. A car like this not having dual climate zones or push to start is absurd. Will stick to Prados

[@innocentmosweta6818]

Quite a good bargain, but what about reliability and depreciation?

[@ngunjiz]

Kindly do something on Toyota Aqua Hybrid....looks exciting too.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Will definitely keep that in the pipeline

[@phiwanhlengethwa3874]

141 NM sounds grossly unrealistic, especially for a turbo diesel. You get 150 NM from a 2L n/a petrol, you know.

[@officialcharleskariuki]

Correct! 441Nm at the crank and even as WTW it should be close to 375Nm

[@simonkuria2003]

How is the consumption of the pajero 4m41 as compared to that of Prado?

[@mart0wainaina64]

LOVE THE REVIEWS but they could be longer and deeper. 10-15 minutes

[@pikiaogq]

Is this pajero a euro 4 or euro 5 compliant?

[@kiptoocaleb4584]

Good one. I like VW Amarok doublecap, I would be very excited to have it's review of the manual version comparing it with likes of DMAX ...

[@victorgathii103]

Interesting show. It's my first time here and will make a point to follow. I think the torque figure were short of the actual output. The other thing is I would not recommend anyone to buy either of the two vehicles with a diesel engine. Reason being is that they won't lasy long without giving you guys headache. The quality of diesel fuel in the local market does not suit the engines and will definitely destroy the fuel system within a short time of owning it. Its not that the cars are wrong, there's just poor quality of fuel in the market. Secondly thesd are workhorses to be used to their full potential hence why they are owned by contractors and farmers the most. People who cover high mileages on a weekly basis and have to go through rough terrain. So if you're going to buy such cars for school run and shopping, they will definitely give you problems. Just buy a V6 petrol instead. If not, be ready to thrush it on the highway every fortnight to clear the engine. If you are running it on genuine diesel fuel not diluted ones.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Thank you for the support

[@dipsy405]

You can decat the engine.

[@victorgathii103]

@@dipsy405 I would not recommend it. Its like saying the engineers at these companies were not smart enough. I would never buy a vehicle that has been remapped. Just a personal opinion cause if things go wrong your chances of reverting the changes might be very costly and at times impossible. Just a personal opinion. The diesel fuel system is manufactured by outside contractors not the vehicle manufacturer. Bosch, continental, delphi... Are all outsiders that offer these service. They design the whole fuel system and test them to meet the required legal limits accepted for road use. I don't know whether the after market remap industry can compare in terms of capability and capacity. Best advise is buy what suits your needs and pocket. If you want a fast car buy a fast car. If you want to go off roading get a 4wd car and if you want fuel efficiency get a small car...

[@victorkiprotich.8390]

can we have another long and more detailed discussion about this car please?

[@jamesmichuki5804]

Does it have sunroof?

[@douglasnjuguna3318]

Hi like what you guys do. Mine is a different question I have a Nissan Terrano 2.7TD and l haven’t found anyone who can actually fix it properly. If possible could you do a review on it.

[@douglasnjuguna3318]

And maybe genuine areas to import cars from

[@nathangaitho492]

I'm a Nissan specialist,I can fix the car for you

[@tommylove7]

If you didn't get one, I can refer you to a Japan trained Nissan specialist, he has his own workshop and interestingly Nissan Kenya consults him.

[@brianoguk7788]

Very detailed content crammed in a short time span. Kudos.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Glad you liked it!

[@okiriamupeteremomeri1926]

accurate analysis

[@kungumify]

141NM of torque? Get your facts straight buddy.

[@paschalnghingo1985.]

441nm

[@fanwande0014]

@Carnversations raw can C200 engine be used in E250 car

[@felixkimani7404]

I like the double screens especially the excellence model

[@teddymazuri]

Do you mean the exceed model?

[@felixkimani7404]

@@teddymazuri yeah the excellence one is for volvo xc90 i confused

[@jacobmoses3712]

Check out Andrew St Pierre White's review of the Pajero. The middle of the back seat has no padding so it makes the rear seat only good for 2 people. He had issues with poor angle of departure and hung the back end of the vehicle up

[@augustinekahata318]

Andrew reviewed the 2010 version which has an overhang rear...But the upgraded version cured most of Andrew's concerns

[@MusiliSquared]

When are you doing a documentary for Mercedez Benz Cars?

[@cpaeliabkoskei7785]

Nice Piece

[@prosamventures4178]

Review Harrier 2014 model vs Vanguard 2014 model

[@oimboyana6194]

My dad has a 1999 model pajero but that car Is a beast

[@officialcharleskariuki]

441Nm of torque at the crank. 141Nm as wtq even when accounting for 15% drive train loss the figure should be close to 375Nm.

