Is The Enigmatic Maiden Princess Selina - [Debunked]FFXIV DawnTrail Theory

Thee are so many theories about this maiden, and this is one I really love!
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[@TheMexRAGE]

Okay, i have a more crazy theory, the lalafels on the trailer, were Krile's parents, the female lalafel was crying, because she left krile behind, this is how galuf find and adopted krile, as we know that at some point he was searching for the golden city (and also maybe how he end up finding eureka the primal)

[@AwkwardThursdays]

That's not crazy, it's extremely likely. She's even wearing the eureka elemental boots as a further connection to Galuf.

[@jaypro6269]

Another hint at a connection to Krile, is the top piece she is wearing. It's the felicitous top we get from the Island Sanctuary, which mimics the devout outfits of the past, with cat ears. And Krile has a connection to the pieces with cat ears.

[@omensoffate]

A crazy theory ? It’s so painstakingly obvious 😂

[@TorManiak]

I know it's less probable that it would be that way, but it is possible the theory of this woman being an Ascian(specifically Pashtarot) and the one about her being Princess Selina can overlap and she's both. Like, she could've been a reincarnation of Pashtarot who happens to be Princess Salina and was recruited like Amon, which at some point after her body died she reformed another with her looks the same way Emet-Selch did on the First (which would give a good reason on why she doesn't have red eyes), or it's Pashtarot taking control of her body after the actual princess died(which would support the theory of Solution 9 being an offshoot of Allag that she's helped found, and the references to FFIX with Gaia).

[@M.Blaze240]

Fun fact. The "mask" like object around the Maiden's waist looks eerily similar to the bottom half of Pashtarot's sigil from FFXII

[@DrakeWurrum]

Considering Dawntrail is supposed to have plenty of FF9 references (considering they added Viper)... One of the main plot points of FF9 was the production of *soulless black mages* used to invade another kingdom. And then it ALL turns out to be a plot to save a dying world, Terra, by merging it with the protag's world, Gaia. Gaia had created soulless vessels (specifically: Genomes, who have monkey tails) to carry out this plot, one of whom was Garland... who then created more, including Kuja and Zidane. It's worth noting that Genomes *did not age* (although Kuja was created to have a limited lifespan). Garland spent millennia replacing the souls of dying Gaians with the souls of Terrans as a means of facilitating the merger of their two worlds. Judging from what we've seen, some of that bit involving replacing souls MAY actually be involved in Solution 9. And the bit about the people of the Golden City being immortal? That makes me think of Genomes. It's most likely that this has a lot to do with another Shard trying to survive it's own Calamity event and possibly one of the four Ascians who have yet to be accounted for, and I think there will be some connection to Mhach as opposed to Allag. (Black Mages originally were created by Mhach, leading to the War of the Magi) Fun note: In FF9, the souls of the Terrans were stored... in Pandemonium.

[@VegasRedStar]

I think she's related to Krile in some way. They made the design for both of them a similar color palette, for association, (I think,). We also know Yoshi P said Krile was important to the plot. Also: Where are Krile's parents? Do we know? Maybe they're distant relatives to Allagans in some way? I love the theory crafting. Nice work

[@Jon0001]

I believe the maiden is in fact the Ascian Emmerololth or Emmerololth the Holy Queen Queen in ff12. In Ff14 Emmeroloth was in fact killed by Kriles grandfather Galuf by transporting the Isle of Val into the lifestream. Emmeroloth went to the isle of Val to investigate a mysterious primal known as Eurkea whose power was able to "grant the wishes of it's master".Most such wishes created weapons of great power. What Emmeroloth wanted is unknown but Solution 9 tech does bare a striking resemblance to the tech seen in Eureka Orthos especially the tech seen around excaliber. Emmeroloth is revealed to be alive after the events on the Isle of Val having shown up in patch 2.3. How she survived is unclear but she may have done exactly what eureka did and used aether to escape from the lifestream. perhaps even using Eurkea wish power to do so. The final reason I believe this is possible is because this ties into Kriles story overall. A bonus fun thing is the maiden asks "with your strength could you have held fast to that which is dear without sacrifice?" Something that sounds awfully like something an ancient would ask knowing that we diverted the final days.

