Is the BMW M5 the best car ever? | Fifth Gear

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[@mannysingh6618]

11 years and no major issues with mine. People buy these and don’t look after them. Best engine made by bmw.

[@NicoSteinacker]

Best engine (after BMW i3s Motor).

[@gmerbergalfonzka5939]

True

[@kanon_od_ua]

You’re right.

[@joevani4220]

I agree mine has been pretty good use mine as a daily. These cars get a very bad rep. I did alot of preventive maintenance and few things that failed were expensive BUT when your a mechanic like myself its SO worth it! Even a decent diyer that's willing to learn and have another car as a back up your good.

[@shamasmahmood7836]

I'm really considering buying one. What is the main thing to look out for when buying one? Proper beast of a car, can't stop watching videos of em. Need one on the drive

[@TheRahewitt]

I’ve had no problems with my M5, Aston or Zonda. I have problems with lying

[@funnycuteanimals523]

Halo ha this is made me top laugh comment. I very enjoy you your humours sense!

[@Maddog494]

M5 and Aston Martin vantage been most reliable cars I’ve ever had

[@MrWachira98]

In a time when m5 "only" cost 60k

[@gmerbergalfonzka5939]

And got a v10 real sport engine not a turbo shit!

[@rahulfaldu2891]

At that time "60k" were 120k to current time bro.

[@soundseeker63]

@@rahulfaldu2891 Errm no not quite. More like £85k. Which is not far off what the current M5 starts at.

[@AlexGray]

I love my m5, maybe not the best car ever due to its transmission but certainly one of the most unique considering the only other V10 sedan is the Audi S6. Those were just different times.

[@Devil_Dog_Ultra]

thats why mines a 6 speed.

[@richwvu]

It's been five years with my E60 M5 this week, celebrating with a weekend on the track coming up! Love the car, but it has been one hell of a roller coaster ride.

[@danny_r27]

How’s the reliability been? Assuming you have the smg transmission, how has it been? The E60 M5 is my attainable dream car but reliability issues is what scare me away. The E92 M3 isn’t as bad and easier to find in a manual transmission than the M5 but the DCT in the M3 is just smoother and faster. I’m having a hard time choosing which will be my next car, a space gray metallic E92 M3 or a E60 M5. Both great cars but one is more reliable after the rod bearing issue has been addressed as they do share that same issue.

[@richwvu]

@@danny_r27 It is an SMG car, and the car has had some issues, but nothing I would consider catastrophic. Slave cylinder and starter motor went out between 75k and 80k miles, both required trans removal to replace. The the SMG computer fried itself and took my clutch and flywheel with it at about 97k miles. Honestly the biggest issue I've had is finding a competent mechanic to handle some of the repairs that I'm not willing to tackle in my driveway.

[@magnustan841]

@RichWVU Cool! Take care of it, it’s a car many enthusiasts really love! I personally love the F10 and the latest F90, but this gets more love than all of them combined. Hope it doesn’t eat your wallet, cause I’ve heard that it is very expensive to maintain.

[@danny_r27]

RichWVU luckily I have a garage that specializes in only German cars. They did a transmission fluid change on my 2011 N52 E90 because I wasn’t confident enough to do the fill it up properly. It takes 2 people to be able to fill up all 9 liters of fluid. If not done properly it could result in premature transmission wear and eventually failure. So I decided to let them do it. So I do have a competent shop that’s 3 miles away. If I do find a E60 M5 in space gray metallic that passes a mechanics inspection then I’ll go for it. But the E92 M3 still has it beat in my mind just because it’s a DCT if I can only find in that transmission and unable to find a manual. But the M3 can’t beat the sound of that V10. But I do hope I can find a manual, experts say if you can find a manual E60 M5 then it’s a no brainer. Sucks that most of it’s problems come from the smg transmission. Then the F10 M5 and F12 M6 have been catching my eye but they’re out of my budget lol

[@qscorner]

nice to see another long term user! I've had my e60 for 12 years 150K miles on it still running strong - it's actual my main daily. Replaced SMG at 75K, did actuators at 125k, just did ignition coils last month - So far I would say its not that different than other expensive cars I've owned for out of warranty maintenance. The only recent thing has been AC compressor got a puncture so that will be the next thing but in terms of engine its been rocking and most issue were repaired under my 100k warranty period.... but ymmv

