Is the military's 6% pay rise enough? | Sitrep podcast | Extra episode

Al Carns MP Veterans Minister talks to Sitrep about the pay review, for more on what he said and what it could mean, check out our Sitrep podcast this week.
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[@davidrichardson4778]

HELL NO! Our men and women put there lives on the line for us daily. Thank you for your service looking out for us. Big Money

[@grahamthomas6381]

Not exactly putting their lives on the line right now are they?

[@MkVenner1975]

It’s a start, its a start that wouldn’t have happened under the Conservatives.

[@clivemaskell2439]

In my day in the army as soon as we had a pay rise food & accommodation would rise, Some things just never change !

[@williambuckley6695]

What does this mean for us Veterans and our Pensions 😮

[@papadeenw6]

It should be 10% minimum remember the military 🪖 literally put their lives sometimes sacrifice their lives for their country junior doctors getting 22% all the benefits the military get is more than deserved respect our military who at times sacrifice their lives so that we can live the way we are living BIG UP THE BRITISH ARMED FORCES

[@gadgetgus]

Hey BFBS 👊🏼 No, however 6% is a step in the right direction... Overall, young people deserve a complete package, to recruit & retain them. ⚠️ Veterans also deserve to be first on the housing list. Thanks for sharing, Ubique

[@Вивсівідстій]

Cut Parliament’s payroll by 6% and give the saying to soldiers, sailors, aircraftsmen and marines.

[@Tarack1]

''They're thousands of pounds better off''...yeah, but they're not though, are they? The cost of living has seen to that. (everyone has struggled through this I know, not just soldiers). You've alluded to the fact that this is the biggest pay rise in 22 years. Thats not something to be happy about. That just means the military have been getting shafted for 22 years. And now it's in absolute dire straights, the government have decided to give what appears on paper as a good pay rise. But frankly if you're getting an extra £1500 (for example) but expenses like utilities, food, cars, mortgage rates and more have gone up to the point where collectively they are costing more than the pay rise...it's disingenuous to say the military will be thousands of pounds better off. I'm not going to complain about a pay rise, that's excellent. But when houses now cost 320k on average in the UK, how does an extra few thousand combat that? When gas/electricity is costing £400-500 more a year than it did 2-3 years ago, when food bills are up £100-200 extra a month. But when our own MP's are giving themselves pay rises that take them close to £100k a year and then also claiming expenses worth tens of thousands of pounds, it's a real kick in the balls.

[@simoncaron6424]

6% is an insult. 4 times makes more sense.

[@clayrukin4532]

It's the people at the bottom who need the biggest payrise. The increase should have been staggered, 8% for the bottom, 5 % for the top etc. My CO is on 85K, his payrise is £5,100 !

[@hourbee5535]

What about a pay rise for nurses?

[@Tarack1]

Not to disregard your point...but this is a military channel based on military issues. The MP speaking is the minister for Veterans. What exactly do you think he can do for Nurses?

[@duanemarshall1889]

How much has food accomadation gone up by 😂 6%

[@kennethnoel1257]

Don't think you understand how maths work🤦🏿‍♂️.

[@ryanredmond5559]

Food rates are frozen and housing hardley went up🤣

[@kennethnoel1257]

@@ryanredmond5559 people don't seems to realise that 6% on their salary is not the same as 6% on Thier rent 😂🤦🏿‍♂️

[@ryanredmond5559]

@@kennethnoel1257 ik🤣 im currently serving and my acomadation went up by £10 that was it 🤣

[@duanemarshall1889]

@@kennethnoel1257 oh I do I also know difference between government who cares about military or who wants scrap so many military depart a few years ago , hows your pay as you dine going 🤣🤔

[@user-zh9kc7tw4n]

Train drivers got 14% and they are pretty well paid already.

[@matthewbaynham6286]

I don't see why service personal in the UK don't just get jobs throughout the militaries in the British Commonwealth.

[@foamyflightmaster9385]

If it helps to get more boots on the ground, I'm in

[@rickyhaggarty1662]

A load of sh..te the food and acomadtion will go up and the soldiers have to pay roof tax😢

[@donxz2555]

Carns is just an out of touch plonker He states that after putting up accommodation charges it’s ’great value and subsidized’ quality is lacking as black mould and cockroaches are abundant as is the 6 week wait to get your boiler fixed, maybe the privatization of service accommodation has taken money out of providing good accommodation into profits for the private company In the 1980’s accommodation was far better than now. Best pay rise in 22 years equates to 22 years of low pay. Armed forces sold out again, sold out in numbers, kit, pay as are veterans the forgotten and inconvenient for politicians Not a very hard hitting interview

[@59patrickw]

not at all and do not put up food and accommodation till you fix that as well

[@justinle6715]

Matching inflation is the least that could done.