[@fahdssekanyo5480]

Sir can you tell me about Nissan xtrail 2012 model ....does it have issues more so with the cvt gearbox

[@dontbother6949]

All Nissans have cvt issues. If you want a CVT transmission, buy Honda. Check USA class suits against Nissan, you will be surprised how bad Nissan is.

[@dicksonondego5172]

Please save your money for other model like toyota and do review,them ,Nissan have issues with overheating problems and weak suspension parts

[@desertstormer7556]

Land rover discovery 3 and 4 beats both the landcruiser, pajero and patrol in everything but reliablity. Interior quality though is a class above.

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

Good insights, Thank you for the support

[@linetmugambi4568]

I’d love to see a review on the discovery 3 and 4. Which one is better?

[@simonnzioki5679]

If you don't have enough money for a new SUV Avoid buying a second hand land rover product that has a high mileage cause those vehicles become very expensive when not taken care of unlike it's alternatives

[@DoubleT847]

Wachana na discovery kabisa, ni machozi tupu

[@doncorleon9]

I like it's stance better than the j150. Has a better sculptured look. Better design ergonomics.

[@andrewsmith9980]

I am surprised that the 4m41 is not really for you guys. In the USA it's a good engine. Do you guess have high emissions standard? Our diesels in the USA had many issues with the diesels from 2008-2013. We don't get the diesel Prado or the Mitsubishi. Is the Nissan patrol a considered a good option?

[@henchalpha]

1. The patrol is considered a good vehicle. I think what has affected it is that Nissan as a brand had some bad reliability years and it wrongly reflects on the patrol. 2. We virtually don't have emissions standards here rather they are not enforced.

[@charlesmwaniki2572]

When i hear any Mitsubishi name mention i gets goosebumps , very comfortable, good on snow, but how can a car one day decides it's not gonna go anywhere a n d that's it.that was my Montero. Never again.ata kwa ndawa

[@brutushita1]

next time you do reviews, give actual numbers, for example, dont say the ground clearance is "eeeeh not bad" compared to prado, give actual figures, like 50cms compared to 45cms in the prado, same applies to departure angles...dont say "very good for off road" give actual angles. Good start, you can do better. B- (B minus) overall

[@marymburu8097]

Review toyota wish please

[@terrancepiercy4188]

If you get an older pajero 2003-2006 you will get a better more reliable one. Generally cars in Kenya though are a complete rip off with prices. 😕

[@elton16]

Talk about Honda CRV 2012 ,2013&2014 model.

[@edwardsimon2274]

Pajero any time. but Kenya being a "Toyota minded" country, the issue of resale comes in. depending on one's buy, maintain well and keep it.

[@manunguks3923]

toyota is way overated, other makes give more comfort options with competitive prices.

[@klausmaish9755]

Tell us about nissan gtr

[@wayando]

Lakini Toyota ni Toyota ... Plus 1KD has a very good reputation.

[@monto5606]

I own both, still the pajero V98 diesel is more reliable and stable. Whenever I want to go to the village, I use my Paj. Never disappoints. I keep the Prado for business meetings where status is required. Only that, everything else, Pajero is better.

[@lionden406]

we want the 2020 model forget 2013 the world is moving forward not backwards

[@manunguks3923]

it would be nice to drive it for a full feel review..awesome👍

[@joshuaambani5688]

Does it have a differential locker?

[@Lukania-ke]

Yeah

[@owenharm1524]

Pajero are unreal. The 4m41 engine is a very reliable motor if looked after.

[@felixkimani7404]

It is and its cheap too bad shogun isnt being renewed

[@esco1995]

kindly do isuzu dmax vs toyota hilux

[@CARNVERSATIONS]

In the pipeline soon

[@davidkimani2888]

notice anyone rurbishing prado diesel has never owned one,the prado is joy to drive,pajero i would like to hear first hand expirience ex owners or current

[@oliverwabwire2836]

Both are Jurassic!

[@johnteechi7431]

Well Prado is a Toyota what's the need of buying a car that won't last . The land cruiser Prado will last forever giving you Also good four wheel drive experience....the Pajero also doesn't have a rear diff this reducing it's capability off-road but look at the Prado it's tiptop 👌👌👌👌

[@micossathemech3637]

The pajero has a rear diff,but traction wise and in Africa l will go for prado straight

[@amgaku]

Suggestion; Review more high end vehicles. Mercedes, Range Rover etc

[@LavazasBroadcast]

For sure. What makes Mercedes better than the other one.