[@WarGiver]

Keep in mind that the Ascians could have just awakened another Emmeroloth, aside from the unsundered they could just go to another of the reflections, grab a shard of Emmeroloth's soul and awaken it. So Galuf killing Emmeroloth is irrelivent to them being around or not.

[@nazotech7590]

Only issue with that is Allag never set foot in Tural according to older lore, my theory is Solution Nine which uses Leven Aka Lightning which just happens to be what the 2ND Umbral Calamity was might of been the real reason as they had competition in the reagion

[@WarGiver]

Personally I think that Solution 9 is either the precursor to Mhach or the successor.

[@ComposerCharlie]

This is my theory as well...

[@DefenderX]

I've seen a lot of people are leaning towards one of the remaining ascians, but I honestly don't see any exact symbols that are completely accurate. But there is one symbol on the dress she's wearing in the character bios picture that you can find in FFIX. The emblem she's wearing if turned up side down includes the emblem for Alexandria. A sword with four wings. There are other features that looks very similar to for example the wedding gloves of Garnet (almost looks identical) and the head accessories of Garnet during her wedding at the end of FFIX. In addition, we got an image of heritage found and new housing models that are in the same style as Alexandrian houses in FFIX. I think that the enigmatic maiden is Zidane's and Garnet's daughter. Although who is inside her head might also just be an ascian.

[@pimsutter]

It's a possibility, we shouldn't forget that Allag did hide in the New World. But some people believe that S9 might be from another shard. They even point out that some building found in Heritage Found looks very similar to ff9's Alexandria.

[@SirVyre]

I like this theory quite a lot, and the cool thing is that multiple theories about who she is could be true, due to many characters in FFXIV possessing multiple identities/titles/relations. Personally, I think she is a Sundered Ascian that is in a Garlean body, and that she is Emet-selch's Sundered Garlean wife. And the cool thing is, this doesn't necessarily invalidate your theory. Remember that Ascians approach Sundered Ascians to take them back into the fold, not just on a whim, but usually when they're sure they've found one and they've proven to be useful. It could be that what got Amon noticed was his discovering how to make people immortal, and having done that for her, Emet-selch would be free from worry over losing her. Of course the problem with my theory is that they never show us the moms or the wives so... It's more likely yours and she is Pashatorot or something, given her belt buckle.

[@CiciCrossheart]

This was a fun chat on stream, and I forgot to say during this segment you convinced me of this possibility next to what I'm subscribed to already

[@pup7641]

Hi I think she's Altima and here's why. Altima is described as an advocate for arts and aesthetics. She's symmetrical. It's in line with pictomancer. The new tomestones are Allagans Tomestones of Aesthetics.

[@Rewwgh]

I think if the writers are to manifest this idea, they need to explain some things. Namely why her eye colour is the way it is. Could be that whatever transference she performed caused her to lose the red, kind of reverse of G'raha's situation. And that indeed the Red eyes are something that might "overwrite" the colouration the body would have natively. And how she ended up in the New World. Because right now the lore hasn't established whether Allag stretched across the sea to Tural/NW as well. I personally am skeptical of her identity as Salina, as I see her lore as something that's slated for Corvos/Southern Ilsabard and whatever the Allagans did around that area. Her name might pop up in side content regarding that area. Or even the MSQ if future expansions take us there. To throw my hat into the ring, I would wager she serves a purpose similar to Arciela V Adoulin from FF11 or maybe Garnet/Sarah from FF9. Similarly to Venat/Lady of Light to whom the top spot at the poster was reserved in Endwalker, Enigmatic Maiden won't have crazy amounts of screentime in the MSQ but will be very important for the narrative.