[@groupb5420]

3 years of ownership with no major issues , I had the throttle actuators changed when I first bought it as these are going to fail if you purchase one of these ( preventive maintenance) the only problem so far was oil cooler under the bumper that was leaking ( £300 fitted genuine part ) and an oil seal in the rear diff ( included with the oil cooler replacement around £30 ) that’s it ... PS: don’t believe the forum scaremongers as most have never owned one or even driven one and the ones that have slated this car didn’t know how to drive this car and didn’t have it serviced properly... the most important thing to remember when owning this car is warm the engine and gearbox to temperature before thrashing the engine the revs must be kept below 3k until warmed up plus let the gearbox cool when the throttle is floored in other words the M button doesn’t need to be pressed 24/7 😉 this prolongs the life of the gearbox and clutch , another point to make is when this car needs to be worked on mechanically etc it must go to someone that knows what their doing not dodgy Dave’s back street garage for a favour , basically if a warning light comes on it needs to be addressed ASAP ....all in all it’s a fantastic car that’s very reliable if it’s looked after and driven properly , it’s the only car I’ve ever owned alongside the E46 M3 that I look forward to getting in on a Sunday morning and just driving for hours on end it’s that good ..... these cars are a bargain atm if you have been thinking of buying one do it now as there is a lot of good ones with FBMW service history and lowish mileage it won’t be long before these cars start going up in price 😎👍🇬🇧

[@MikeyPraz2121]

Any SMG issues? I’ve got the manual. No issues over here. Well said about warm ups.

[@groupb5420]

@@MikeyPraz2121 I’ve had no problems so far with the smg , all good over hear …. 11 months later nothing to report. 👍🇬🇧

[@Biggus_Dickus_69]

Best M5 ever made. The only people who disagree are those who a) never owned one b) can't afford to own one or c) bought a lemon 😅 I genuinely prefer driving it over my M5 Competition and M4 Competition including the gearbox. Full carbon intakes and plenum + modified exhaust in S6 shift setting going through the gears over 8K RPM each time is one of the greatest things ever for a true petrolhead. I share my experiences on Instagram via @blackbmwlife including having the world's first all carbon fibre plenum from Eventuri. An absolutely amazing car but I will not lie if you don't have deep pockets avoid it. Want reliability? Get a Toyota...it's an F1 derived V10 that revs past 8K what do you expect??

[@3kingsinc.966]

@biggus Dickus fucking hell your everywhere lol every e60 m5 video your there. Your doing V10 BNK and the rest of the @M5_Kartel proud

[@Biggus_Dickus_69]

@@3kingsinc.966 My G 👊 I gotta try and balance out things in the KZbin universe with all the mongs on here talking like they've owned one and are experts when they don't know sh*t.

[@Biggus_Dickus_69]

@@mislavkonjik2827 E60 M5 because V10.

[@JonBrownbread]

Ahh 2005 when cars actually looked good, not this nonsense we have now.

[@paulthomson9709]

Agreed , even ferraris look dreadful now .

[@artaskk]

@Tetova Tetovo not a car guy

[@soundseeker63]

It's so weird, I never thought I would get all nostalgic about 2005 and yet... here I am! We had no idea just how good we had it back then with all these fantastic exotic engines on offer from so many different manufacturers. This was arguably the final decade where car makers could make the engines they WANTED to make rather than being forced to make smaller capacity heavily turbocharged engines like they do now. Sure these modern turbo cars are quick but in terms of character and sound, not even close.

[@EricBags22]

Best car of all time i wouldnt trade mine for any of these new aged turbo cars haha 06 silverstone smg

[@user-bf2kb2ol8u]

Car for infinity Never gets old

[@hornydevil5694]

The style ,the unbelievable naturally aspirated V10 power and sound, comfortably accommodates 5 people. My own car is evolve tuned has 568 bhp ,never had any issues ,I actually love the smg gearbox especially the delay and rev up down gearing, the seats that grab you as well when turning the corner something very unique.it is a legendary car with so much personally and soul ,no other car ever made will come close, people who rubbish these cars should really focus on all cars in general ,if you don't maintain the car , you will get problems !!!!