[@augustinengumi7214]

I used to think pajero was a bad bargain until I experienced using it. Yes pajeros haven't had the best engines but I'd choose pajero anytime

[@tokyococo6996]

Which Pajero do you drive love?

[@johnjoel8204]

i seriously beg to differ, if you must buy a diesel suv, the ford everest is the best choice in our market, however id personally always choose a petrol suv because what you save on a diesel engine in regards to fuel, you more than pay for in service since diesel engines require service more frequently than petrol engines, my take on it all, unless you constantly do long distances and you tow alot, always go for a petrol if you must have an suv.

[@wayando]

In my experience, Diesels last longer without issues ... And they consume alot less fuel, even if you forget to turn off you car and leave it idling, the fuel barely moves. And Diesel with Turbo feel as quick as petrol.

[@johnjoel8204]

@@wayando i agree with you in regards to consumption, however with respect diesels are work engines and they have a life span, meaning at a certain point they are designed to reach the end of their circle and to be replaced, petrol engines last longer, are easier to work on and easier to maintain, they require much less service and are designed to last much longer, for example, have you ever seen any classic car that is a diesel? but you see many petrol ones still running. diesel engines have more parts that require to be worked on or replaced if not they can go bad, the egr valves, dpf filter, glow plugs, fuel filters, btw they are even more sensitive to fuel than petrol engine. all in all im talking from my own experience, iv owned both a petrol and diesel toyota vx 100 series and i got rid of the diesel due to those issues. my experience could be different from yours. anyway thanks for your point of view.

[@wayando]

@@johnjoel8204 ... Since Diesels are work engines how you mentioned, they would likely he designed to take much more strain. Now imagine using it for regular things. It would barely be feeling anything ... Plus when it comes time to resell it, business people would want it - and they are alot easier to sell to. Also, by design Diesels are built stronger because of the high compression during the burning of diesel fuel. Given similar treatment am betting that diesel outlasts petrol. Heavier metal, stronger engine components .... And they run at lower RPM.

[@ntimi2233]

I currently have the same body Pajero but with a petrol 3.8 V6 and trust me petrol is the way to go. The 4m41 is noisy and with our poor Diesel quality maintenance will be costly in the long run plus when the EGR clogs up more $$ while the petrol is soo quet and smooth and quick

[@johnjoel8204]

@@wayando consider high performance vehicles, they are designed to be driven hard, work under certain temps, that way you get the best performance out of that engine, the same applies to the diesel engines, they are designed to work under certain conditions, for example, the dpf only works under certain temps, if not it starts to clog because its not burning the exhaust efficiently, the same applies with other components. and like i said earlier, diesel engines are more sensitive to fuel quality, given our market we dont get the best and as for life span, they work up to a certain point then they need to be replaced, all in all im speaking from my own personal experience and i know my opinion may be different from other peoples opinion. anyways. thanks for the chat.

[@charlki007]

Prado is overrated. Lacks independent suspension on the rare wheels this explains it's instability. If you can't afford an L200 buy a Pajero

[@johnnyNgatia]

Look into the new Mobius too a copy of BAIC BJ40

[@travancorepistons7309]

Mitsubishi always

[@Kamau1_MJ]

140 NM of torque for the pajero?

[@manuelmikewa388]

Ikr? I think he meant KW, not NM.

[@ericmuthaurakoronya6663]

To me wokabi,toyota has highly been over rated, the biggest problem with this specific Prados' is stability and the high cost of maintainace,the price tag is way to expensive, which i don't see the value of it having that price tag.to me,i prefer a pajero,an oldee isuzu trooper big horn,a patrol or the 1993 range rover house SE which is my dream car to date.so for the toyota,it has never been even a dream car or wish to see it on my packing space.

[@eddieke7053]

The Pajero is a more quality built vehicle than the Prado, all around.

[@salimjamal6840]

Pajero Iko Fiti Mimi Nimeipenda sana Hii Gari Ni Pundaa 🤣🤣🤣

[@tedomondi2942]

mitsu outlander vs Xtrail

[@eddieke7053]

The Pajero is a better SUV hands down against the Prado. Reliability is relative for the two. Performance and Safety in Pajero outmatched the Prado. Prado beats it in popularity and Pajero is more value for money.

[@abdullubowa]

The pajero has 441Nm of torque not 141

[@fedinantodiwuor4116]

441nm of torque boss.

[@doncorleon9]

For 2m difference, I'd get the pajero and another car. I dont think the Prado is 2m 'better'. Suffer less depreciation and satiate Thatcher in the house as well.