[@grahamelsy9715]

No definitely not but then it’s ok to give junior doctors a 22% so what do they do not put their lives on the line

[@daniel117100]

Any doctor will do much much more work than the average squaddie

[@duanemarshall1889]

Are they still going send subs to sea without weapons PM

[@plasmaxer]

Well done to all the service personnel on your pay rise it is well deserved. Will veteran pension recipients get an increase or is this totally separate? Thank you.

[@darthsarcastus1064]

No, pension increases are based on the consumer price index and inflation.

[@duanemarshall1889]

The housing allowance 😂😂😂 food allowance 😂 let's see if hes still in site in years time 😂😂 still saying how great the deal is , as ex military the deals are rubbish 😂😂😂

[@kennethnoel1257]

I won't say so, for example where I live Army rent is about 300 pounds including tax and water. Outside of the Army the rent is minimum 1000+tax+water. It's not the best but it definitely helps.

[@duanemarshall1889]

@@kennethnoel1257 depends on grade of quarter but seen it fiddled in past were lowest paid quarters were some of the highest charged even when windows were single pane ! Carpets were mats and paint was from RAF colour scheme from decades earlier ! Even the front door which was rotten falling apart was repainted March use up before end financial year ! Then came round in may rip door off cause it was rotten 🤣 bedroom had broken window from when moved in till day I left ! Was bacon in grill! Cheese toasty behind kitchen radiator! Chips under living room mat ! Those were the days !

[@duanemarshall1889]

@@kennethnoel1257 I'd like to say that I hope time has changed for the best, when I was med disc I was ser in NI , family back at earlier quarter kids due exams, days after med board sent me home I recieved a letter from housing eviction notice , it was do nice to get that notice from housing kids were middle exams , they really knew how to deal with service families

[@simondixon5724]

It is still the low cost of dying. Compared with civiy street the military are still underpaid for what is expected of them.

[@biscuitcrusader]

6% isn't "thousands of pounds" for most servicemen

[@darthsarcastus1064]

Not impressed, not impressed at all. The biggest pay increase in 22 years just means we've been getting underpaid for 22 years!!! So 6% doesn't even come close to enough. Accommodation increase should still be on pause until the housing is at an acceptable standard, which it is not!

[@raycollins6338]

I do not begrudge junior doctors getting a reasonable pay rise. However at least have some closer parity between their 22% and the armed forces pay rise! As usual, and Labour are no different to Conservatives, no government takes care of our armed forces the way they should!

[@CB-pj3rb]

The pay rise should help soldiers, seamen and airmen pay for their meals under the absurd Pay as you Dine formula

[@paulroche95]

Especially the new. Model they brought in went from 6 pound odd for 3 meals to now easily pay 6 pound just for your tea as you pay per item and I don't I ow anyone that's happy about it

[@ryanredmond5559]

@@paulroche95what new model

[@BrianKnox-dd2pi]

Will it fix the high rate of people leaving the forces? I don't think so.

[@darcebrooks5409]

Good news, a pragmatic view is to adjust for inflation.

[@moeluv]

Pay the military more.

[@olddog103]

WHY DONT VETERANS GET LOCALITY PAY. .??

[@thomaslewis8232]

Paid for by the pensioners.

[@metalikmike1]

He has stepped from being a Military man to a Politician very well, sidestep answers and just give a load of toe the party line waffle. Junior Doctors 22%..men and women who risk their lives and often lose them for their Country just 6%!!!

[@TC-qd1zw]

To me too much.

[@remy7009]

Fantastic News ???? Your putting up Accommodation Charges ?…….

[@michaelhill7632]

So now you have your monthly income as a politician plus your military pension. No wonder that you think that 6 percent is "fantastic". !!!!!

[@grahamthomas6381]

Get over it. It makes me sick people whining about wages. Junior doctors in particular. At my place of work we are paid well below the national average and last year we got a payrise of 3%. This year we got a payrise of 1%. This from a company that made a £301 million profit last year.

[@derf9465]

😅😅😅Nope the 80's yuppy had kids and now i have a majority of youngsters who are money obsessed . They dont want to serve this greedy rock when outside the wire they can earn the same as a warrant officer in their 20's. The pensions got destroyed in 2015. So why stay? The RAF has lost 30000 people in 20 years, countless aircraft and capabilities. With a Raf at 28000.....i hope you like conscription folks. I know countless number of technicians that have left and earn more for doing less. Its a little too late really, accommodation is rubbish , the illegals get better, food is hit and miss, those in power want to fly fly fly and just look at hours flown......10 years ago an experienced technician had 8/10 years under their belt....today they call 2 years experienced........most have never deployed.....the incident rate will sadly go up.......shhh most aircraft technicians cant fix their own cars are use basic hand tools correctly. Industry already is aware of how rubbish the youngsters are.

[@sitasurjitkalair8371]

👏👏👏

[@allanxxxxxxxx]

Al Cairns, you know that the Accommodation is poor but you want to Raise it to 6% Total Joke

[@jedwards89071]

Another Labour mouth piece talkig absolute rubbish. Hasn't got a clue about the current lived experience. "Accommodation is a good deal" say that to those with horrible amounts of black mould.