[@25mrsameer]

ngl tho that beat @3:38 is lowkey fire tho 🔥🔥 sound guy for fifth gear is better than top gear sound guy cuz he will make you go deaf 😂😂

[@hdhil3137]

Did he just use the word practical for the zonda?

[@saqibshahab8118]

Have ..an E39 & E60 M5' & E63amg Fantastic cars, but E60 M5 ,is Jewel.if properly looked after & revved only after the engine has been warned up, no major problem arise.

[@felixlongtin7985]

It sure is! It’s my dream car

[@gregmayled]

3:51 anyone know her name?

[@Ben_Mayall]

Greg Mayled “A Researcher”

[@buggerlugz6753]

Prefer Vicki any day! :P

[@azaboy2]

LOOOOOL I just knew someone would be asking this

[@krishanthadissanayake5224]

even my e60 530 is still ahead of many cars i see on the road,,

[@ranjithreddy1910]

How old is this video?

[@user-333kqw1pn2g]

How old this video is??

[@kojotot3173]

Its from 2005

[@msagoo29]

My engine failed at 40k, full BMW service history. The noise was just incredible though

[@MikeyPraz2121]

SMG? Also we’re you warming it to 200F before taking off?

[@msagoo29]

@@MikeyPraz2121 Yes to both, I was very diligent and mechanically sympathetic with the car. BMW did cover half the cost of the replacement engine, but when we looked at forums, we weren't the only ones with failures, and we just got rid of it

[@MikeyPraz2121]

@@msagoo29 bummer! My engine failed before I bought it at 37k miles due to the bearings. It got rebuilt by BMW and I bought it with 75k miles. I figure the car being manual with a rebuild and some love and car aka blackstone reports so far so good.

[@oneman7638]

@@msagoo29What exactly failed? You gave no details. Rod bearing failure?

[@kettle_of_chris]

"Eye've havv 'errd dat de zecond plate vinner is de Zonda zo vet me juz zay dat eye amm verry happee do be da first vinner"

[@inderjitvarma6912]

Best Mafia ever !

[@Tokyo_Views]

WOW. seems a bit old?

[@DougsCars]

Only with the manual, please!

[@DougsCars]

Andrew Ball I think we only got these in manual in North America...

[@DougsCars]

Andrew Ball Yes, I had one of those M3s...

[@farishanafiah8461]

3:01 This is the full video for the blind run: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n5DSZnyLnJxmbK8

[@jasonherah1563]

Fifth gear sponsored by BMW! No wonder it won

[@adrienadrien5940]

Looks like i own the best car ont the world ? Not quite sure to be honest but that a hell off nice car though...

[@chrisogrady28]

The best car needs to have a manual

[@minecalos1870]

answer:no

[@sysakPL]

If only it were reliable and didn't have the smg box.

[@hornydevil5694]

If maintained it is reliable, stupid people who kill the cars and don't look after it ,then complain, have serious problems not the car!!!

[@henzo7087]

@@hornydevil5694 Yep

[@MikeyPraz2121]

Get the manual. I did. It’s great.

[@Darthadios]

I have entitled Mercedes-Benz W124 the best car of the last century. Why ? Because it´s super reliable, nice car to drive, well equipped for it´s time, there is still plenty of those available and on the road, and it´s very affordable nowadays, you can get really good one for 3000€, it´s cheap to run, insure and keep on the road. + Mercedes still offers services and spares for those. And if you look after it, that engine will not go wrong. It´s really a car for the people.

[@NikesZ28]

Not so great value anymore :D The car you want to drive but not own, ha ha

[@Alexperrin98]

Nah M3 M5 feels like a tank when going shopping

[@makb6465]

E39 M5 Definitely

[@antoineb1768]

e60 !

[@Barfly76]

Definitely e39.

[@Barfly76]

Andrew Ball you kind of lost your credibility when mentioning the navigation screen and rust. Who the hell uses the navigation in a 20 year old car? And how does that affect the driving experience? And rust dude? Really? You live in the wrong place to take your rear wheel drive sports sedan out in the snow. Every car will rust where they salt the roads. I never hurt my wrist shifting from 1st to 2nd, so I think that’s a you thing. And the only reason they Use recirculating ball is that they couldn’t fit a rack and pinion system in with the nearly 5 liter V8. They could in smaller engine e39s. Car was kickass at the time and considered by many driving enthusiasts and journalists, to be the best BMW ever. It’s why one with shit ton of miles commands $25k right now.