[@truthless4720]

The cubes & script have clear allagan connections (the hieroglyphs can be found in Eureka Orthos), but no such link exists in Solution Nine. They use Eorzean script and some script similar to Hangul that I haven't seen before. I think these are two separate civilizations. Doesn't stop your theory of Selina being true, but I don't think she'd be connected to Solution Nine if so. My pet theory is crown + dead eyes + piloting a magitek(ish) = Terra, who was the child of an esper. The "gold civilization" is actually espers, and they locked themselves away after "the war of the magi" - a war between the proto-allagans and solution nine, which ended with Solution Nine being timelocked (the key being clearly of allagan design and in the shape of an hourglass, indicating temporal magics, of which the allagan are known). The proto-allagans were entrusted with keeping the Niners locked away while the espers fled back to their domain through the vault-portal.

[@sadi5713]

Seeing that the other tech seems to be lightning related and the lightning doem area shrouded indarkness, it seems it is more connected to the lightning calamity which was number 2, Allag did emerge after calamity 3 which was fire if I remmember correctly.

[@darkwolf9ball]

I said early on when I first saw solution 9 it is going to have many ties to FF9. Soul transference. In FF9 you had terra and dolls/souls. The Lifa Tree created the mist that shrouded a whole region in mist. Alexandria the kingdom being the first main city. FF9 explores the dark ages, industrial age and tech age. Garnet aka Sarah is part of a ancient summoner clan that gets wiped out and her horn removed. The lightning would me the most. The dark age, industrial and tech all their. Selene instead of a horn red eyes or something else. The town is Alexandria or at least looks like it in that one area. I think the gate will either disple the fake barrier to the tech people and phaze it into the real world or it leads to the 6th zone whatever that may be.

[@vindurza]

I've been thinking they're tied to ascians or maybe Mach do to the crazy airships and prominent purple colors you see during the sky pirate raids

[@vadagget]

We'll have an idea if G'raha reaches a door there and it opens just for him...

[@MissKashira]

Please don't stop with theories. I'm enjoying hunting them down to see if anyone manages to guess correctly. It seems that so many people were mistaken about Endwalker they don't want to risk it again. But I think it's fun to guess whether you end up being right or wrong.

[@WyrmLimion]

Thanks Kashira. I have been enjoying the other theories and I cant wait to see who was on the money! Less than two weeks until we find out!

[@tbeshers]

I so thought this too!

[@ZerasHydroBLAZER]

I care not for her origin is from otherworld or virtual world or else, but she is my first NPC I love at first sight. ( - ////// - )

[@drahsid2]

I think this theory makes a lot of sense, though I do have another farfetched idea: Enigmatic Maiden could be a homunculus of Valigarmanda (ala Varshahn)

[@iceman3317]

I don't know if Allag is directly connected to this. Unless it is the reason we end up going to Meracydia. But I think she is more related to one of the Metione sisters because she sounds like Metione. And I think these people are from one of the planets or shards that one of the sisters visited. And how Solution Nine is handled is one of the solutions that the far off planets came up with to deal with life. It is also possible that these people or at least her, might be a Mega Computer or an AI and that they would also be linked to the Fountain of Youth. Princess Salina was also part oc the Crystal Tower storyline and they gave their power to G'raha. So no I really don't think she is related to Allag, at least not in the way you are talking about.

[@Miingno]

Only a few more weeks until we know! I currently lean more to the Ascian theory, that she has the seat of Halmarut that we didn't yet see. Which doesn't mean, she cannot also be the princess. Maybe Emet-Selch put her into that position as princess to have someone on site when he was gone and to keep the colony running, hidden and safe to endure future calamities.... and maybe she always wanted to betray Emet-Selch and couldn't until now, that he and Zodiark are gone... AAAAAAnyway!! thank you for the video! :D

[@JackDaloots]

All I know, is that if we're gonna be deep diving into Allag, we need to translate their writing.... No one's done it, and no one has proven it's impossible either....

[@4mb127]

Cool speculation.

[@BaithNa]

Good theory, I hope its true because it would make for a good story and I can see it setting up future expansions

[@iHaveOneArm]

inb4 she's not of our world and she's a Cetra

[@PolluxStrike]

You know he could be fibbing about it being Allegans so he doesn’t spoil us. They have had all this time to advance their tech.