[@Barfly76]

Andrew Ball I think you lost credibility because I don’t believe any serious driving enthusiast would entertain 20 year old navigation technology as part of the equation for a great car. And rust is simply a part of your environment and choosing when to drive the car. Never heard any of the many owners I know mention this as a thing with their cars. And they live all over the world. Has nothing to do with the driving experience either. Seems silly to me. And I know more people than I can count who have owned these cars for years, and you’re the first person to mention wrenching their wrist. You’d think I’d have heard of that before if it’s a true issues and not isolated to your particular driving style.

[@Barfly76]

Andrew Ball just for you. Posted today. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aYGQlIGkd6uVfcU

[@Barfly76]

Boy were they on the wrong side of history with this one. And I’m a BMW fan man.

[@taranlall5847]

Shot on iPhone... 4

[@Levent_Ergun]

I phone wasn't a thing for 2 more years after this video. Let alone iPhone 4.

[@danny_r27]

Only with the manual, the smg transmission is garbage. You can shift a manual transmission just as fast as the “smg” which is really just an automated manual transmission. The E9X M3 DCT is far superior.

[@muddy2k13]

You must be superman then

[@hornydevil5694]

I love the smg gearbox ,it is a awesome unique experience especially with pedal shift ,same as formula One car!!!

[@kristianspencer1978]

Don’t bother, buy the king of the super saloons the hsv gtsr w1. 6.2 ls9 v8 supercharged,640 bhp manual gearbox. Beautiful car.😘

[@user-xy1sm3wc9j]

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[@RAJohnson713]

You need to take back that award due to horrible reliability...

[@joevani4220]

@Andrew Ball Exactly I hate all these people complaining that never even own one. I love mine!

[@f.n.k.b8678]

In deed is a good car , indeed has a good engine , yettt it lasts till 50k miles . For the first owner is all a sea of roses but for the second owner....might be a financial suicide .

[@efeefeoglu532d]

yes but not "the m5 e60" formula.. "the m5 e61" with "lci" formula is "the best car ever produced and sold" ..

[@richardhammond9757]

Yep, But For me New Audi S8 truly is best car ever made!

[@joebloggs4191]

Not in the same class. S8 competes with the 7 series not the 5

[@ocariioca]

Loved only by who never owned one.

[@pussygalore5947]

Proved to be a mechanical nightmare with the vanos engine. AVOID AT ALL COSTS

[@ricknineg]

No no no, the issue is the oil. Get the right oil and the engine will be fine. I have a manual v10 and no issues for 5 years. Just tires and brakes. No metallic shavings

[@mannysingh6618]

Rubbish

[@ricknineg]

Manny Singh ok buddy! Enjoy your M5

[@muddy2k13]

Had mine 5 years and it certainly hasn't been a mechanical nightmare. Glad I didn't avoid 🙂

[@HondaAccordguy05]

Anyone come to this video just to comment about how unreliable this car is? 😂

[@Biggus_Dickus_69]

Stick to your Honda 😆

[@rooster16091982]

Can confirm. The bills are eye-watering and every time your getting work done it takes 2 weeks + part sourcing. Love it though. Unbelievable driving experience.

[@andrewwizard1577]

No

[@rowanhawklan9707]

No.

[@stevebucuris8420]

the bmw is fuggly.

[@alexzhou7]

Nope, it’s aged beautifully and the design was especially ahead of its time

[@tigris010101]

Got to be the worst M5

[@tigris010101]

@Andrew Ball did consider one but they are common for engine issues and harsh gear change so I bought its rival the Audi RS6 V10 bi turbo. Packs a big punch, easy to tune. Mine is 700bhp and that's a mild tune. Hybrid turbos would see an easy 1000hp. Apart from the oil seal issue they can have. Engine very strong. I'm a bmw fan. Had an M3 before the Audi, but went manual.

[@Anirossa]

At least the ugliest M5