[@ArchangeZ]

I dont think they would go again with Allagans or Garleans, these guys are probably new threat we will be dealing with for some time, she might not even be the main villain, but some in between, tho her smug look tells me it will be far more complicated than that. I have no clue how to call those soldiers tho, they are certainly not a small "Faction" since they have a fuckin Battlecruiser that could rival Agrius or Dalriada in its size. Maybe some Empire from the world that was supposed to die in second umbral calamity but didnt? Or maybe some tech cult, just hoping its not "robots", had enough of Nier for a lifetime

[@MrKnaives]

Didn't they say this isnt allagan? Nad yoshi p confirms that it made by a diffrent civilization in the live letter. My personal theory is that this place is made by the Mhach empire. Who escaped eorzea and went west during the war of the magi and the sith umbral calamity.

[@ViewTube_Emperor_of_Mankind]

No red eyes.

[@Arupaca128]

For Allag Mhigo!

[@Ranziel1]

I hope it's not Allag related. Allag is lame now that we know it got punked by Emet. It's no longer mysterious at all.

[@Maddox_Clayne]

I thought the calamities weren't localized to Eorzea but affected the whole of Eithrys

[@renaatsibanda3951]

I really hope this theory is true. We’re in for an exciting story if the narrative has her in it.

[@wontononionslicer1004]

Theory plot hole, if it’s true then the future graha timeline would never be in the first place, since he will/was the only capable of controlling the tower. If she is Selina then she would be able to control it.

[@Rewwgh]

I get what you mean but she might have been inconvenienced at the time. Like she seems to be in the trailer. Or at least that's my read of her. She might be unable to leave Solution Nine.

[@evildrtran]

I personally dont think so, Allag royalty are supposed to have red pupiled eyes, right?

[@wavypavy4059]

To me the red eyes mean her being specifically the princess who gave away the alagan eye to G'raha's ancestors makes it pretty much the only theory for her being ascian that makes sense. But I do think I personally lean away from allag explanations for solution 9 generally.

[@Zoeila]

no....she would have Red Eyes. those lines are about the ancients and zodiark

[@FrazzleCat]

She's definitely a Princess Sara(h) character. This character hasn't always gone by the name "Sarah" in the FF games and "Salina" is only a slight deviation. Your idea makes a lot of sense other than the color of her eyes but that can be explained by some story bits & bobs. I wonder if she's a prisoner like Sara from FF 1.

[@Wildbarley]

A certain character in FF9 has a birth name of Sarah too

[@jaypro6269]

One thing of note though is that Princess Salina is based on the character Salina fromm FF3, who was Desch's lover. Desch in the FFXIV continuity being her Miqo'te servant she passed her bloodline too; and G'raha 's ancestor. It also should be noted that FF3 does have a Princess Sarah as well. So, Salina isn't a substitute, but an entirely separate character.

[@BladRavenYey]

allag made it to tural???

[@WyrmLimion]

Well my theory posits that because the Allagans were capable of Space Travel or at the very least getting into orbit, they would have full visual access to all landmasses on Etheyris, and a large western continent would have been too tempting to not at least visit.

[@Garmondil]

Its not Allagan, the tech stuff in solution nine and the purple stuff in the story trailer are NOT Allagan yoshi p confirmed this during the Live Letter

[@Scerttle]

God I hope not. I'm so tired of CSU3 going back to the Allagan well. You make a strong case, though.

[@Scerttle]

My general hope is that Amaurotian ancients didn't rule all of the star and there were other nations at the time that dealt with the final days in their own way, trying to find solutions that were less peaceful.

[@XieRH1988]

I think given how Amon in Endwalker was abruptly retconned into being an Ascian, making Dawntrail have yet more surprising Allagan involvement would be like all those theories of this person being an Ascian, i.e. it risks feeling like something we've already seen done many times before. So I personally hope it's something new, something that's not Garlean, Allagan or Ascian.

[@wompoo7967]

She doesn't have red eyes... so my guess no.

[@Murdus81]

I really hope not. I'm so tired of Allag & want a meso-american centric society, not bound to Allag. Perhaps Ronka or a splinter of it.